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中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTS X 系统中关于借贷利率的问题
« on: March 19, 2014, 01:28:46 am »
买空卖多就是有抵押的借贷杠杆。这个btsx里就有。完全没有抵押的应该不会去实现
有人曾经提议过有借贷利率功能,但是就BM的意思是BTSX实现的是基本功能,借贷利,期货,股票这些是BTSX的后继版者BTX I  BTXX....完成。

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谢谢,辛苦了
我最近发现最没有修养的多是80后,其实这还真不能怪你们,主要是天朝当时不让你们的父母受教育,导致中华的“礼”文化在你们父母辈断了。随口骂人是低等种族的行为,我们中华民族是有文化底蕴的,不该和低等民族为伍
我不知你是几0后,但从你的语言来看,你的教育足够惊人!
可以讽刺,调侃 但不要带脏字。像F-word 更是不适合在坛子上出现。其实这反映了你自己的文化修养。我70末80初的。

978

这个我有两点点疑惑和两点建议。
疑惑:1、这个DAC或者其他所有的DAC起步的共同的问题,这个如何注入资产?是通过交易所?还是有其他更好的办法?
刚开始时需要借助交易所,等btsx开始运行,可以用BTSX把法币比特币变为筹码(BTSL)
2、这个DAC的算力提供方式是采用pOS还是POW?各划分多少比例的收益给算力提供者才能同时对矿工,彩民,持有人都保持足够的吸引力?
TaPOS,和btsx的原理是一样。必须买筹码(BTSL)才能成为矿工。具体分配可以参考
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=3623.0

979
中文名就叫“一定赢”,英文名叫“lottowin”

980
好好规划,这个彩票如果做好了就是网上澳门了。千万不要小看了

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谢谢,辛苦了
我最近发现最没有修养的多是80后,其实这还真不能怪你们,主要是天朝当时不让你们的父母受教育,导致中华的“礼”文化在你们父母辈断了。随口骂人是低等种族的行为,我们中华民族是有文化底蕴的,不该和低等民族为伍

982
1)不需要每天都有头奖,要有奖金彩池。这样一段时间积累后可以开大奖
2)要有手机客户端(p2p 技术),方便彩民下赌注。网页版的容易被天朝屏蔽。
3)如果需要我可以帮忙注册海外公司

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 关于Bitshares Me的分红问题
« on: March 17, 2014, 05:40:33 pm »
再说2句,bitshare的原理不是什么人都能理解的。每个历史时期都有一些人看得比大部分人远。盖茨看到每个人都有桌面电脑,所以10年后他成功了。bitshare正是这样一个开启未来的应用,当然最后成功的不一定是3i但bitshare的理念一定会成功

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 关于Bitshares Me的分红问题
« on: March 17, 2014, 05:30:09 pm »
想过没有,所有bitshare平台上的DAC虚拟币都可以用BTS形式来结算。直接在BTSX平台上交易就可以了。3i的平台可以建立起自己的锚定法币的金融生态圈。今后所有3i平台上的虚拟币都对应一项服务,而不是像现在山寨币那样烧电求涨价。如果3i顺利发展,应该是大部分山寨币的末日。
3I 在数字货币届也算一个大公司了,交易市场上很多币的开发团队也就是一两个人,于其上线很多由一两个人开发的币,不如多上线几个3I开发的币。到时候时带上一大部分都是3I的产品,又能如何? 你去电脑城看看,APPLE的产品也很多种吧,不是照样火吗。
没想到连管理员也跑出来了。APPLE是硬件,作为实物有应用价值。虚拟币这个不同,还没有得到大范围人认可,目前除了BTC之外应用价值几乎很少。MB与BTSX就不说了,
但是3I如果还是以虚拟币的形式分红,这样会搞垮接下去所有的DAC。除非每样虚拟币价格稳定,作为价格稳定的虚拟商品,应用到某些交易中去。不是因为上交易平台作为炒作的币而使得价格不稳。

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我太开心看到这里的争吵了。其实我很希望大家把手上的pts都抛了。

如果你们有自己编译一下btsx的测试版并测试,那我相信你们自少会等几个月后再发言。BTSX是目前市场上唯一的买空卖空的去中心交易平台。

bitshare me是让我们以前的投资多了一项回报,有什么可以拒绝的,有利益拿我自己很高兴

就冲这点3I已经不再值得继续投资,除非先证明自己。
我在这里警告那些,拿不出任何有说服力的话语,说不出任何道理的死忠们,你个人的选择是你自己的事,不要祸害其它中国人。

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares X Status Update
« on: March 16, 2014, 01:05:05 am »
hi dan,  just wondering if you have any estimated date in mind for releasing BTSXT?  form your latest update, I have a feeling that you are going to move bitshare me ahead of BTSXT. correct me if i am wrong ...


