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Marketplace / Re: [WTS] 35PTS @0.1 BTC Each
« on: November 26, 2013, 04:11:47 pm »
Not gonna happen anytime soon "><b>
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BitShares PTS / Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« on: November 26, 2013, 11:16:55 am »Is the the difficulty incrased since the last 2 days or we are only unlucky? 15 blocks discovered in 30 hours...
The good news is that I've been paid and pts arrived on my wallet. Good job!
PS: any news about compiling ptsminer on Macos Xor? Thank you for your job guys!
Less miner equals less block per day but more reward per block, avg payout is unchanged by number of miners if the timeframe is big enough - less miners mean longer timeframe, alot of miners shorter.
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Keyhotee / Re: Screen Shot
« on: November 26, 2013, 10:00:43 am »
Is Keyhotee forked from PTS? And if so, how can you use your PTS to credit your id if you have to mine them aka different private keys...
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BitShares PTS / Re: GPU Miners are here... if rumors are to be believed!
« on: November 25, 2013, 10:13:04 pm »But you cannot economically switch your CPU back to LTC mining when you are done with PTS, so it is not just the power draw.
True but you won't have invested into gpus in the first place and i guess your cpu is already present so - win win i guess
This is mostly viable for all those gpu rigs owner although ltc is more profitable than pts right now, even with the gpu miner bonus ^^
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BitShares PTS / Re: GPU Miners are here... if rumors are to be believed!
« on: November 25, 2013, 08:53:09 pm »My 7950 at 1025/1250 ran at 515 cpm, dual gpu 510 cpm each - power draw about 200-225W per GPU, 50W for the System -> 450-500W for 1000 cpm -> around 2 cpm per W
My i5-3570k at home draws 90W under load (whole system) for 120 cpm, thats 1.33 cpm/w
e5 Xeons are better cpm/w (i think they even beat gpus) but are not realistic to compare since one e5 costs around 1000-2000€ and a 7950 200€ max.
Your i5 is better cpm/w than a GPU which means that those who own i5's can still mine profitably and cover electric costs. Those who are investing in capital equipment just for mining care about CPM/w and CPM/capital in which case they will probably opt for the GPU approach. But for the average casual miner capital costs are '0' which means all that matters is CPM/w. I believe that an i7 is probably around 1 cpm/w.
As an individual miner, it is cheaper to mine with your CPU than your GPU if you care about return on electricity. That is a win in my book!
1.2 CPM per Watt is worse than 2 CPM per Watt...but yeah, close enough to make cpu mining still a viable option.
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BitShares PTS / Re: GPU Miners are here... if rumors are to be believed!
« on: November 25, 2013, 08:33:37 pm »
My 7950 at 1025/1250 ran at 515 cpm, dual gpu 510 cpm each - power draw about 200-225W per GPU, 50W for the System -> 450-500W for 1000 cpm -> around 2 cpm per W
My i5-3570k at home draws 90W under load (whole system) for 120 cpm, thats 1.33 cpm/w
e5 Xeons are better cpm/w (i think they even beat gpus) but are not realistic to compare since one e5 costs around 1000-2000€ and a 7950 200€ max.
My i5-3570k at home draws 90W under load (whole system) for 120 cpm, thats 1.33 cpm/w
e5 Xeons are better cpm/w (i think they even beat gpus) but are not realistic to compare since one e5 costs around 1000-2000€ and a 7950 200€ max.
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Keyhotee / Re: Keyhotee Lottery 0.51 per Ticket win a Pre-Order ID! Congrats, Sy_
« on: November 25, 2013, 07:24:29 pm »
So - do those 10 pts guarantee me a founders id or are they limited by number?
Yes you are guaranteed a Founder's ID, but which one you get depends on whether there are higher bidders for it. Choose your name and alternates well.
Yes you are guaranteed a Founder's ID, but which one you get depends on whether there are higher bidders for it. Choose your name and alternates well.
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General Discussion / Re: Is there any timeline for all this?
« on: November 25, 2013, 07:06:13 pm »
*thumbs up*
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Keyhotee / Re: Keyhotee Lottery 0.51 per Ticket win a Pre-Order ID! Congrats, Sy_
« on: November 25, 2013, 07:31:41 am »
Thanks everyone 
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BitShares PTS / Re: GPU Miners are here... if rumors are to be believed!
« on: November 22, 2013, 06:15:58 pm »Difficulty is still increasing and rewards falling. The next million will take a lot longer to mine.
True but diff time has ben undercut by factor 4 so far so we are done in roughly 6-8 month if this continues ^^
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BitShares PTS / Re: GPU Miners are here... if rumors are to be believed!
« on: November 22, 2013, 05:06:30 pm »
Let's see where this goes, i fear that it will turn to "just another gpu coin" cpu coins are in fact kinda special...
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BitShares PTS / Re: GPU Miners are here... if rumors are to be believed!
« on: November 22, 2013, 04:51:50 pm »
A 5870 runs at 420 cpm so a 7950 should run at around 700-800 cpm i guess, which turns a 4 gpu 7950 rig into a 2800-3200 cpm beast beating every "high end" cpu out there easily.
You need 9 32 core c3 amazon instances to get that number, running at roughly 4.5$ per hour, a quad 7950 rig draws around 1.2 KW -> even in sucky Germany lousy 30 Cent per hour. Around the world even below 10.
Come again why this is good? This makes PTS more profitable than LTC and you don't want big farms to switch...this might push out cpus pretty quickly, making it a bit more specialised.
You need 9 32 core c3 amazon instances to get that number, running at roughly 4.5$ per hour, a quad 7950 rig draws around 1.2 KW -> even in sucky Germany lousy 30 Cent per hour. Around the world even below 10.
Come again why this is good? This makes PTS more profitable than LTC and you don't want big farms to switch...this might push out cpus pretty quickly, making it a bit more specialised.
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General Discussion / Re: Momentum 2.0 Discussion
« on: November 22, 2013, 03:00:31 pm »Please, don't compare us with music industry, it has absolutely nothing to do. This is about a business model and how shares could be distributed, not about copyright.
1. We don't want to make it hard for everyone, just for botnets. And this is what this thread is all about.
2. Every good miner gets much less than it could if there were no botnets.
3. Invictus and their supporters get less if they put things easy to botnets.
4. Nobody says nothing against anonimity, but about identity, which is what Keyhotee is all about.
5. This is an idea of Invictus, they are free to impose the rules they want. If you don't like them, don't use the system or fork it.
¿Perhaps you have something to loose so you insist so much about not putting things difficult to botnets?
Na, just more realistic than the others out there who scream botnets are evil and unfair, why waste energy into something you can't change - and if, at any point, it makes it uncomfortable for the user, your main audience, it's not worth it.
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General Discussion / Re: Momentum 2.0 Discussion
« on: November 22, 2013, 11:32:53 am »
Which brings me straight back to my prevous quote - dont make it a pain in the ass.
You guys sound like the music industry and mp3s - just accept that there is a part you can't control and don't make it hard for everyone else - you are not really missing out, every miner still gets the same with or without botnets mining.
This is the internet, you are doomed if you try to control everything - signed mining, seriously? For a currency which greatest benefit has always been anonymity...
You guys sound like the music industry and mp3s - just accept that there is a part you can't control and don't make it hard for everyone else - you are not really missing out, every miner still gets the same with or without botnets mining.
This is the internet, you are doomed if you try to control everything - signed mining, seriously? For a currency which greatest benefit has always been anonymity...
