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We need assets that track the value of things that appreciate in price, only then will we get a market.Gold is hard money and over 60 years has only appreciated 1% above inflation, stocks have done the best.Warren Buffett says if your not going to investigate stocks to often buy an index fund that tracks the market.
Quote from: mirrax on May 26, 2015, 09:29:05 amI do not think we will see BTS under 2000 ever again.http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/7a3/204/122/resized/sterling-archer-meme-generator-do-you-want-to-jinx-it-because-thats-how-you-jinx-it-0585df.jpg
I do not think we will see BTS under 2000 ever again.
Veritaseum uses only bitcoin, and subsists completely on the bitcoin blockchain. It is the only bitcoin wallet system that can trade simple and complex value structures without using non-bitcoin tokens, alt coins, sidechains or alternative blockchains. It can trade the value of over 45,000 tickers in all asset classes, from major exchanges from all around the world. At it’s essence, Veritaseum is a hyper-intelligent Bitcoin wallet “system” that is able to create and interpret smart contracts through the blockchain. It coordinates with an Oracle to gain access to conventional, physical and legacy financial data and information and uses it to price, value, trade and settle OTC, P2P financial instruments - all in BTC.
The Veritaseum platform, using nothing but pure bitcoin with no tokens or alternative internal currencies, moves the value of all that he mentioned plus much more (over 45k tickers), with absolutely no counterparty risk on a fully autonomous basis using smart contracts based solely on bitcoin script
A member of our board of advisors, which we are just putting together, is the ex-chief investment office of one of the largest funds in the world — a few hundred billion dollars. He was a maverick in his space, is excited about the opportunity to literally shake up the world of finance, and is tasked with basically getting institutions to do trades. So, for every ten billion dollar institution that [trades on our platform], that’s the equivalent of an entire Bitfinex in one month’s worth of trades. That’s how we’re going to start, and then we have different verticals — we have that vertical, we have retail, and we have other, specialized verticals.”
Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on May 27, 2015, 05:49:55 pmQuote from: hughmanwho on May 27, 2015, 05:42:29 pmQuote from: DataSecurityNode on May 27, 2015, 02:57:14 pmQuote from: hughmanwho on May 27, 2015, 02:46:07 pmWhy are people talking about BitUSD having a premium value? Isn't the whole point that BitUSD is supposed to closely match USD? Therefore having any value above or below $1 is bad, right?Doesn't work that way. bitUSD at present is a premium that costs quite a bit more than $1.Doesn't look like it on BTER.. and in my opinion that makes bitusd less valuable if it's price is sundown different than USD.. while point is they are supposed to match.?First of all, most people don't really trust BTER anymore after the whole hacking situation. Second, external exchanges will always suffer liquidity-wise compared to the internal BTS exchange (where we want trading to happen). Third and most obvious, BitUSD 2.0 hasn't been released yet...What is BITUSD 2.0? How does it work?Yes, but still the point is that it's selling point is that it's value is supposed track USD.. right? So it doesn't make sense to pay more than $1.01 or so for it.
Quote from: hughmanwho on May 27, 2015, 05:42:29 pmQuote from: DataSecurityNode on May 27, 2015, 02:57:14 pmQuote from: hughmanwho on May 27, 2015, 02:46:07 pmWhy are people talking about BitUSD having a premium value? Isn't the whole point that BitUSD is supposed to closely match USD? Therefore having any value above or below $1 is bad, right?Doesn't work that way. bitUSD at present is a premium that costs quite a bit more than $1.Doesn't look like it on BTER.. and in my opinion that makes bitusd less valuable if it's price is sundown different than USD.. while point is they are supposed to match.?First of all, most people don't really trust BTER anymore after the whole hacking situation. Second, external exchanges will always suffer liquidity-wise compared to the internal BTS exchange (where we want trading to happen). Third and most obvious, BitUSD 2.0 hasn't been released yet...
Quote from: DataSecurityNode on May 27, 2015, 02:57:14 pmQuote from: hughmanwho on May 27, 2015, 02:46:07 pmWhy are people talking about BitUSD having a premium value? Isn't the whole point that BitUSD is supposed to closely match USD? Therefore having any value above or below $1 is bad, right?Doesn't work that way. bitUSD at present is a premium that costs quite a bit more than $1.Doesn't look like it on BTER.. and in my opinion that makes bitusd less valuable if it's price is sundown different than USD.. while point is they are supposed to match.
