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中文 (Chinese) / Re: Ethereum和Bitshares的不同以及Ethereum的缺点
« on: March 10, 2014, 05:46:13 pm »
大神heyD,把视频转发到优酷上了
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Ethereum may not be a scam, but it is little better. About 22.5% of Ethereum coins are being held by the developers for "development activities." If Ethereum were to become as popular as bitcoin, the developers would have 2 billion dollars for their "deveopment."
Unlike litecoins or most other coins, Ethereum was not distributed fairly for miners to make a choice whether or not to get in. Instead, much of Ethereum is pre-mined. They don't publicize this, so most people aren't aware.
I will never support Ethereum and I suggest that people here do not either. Nobody needs to assign themselves 22.5% of a currency for any purpose. Ethereum is little better than Ripples, which are mostly held by the corporation that created them, and which makes huge profits when their value increases.
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[–]sjalq 0 points 55 minutes ago
Seriously dude, you actually wasted a few minutes of your time taking me to town for "promoting" it because I felt is was futuristic.
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[–]sjalq 0 points 56 minutes ago
The pre-mine is irrelevant to its usefulness. It does support a bunch of things (like contract states and Turing complete contracts) that Bitcoin does not and will have a very difficult time implementing.
If the system is useful why care if they pre-mined it??
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[–]quintin3265 1 point 2 seconds ago
I'm currently having an argument with someone in /r/bitcoinmarkets who has $64m in bitcoins. I told him that if I had so many bitcoins, my money would be in T-bonds tomorrow and I would resign in 2 weeks.
Similarly, if I was a developer of Ethereum, and I suddenly discovered that my 22.5% of pre-mined Ethereum coins were worth $64m, I would sell everything I had, stop working on Ethereum, and do what I want with my life.
As you can see, the main problem with developers having an excessive amount of money is that there is no reason for them to continue development. They would be fools to take the chance at having a boss telling them what to do for the rest of their lives once they would click one button and be able to decide for the first time what they want to do every moment of every day.
You might be able to make an argument for premining with a smaller number of coins, but they simply don't need that much money. It's an absurd amount. Ethereum doesn't need to mature to even a fraction of litecoins' market cap. The developers can cut out, crash the market, and most importantly take all the domain knowledge with them, and the project will die because nobody knows how to continue it.
pts 的出现 是给好多人 免费的午餐!!!!
本想翻译出来放微博上的,但想想里面涉及到了具体的某老师和机构,再想想里面有利益分配的问题,再联想起去年某老师出售股份的事情,就觉得算了吧,免得翻译不好误伤了别人。
平心而论,如果BM说的都是真的,那我真心庆幸他们赶走了Charles,我完全支持用POS/TAPOS,而不是POW,否则又走上了矿机预售,军备竞赛的老路,社区的关注点也会被转移。那时候还没有AGS,但以那样的方案,PTS能分到的极其有限。
3i如果想做出顺应潮流的东西,就不能蛮干,我们还是静静期待吧。。。
Your can be sure Charles is looking over your shoulder... patiently waiting... ...and oop, there he is again. We may be able to start a bit-Hoskinson and take bets on when he will reappear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA4O3uOxm5A
看这个BM的录像
Yep! This will be on Let's Talk Bitcoin! in early February.
不会因为它努力,我就认可。真有本事拿出点看得到的东西再到别人坛子里说。
But profit will only be produced by decentralized autonomous companies, so where do i3's profit seeking objectives actually meet with their theory of DACs? And how exactly did li xiaolai and any other initial investor see that their investment would return over time?
It has been said/implied in other places, but I would like to outline our strategy for Invictus making a return for the shareholders of I3.
1) Invictus develops software at-cost and takes no profit as a company. Ie: We will be spending 100% of AGS funds on R&D with no fee-for-service.
a) Officers in the company receive salaries far below market value.
2) Invictus used initial VC funds to do the following:
a) build & develop a business plan
b) build PTS
c) mine & buy PTS
d) contribute funds to AGS on equal footing with everyone else.
e) we have only received $450K of the initial $575K commitment as scheduled.
3) As a result of the initial steps the company holds free and clear (as profit) about 5% of the Feb 28th snapshot which we estimate to be worth about $2.5 million based upon PTS price prior to snapshot. If we were to distribute everything except the AGS funds our investors would already see a profit and we haven't even released our first full DAC yet.
4) As we spend the 4+ million in AGS funds we have received we will grow the value of our 5% along with the other 95% which is owned by the community.
5) The nice thing about this strategy is that our 'profits' are all in the form of capital gains.
The numbers and figures used in this example are mere approximations and should not be construed to represent actual numbers which only our accountant has.
The original business plan when Charles was CEO was something along the lines of:
1) Build Keyhotee and attract a lot of eyeballs (users)
2) Monetize these eyeballs through hardware sales (wallet, miners, add-on services)
3) Build DACs that use our dedicated mining hardware.
4) Run a mining pool and collect all of the fees.
As you can see we had to pivot our business plan when I eliminated mining. You can also see that our new business model aligns our interests with those of the community much better than the old plan. By owning shares in profit generating DACs Invictus in turn also generates profits.
Lastly we are partnering with other companies and we are earning revenue from consulting and custom development (outside of AGS).
加是得加,前提是3I知道怎么加,和理解这种做法的必要性. 不是我们在这等待,到时候就有了.很难说.
面对现实,看看邮箱的UI 设计,那得是多菜多不关心用户的体验的程序员才能做成那样.在做程序前,能不能先画个图,就按这个设计做?如果他能做好,还用大家操啥心,闭眼等待就好了.