A lot of people have expressed interest in having me/CNX focus on the DEX.Where's percentage based fee? I'm wondering why you keep ignoring BSIP4. Do you think it is worthless?
If that is the case, I can create a worker proposal that will fund almost full time DEX development. It will require about $30K per month to have Val, Ben, James, and I working on the DEX 75% of the time.
Otherwise we will have to find other ways to make money.
What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
A lot of people have expressed interest in having me/CNX focus on the DEX.
If that is the case, I can create a worker proposal that will fund almost full time DEX development. It will require about $30K per month to have Val, Ben, James, and I working on the DEX 75% of the time.
Otherwise we will have to find other ways to make money.
What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
A lot of people have expressed interest in having me/CNX focus on the DEX.
If that is the case, I can create a worker proposal that will fund almost full time DEX development. It will require about $30K per month to have Val, Ben, James, and I working on the DEX 75% of the time.
Otherwise we will have to find other ways to make money.
What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
+5%What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
I suggest that you not let the outspoken shareholders hold you hostage. They claim you are holding them hostage, but that couldn't be further from the truth. They need to learn how to get organized, find talent (developers), and fund development of the projects they want to see developed. This is their problem, not yours alone (or CNX's), and it is better they learn how to properly use Bitshares' features now rather than later. Let them organize the projects, find developers, fund them, etc... to build out the features as they want them built. It will be a good lesson for the community and a proof of concept of sorts for Bitshares' features. They need to learn nothing is free and to stop being so cheap. The first independent developer thread has started and they're already talking about outsourcing the work overseas to some quasi sweatshop worker that will work for $5 a hour... let them learn the hard way.
You were right to deduce that your time will be better spent working on MAS than the DEX. Your idea of mutual aid societies will have a much bigger effect on the Bitshares token price than "finishing" the DEX will. MAS has no competition in the cryptosphere... the DEX has AT LEAST 4 competing projects fighting over a small and limited user base (most of which has already made up their minds one way or the other about Bitshares.) Swing for the fences. These guys can't see your vision right now and how much more lucrative it is than "finishing" the DEX, but they will be thanking you a year from now if you push on with your MAS idea and the user base expands exponentially because of such (along with the value of the BTS token and ironically the liquidity/volume of the DEX.) The PR alone from this will be worth its weight in bitGOLD.
If that is the case, I can create a worker proposal that will fund almost full time DEX development. It will require about $30K per month to have Val, Ben, James, and I working on the DEX 75% of the time.I appreciate it a lot that you've made this proposal. Even if the price is quite high, at least we are offered a choice.
A lot of people have expressed interest in having me/CNX focus on the DEX.
If that is the case, I can create a worker proposal that will fund almost full time DEX development. It will require about $30K per month to have Val, Ben, James, and I working on the DEX 75% of the time.
Otherwise we will have to find other ways to make money.
What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
I suggest that you not let the outspoken shareholders hold you hostage. They claim you are holding them hostage, but that couldn't be further from the truth. They need to learn how to get organized, find talent (developers), and fund development of the projects they want to see developed. This is their problem, not yours alone (or CNX's), and it is better they learn how to properly use Bitshares' features now rather than later. Let them organize the projects, find developers, fund them, etc... to build out the features as they want them built. It will be a good lesson for the community and a proof of concept of sorts for Bitshares' features. They need to learn nothing is free and to stop being so cheap. The first independent developer thread has started and they're already talking about outsourcing the work overseas to some quasi sweatshop worker that will work for $5 a hour... let them learn the hard way.
You were right to deduce that your time will be better spent working on MAS than the DEX. Your idea of mutual aid societies will have a much bigger effect on the Bitshares token price than "finishing" the DEX will. MAS has no competition in the cryptosphere... the DEX has AT LEAST 4 competing projects fighting over a small and limited user base (most of which has already made up their minds one way or the other about Bitshares.) Swing for the fences. These guys can't see your vision right now and how much more lucrative it is than "finishing" the DEX, but they will be thanking you a year from now if you push on with your MAS idea and the user base expands exponentially because of such (along with the value of the BTS token and ironically the liquidity/volume of the DEX.) The PR alone from this will be worth its weight in bitGOLD.
A lot of people have expressed interest in having me/CNX focus on the DEX.
If that is the case, I can create a worker proposal that will fund almost full time DEX development. It will require about $30K per month to have Val, Ben, James, and I working on the DEX 75% of the time.
Otherwise we will have to find other ways to make money.
What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
I don't think this is unfair and is just what it costs CNX to do more work at this stage.
It would be good to see estimated timelines for each feature.