Quote from: hughmanwho on May 27, 2015, 02:46:07 pmWhy are people talking about BitUSD having a premium value? Isn't the whole point that BitUSD is supposed to closely match USD? Therefore having any value above or below $1 is bad, right?Doesn't work that way. bitUSD at present is a premium that costs quite a bit more than $1.
Why are people talking about BitUSD having a premium value? Isn't the whole point that BitUSD is supposed to closely match USD? Therefore having any value above or below $1 is bad, right?
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Quote from: sumantso on May 27, 2015, 12:20:04 pmQuote from: Ben Mason on May 26, 2015, 04:27:21 pmThe problem i can see with that point of view is that people not comprehending the value of bitusd over usd. So the issue is possibly one of education. What about BitUSD vs some other CryptoUSD?mmm guess we have to ask ourselves if there is enough perception of value to utilising the Bitshares network. If not, maybe a pegged cryptoUSD without a premium will out-compete bitUSD...but will their economics be sound? Will their network be appealing? Difficult to say on any of this. Difficult to say what consumers will value. The world is changing rapidly, what they value today may not be what they value tomorrow.
Quote from: Ben Mason on May 26, 2015, 04:27:21 pmThe problem i can see with that point of view is that people not comprehending the value of bitusd over usd. So the issue is possibly one of education. What about BitUSD vs some other CryptoUSD?
The problem i can see with that point of view is that people not comprehending the value of bitusd over usd. So the issue is possibly one of education.
In order to remain trustless you will always need to download the blockchain first before pruning. Bandwidth is not reduced just storage costs by pruning.I don't trust poc to claim to do what it says by allowing same level of trust and reduce bandwidth by such a factor.. I guess time will tell when hackers will have motivation to break it.
Quote from: hughmanwho on May 25, 2015, 07:12:41 pmAlso the POS makes it less trustworthy.. I definitely prefer POC over POS. (POC = Proof of Capacity)You have a point, and if you can convince me that POC has a more profitable business model than BitShares, then I will come join your community. So, here is your chance to catch Moby Me.... Give me the pitch!
Also the POS makes it less trustworthy.. I definitely prefer POC over POS. (POC = Proof of Capacity)
Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on May 26, 2015, 02:46:56 pmit's the same as bitcoin. Everyone pays a fee to buy bitcoin, so why would people want to buy bitcoin just to spend it (and lose some cash value in the process)? and if BitUSD is doomed because it takes a premium to purchase some with fiat then so is bitcoin (and every other crypto that requires a certain premium of time, money, and energy to purchase it from fiat. Therefore anybody here who is complaining about this aspect is either trying to spread FUD about BitShares, or they have sold all their bitcoins because they are doomed to fail because Coinbase charges a premium to purchase bitcoins, and this premium will be the downfall of bitcoin because "nobody will ever spend bitcoins because of this fact"So which logical explanation is it naysayers?Have you sold your bitcoins and crypto because they cost a slight value premium to purchase and you know that bitcoins (like BitUSD) are bound for failure because of this fact?Or are you purposefully trying to spread FUD about an identical characteristic that both BitUSD and bitcoin possess?Or I guess there is one other logical explanation.You have been enlightened to the fact that bitcoin has already proven that "requiring a premium to purchase a crypto" has not hurt its standing as number 1 crypto on the planet.Everybody here knows that a crypto costs a premium over fiat (especially the most widely used crypto in the world). In fact, we've embraced this fact and are already speculating if this premium will be in fact "more or less" than that which Coinbase charges for bitcoin.https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16527.0.html
it's the same as bitcoin. Everyone pays a fee to buy bitcoin, so why would people want to buy bitcoin just to spend it (and lose some cash value in the process)?
Quote from: Ben Mason on May 26, 2015, 10:29:42 amQuote from: sumantso on May 26, 2015, 10:27:23 amQuote from: mirrax on May 26, 2015, 09:29:05 amI do not think we will see BTS under 2000 ever again.We will if BM goes ahead with his current BitAssets 2.0 plan.You've probably answered this elsewhere sumantso, but would you mind explaining why you think this?sumantso's basic concern seems to be that liquidity will suffer under the proposed BitAsset 2.0 plan due to the BitUSD market being lopsided in favor of merchants with an endless BitUSD premium, making it costly for anyone to spend BitUSD over traditional fiat/credit card options. I share the same concern, and haven't really seen anything from BM to quell these fears...But when I think about it, it's kind of the same as bitcoin. Everyone pays a fee to buy bitcoin, so why would people want to buy bitcoin just to spend it (and lose some cash value in the process)? So people will be disinclined to spend BitUSD...kind of like they are now disinclined to spend bitcoin. But how can a currency work if people aren't incentivized to spend it? Also, many buy bitcoin as an investment...BitUSD isn't much of an investment if it's tied to an inflationary asset. So why do I want BitUSD that costs more than a dollar? Just thinking aloud here; I'm no economics expert...
