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Other => Graveyard => BitShares PTS => Topic started by: bytemaster on November 17, 2013, 06:57:49 pm
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https://bter.com
http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=pts
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/119
If you know of others let us know.
https://www.coingrounds.com/login moved to https://www.bit-u.com/login (PGP message from Silfax: http://pastebin.com/W3LcvmJ8 )
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https://bter.com
https://www.coingrounds.com/login
http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=pts
If you know of others let us know.
https://peatio.com/
and some ripple gateway
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Has anyone had success at Bter.com with buying PTS with BTC? Please advise. Thank you.
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Has anyone had success at Bter.com with buying PTS with BTC? Please advise. Thank you.
I've used them to buy about 100PTS. Never had an issue.
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Has anyone had success at Bter.com with buying PTS with BTC? Please advise. Thank you.
I've used them to buy about 100PTS. Never had an issue.
Thanks.
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https://bter.com
https://www.coingrounds.com/login
http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=pts
If you know of others let us know.
https://peatio.com/
and some ripple gateway
https://peatio.com/
is there a possibility to see a the prices without having to log in? thanks
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https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/119
they just add protoshares..
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https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/119
they just add protoshares..
Score, I was the second buyer! 8)
Let the buying begin! Keep that price above .01
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https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/119
they just add protoshares..
That's great!
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https://bter.com
https://www.coingrounds.com/login
http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=pts
If you know of others let us know.
https://peatio.com/
and some ripple gateway
https://peatio.com/
is there a possibility to see a the prices without having to log in? thanks
no way
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bytemaster, I think that you should strikethrough bit-u, as they have been fucked up:
http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=356.msg10313#msg10313
https://www.bit-u.com
Thanks,
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bytemaster, I think that you should strikethrough bit-u, as they have been fucked up:
http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=356.msg10313#msg10313
https://www.bit-u.com
Thanks,
Done
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https://bter.com
http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=pts
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/119
If you know of others let us know.
https://www.coingrounds.com/login moved to https://www.bit-u.com/login (PGP message from Silfax: http://pastebin.com/W3LcvmJ8 )
https://www.btc-8.com/?PTS_CNY hei,another exchange
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We don't need those small Exchanges with no liquidity and no visibility...
Whether we're on 2, 3, 5, 10 or 20 of those mini-Exchanges, doesn't matter.... All we need is to be on BTC-E !!! That's the only Exchange with real money being traded ! Until then, I'm afraid the price of PTS will go nowhere....
Are there any plans to be listed on BTC-E ?
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Pasting here a quote from another unrelated thread:
Not sure if this was posted already but www.coins-e.com exchange has started taking Protoshares (PTS).
Coins-e has new management now. Some improvements are obvious: 2FA (two-factor authentication) now available and a new help desk software. The site looks to be getting better.
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We don't need those small Exchanges with no liquidity and no visibility...
Whether we're on 2, 3, 5, 10 or 20 of those mini-Exchanges, doesn't matter.... All we need is to be on BTC-E !!! That's the only Exchange with real money being traded ! Until then, I'm afraid the price of PTS will go nowhere....
Are there any plans to be listed on BTC-E ?
Being listed on BTC-e is not as easy as a request. There is lots of work to in order to make it through.
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Being listed on BTC-e is not as easy as a request. There is lots of work to in order to make it through.
I am fully aware of that, all I'm saying is it should be our Nr.2 priority:
Priority Nr.1: Better marketing, branding... We need to get the word out and educate the community, because nobody has heard of PTS and the website of PTS is crap! We also need more FOCUS! We shouldn't be talking about 5 different things, now we have PTS so we should focus on that.... First build PTS, and build a base, then we can grow from there, and start with DACs, BitShares, etc...
Priority Nr.2 : Get listed on BTC-E !
All the rest, we have time for that later...
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Being listed on BTC-e is not as easy as a request. There is lots of work to in order to make it through.