Given that we can possibly get Latvian/other Devs for $12k a year, I think CNX's focus should also be on trying to create a second team of overseas devs that are outsourced whatever work it is possible for them to handle.
BTS's value would increase substantially with another team or group of developers working on improving BTS at the same time & for much less than US based devs could.
Helping get as many new devs up and running would also free you to work on MAS/personal passion and focus on the more lucrative banking/other contracts CNX has.
+5%What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
I suggest that you not let the outspoken shareholders hold you hostage. They claim you are holding them hostage, but that couldn't be further from the truth. They need to learn how to get organized, find talent (developers), and fund development of the projects they want to see developed. This is their problem, not yours alone (or CNX's), and it is better they learn how to properly use Bitshares' features now rather than later. Let them organize the projects, find developers, fund them, etc... to build out the features as they want them built. It will be a good lesson for the community and a proof of concept of sorts for Bitshares' features. They need to learn nothing is free and to stop being so cheap. The first independent developer thread has started and they're already talking about outsourcing the work overseas to some quasi sweatshop worker that will work for $5 a hour... let them learn the hard way.
You were right to deduce that your time will be better spent working on MAS than the DEX. Your idea of mutual aid societies will have a much bigger effect on the Bitshares token price than "finishing" the DEX will. MAS has no competition in the cryptosphere... the DEX has AT LEAST 4 competing projects fighting over a small and limited user base (most of which has already made up their minds one way or the other about Bitshares.) Swing for the fences. These guys can't see your vision right now and how much more lucrative it is than "finishing" the DEX, but they will be thanking you a year from now if you push on with your MAS idea and the user base expands exponentially because of such (along with the value of the BTS token and ironically the liquidity/volume of the DEX.) The PR alone from this will be worth its weight in bitGOLD.
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A lot of people have expressed interest in having me/CNX focus on the DEX.
If that is the case, I can create a worker proposal that will fund almost full time DEX development. It will require about $30K per month to have Val, Ben, James, and I working on the DEX 75% of the time.
Otherwise we will have to find other ways to make money.
What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
I don't think this is unfair and is just what it costs CNX to do more work at this stage.
It would be good to see estimated timelines for each feature.
Given that we can possibly get Latvian/other Devs for $12k a year, I think CNX's focus should also be on trying to create a second team of overseas devs that are outsourced whatever work it is possible for them to handle.
BTS's value would increase substantially with another team or group of developers working on improving BTS at the same time & for much less than US based devs could.
Helping get as many new devs up and running would also free you to work on MAS/personal passion and focus on the more lucrative banking/other contracts CNX has.
I like this idea. why not create a worker proposal to train up a bunch of cheaper devs from eastern europe so that company can compete against CNX.
Maybe CNX can manage these cheaper, hands-on developer teams for awhile and overtime they may become more self-reliant.A lot of people have expressed interest in having me/CNX focus on the DEX.
If that is the case, I can create a worker proposal that will fund almost full time DEX development. It will require about $30K per month to have Val, Ben, James, and I working on the DEX 75% of the time.
Otherwise we will have to find other ways to make money.
What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
I don't think this is unfair and is just what it costs CNX to do more work at this stage.
It would be good to see estimated timelines for each feature.
Given that we can possibly get Latvian/other Devs for $12k a year, I think CNX's focus should also be on trying to create a second team of overseas devs that are outsourced whatever work it is possible for them to handle.
BTS's value would increase substantially with another team or group of developers working on improving BTS at the same time & for much less than US based devs could.
Helping get as many new devs up and running would also free you to work on MAS/personal passion and focus on the more lucrative banking/other contracts CNX has.
I like this idea. why not create a worker proposal to train up a bunch of cheaper devs from eastern europe so that company can compete against CNX.
I think this is the direction Jakub is going, probably at a more realistic place & KenCode seems like someone who could ultimately manage such a team - https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20823.0.html
I wouldn't say compete with CNX as new visionary features are something BM & CNX are ideal for, but completing the periphery work at a price BTS can afford as well as the more mundane work, could be ideal for a cheaper group of BTS proficient E. European devs.
+5%What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
I suggest that you not let the outspoken shareholders hold you hostage. They claim you are holding them hostage, but that couldn't be further from the truth. They need to learn how to get organized, find talent (developers), and fund development of the projects they want to see developed. This is their problem, not yours alone (or CNX's), and it is better they learn how to properly use Bitshares' features now rather than later. Let them organize the projects, find developers, fund them, etc... to build out the features as they want them built. It will be a good lesson for the community and a proof of concept of sorts for Bitshares' features. They need to learn nothing is free and to stop being so cheap. The first independent developer thread has started and they're already talking about outsourcing the work overseas to some quasi sweatshop worker that will work for $5 a hour... let them learn the hard way.