Quote from: sumantso on May 26, 2015, 10:27:23 amQuote from: mirrax on May 26, 2015, 09:29:05 amI do not think we will see BTS under 2000 ever again.We will if BM goes ahead with his current BitAssets 2.0 plan.You've probably answered this elsewhere sumantso, but would you mind explaining why you think this?
Quote from: mirrax on May 26, 2015, 09:29:05 amI do not think we will see BTS under 2000 ever again.We will if BM goes ahead with his current BitAssets 2.0 plan.
Starspirit, I am not really concerned about merchants so much as payment processors. Most merchants will not be setting up their own node on the network to accept payment directly, instead they will go through a 3rd party. More importantly, most merchants will not *directly* accept crypto, instead they will accept USD through a service provider that hides all cryptos, including BitUSD from them. In the case of most non-stable crypto's, the payment processors simply hide the fee in the "exchange rate". So the person I am really catering to is the middle man. Early adopters of crypto use it because of properties other than price. Most "crypto-consumers" wouldn't mind paying a fee to buy something with crypto, after all they would be paying a fee to exit to fiat anyway. Traders don't care about anything other than "free market pricing" and "stable rules". For them a premium doesn't matter because it all comes out in the end. I reject the notion that we can establish a peg with 0 premium and 0 volatility in the premium and those seeking this perfection are seeking the impossible. Supply and Demand are constantly changing along with market perception of the valuation of BitShares. Lets take a "perfect" and "balanced" system of a simple prediction market that settles once per year at a "perfectly fair" price. In this prediction market both sides have the exact same liquidity and expectation of profit. Any deviations from the value of $1.00 is a profit opportunity for both parties. Under such a system what is the "volatility" of the premium? It is proportional to the holding cost until settlement combined with the demand for leverage on BTS. I would expect a range around $1.00 that could be off by over 10% at times. So even with guaranteed settlement at a fair price on a specific date in the future you do not get an asset that is always worth $1.00 with a stable premium. The best we can do is get an asset that is approximately worth $1.00 and the volatility in the premium is beyond our control. If the premium is persistently biased by a certain minimum amount then the market will end up adjusting prices to account for that bias. This "constant bias" can be relatively stable and can be removed by adjusting the feed.
Quote from: Ben Mason on May 26, 2015, 04:57:58 amQuote from: merivercap on May 25, 2015, 10:46:46 pmQuote from: hughmanwho on May 25, 2015, 10:02:13 pmQuote from: Ben Mason on May 25, 2015, 07:36:50 pmQuote from: hughmanwho on May 25, 2015, 07:12:41 pmThe one issue I have with BitShares is that it isn't really as decentralized.. every day people can't just connect to the network and directly mine.Also the POS makes it less trustworthy.. I definitely prefer POC over POS. (POC = Proof of Capacity)But.. I've always found Bitshares interesting. After this little mini-bubble dies down, which seems to be someone trying to pump the price, I may buy some.The good news is that your one thing might be the result of a misunderstanding, I should know, I have them a lot too. Bitshares is decentralized enough to remain corruption resistant, which is what we all need the most, yet able to scale and remain efficient. Bitshares is accessible to anyone at any wealth level because of bitassets. DPOS is so far, the leader in integrity....it's not perfect though, but the devs are innovating their way to perfect. Get in before they get there idk.. I'd call US Senate pretty corrupt and it's basically the same voting structure.DPOS gives people the ability to one day realize they can start voting to pay themselves money similar to how it always happens with democracy slowly being corrupted into communism. Vote for the delegates that promise them free money! Not as likely to happen in a POC system.Plus POS has a lot of issues with it.. history key attacks for example.. which DPOS makes much easier.I will acknowledge that DPOS helps the blockchain trimming problem that POS has though.I've thought about the whole communism thing, but most stakeholders will generally agree that this practice would be harmful to the blockchain and not approve. I like to compare DPOS to how companies operate, just like how the millions of companies that exist (corporations, llc, partnerships etc) do today. Shareholders control and delegate the operations and there is usually little fear of freeloading. Businesses and DPOS blockchains must be efficient to survive.I'm sure key history attacks are incredibly difficult to execute and there are preventative measures... It's always good to be aware of as many attack vectors as possible though.The senate is corrupt because it is not accountable. Delegates are accountable. The Bitshares ecosystem is built to incentivise efficiency as merivercap says. A delegate must perform the role he/she is voted into to perform. If they can do that whilst paying out their salary, great. They have access to a finite level of resource from the blockchain or value they create themselves. Bitshares will become an effective meritocracy.There is one thing I haven't seen discussed.. imagine BitShares really goes to the moon, interest by companies and institutions is spiked, and soon enough they realize they can run their own delegates as well... these guys have millions to pour in, in a week they could arguably out-vote all the previous delegates with their own.Maybe. Did I miss something in this picture?
