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Quote from: Ander on May 18, 2015, 06:20:02 pmMany of the points NewMine raised are important, and correct.The thing that pissed me off about NewMine wasnt his posts here. It was his posts publically bashing Bitshares on Bitcointalk.If you want to be helpful, you keep the criticism inside the family, not out in the open.And we sound like a legit family don't we? I'm glad to see nothing has changed here (except the software)
Many of the points NewMine raised are important, and correct.The thing that pissed me off about NewMine wasnt his posts here. It was his posts publically bashing Bitshares on Bitcointalk.If you want to be helpful, you keep the criticism inside the family, not out in the open.
Quote from: Ander on May 18, 2015, 06:20:02 pmMany of the points NewMine raised are important, and correct."Important" ?How about irrelevant, and distracting from our laser focussed marketing promotional vision.Quote from: newmine on May 18, 2015, 07:43:08 amDan threatened to abandon BTSX if the merger did not happen.Dan definitely proposed delegate pay of +$2Khe claimed I3 had plenty of funds.Stan is a propaganda artist Dan is not "like" a Steve Jobs Bitshares is not like the next Apple.VOTE has no "secret sauce"AK is a drain on BTS funds PTS needed an upgrade last MarchFreetrade secretly gave himself a boatload of MMC in the genesis block Charles Evans was too close to the project given he was auditing AGS funds. He left ~5 days after pointing this out.These are some of the major points I believe I helped come to light.True but who cares, and what do they have to do with BitShares version 1.O?BitShares logo is blue!! f'n blue!!!Dan's last name starts with the letter "L" (and he capitalizes it!)Dan and Stan live in Virginia!! Why is nobody talking about this!!BitShares is 2 syllables!!!!Bytemaster has over 8 thousand posts! Doesn't anybody care here but me!!!!BitShares is changing!!!! OMG!!!! Bitcoin is not!!!! ahhhhh!!!yeah.....and.......guess what... life changes...some cry, others try.
Many of the points NewMine raised are important, and correct.
Dan threatened to abandon BTSX if the merger did not happen.Dan definitely proposed delegate pay of +$2Khe claimed I3 had plenty of funds.Stan is a propaganda artist Dan is not "like" a Steve Jobs Bitshares is not like the next Apple.VOTE has no "secret sauce"AK is a drain on BTS funds PTS needed an upgrade last MarchFreetrade secretly gave himself a boatload of MMC in the genesis block Charles Evans was too close to the project given he was auditing AGS funds. He left ~5 days after pointing this out.These are some of the major points I believe I helped come to light.
yes, I am ignorant of more things than I will ever know
Quote from: newmine on May 18, 2015, 07:43:08 amThere are definitely delegate squatters. 3% and 100%ers. For crying out loud, some 100%ers are in the low 90% reliability range and one is in the 80% range. The goddamn network is less secure because of them.This is why the new system separates workers (with finite pay period) from witnesses (producers), from delegates (who propose forks and changes). Problem solved. NextQuote from: newmine on May 18, 2015, 07:43:08 amDan definitely passively threatened to abandon BTSX if the merger did not happen.Which he had every right to do. He made a fully functional BTSX that exceeded expectations, and then went on to the next chapter of his life. We did not own him (as much as we do now)(merger guaranteed BM support like a "no compete clause" in a contract) BM abandonment issues solved. Next.Quote from: newmine on May 18, 2015, 07:43:08 amDan definitely proposed delegate pay of +$2K a few days after he claimed I3 had plenty of funds.At that market cap, we all had "plenty of funds", and delegate pay was equal to about $2K. Delegates always got paid in BTS not BitUSD. Old news, never changed. Next.Quote from: newmine on May 18, 2015, 07:43:08 amStan is a propaganda artist spreading more BS than I can even come up with in my wildest dreams.Stan loves to talk about BitShares, always has, always will. I ignore him constantly because I'm not into cheer-leading, but hey, that's just me.Stan meet Newmine, Newmine, Stan. There, now you have met Dan's proud (real proud) papa. Do you have kids? