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Supernet to me seems a scheme to boost the value of all cryptos that jl777 holds.
Quote from: tonyk on September 11, 2014, 06:30:41 pmQuote from: Graffenwalder on September 11, 2014, 06:26:02 pmQuote from: gamey on September 11, 2014, 06:24:43 pmICO = ? (I'd google it, but the acronym has 50+ meanings)Initial crowdfunding offering, same as IPOThere is a term and acronym for this already...Initial crowdfunding offering = ICO ... and 'crowdfunding' is a word now, also...Sorry it's initial crowd offering. This term is used a lot in equity crowdfunding.
Quote from: Graffenwalder on September 11, 2014, 06:26:02 pmQuote from: gamey on September 11, 2014, 06:24:43 pmICO = ? (I'd google it, but the acronym has 50+ meanings)Initial crowdfunding offering, same as IPOThere is a term and acronym for this already...Initial crowdfunding offering = ICO ... and 'crowdfunding' is a word now, also...
Quote from: gamey on September 11, 2014, 06:24:43 pmICO = ? (I'd google it, but the acronym has 50+ meanings)Initial crowdfunding offering, same as IPO
ICO = ? (I'd google it, but the acronym has 50+ meanings)
The interesting thing is I sit back and examine my own cognitive biases, being a Bitshares fanboy etc. Am I lacking in objectivity? Is this really as crazy as it seems ? I really trust your analyses TonyK, which are just as harsh on Bitshares products as anything else... but still.. I'm just like uhhhh what. This must be why NXT price has started to grow significantly again. Either that or maybe it is rebounding after sell off to diversify into Ether or BTSX ?
BitShares hasn't done any pumping. That requires selling on the news, which they've assured they don't do. The more you interact with the BitShares people, the greater your trust and respect will become. They could have cashed out long ago and bought a tropical island, but instead they're in this to change the economic system and improve peoples' lives. I'm also not convinced that the Super network guy is a pumper. He could have walked away with millions already. Perhaps he wants billions first and will dump at that point. But I think there's a legitimate chance he may be trying to create something better, too. I just don't think his network is going to change that much. We can watch how people use it and then judge. If this network is allowing coins to combine their best features, then hasn't that already been done? It's called cloning. One developer comes up with a cool new feature and it's open source. A month later, other coins that want it have implemented it, too. Aside from sharing scale, what does this network allow coins to do that they cannot already do?
Well, guys, BTSX does its own good share of pumping with the IPO funds per Dan's words, doesn't it? Now it's NXT's turn, why can't NXT do the same?
Quote from: gamey on September 11, 2014, 07:43:20 amThe interesting thing is I sit back and examine my own cognitive biases, being a Bitshares fanboy etc. Am I lacking in objectivity? Is this really as crazy as it seems ? I really trust your analyses TonyK, which are just as harsh on Bitshares products as anything else... but still.. I'm just like uhhhh what. This must be why NXT price has started to grow significantly again. Either that or maybe it is rebounding after sell off to diversify into Ether or BTSX ?Yes, I think your nailed it there!It is actually pretty easy thing to do, if you follow the main principals:- direct you criticism towards ideas, not people;- trust your guts, more than your brain;- be prepared to ridicule yourself, and do it harsher than any of your opponents, whenever you find flows in your logic/reasoning.It does help if you have the IQ score of Albert Einstein (165), as you probably do gamey. Speaking of IQ scores what is your best guess about BM's IQ score? It should be hitting the 180 mark (best guess).PS As NXT goes, it would have been the best crypto around if we hadn't got the lucky chance to have BM born.
Quote from: gamey on September 11, 2014, 06:43:05 amI know I am being lazy, but 50 pages of a thread is not something I care to read. I am deeply curious about such things as I try to keep an understanding on what is going on in the crypto-equity world. Is it really just another asset on NXT exchange ?In case you haven't seen it here is his whitepaper where he tries to summarize it lol... http://www.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/5/6/38564127/supernet.pdf
I know I am being lazy, but 50 pages of a thread is not something I care to read. I am deeply curious about such things as I try to keep an understanding on what is going on in the crypto-equity world. Is it really just another asset on NXT exchange ?