Quote from: merivercap on May 25, 2015, 10:46:46 pmQuote from: hughmanwho on May 25, 2015, 10:02:13 pmQuote from: Ben Mason on May 25, 2015, 07:36:50 pmQuote from: hughmanwho on May 25, 2015, 07:12:41 pmThe one issue I have with BitShares is that it isn't really as decentralized.. every day people can't just connect to the network and directly mine.Also the POS makes it less trustworthy.. I definitely prefer POC over POS. (POC = Proof of Capacity)But.. I've always found Bitshares interesting. After this little mini-bubble dies down, which seems to be someone trying to pump the price, I may buy some.The good news is that your one thing might be the result of a misunderstanding, I should know, I have them a lot too. Bitshares is decentralized enough to remain corruption resistant, which is what we all need the most, yet able to scale and remain efficient. Bitshares is accessible to anyone at any wealth level because of bitassets. DPOS is so far, the leader in integrity....it's not perfect though, but the devs are innovating their way to perfect. Get in before they get there idk.. I'd call US Senate pretty corrupt and it's basically the same voting structure.DPOS gives people the ability to one day realize they can start voting to pay themselves money similar to how it always happens with democracy slowly being corrupted into communism. Vote for the delegates that promise them free money! Not as likely to happen in a POC system.Plus POS has a lot of issues with it.. history key attacks for example.. which DPOS makes much easier.I will acknowledge that DPOS helps the blockchain trimming problem that POS has though.I've thought about the whole communism thing, but most stakeholders will generally agree that this practice would be harmful to the blockchain and not approve. I like to compare DPOS to how companies operate, just like how the millions of companies that exist (corporations, llc, partnerships etc) do today. Shareholders control and delegate the operations and there is usually little fear of freeloading. Businesses and DPOS blockchains must be efficient to survive.I'm sure key history attacks are incredibly difficult to execute and there are preventative measures... It's always good to be aware of as many attack vectors as possible though.The senate is corrupt because it is not accountable. Delegates are accountable. The Bitshares ecosystem is built to incentivise efficiency as merivercap says. A delegate must perform the role he/she is voted into to perform. If they can do that whilst paying out their salary, great. They have access to a finite level of resource from the blockchain or value they create themselves. Bitshares will become an effective meritocracy.
Quote from: hughmanwho on May 25, 2015, 10:02:13 pmQuote from: Ben Mason on May 25, 2015, 07:36:50 pmQuote from: hughmanwho on May 25, 2015, 07:12:41 pmThe one issue I have with BitShares is that it isn't really as decentralized.. every day people can't just connect to the network and directly mine.Also the POS makes it less trustworthy.. I definitely prefer POC over POS. (POC = Proof of Capacity)But.. I've always found Bitshares interesting. After this little mini-bubble dies down, which seems to be someone trying to pump the price, I may buy some.The good news is that your one thing might be the result of a misunderstanding, I should know, I have them a lot too. Bitshares is decentralized enough to remain corruption resistant, which is what we all need the most, yet able to scale and remain efficient. Bitshares is accessible to anyone at any wealth level because of bitassets. DPOS is so far, the leader in integrity....it's not perfect though, but the devs are innovating their way to perfect. Get in before they get there idk.. I'd call US Senate pretty corrupt and it's basically the same voting structure.DPOS gives people the ability to one day realize they can start voting to pay themselves money similar to how it always happens with democracy slowly being corrupted into communism. Vote for the delegates that promise them free money! Not as likely to happen in a POC system.Plus POS has a lot of issues with it.. history key attacks for example.. which DPOS makes much easier.I will acknowledge that DPOS helps the blockchain trimming problem that POS has though.I've thought about the whole communism thing, but most stakeholders will generally agree that this practice would be harmful to the blockchain and not approve. I like to compare DPOS to how companies operate, just like how the millions of companies that exist (corporations, llc, partnerships etc) do today. Shareholders control and delegate the operations and there is usually little fear of freeloading. Businesses and DPOS blockchains must be efficient to survive.I'm sure key history attacks are incredibly difficult to execute and there are preventative measures... It's always good to be aware of as many attack vectors as possible though.