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuyfRtvadh0Quote from: newmine on May 18, 2015, 07:43:08 amDan is not "like" a Steve Jobs and Bitshares is not like the next Apple.Those are solid facts, maybe not as important as protecting BitShares workers, witnesses, and delegates from government persecution, or providing the most competitive banking / asset options on the planet, or constructing a solid back end with integrated comprehensive marketing solution (new automated user monetization function to spark front end development) but, yeah, you speak the truth. Quote from: newmine on May 18, 2015, 07:43:08 amVOTE has no "secret sauce" as I pointed out when FMV met with CALVO.That too is a solid fact. They are not disclosing the exact details of what they are working on. Eddie and Cob are doing the same low profile development, and I'm glad because the competition is fierce. Nobody really knows what all those guys are detailing exactly, but I'm sure the competition would love to find out. Who do you work for again?Quote from: newmine on May 18, 2015, 07:43:08 amAK is only a drain on BTS funds and wealth as has been proven with his lack of presence and effect so far.Damn, I did not realize that the FMV vote project was dead (good thing that their 1% of this co-op is only vesting and can't be liquidated for a while)(so you can sell your stake before them first if you choose).Hey wait a minute....https://followmyvote.com/team/ha ha, you got me Newmine, that was a good one. You are a funny guy. For a moment there, I thought that nobody was working on FMV.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LilUQdhlm4g#t=1m17sQuote from: newmine on May 18, 2015, 07:43:08 amPTS needed an upgrade last March and I was shit on for saying it.PTS got airdropped on (with BTS). That chain served its purpose. Any time spent by the devs working on anything but BTS related stuff is a conflict of interest / waste of time (PTS included). Anyone who thinks that any or all of the BTS/FMV/MUSIC/Moonstone devs should drop anything or everything that they are doing and spend any amount of time on crypto circa 2013 is _______________(1000BTS bounty to the best answer)__________.Quote from: newmine on May 18, 2015, 07:43:08 amFreetrade secretly gave himself a boatload of MMC in the genesis block that he admitted to after I pressured him and ABL jumped in.Who is Freetrade (and why would a parent name their kid such a stupid name)(I bet he got beat up in school)?Quote from: newmine on May 18, 2015, 07:43:08 amCharles Evans was a little too close to the project given he was auditing AGS funds. He left ~5 days after pointing this out.Forgive me, but I don't know what you are talking about. Who is Charles Evans, and exactly how much money did he steal from who? Theft is a serious issue, and we should definitely get to the bottom of this.Quote from: newmine on May 18, 2015, 07:43:08 amThese are some of the major points I believe I helped come to light.Maybe we could add one. I think that the point about BitShares being as centrally controllable big bro style as Ripple, and simultaneously (your choice) more free and controllable by the shareholders than bitcoin is a point that might be considered as "major" as why a father loves his son, or why 2013 Protoshares needs to exist today.Now don't get me wrong, but I'm as big a fan of nostalgia as the next guy, and I don't have many posts here, but I do love a good old catchy tune as much as anybody... but what year is it again?Oh, heck, you're right ! "can we take it to the bridge!"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmMogbcl5B8#t=4m10shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPqBZH-59tAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n62J9-WP1AAnd Stan, maybe you should be a little more like Barry Sanders's dad who dissed Barry at his Hall of Fame introduction:http://newsok.com/william-sanders-ignores-son-barry-in-hall-introduction/article/2861725William Sanders cracked up the crowd of about 25,000 at Fawcett Stadium by saying, with a straight face, "I want to say hello to the No. 1 running back who ever lived. He's not with us today. Mr. Jim Brown."Speaking of major points, Dan is not Steve Jobs nor is he Barry Sandershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjfoQVssBo
There are definitely delegate squatters. 3% and 100%ers. For crying out loud, some 100%ers are in the low 90% reliability range and one is in the 80% range. The goddamn network is less secure because of them.