I am fully aware of that, all I'm saying is it should be our Nr.2 priority:
Priority Nr.1: Better marketing, branding... We need to get the word out and educate the community, because nobody has heard of PTS and the website of PTS is crap! We also need more FOCUS! We shouldn't be talking about 5 different things, now we have PTS so we should focus on that.... First build PTS, and build a base, then we can grow from there, and start with DACs, BitShares, etc...
Priority Nr.2 : Get listed on BTC-E !
All the rest, we have time for that later...
I second that.
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Being listed on BTC-e is not as easy as a request. There is lots of work to in order to make it through.
I am fully aware of that, all I'm saying is it should be our Nr.2 priority:
Priority Nr.1: Better marketing, branding... We need to get the word out and educate the community, because nobody has heard of PTS and the website of PTS is crap! We also need more FOCUS! We shouldn't be talking about 5 different things, now we have PTS so we should focus on that.... First build PTS, and build a base, then we can grow from there, and start with DACs, BitShares, etc...
iam with you in most of it! But also thinking... we must work on multiple fronts to get this work... but yes we need to focus more on what is next and bundle the efforts on this ... But pls be patient ... cause we grow from scratch and now the next step is focus and get the community and the team work on it ... as i can say ... we all work hard to get next steps work ...
Priority Nr.2 : Get listed on BTC-E !
indeed this would be great
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Anyone figured out how to use btc38.com/api/ ?
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Both bter.com and cryptsy.com worked fine for me at the end, but had load issues such as slowness and logouts. Cryptsy required 6 confirms for incoming BTC which was annoyingly time consuming (and unnecessary nowadays really).
PTS on btc-e would be fantastic and a good fit due to PTS unique properties. Let's make that happen folks!
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Does anyone know why bter.com has disabled withdrawal of protoshares?
I suggest that no one deposit any coin to trade there until we find ouy.
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We don't need those small Exchanges with no liquidity and no visibility...
Whether we're on 2, 3, 5, 10 or 20 of those mini-Exchanges, doesn't matter.... All we need is to be on BTC-E !!! That's the only Exchange with real money being traded ! Until then, I'm afraid the price of PTS will go nowhere....
Are there any plans to be listed on BTC-E ?
Looks like they only got room for 2 more buttons! I send a support ticket to ask them to add PTS.
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Does anyone know why bter.com has disabled withdrawal of protoshares?
I suggest that no one deposit any coin to trade there until we find out.
Withdrawal has been enabled again.
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https://www.coins-e.com/exchange/PTS_BTC/
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Buypts.com
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Buypts.com
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Fantastic looking site!
I wish you well and hope your protoshare valuation holds! That would put the PTS market cap at over $100 million! At this rate i'm not ruling it out!
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Deposited 1 PTS into cryptsy over an hour ago to test deposit time
28 confirmations
hasn't showed up yet....
just an fyi for everyone considering them... Looks like they are having growing pains (i'll update when I see the deposit show up)
Transaction ID
540d290ef258253efeb71273a6dc8490d6584b64d615d769db7707f48af8e3fa
Update: Looks like it went through only moments later. (If i have the timezone right it posted literally Seconds after i posted this)
Update: I tried another couple transactions later for a bigger amount 10 and 15 pts and 36 and 34 confirmations later they still haven't cleared as deposits on cryptsy. Warning to those wanting to arbitrage...
Transaction IDs:
c0d8fb80ee1ac5ecdb5bae38d2d4c83baeaf5bf587fec9d6a0a567a25122d98e
a06f23f74c437ecb7cd511b9e74d43a42bc589d0081cd665f798a1e4c16ecc00
I won't continue to update here as I don't think it's the point of this thread but if they haven't cleared in the morning I'll search/create the proper forum heading to post under - The cryptsy twitter mentions new accounts take 1.5 times longer and they are still ironing out some issues so I'm not concerned with them clearing but time takes too long to do an arbitrage right now
https://bter.com
http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=pts
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/119
If you know of others let us know.
https://www.coingrounds.com/login moved to https://www.bit-u.com/login (PGP message from Silfax: http://pastebin.com/W3LcvmJ8 )
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https://www.coins-e.com/exchange/PTS_BTC/
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Having problems at Cryptsy. Put in an order in the middle of the bid/ask and canceled the order but did not get my BTC back. Other users are having the same problem. Can't trade with this site currently.