Quote from: Ben Mason on May 25, 2015, 07:36:50 pmQuote from: hughmanwho on May 25, 2015, 07:12:41 pmThe one issue I have with BitShares is that it isn't really as decentralized.. every day people can't just connect to the network and directly mine.Also the POS makes it less trustworthy.. I definitely prefer POC over POS. (POC = Proof of Capacity)But.. I've always found Bitshares interesting. After this little mini-bubble dies down, which seems to be someone trying to pump the price, I may buy some.The good news is that your one thing might be the result of a misunderstanding, I should know, I have them a lot too. Bitshares is decentralized enough to remain corruption resistant, which is what we all need the most, yet able to scale and remain efficient. Bitshares is accessible to anyone at any wealth level because of bitassets. DPOS is so far, the leader in integrity....it's not perfect though, but the devs are innovating their way to perfect. Get in before they get there idk.. I'd call US Senate pretty corrupt and it's basically the same voting structure.DPOS gives people the ability to one day realize they can start voting to pay themselves money similar to how it always happens with democracy slowly being corrupted into communism. Vote for the delegates that promise them free money! Not as likely to happen in a POC system.Plus POS has a lot of issues with it.. history key attacks for example.. which DPOS makes much easier.I will acknowledge that DPOS helps the blockchain trimming problem that POS has though.
Quote from: hughmanwho on May 25, 2015, 07:12:41 pmThe one issue I have with BitShares is that it isn't really as decentralized.. every day people can't just connect to the network and directly mine.Also the POS makes it less trustworthy.. I definitely prefer POC over POS. (POC = Proof of Capacity)But.. I've always found Bitshares interesting. After this little mini-bubble dies down, which seems to be someone trying to pump the price, I may buy some.The good news is that your one thing might be the result of a misunderstanding, I should know, I have them a lot too. Bitshares is decentralized enough to remain corruption resistant, which is what we all need the most, yet able to scale and remain efficient. Bitshares is accessible to anyone at any wealth level because of bitassets. DPOS is so far, the leader in integrity....it's not perfect though, but the devs are innovating their way to perfect. Get in before they get there
The one issue I have with BitShares is that it isn't really as decentralized.. every day people can't just connect to the network and directly mine.Also the POS makes it less trustworthy.. I definitely prefer POC over POS. (POC = Proof of Capacity)But.. I've always found Bitshares interesting. After this little mini-bubble dies down, which seems to be someone trying to pump the price, I may buy some.