Dan definitely passively threatened to abandon BTSX if the merger did not happen.
Dan definitely proposed delegate pay of +$2K a few days after he claimed I3 had plenty of funds.
Stan is a propaganda artist spreading more BS than I can even come up with in my wildest dreams.
Dan is not "like" a Steve Jobs and Bitshares is not like the next Apple.
VOTE has no "secret sauce" as I pointed out when FMV met with CALVO.
AK is only a drain on BTS funds and wealth as has been proven with his lack of presence and effect so far.
PTS needed an upgrade last March and I was shit on for saying it.
Freetrade secretly gave himself a boatload of MMC in the genesis block that he admitted to after I pressured him and ABL jumped in.
Charles Evans was a little too close to the project given he was auditing AGS funds. He left ~5 days after pointing this out.
These are some of the major points I believe I helped come to light.
Quote from: BitcoinJesus2.O on May 19, 2015, 11:28:20 amguess what... life changes...some cry, others try.
guess what... life changes...some cry, others try.
...If you want to be helpful, you keep the criticism inside the family, not out in the open.
Quote from: newmine on May 18, 2015, 07:43:08 amDan is not "like" a Steve Jobs and Bitshares is not like the next Apple.You have lots of other good facts in that post newmine, but Bytemaster is without a doubt hugely talented and knowledgeable in both tech and economics. If anyone can develop a blockchain into a success, its him.
Quote from: gamey on May 17, 2015, 12:07:09 amQuote from: newmine on May 16, 2015, 10:14:04 pmQuote from: gamey on May 16, 2015, 09:38:10 pmQuote from: newmine on May 16, 2015, 08:56:39 pmQuote from: Akado on May 16, 2015, 04:21:25 pmQuote from: Ggozzo on May 16, 2015, 03:35:48 pmI am out too. Not for the same reason as lazr or Tony, but because I was put in a position I couldn't get out of and lost near half my BTS. Had I been able to get out when I originally wanted to, I would have only lost 8-10%. But because of the rule were you can't use the posted collateral to exit the position and instead have to possess or purchase excess BTS than what you used to short/CREATE a bitAsset, I lost near 50%. I learned my lesson the hard way. Back to bitcoin.The rule can be bad, not saying it isn't since that's not my point. My point is that you didn't inform yourself before taking that position. You didn't know the rule. So, instead of blaming the rule itself, maybe inform yourself better next time.aaaaannnnnd you wonder why the project can't gain any users and is only losing them. I had no idea that you could not use the collateral to close out a position until he(Ggozzo/skyscraperfarms) pointed it out a month or so ago. Can you direct to me to the place in the client where it's states this? Or how about direct me to a post by the dev's (un-edited) that states "you should allow enough BTS to remain in your wallet that can cover your entire short position beyond the 2x collateral"? In essence a bitAsset then needs 4x the collateral, it just 1x needs to stay in your wallet. Sheesh.It's too bad you guys continue to alienate users. He was "all in" on your shit, tries to close out a position, is stuck and gets a big FU in the form of multiple people saying he "should of informed himself more" or he didn't "do his due diligence". Wtf, that guy probably lost beans compared to what some of you worthless good for nothing delegates are "earning" and you have the gall to tell him he should've known better. I guess it must be nice not earning your BTS and being able to laugh off your losses.Your misconstruing is humorous. What is even more amusing is how you try so hard to suggest the delegates are being overpaid in some manner. The nonsense will never stop.What am I interpreting wrong? Here is his post last month, where the same shit happened: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15561.0.html Did you see PC's comment?As for the delegate pay comment, I was referring to some of the 100%'ers who aren't doing anything and just sitting on the BTS bankroll, namely every marketing delegate, dacx, the bitscape ones and probably a few devs (that many Devs working fultime should've been able to put out a solid client by now, which tells me a lot of those guys aren't doing shit but maybe an hour a week if that).Would you like me to leave, since I don't conform to your paradigm of positive outlook through delusional confidence?You've made numerous observations which are barely consistent. You take every chance you can to twist something into being more negative than it is.I am not one partaking in any positive outlook through delusion confidence. Read or reread my posts from the last few months. This is but another example of more of the same from you. chuckle @ your definition of "my paradigm".Do what you wish. I find you borderline humorous until the BS gets too thick.Truths generally hurt those who have the most to lose when the lies become known. I am guessing you have a large stake that you are now willing to let vest or die. It would be nice if I had expendable funds like that.Call my bullshit with links to my posts and refute them instead of ad hominem attacks about the delivery of what I say.There are definitely delegate squatters. 