And bter.com is not secured! This site looks suspicious to me.
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https://bter.com
http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=pts
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/119
If you know of others let us know.
I built a PTS ripple gateway at http://xrpio.com. I would appreciate feedback from the community.
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Buypts.com
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Fantastic looking site!
I wish you well and hope your protoshare valuation holds! That would put the PTS market cap at over $100 million! At this rate i'm not ruling it out!
Thanks for the compliments!
It's actually my website.
I really believe Protoshares are under-valued at today's prices. Did you know that over 50% of all Protoshares have been mined already?
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Buypts.com
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On English page, it need 0.07BTC/PTS, but on Chinese language page, it need 0.11BTC/PTS, hmm.... fill not good, I don't know it have such advantage to learn English.
BTW, the design and page are beautiful, nice work.
To Chinese here: 国人真的是人傻钱多吗 :D ?
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Lulz,这算是价格歧视吧…
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On English page, it need 0.07BTC/PTS, but on Chinese language page, it need 0.11BTC/PTS, hmm.... fill not good, I don't know it have such advantage to learn English.
BTW, the design and page are beautiful, nice work.
To Chinese here: 国人真的是人傻钱多吗 :D ?
Lulz,这算是价格歧视吧…
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Very sorry about this mistake.
Please, you can be sure that if you would have ordered through the Chinese page, you would still pay 0.07.
I have changed the price to be the same on both versions.
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Buypts.com
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3.3 LTC per PTS? Can you sell my PTS for me please!!!
WTS PTS @ 3.2 LTC ;D
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Buypts.com
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3.3 LTC per PTS? Can you sell my PTS for me please!!!
WTS PTS @ 3.2 LTC ;D
+1 :)
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How are current rates for PTS?
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The google translator German is horrible!! Better keep it in English for the German audience. The people that would buy PTS speak enough English to get it... Its seems super cheap and like collecting money for a ponzi this way! Its a grammatical disaster and you don't really get what PTS/i3 is about...
Haha just realized that are some dutch parts as well :)
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Hello,
I am researching possible options to invest in PTS at competitive exchange rates and thought I would share my progress with the community, ask a question (or two :).
Unfortunately all the exchanges I have identified that handle PTS leave a lot to be desired. In some cases there are some very serious issues currently being reported en-mass. Please note that I did this research on Friday January 10, 2014 so if you have used any of the below exchanges before this date without problems, any "it worked for me" replies should take the date into account. Exchanges that have had been working before look like they are currently in trouble so your past experience may not be valid anymore.
In order of PTS volumes traded since November:
bter.com :
Serious issues being alleged upto today Jan 10 2014: failed, frozen and missing deposit and withdrawals allegedly stretching back to early December being reported on various forums/threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389591.0;all).
No support being widely reported people appear to be very worried about their holdings at this exchange.
https://startpage.com/do/search?q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+bter.com&lui=english
http://www.reddit.com/domain/bter.com/
cryptsy.com :
Alleged fraud investigation pending in Florida (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=370691.20) threatens whole site being imminently frozen.
Also failed, frozen and missing deposit and withdrawals.
Cryptsy support is reporting that it is currently overwhelmed.
https://startpage.com/do/search?q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+cryptsy&lui=english
https://startpage.com/do/search?q=cryptsy+site%3Areddit.com&lui=english
coins-e :
Very illiquid almost rules this exchange out. Volume compared to bter almost non-existent (http://bitinfocharts.com/market-comparison/bter/pts-btc/coins-e/pts-btc-all.html).
Not very many other problems being reported compared to the above two exchanges (maybe because no significant numbers of people really use it?).
https://startpage.com/do/search?q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+coins-e&lui=english
Alternatives:
btc38.com : Chinese only rules this out for me.