Assuming this test is successful, we will use this chain as the snapshot chain for future revisions of BitShares XT that add BitAsset support.   Recent discussions in the BTS X attack thread have necessitated some significant thought and changes including among them:

   a) Closer evaluation of the Initial Margin requirements.  (10x is too much, 2x may be too little)
   b) Closer evaluation of the Maintenance Margin requirements.  (If it is too high, it increases risks for shorts, too low we risk running out of collateral on short squeezes)
   c) More robust algorithm for measuring market depth with a focus on positions near the price point.  Initial implementation simply looked at total shares involved without consideration of their price relative to other bids.   The exact details on this need to be resolved.
   d) Consider implementation of circuit breakers that halt trading if the price changes too quickly.  This will help mitigate many attacks and effects caused by short squeezes. 

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熊熊,不急。有糖糖吃。。。。。
其实吧市场分成有抵押和没抵押2个部分也是个不错的办法。 这样可以先活跃一下BTS的宣传效果。而且实现bitshare me的代码已经基本完成了。只要测试一下,没有像btsx系统那么多的风险。 保持投资者对BTS市场的持续关注也是很重要的
BM到底想干嘛?
脑子进水了是不?
整天不好好写代码
BTS X进度落后了那么多
还有空到处大篇大篇的发帖子思考怎么让支持者掏钱投AGS?
定好的2.28快照分配方案,居然“我有一个疯狂的想法”,你想个屁啊?
现在是干活的时候,是人家付了钱你要交货,而不是东西做到一半又开始谈价钱想着去刺激AGS竞投
屁事不干,就知道要钱,要你妈啊? 老子冒火

再说这个BTS ME吧,你测试就给个BTS X阉割版的出来测试吧,我们无所谓的,你就算明年出来我也无所谓,或者你想提高AGS竞投我把自己的AGS全送给你也无所谓,麻烦请你先干活,先注意下进度
草泥马还是继续说这个BTS ME吧,既然是BTS X的简化版,以后的BTS X也要出来,那么我请问这个ME的使命到底是什么?以后出了X又如何处理? 让2个BTS X并存? 还是把ME当做玩具车给我们玩?
你他妈以为挣钱很好挣吗?就这样忽悠,老子真的是气死了,3I在我心目中的信誉已经破产了
曾经我是多么支持你们,再慢我也能忍受,也会宣传
可是现在这样搞,实在是太失望了,做生意没有你们这么做的
东西搞到一半,大家都等着米下锅了,你居然说AGS的价钱我们再好好谈一谈......

FUCK ...

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别担心,其实BM是为BitShares ME造势。大概就是要达到推出新的快照让大家继续投资AGS的目的

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As you can see there are many aspects of this that requires both development and extensive testing and none of these should be rushed.  We will likely introduce BitShares ME  (new snapshot taken from AGS/PTS) as an incremental step toward testing the Bid/Ask system with custom assets prior to implementing the more sensitive short/long system in BTS XT. 
最好别改
改了3I基本也就信用破产了

这不是你考虑后面AGS利益的时候
假如真想考虑,就努力的做DAC吧
而不是现在还在想这些问题,第一次稍微有丁点失望了

989
看了BM的帖子,感觉近期内PTS会有大变动。大家的看法如何呢?BM想推高pts的价值。



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AGS holders are not diluted by this at all as the value of their 10% is independent of the 10% held by PTS holders.   It will affect the PTS/AGS price ratio, but not the BTC/AGS price ratio. 

On the other hand stopping inflation of PTS and making AGS liquid at the same time may add value to both parties positions and would dramatically simplify the understanding of our ecosystem.  The benefits might be a win for all.   

I think we may have a good plan here if we can get enough community buy-in.


Ok, so to clarify, this proposal is to fork PTS into a TaPOS chain, with a total supply of 4 million, and genesis block consisting of a current PTS snapshot scaled up to 2 million, along with 2 million current AGS state.  Is this correct?

If that's the plan, the question would be how exactly to rework the PTS side of the AGS donations.  Either the daily BTC donation reward could absorb the PTS allocation, or the time frame could be extended.

First of all, this is just a wild idea and not a throughly thought out plan.   But if we were to make such a move we could probably do one of three things:
 
   a) Wait until 200 days of AGS is over.
   b) End AGS early (increasing the value of existing AGS at the expense of necessary funding)
   c) End AGS early and assign unallocated AGS to the development fund as part of the new chain.  As it would now be liquid we could simply sell it into the market rather than auction it like we are doing with AGS.  The proceeds from this sale could then be added to the development fund just as if AGS had continued to auction off the positions.  In fact, we could automate the sale of the AGS payout without changing the auction dynamics at all. 

In the event that PTS were to suffer an attack or 'die' between now and the end of AGS then would simply take a snapshot of the chain.   However, with the plans and things we have in the pipe I doubt the PTS price will remain suppressed for much longer. 

Now lets make one thing clear about this discussion as I know certain individuals abhor any changes.   I want community feedback on any changes with a focus on maximizing value of existing shareholders stake.  If it is not a clear win for everyone then I will not consider it.

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General Discussion / Re: GET YOUR BTS XT Wallet Here!
« on: March 14, 2014, 05:50:08 pm »
just try to push this thread on the top <grin>

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