3% and 100%ers. For crying out loud, some 100%ers are in the low 90% reliability range and one is in the 80% range. Why other than Koolaid are they still given the potential? The goddamn network is less secure because of them.Dan definitely passively threatened to abandon BTSX if the merger did not happen.Dan definitely proposed delegate pay of +$2K a few days after he claimed I3 had plenty of funds.Stan is a propaganda artist spreading more BS than I can even come up with in my wildest dreams.Dan is not "like" a Steve Jobs and Bitshares is not like the next Apple.VOTE has no "secret sauce" as I pointed out when FMV met with CALVO.AK is only a drain on BTS funds and wealth as has been proven with his lack of presence and effect so far.PTS needed an upgrade last March and I was shit on for saying it.Freetrade secretly gave himself a boatload of MMC in the genesis block that he admitted to after I pressured him and ABL jumped in.Charles Evans was a little too close to the project given he was auditing AGS funds. He left ~5 days after pointing this out.These are some of the major points I believe I helped come to light.If these things are not consistent or are lies please let me know where I have fouled up.I have definitely noticed your turn in opinions towards the project though.
Quote from: newmine on May 16, 2015, 10:14:04 pmQuote from: gamey on May 16, 2015, 09:38:10 pmQuote from: newmine on May 16, 2015, 08:56:39 pmQuote from: Akado on May 16, 2015, 04:21:25 pmQuote from: Ggozzo on May 16, 2015, 03:35:48 pmI am out too. Not for the same reason as lazr or Tony, but because I was put in a position I couldn't get out of and lost near half my BTS. Had I been able to get out when I originally wanted to, I would have only lost 8-10%. But because of the rule were you can't use the posted collateral to exit the position and instead have to possess or purchase excess BTS than what you used to short/CREATE a bitAsset, I lost near 50%. I learned my lesson the hard way. Back to bitcoin.The rule can be bad, not saying it isn't since that's not my point. My point is that you didn't inform yourself before taking that position. You didn't know the rule. So, instead of blaming the rule itself, maybe inform yourself better next time.aaaaannnnnd you wonder why the project can't gain any users and is only losing them. I had no idea that you could not use the collateral to close out a position until he(Ggozzo/skyscraperfarms) pointed it out a month or so ago. Can you direct to me to the place in the client where it's states this? Or how about direct me to a post by the dev's (un-edited) that states "you should allow enough BTS to remain in your wallet that can cover your entire short position beyond the 2x collateral"? In essence a bitAsset then needs 4x the collateral, it just 1x needs to stay in your wallet. Sheesh.It's too bad you guys continue to alienate users. He was "all in" on your shit, tries to close out a position, is stuck and gets a big FU in the form of multiple people saying he "should of informed himself more" or he didn't "do his due diligence". Wtf, that guy probably lost beans compared to what some of you worthless good for nothing delegates are "earning" and you have the gall to tell him he should've known better. I guess it must be nice not earning your BTS and being able to laugh off your losses.Your misconstruing is humorous. What is even more amusing is how you try so hard to suggest the delegates are being overpaid in some manner. The nonsense will never stop.What am I interpreting wrong? Here is his post last month, where the same shit happened: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15561.0.html Did you see PC's comment?As for the delegate pay comment, I was referring to some of the 100%'ers who aren't doing anything and just sitting on the BTS bankroll, namely every marketing delegate, dacx, the bitscape ones and probably a few devs (that many Devs working fultime should've been able to put out a solid client by now, which tells me a lot of those guys aren't doing shit but maybe an hour a week if that).Would you like me to leave, since I don't conform to your paradigm of positive outlook through delusional confidence?You've made numerous observations which are barely consistent. You take every chance you can to twist something into being more negative than it is.I am not one partaking in any positive outlook through delusion confidence. Read or reread my posts from the last few months. This is but another example of more of the same from you. chuckle @ your definition of "my paradigm".Do what you wish. I find you borderline humorous until the BS gets too thick.