BuyPTS.com : Appears to have a 3-4x premium or more (today 0.055 BTC/PTS vs 0.0178 BTC/PTS (http://bitinfocharts.com/market-comparison/bter/pts-btc/cryptsy/pts-btc-all.html))
Ripple Interchange xrpio.com : Can´t check volume/bids/asks (at least without a funded ripple account - Not sure never used Ripple?).
Other notes: Interesting website for exchange comparisons might be of use to others: http://www.bitcompare.tk/
Question(s):
Are there any competitive/liquid exchanges or trading methods for PTS?
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thx ~~~~
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I used bter.com on 12/16/13 and 1/3/2014. I was able to deposit BTC and buy PTS, it did take a couple hours for my confirmations, but I was able to complete my transactions. I'm not saying that they are not having issues, just that it worked for me on those dates. I'm always sketchy about using Exchanges, and always take the get in get out as quickly as possible approach. Never leave a balance has been my SOP.
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Hello,
I am researching possible options to invest in PTS at competitive exchange rates and thought I would share my progress with the community, ask a question (or two :).
Unfortunately all the exchanges I have identified that handle PTS leave a lot to be desired. In some cases there are some very serious issues currently being reported en-mass. Please note that I did this research on Friday January 10, 2014 so if you have used any of the below exchanges before this date without problems, any "it worked for me" replies should take the date into account. Exchanges that have had been working before look like they are currently in trouble so your past experience may not be valid anymore.
In order of PTS volumes traded since November:
bter.com :
Serious issues being alleged upto today Jan 10 2014: failed, frozen and missing deposit and withdrawals allegedly stretching back to early December being reported on various forums/threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389591.0;all).
No support being widely reported people appear to be very worried about their holdings at this exchange.
https://startpage.com/do/search?q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+bter.com&lui=english
http://www.reddit.com/domain/bter.com/
cryptsy.com :
Alleged fraud investigation pending in Florida (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=370691.20) threatens whole site being imminently frozen.
Also failed, frozen and missing deposit and withdrawals.
Cryptsy support is reporting that it is currently overwhelmed.
https://startpage.com/do/search?q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+cryptsy&lui=english
https://startpage.com/do/search?q=cryptsy+site%3Areddit.com&lui=english
coins-e :
Very illiquid almost rules this exchange out. Volume compared to bter almost non-existent (http://bitinfocharts.com/market-comparison/bter/pts-btc/coins-e/pts-btc-all.html).
Not very many other problems being reported compared to the above two exchanges (maybe because no significant numbers of people really use it?).
https://startpage.com/do/search?q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+coins-e&lui=english
Alternatives:
btc38.com : Chinese only rules this out for me.
BuyPTS.com : Appears to have a 3-4x premium or more (today 0.055 BTC/PTS vs 0.0178 BTC/PTS (http://bitinfocharts.com/market-comparison/bter/pts-btc/cryptsy/pts-btc-all.html))
Ripple Interchange xrpio.com : Can´t check volume/bids/asks (at least without a funded ripple account - Not sure never used Ripple?).
Other notes: Interesting website for exchange comparisons might be of use to others: http://www.bitcompare.tk/
Question(s):
Are there any competitive/liquid exchanges or trading methods for PTS?
I've been happy with Cryptsy. I move BTC in, make the trade and then move my PTS out to my wallet. It's pretty easy and so far has been reliable. I've made 5 trades with no issue.
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I have heavily used bter and cryptsy without any real problems. Cryptsy can be a bit slow at times (both on deposits/withdrawals and sometimes even with getting order execution results, but nothing that caused me real fear). As others have said, leaving coin on an exchange has serious risks. I do it sometime to avoid the deposit time delays, but don't leave more in there than you can stand to lose. The first PTS exchange (which was cobbled together and no longer exists) got robbed of it's customer's bitcoin holdings.