Benefits of BitShares:Optional regulatory compliance.Access to fiat banking services requires this compliance. Until every aspect of the economy becomes compatible with crypto there will always be customers who want to move from crypto to fiat seamlessly. So long as these regulatory burdens are never allowed into the broader ecosystem and regulatory compliance remains optional then there shouldn't be a problem.The only other way I can think to access fiat is to use a system similar to localbitcoins and Abra. Motivate users to buy and sell bitAssets for cash in person. This method could only replace direct banking access if it was so popular that cash traders are available everywhere.OPTIONAL Identity verification will be useful for this.Bitcoin exchanges issuing UIA to attract bts users. Arbitrage of these UIAs will keep price feeds of bitAssets tight and will provide a crypto-fiat gateway.Development is funded by the blockchain and voted for by the shareholders.At least 101 distributed block producing witnessing nodes sufficiently (determined by shareholder vote) spread across the globe in numerous legal jurisdictions, continents, away from significant natural disaster threats and run by entities that have given evidence to suggest that they will not collude with bad actors and have systems in place to alert shareholders if attempts are made. Perhaps shareholders will encourage dead-mans-switch type systems to be implemented. Witnesses could be required to sign a message with the current blockchain hash every ____hrs and if they are asked to collude all they have to do is not sign a message. The shareholders are alerted and a new witness can be voted in. The fact that it is so easy to discover collusion attempts should deter any attempt from ever being made.Core development is funded by the blockchain and voted for by the shareholders.Workers are paid by contracts voted for by the shareholders.Delegates are elected officials that act as the human element of the DAC and provide oracle services to price feeds and multisig worker budgets.Blockchain Human Resources. Accountability for workers employed by the shareholders increases DAC efficiency.Marketers profit from referrals.All aspects of the DAC are subject to change by a shareholder vote. Hard forks by shareholder vote only.1 second transaction confirmations. (Dan hinted in a thread a few days ago)Fast scanning of and reconnection to the network (Dan hinted at seconds or minutes to reindex (?) the chain.). The amount of time a user or business owner has to spend connecting to and downloading a copy of the blockchain of choice is going to be a big selling point.Efficient full-nodes also benefit SPV and light client wallets. The easier full nodes are to run the more numerous and better connected bts lightweight client servers are going to be. 100% uptime is very desirable so the system that can get closest has a big advantage.A lot of the confidence I hold in BitShares is how it will run at scale after being convinced by several articles on Bytemaster's blog. Sufficient decentralization, block propagation speed, block sizes and handling transaction volume at scale are all aspects of BitShares that I think are better than the competition. No project has reached a large-scale yet and nobody truly knows for sure how separate block chains will handle it. From what I've read I think BitShares is the superior system already but if it is not then bts shareholders are better placed than any other project to make the changes and development necessary to adapt to problems as they arise. Look at Gavin's block size debate for examples of how shareholder voting on development could solve that problem much faster. Although perhaps not a direct comparison as bitcoin's #1 priority is security rather than adapting quickly.A large part of the ease of use is how easy it is to connect to the network and fast scanning of transactions. Efficient super-nodes will allow new participants in the network to reliably connect as quickly as possible. Can anybody convince me that another project can do this better?
That would make a great T-Shirt to show your friends to get them to join our community:BitShares is a "thing"
Quote from: Permie on May 21, 2015, 08:15:34 pmI trust the dev's that they've built what they say they have They've never let us down in the past, in fact, they've continuously exceeded expectations.Quote from: Permie on May 21, 2015, 08:15:34 pmI would like to see more transparency in the futureThe most recent changes in the code will allow and facilitate this (more "transparency in regards to changes" than in any other crypto in the world)Quote from: Permie on May 21, 2015, 08:15:34 pmat this stage too much transparency could give our competition a leg-up.Which is why we want the devs to continue adding features, then release them all at the same time, and to great fanfare. Then all the copying of Dan's ideas, and reverse engineering can occur like what happened last time Dan launched "DPOS," and a "stable-coin" First we saw the attack of the bitcoin clones, now we are seeing "attack of the BitShares clones"Quote from: Permie on May 21, 2015, 08:15:34 pmThe tools we need to grow our DAC are not yet released but they are coming.In the meantime, we have the lowest BitShares prices in the history of the world happening like 1 month before the release of 1.O (BitShares 1.O is not some minimally functional DOS version of our crypto platform)
I trust the dev's that they've built what they say they have
I would like to see more transparency in the future
at this stage too much transparency could give our competition a leg-up.
The tools we need to grow our DAC are not yet released but they are coming.
I will ask the same guy(s) that convince you that promises made = result delivered...if no luck there, ask the guy that told you that "block propagation speed" (repeated twice in your post) is one of the leading Bitshares features.... (My guess is it was your own mind, but not sure).
This is a great post and hits on so many points.I would say that success depends on more than just having the best technology, it depends upon having the best community and being easiest to use. I think we are growing as a community and working on our weak spots.
Quote from: Permie on May 21, 2015, 07:16:44 pmCan anybody convince me that another project can do this better?I will ask the same guy(s) that convince you that promises made = result delivered...if no luck there, ask the guy that told you that "block propagation speed" (repeated twice in your post) is one of the leading Bitshares features.... (My guess is it was your own mind, but not sure).
Can anybody convince me that another project can do this better?
Quote from: Ander on May 21, 2015, 07:45:17 pmDash (aka Darkcoin) had a big rise to the #4 spot based on their 'instant transactions', but we are just as fast. Satoshi-based crypto feels sooo 1990 ..
Dash (aka Darkcoin) had a big rise to the #4 spot based on their 'instant transactions', but we are just as fast.