Quote from: gamey on May 16, 2015, 09:38:10 pmQuote from: newmine on May 16, 2015, 08:56:39 pmQuote from: Akado on May 16, 2015, 04:21:25 pmQuote from: Ggozzo on May 16, 2015, 03:35:48 pmI am out too. Not for the same reason as lazr or Tony, but because I was put in a position I couldn't get out of and lost near half my BTS. Had I been able to get out when I originally wanted to, I would have only lost 8-10%. But because of the rule were you can't use the posted collateral to exit the position and instead have to possess or purchase excess BTS than what you used to short/CREATE a bitAsset, I lost near 50%. I learned my lesson the hard way. Back to bitcoin.The rule can be bad, not saying it isn't since that's not my point. My point is that you didn't inform yourself before taking that position. You didn't know the rule. So, instead of blaming the rule itself, maybe inform yourself better next time.aaaaannnnnd you wonder why the project can't gain any users and is only losing them. I had no idea that you could not use the collateral to close out a position until he(Ggozzo/skyscraperfarms) pointed it out a month or so ago. Can you direct to me to the place in the client where it's states this? Or how about direct me to a post by the dev's (un-edited) that states "you should allow enough BTS to remain in your wallet that can cover your entire short position beyond the 2x collateral"? In essence a bitAsset then needs 4x the collateral, it just 1x needs to stay in your wallet. Sheesh.It's too bad you guys continue to alienate users. He was "all in" on your shit, tries to close out a position, is stuck and gets a big FU in the form of multiple people saying he "should of informed himself more" or he didn't "do his due diligence". Wtf, that guy probably lost beans compared to what some of you worthless good for nothing delegates are "earning" and you have the gall to tell him he should've known better. I guess it must be nice not earning your BTS and being able to laugh off your losses.Your misconstruing is humorous. What is even more amusing is how you try so hard to suggest the delegates are being overpaid in some manner. The nonsense will never stop.What am I interpreting wrong? Here is his post last month, where the same shit happened: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15561.0.html Did you see PC's comment?As for the delegate pay comment, I was referring to some of the 100%'ers who aren't doing anything and just sitting on the BTS bankroll, namely every marketing delegate, dacx, the bitscape ones and probably a few devs (that many Devs working fultime should've been able to put out a solid client by now, which tells me a lot of those guys aren't doing shit but maybe an hour a week if that).Would you like me to leave, since I don't conform to your paradigm of positive outlook through delusional confidence?