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Hello, am relatively new to the forum and wanted to talk about my experience real fast. I personally haven't tried bter but for cryptsy I personally lost ~.5 btc about 2 months ago due to a mistake in their system. They had absolutely terrible support and I never received a response from them. Ever. I'm still wary about bter as I've heard of similar experiences
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I just bought my first PTS at coins-e.com. Yes, it is a relatively illiquid exchange, but the way to think about it is more like a limit order desk. The sellers are out there, you just have to be patient.
Registration is simple and completely anonymous. You can't place an order until a sufficient number of BTC are ledgered in your account. Four network verifications are required to confirm the available BTC balance and in my experience this takes slightly less than an hour. This is consistent with the posted confirmation time at coins-e.
I entered a buy order for PTS at my desired number and price, very close to the current ask price in the expectation that it would get filled as quickly as possible. The order was filled in about 20 minutes and a fee of 0.2% was charged, paid in BTC from my account. I then downloaded the PTS to my wallet (the withdraw process) and incurred a fixed fee of 0.1 PTS. So purchasing a fraction of a PTS isn't very cost effective at this time. The withdrawal cannot be initiated unless a confirmation email from coins-e is acknowledged.
I repeated the process for about 10x more PTS and it worked well. Because it was a larger order, it was filled incrementally in four separate blocks. Both the purchase and withdrawal fees remained the same. I acquired my PTS in the range of 0.016--0.017 BTC.
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Very interesting url
Do they have a good support in case of problems?
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Very interesting url
Do they have a good support in case of problems?
If you are asking about coins-e, I have not had any problems so no need to contact their support. I have purchased PTS there in 3 separate transactions during the past week. I'm not very pleased with the double fees (for trading and withdrawing PTS) but it's much better than losing coins!
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What would be the best way to sell PTS for USD? Directly, without having to convert to BTC
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What would be the best way to sell PTS for USD? Directly, without having to convert to BTC
I have not seen any that do that. I think it's just because of the relationships that are needed with banks. The alt coin type exchanges just deal in BTC to eliminate that hassle for them.
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Cool, thanks for the reply. But having a direct conversion from USD to PTS and vice versa would also make it a whole lot easier to deal with and a whole lot more independent of BTC pricing.
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Cool, thanks for the reply. But having a direct conversion from USD to PTS and vice versa would also make it a whole lot easier to deal with and a whole lot more independent of BTC pricing.
No worries. I hear what you are saying. It may take some time as Bitcoin has the several year head start going from virtual to physical.
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Cool, thanks for the reply. But having a direct conversion from USD to PTS and vice versa would also make it a whole lot easier to deal with and a whole lot more independent of BTC pricing.
Just look at how difficult it is to convert fiat into BTC and back, even with all the interest BTC is getting (both from the public and governments). With dozens upon dozens of altcoins out there, it's going to require time for the market to sort out the good from the not-so-good. Until that happens, the market for PTS will be relatively illiquid and thus not conducive to setting up a direct exchange. Such an exchange would be very good for the PTS brand, but the viability of the DAC/BTS concept is almost certainly going to have to prove itself first. At present, it's only a highly speculative niche.
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I just made my first PTS purchase at bter.com and found it to be fast and efficient. Moving BTC in, purchasing PTS, then withdrawing them to my wallet was accomplished in under an hour. My buy order was just below the market rate. The transaction fee at bter.com is slightly less than coins-e (0.18% compared to 0.2%) although the PTS withdrawal fee is the same (0.1 PTS). The interface at coins-e is cleaner and easier to navigate in my opinion, but the liquidity there is just too low to be very useful for me at this time. I'll keep watching it and hope they can build up a sufficiently large user base.
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bter got some problems with pts. Message: PTS-deposits are disabled. A pts-deposit from me, done hours before, never appears in my bter account. I took a ticket and am waiting for reply...
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Also pts problem with cryptsy. I can´t get a deposit address from them. So, what´s going on? Problems with fork?
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Just seen on poloniex...
https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_pts
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bter refunded my account, all ok!
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Bitshares PTS can be traded since today on EUROCEX: https://www.eurocex.com/market/btcpts