All bs aside, is this really not a technical solution to some nonexistent problem ? I skimmed through it but when I saw hype and not technical talk, I just moved on.Is this really not a development project ? Is he just claiming there will be a "supernetwork" of coins of his choosing? What is the glue that adds value to this ?.... Is this what explains why NXT has started to rise again ?? Is it just another asset to replace NEM which is no longer issuing new NEMStakes ? If I am correct, NEMStakes drove NXT to highest market cap.I know I am being lazy, but 50 pages of a thread is not something I care to read. I am deeply curious about such things as I try to keep an understanding on what is going on in the crypto-equity world. Is it really just another asset on NXT exchange ?200 BTSX to anyone can succinctly explain what this he is selling without using an animal metaphor.
Quote from: tbkmcjl on September 11, 2014, 04:35:46 amLet me guess.Some one pump several NXT-AE Assets.Because nearly all of the NXT-AE volume is too low (even the star product NEM),pumping would be easy.Some of the assets are even his.Before he pumps,he post a thread: xxx is gonna rise,watch me !I'm Buying!!!Then ....After ten assets...wow,everyone knows he is a a smart investor with great track record,9 wins,only 1lost.So,he go to his final game : I'm really good at investing ...You should give me your money to invest .It's a typical wall-street scam investment trick..... Just a crazy guess.I hear this. I won't publicly make an opinion because I still don't get what he is trying to do. Is it like cross-chain trading with all the involved altcoins? Is it more like a distributed exchange ? I guess I could read jl777's posts in that thread and maybe discern what exactly he is doing. I skimmed the whole thing and just really don't get it. The thing about supporting all these coins means that you are dependent on the coind's of all the participants. This is where your problem occurs. This can't be done in a decentralized manner. So what is he proposing ??!?
Let me guess.Some one pump several NXT-AE Assets.Because nearly all of the NXT-AE volume is too low (even the star product NEM),pumping would be easy.Some of the assets are even his.Before he pumps,he post a thread: xxx is gonna rise,watch me !I'm Buying!!!Then ....After ten assets...wow,everyone knows he is a a smart investor with great track record,9 wins,only 1lost.So,he go to his final game : I'm really good at investing ...You should give me your money to invest .It's a typical wall-street scam investment trick..... Just a crazy guess.
He believes-----rightHe truly believes--- rightHe Do believes----wrong.... he does believe
Quote from: tonyk on September 11, 2014, 04:44:00 amQuote from: tbkmcjl on September 11, 2014, 04:35:46 amLet me guess.Some one pump several NXT-AE Assets.Because nearly all of the NXT-AE volume is too low (even the star product NEM),pumping would be easy.Some of the assets are even his.Before he pumps,he post a thread: xxx is gonna rise,watch me !I'm Buying!!!Then ....After ten assets...wow,everyone knows he is a a smart investor with great track record,9 wins,only 1lost.So,he go to his final game : I'm really good at investing ...You should give me your money to invest . Just a crazy guess.Good explanation.He DOES believe, he is a great investor though... {English grammar question: is it 'he does believe' or 'he do believes' or something else, the correct way to write this in English?}he does,she does,it does,you do,I do.we do.they do.
Quote from: tbkmcjl on September 11, 2014, 04:35:46 amLet me guess.Some one pump several NXT-AE Assets.Because nearly all of the NXT-AE volume is too low (even the star product NEM),pumping would be easy.Some of the assets are even his.Before he pumps,he post a thread: xxx is gonna rise,watch me !I'm Buying!!!Then ....After ten assets...wow,everyone knows he is a a smart investor with great track record,9 wins,only 1lost.So,he go to his final game : I'm really good at investing ...You should give me your money to invest . Just a crazy guess.Good explanation.He DOES believe, he is a great investor though... {English grammar question: is it 'he does believe' or 'he do believes' or something else, the correct way to write this in English?}
Let me guess.Some one pump several NXT-AE Assets.Because nearly all of the NXT-AE volume is too low (even the star product NEM),pumping would be easy.Some of the assets are even his.Before he pumps,he post a thread: xxx is gonna rise,watch me !I'm Buying!!!Then ....After ten assets...wow,everyone knows he is a a smart investor with great track record,9 wins,only 1lost.So,he go to his final game : I'm really good at investing ...You should give me your money to invest . Just a crazy guess.
I looked into the SuperNet idea and the problem he is solving is getting the best tech of each coin and including in all other coins of the network. Think of it like a hedge fund of several altcoins. There are many other things to the project I don't completely understand. However, I'm very interested in seeing how this pans out.
So jl777 want to people give him thousands of BTC so he can manage them alone, and want to make money thanks to insider trading, Oh and yes... all of that it's in order to change the world and destroy the fiat system, of course.