Quote from: newmine on May 16, 2015, 08:56:39 pmQuote from: Akado on May 16, 2015, 04:21:25 pmQuote from: Ggozzo on May 16, 2015, 03:35:48 pmI am out too. Not for the same reason as lazr or Tony, but because I was put in a position I couldn't get out of and lost near half my BTS. Had I been able to get out when I originally wanted to, I would have only lost 8-10%. But because of the rule were you can't use the posted collateral to exit the position and instead have to possess or purchase excess BTS than what you used to short/CREATE a bitAsset, I lost near 50%. I learned my lesson the hard way. Back to bitcoin.The rule can be bad, not saying it isn't since that's not my point. My point is that you didn't inform yourself before taking that position. You didn't know the rule. So, instead of blaming the rule itself, maybe inform yourself better next time.aaaaannnnnd you wonder why the project can't gain any users and is only losing them. I had no idea that you could not use the collateral to close out a position until he(Ggozzo/skyscraperfarms) pointed it out a month or so ago. Can you direct to me to the place in the client where it's states this? Or how about direct me to a post by the dev's (un-edited) that states "you should allow enough BTS to remain in your wallet that can cover your entire short position beyond the 2x collateral"? In essence a bitAsset then needs 4x the collateral, it just 1x needs to stay in your wallet. Sheesh.It's too bad you guys continue to alienate users. He was "all in" on your shit, tries to close out a position, is stuck and gets a big FU in the form of multiple people saying he "should of informed himself more" or he didn't "do his due diligence". Wtf, that guy probably lost beans compared to what some of you worthless good for nothing delegates are "earning" and you have the gall to tell him he should've known better. I guess it must be nice not earning your BTS and being able to laugh off your losses.Your misconstruing is humorous. What is even more amusing is how you try so hard to suggest the delegates are being overpaid in some manner. The nonsense will never stop.
Quote from: Akado on May 16, 2015, 04:21:25 pmQuote from: Ggozzo on May 16, 2015, 03:35:48 pmI am out too. Not for the same reason as lazr or Tony, but because I was put in a position I couldn't get out of and lost near half my BTS. Had I been able to get out when I originally wanted to, I would have only lost 8-10%. But because of the rule were you can't use the posted collateral to exit the position and instead have to possess or purchase excess BTS than what you used to short/CREATE a bitAsset, I lost near 50%. I learned my lesson the hard way. Back to bitcoin.The rule can be bad, not saying it isn't since that's not my point. My point is that you didn't inform yourself before taking that position. You didn't know the rule. So, instead of blaming the rule itself, maybe inform yourself better next time.aaaaannnnnd you wonder why the project can't gain any users and is only losing them. I had no idea that you could not use the collateral to close out a position until he(Ggozzo/skyscraperfarms) pointed it out a month or so ago. Can you direct to me to the place in the client where it's states this? Or how about direct me to a post by the dev's (un-edited) that states "you should allow enough BTS to remain in your wallet that can cover your entire short position beyond the 2x collateral"? In essence a bitAsset then needs 4x the collateral, it just 1x needs to stay in your wallet. Sheesh.It's too bad you guys continue to alienate users. He was "all in" on your shit, tries to close out a position, is stuck and gets a big FU in the form of multiple people saying he "should of informed himself more" or he didn't "do his due diligence". Wtf, that guy probably lost beans compared to what some of you worthless good for nothing delegates are "earning" and you have the gall to tell him he should've known better. I guess it must be nice not earning your BTS and being able to laugh off your losses.
Quote from: Ggozzo on May 16, 2015, 03:35:48 pmI am out too. Not for the same reason as lazr or Tony, but because I was put in a position I couldn't get out of and lost near half my BTS. Had I been able to get out when I originally wanted to, I would have only lost 8-10%. But because of the rule were you can't use the posted collateral to exit the position and instead have to possess or purchase excess BTS than what you used to short/CREATE a bitAsset, I lost near 50%. I learned my lesson the hard way. Back to bitcoin.The rule can be bad, not saying it isn't since that's not my point. My point is that you didn't inform yourself before taking that position. You didn't know the rule. So, instead of blaming the rule itself, maybe inform yourself better next time.
I am out too. Not for the same reason as lazr or Tony, but because I was put in a position I couldn't get out of and lost near half my BTS. Had I been able to get out when I originally wanted to, I would have only lost 8-10%. But because of the rule were you can't use the posted collateral to exit the position and instead have to possess or purchase excess BTS than what you used to short/CREATE a bitAsset, I lost near 50%. I learned my lesson the hard way. Back to bitcoin.
The state of cryptocurrency is a complete failure at the moment:-Mining is wasting billions, requiring everyone to speculate that "network effect" will always bailout an unprofitable company.-The freedom of trustless currency is lost by having to trust (and take orders from) centralized exchanges.-To break free of banks, users are forced to accept volatility, which is not suitable for everyone.Only BitShares solves these problems. To leave now is almost like giving up hope on sorting these problems out. Are you really going to give up and go back to a dumb token with 10-30 minute block confirmations again?Everyone have patience & stick around. Support freedom and grow some balls.
