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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: November 06, 2015, 01:13:59 pm »
If the following were told to me:
  • Crazy manipulation by (an organized gang of?) traders on Poloniex is leaching value from BitShares, hurting the whole project
  • There is a person or a body of people, trusted by the BitShares community, with the ability to fight back on Poloniex for the benefit BitShares
  • This trusted entity has a trading plan which has been 'audited' to the satisfaction of the community. (Analyzed behind closed doors by a select few if necessary)
  • The plan is risky and could backfire, but there is a good chance of success
  • The amount of BTS needed to operate the plan is great
  • The amount of BTS needed could be pooled by creating a User Issued Asset and selling it to BitShares supporters (or to people who want to speculate, anticipating a cut of any profit)
  • There are loads of people on bitsharestalk who have stated that they'd like to allocate a proportion of their BTS into buying this UIA

then I would say, "Oh, I'm definitely interested in buying a chunk of such a UIA, but I know nothing about trading and would like to see what others think of this idea on bitsharestalk".

That is all...

LOL.  Now there is an idea.   If being a whale was so profitable then I am sure you would see funds set up doing just this!   The fact that there are no funds like this out there tells me all I need to know about the effectiveness of being a whale and manipulating the price for profit.



There isn't enough money to be made for mainstream funds.  A couple hundred thousand dollars is small to them.  I am sure that if there were millions to be made...they would be here.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: October 07, 2015, 10:32:02 am »
Hypothetical question: If BTS loan rates were really high, say 0.2% - 0.5%, would shorts have to either renew at those loans after 2 days, or otherwise cover?

Would it result in margin call if they can't find BTS to renew the loan?

loans automatically renew at the lowest available rate.  I had a similar question a few weeks ago...what if someone used all of the available loan supply to place a sell order at a very high price?  Would this cause anyone who is short to be liquidated when they can't renew their loan?


From: Tristan D'Agosta <contact@poloniex.com>
Date: Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: Hypothetical Margin trading question
To: dave23

You would not be liquidated at all; the loan just wouldn't close until
another became available. I don't think this has ever happened for a
substantial period of time, because fewer loan offers means better
rates, which provides an incentive for more offers.



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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: October 02, 2015, 04:11:05 pm »
That might have worked if they had done it a few days ago.
Now its too late, shorts got to cover at a profit and longs got rekt.

it could.....shorters closing their position would boost the market so if it starts going up, it's a race to profit.


What's the status for Cagara at this point?


he got banned from Poloniex chat for announcing his next move on ETH. 

Poloniex is a bit two-faced on this, prohibiting any discussion, but implicitly allowing the actual P&Ds.

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