You were right to deduce that your time will be better spent working on MAS than the DEX. Your idea of mutual aid societies will have a much bigger effect on the Bitshares token price than "finishing" the DEX will. MAS has no competition in the cryptosphere... the DEX has AT LEAST 4 competing projects fighting over a small and limited user base (most of which has already made up their minds one way or the other about Bitshares.) Swing for the fences. These guys can't see your vision right now and how much more lucrative it is than "finishing" the DEX, but they will be thanking you a year from now if you push on with your MAS idea and the user base expands exponentially because of such (along with the value of the BTS token and ironically the liquidity/volume of the DEX.) The PR alone from this will be worth its weight in bitGOLD.
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A lot of people have expressed interest in having me/CNX focus on the DEX.Where's percentage based fee? I'm wondering why you keep ignoring BSIP4. Do you think it is worthless?
If that is the case, I can create a worker proposal that will fund almost full time DEX development. It will require about $30K per month to have Val, Ben, James, and I working on the DEX 75% of the time.
Otherwise we will have to find other ways to make money.
What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
A lot of people have expressed interest in having me/CNX focus on the DEX.
If that is the case, I can create a worker proposal that will fund almost full time DEX development. It will require about $30K per month to have Val, Ben, James, and I working on the DEX 75% of the time.
Otherwise we will have to find other ways to make money.
What are your thoughts on such a proposal? We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.
I'm actually somewhat surprise DSN, as you're usually the voice of reason when it comes to doing market research and making a solid business plan based on it. Perhaps you have inside information swaying you? But I see no such plan presented, just a concept and a pitch. Part of that plan should be "opportunity costs" for business lost in one market b/c the focus is shifted to another one. All we ask as shareholders is accountable transparency. I thought this forum and specifically this discussion of priorities, DEX / MAS was part of that process.
I don't claim to know the best way for you, or anyone, to spend their time; However I for one would be perfectly fine with "about $30K per month to have Val, Ben, James, and I working on the DEX 75% of the time." One way or another, development needs to continue on a multitude of fronts.
I have a hard time imagining how funding the very people who conceived, architected, and developed BitShares (this still not fully explored or understood powerhouse of a blockchain) could be anything but beneficial.
Knowing this crowd, I will be preemptive here and also say I would support a complimentary worker proposal that saw you mentoring other talented developers to help cultivate a plurality of skilled devs within the bts ecosystem.
All this said, a hearty +5% to what was expressed by @CoinHoarder here as well.
+5%I don't claim to know the best way for you, or anyone, to spend their time; However I for one would be perfectly fine with "about $30K per month to have Val, Ben, James, and I working on the DEX 75% of the time." One way or another, development needs to continue on a multitude of fronts.
I have a hard time imagining how funding the very people who conceived, architected, and developed BitShares (this still not fully explored or understood powerhouse of a blockchain) could be anything but beneficial.
Knowing this crowd, I will be preemptive here and also say I would support a complimentary worker proposal that saw you mentoring other talented developers to help cultivate a plurality of skilled devs within the bts ecosystem.
All this said, a hearty +5% to what was expressed by @CoinHoarder here as well.
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I support paying bytemaster and crew 30k USD per month for continuing to improve the DEX
This thread was a result of that pressure from forum members (I didn't say stakeholders) in my estimation.
+5%I don't claim to know the best way for you, or anyone, to spend their time; However I for one would be perfectly fine with "about $30K per month to have Val, Ben, James, and I working on the DEX 75% of the time." One way or another, development needs to continue on a multitude of fronts.
I have a hard time imagining how funding the very people who conceived, architected, and developed BitShares (this still not fully explored or understood powerhouse of a blockchain) could be anything but beneficial.
Knowing this crowd, I will be preemptive here and also say I would support a complimentary worker proposal that saw you mentoring other talented developers to help cultivate a plurality of skilled devs within the bts ecosystem.
All this said, a hearty +5% to what was expressed by @CoinHoarder here as well.
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I will set something up because it is apparent that BitShares needs continuous development and maintenance of its core features.
Rather than having one worker proposal, I will define 4 proposals. Each proposal will be for $7500 per month. The proposals will be "open ended" without specific tasks assigned beyond "maintaining and enhancing existing features". This will cover the cost of fixing bugs, improving documentation, adding GUI support for existing features on the blockchain (proposed transactions, white listing, withdraw permissions), improving the API, etc.
The community can then vote for how much to fund us and we will put in the time proportional to funding.
Any unfunded time will be spent building our own business on top of bitshares.