QuoteAs for the delegate pay comment, I was referring to some of the 100%'ers who aren't doing anything and just sitting on the BTS bankroll, namely every marketing delegate, dacx, the bitscape ones and probably a few devs (that many Devs working fultime should've been able to put out a solid client by now, which tells me a lot of those guys aren't doing shit but maybe an hour a week if that).I don't know what motivates NewMine, but I'm not seeing his specific complaints being refuted in this thread. The fact that Ken is trying to raise interest in some type of delegate reporting/accountability system, and BM intends to revamp delegate roles in code, suggests there's an underlying issue.Something that sticks in my mind, is that BM recently suggested in a Hangout that share-holders are 'tightwads' for not voting in more marketing delegates. Yet, Methodx says that marketing funds for his delegate were redirected to non-marketing purposes. How is anyone supposed to make an informed vote in this scenario? At the moment, it's not even possible to gauge the contribution of core-devs, since they're working in a secret, so we cannot view their commit history.Bitassets and Dpos are great, but the delegate system sets up huge information asymetries that make it very difficult to channel resources effectively.
As for the delegate pay comment, I was referring to some of the 100%'ers who aren't doing anything and just sitting on the BTS bankroll, namely every marketing delegate, dacx, the bitscape ones and probably a few devs (that many Devs working fultime should've been able to put out a solid client by now, which tells me a lot of those guys aren't doing shit but maybe an hour a week if that).
Quote from: newmine on May 16, 2015, 10:14:04 pmWould you like me to leave, since I don't conform to your paradigm of positive outlook through delusional confidence?Nope. You are a watchman who helps preserve the balance.
Would you like me to leave, since I don't conform to your paradigm of positive outlook through delusional confidence?
What am I interpreting wrong? Here is his post last month, where the same shit happened: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15561.0.html Did you see PC's comment?As for the delegate pay comment, I was referring to some of the 100%'ers who aren't doing anything and just sitting on the BTS bankroll, namely every marketing delegate, dacx, the bitscape ones and probably a few devs (that many Devs working fultime should've been able to put out a solid client by now, which tells me a lot of those guys aren't doing shit but maybe an hour a week if that).Would you like me to leave, since I don't conform to your paradigm of positive outlook through delusional confidence?
aaaaannnnnd you wonder why the project can't gain any users and is only losing them. I had no idea that you could not use the collateral to close out a position until he(Ggozzo/skyscraperfarms) pointed it out a month or so ago. Can you direct to me to the place in the client where it's states this? Or how about direct me to a post by the dev's (un-edited) that states "you should allow enough BTS to remain in your wallet that can cover your entire short position beyond the 2x collateral"? In essence a bitAsset then needs 4x the collateral, it just 1x needs to stay in your wallet. Sheesh.It's too bad you guys continue to alienate users. He was "all in" on your shit, tries to close out a position, is stuck and gets a big FU in the form of multiple people saying he "should of informed himself more" or he didn't "do his due diligence". Wtf, that guy probably lost beans compared to what some of you worthless good for nothing delegates are "earning" and you have the gall to tell him he should've known better. I guess it must be nice not earning your BTS and being able to laugh off your losses.
Quote from: betax on May 16, 2015, 09:42:16 amQuote from: jakub on May 16, 2015, 09:22:24 amI know for sure that it's not so nice to be on the receiving end of tonyk's "skills".But I can see now that arguing with him was a very valuable experience for me and I learned a great deal about myself in the process - how easy it is for me to become blinded by the feeling of self-righteousness.Even if they annoy us, people like tonyk and Izr1900 are essential here to keep us focused and to keep our egos under control.Even if they are on the wrong side of the argument their presence forces us to pause, rethink and revise our arguments, which is always a good thing. Ill have to say that most of the times they are right, and allow us to see through the fanboy (girl) goggles we have all the time, or put in public our biggest fears. Most important they are the biggest fans, if not they won't be here. I hope they come back soon, or if not some of us will need to replace them this
Quote from: jakub on May 16, 2015, 09:22:24 amI know for sure that it's not so nice to be on the receiving end of tonyk's "skills".But I can see now that arguing with him was a very valuable experience for me and I learned a great deal about myself in the process - how easy it is for me to become blinded by the feeling of self-righteousness.Even if they annoy us, people like tonyk and Izr1900 are essential here to keep us focused and to keep our egos under control.Even if they are on the wrong side of the argument their presence forces us to pause, rethink and revise our arguments, which is always a good thing. Ill have to say that most of the times they are right, and allow us to see through the fanboy (girl) goggles we have all the time, or put in public our biggest fears. Most important they are the biggest fans, if not they won't be here. I hope they come back soon, or if not some of us will need to replace them
I know for sure that it's not so nice to be on the receiving end of tonyk's "skills".But I can see now that arguing with him was a very valuable experience for me and I learned a great deal about myself in the process - how easy it is for me to become blinded by the feeling of self-righteousness.Even if they annoy us, people like tonyk and Izr1900 are essential here to keep us focused and to keep our egos under control.Even if they are on the wrong side of the argument their presence forces us to pause, rethink and revise our arguments, which is always a good thing.
Quote from: Ben Mason on May 15, 2015, 02:15:09 pmQuote from: zerosum on May 14, 2015, 05:42:49 pmQuote from: speedy on May 14, 2015, 03:49:03 pmQuote from: lzr1900 on May 14, 2015, 12:09:29 pmI have no right to say something negative?MY negative posts were totally wrong? I dont know.This is actually a very welcoming place for constructive criticism.Very true... if you mean criticizing the critics .... or endless for nonsensical statement.Anyway I think I will do everyone a favour by guesting my account as well...bye...tonyk2 I really hope you come back. We can all be a bit short with one and other from time to time. Half the time I cannot even comprehend your critique but it's obvious that those much smarter than me have valued it. You are an extremely valuable member of this community.100% right!!!But who is talking about tonyk2 is leaving? I am totally lost now!
Quote from: zerosum on May 14, 2015, 05:42:49 pmQuote from: speedy on May 14, 2015, 03:49:03 pmQuote from: lzr1900 on May 14, 2015, 12:09:29 pmI have no right to say something negative?MY negative posts were totally wrong? I dont know.This is actually a very welcoming place for constructive criticism.Very true... if you mean criticizing the critics .... or endless for nonsensical statement.Anyway I think I will do everyone a favour by guesting my account as well...bye...tonyk2 I really hope you come back. We can all be a bit short with one and other from time to time. Half the time I cannot even comprehend your critique but it's obvious that those much smarter than me have valued it. You are an extremely valuable member of this community.
Quote from: speedy on May 14, 2015, 03:49:03 pmQuote from: lzr1900 on May 14, 2015, 12:09:29 pmI have no right to say something negative?MY negative posts were totally wrong? I dont know.This is actually a very welcoming place for constructive criticism.Very true... if you mean criticizing the critics .... or endless for nonsensical statement.Anyway I think I will do everyone a favour by guesting my account as well...bye...
Quote from: lzr1900 on May 14, 2015, 12:09:29 pmI have no right to say something negative?MY negative posts were totally wrong? I dont know.This is actually a very welcoming place for constructive criticism.
I have no right to say something negative?MY negative posts were totally wrong? I dont know.
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MY negative posts were totally wrong?
Someone in this fourm hate me very much.because i am very fustrated,maybe i hurt them?I dont know.I have no right to say something negative?MY negative posts were totally wrong? I dont know.So,i think is better for me to leave.I will never come back again.will delete my account.both invest in BTS and visit bitsharestalk.byebye,good luck !!