It is a interesting idea for sure and I love that they are trying to bring the 2.0 crowd together but I wonder about the development of the product also. Mumble would be good I would like to hear more.

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Quote from: testz on January 08, 2015, 09:39:04 pm

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/amagi-metals-pay-entire-staff-bitcoin

I bought a few silver coins from them, quite a while ago now, using bitcoin. But it was a Bitpay transaction and I don't think that they were keeping any of the bitcoin back then. They were just using BitPay to convert to fiat immediately. But now, with them paying staff in bitcoin, I guess they are no longer converting all crypto sales to fiat immediately anymore.

I don't think that we should approach them until 1.0 release, but I think they are an extremely likely prospect to start using bitSILVER, bitGOLD and bitUSD. It would be a big win for them over bitcoin, which they are already accepting and keeping.

  Interesting

I think we should approach guys like this as soon as possible to start a conversation, to discuss it and get feedback but again I'd prefer if we had a delegate who fulfilled this role & was skilled in making contacts and building relationships vs. just us randomly contacting.

Contact made, these guys are a great fit for accepting Market pegged assets.

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As someone that is sitting in with max on meetings with business partners I have nothing but good things to say about him.

We actually recently had a discussion on how you quantify results of these meetings and how to show the community their value. Obviously you can't sit in on the meetings and it wouldn't make sense to give anyone person the credit for getting a partner company to sign on.

No matter what metrics you use, here is what I personally have seen:

Great speaking ability
Informed about the product
Very solid work on http://bitshares.tv/
Great work done on Press kit
The book http://www.amazon.com/BitShares-101-Generation-Currencies-Decentralized-ebook/dp/B00QUIWHR0


Honestly I can't imagine working a community based marketing effort without him. He is one one those figures that acts as a social glue bringing devs,marketers and talkers like myself together helping us form one great simply message and then conveying that message to partners that will in turn help Bitshares become a standout among 2.0 technologies.

All that being said I can't wait to hear about his incentives and how many delegates he is asking for.

Me - There is fashion to be chief scientist now. In fact i'am not. I think more in business terms so i am responsible for architecting all this stuff.
Kostya Lomashuk - responsible for pushing everything forward.
Vitalik Lvov - responsible for investment operation of cyber•Fund and providing expertise to cyber•Shares community.
Dima Sadovnichiy - responsible for development. Contracts development in future.
Max Uvarov - leading digital marketing expert in Russia. Didn't commit full-time to project yet, but his advices are valuable for us.
Marina Guryeva and Vova Savin are early investors who believe in us from the very begin. Initially Vova was responsible for mining (hardware), but now we don't believe in mining as it exist today, so he think about engaging in some future hardware engineering. 
Early Believers  - FFF (friends, family, fools). Small group. So we already pass this stage.
Category of founders is a way to to honour people who make this all happens. This category exist and doesn't mean nor work, nor responsibility.

Ok so who is going to develop the wallet and all these cool features you are talking about?

"The project raised over 4 million throughout its history and I was able to get Koblitz and Merkle to join ethereum prior to even a fraction of that funding. I think that good projects are able to attract great minds if the ideas are accessible and there is an emphasis placed upon collaboration. Vitalik established a wonderfully collaborative environment for people to join Ethereum, do you feel the same has been done for the developers behind bitshares?"

Your ability to get people excited about projects is well known and recognized. You have been able to exercise  this talent across a few different projects and I think it has just as much to do with you as it does the project in question. I believe your background as a mathematician coupled with the ability to speak well makes you a great talent scout and a unusual mix of talents. 

To answer your question, Yes I do. I think the evidence is here in the forums. As time has past and even more so of late we are seeing people with a range of talents being attracted to Bitshares like months to a flame. I think Ethereum's approach of attracting talent/interest is different then ours. Ethereum has a star power for sure, just read through the list of names of people working on the project. That in itself is huge. Bitshares has maybe some less established players but arguably twice as hungry. These guys don't have long legacy's of accolades, most of their stories good or bad have yet to be written.  I don't know so I will ask, Why does it  seem like  Ethereum has attracted the attention of many of the established players while Bitshares developers seem to be younger and with less......history? I think the answer has alot to do with you and as stated above, your ability to attract talent.Which you have a proven track record of.

Bitshares attracts talent through incentive(delegates) and by appealing to ideal's, Does Ethereum just appeal to ideal's to attract talent?


"It seems to be a payment mechanism for work and that's great to explore. The bigger issue is if the development team is inclusive or exclusive. Bitcoin is terribly closed to the outside world and many with great ideas from Amir Taaki to the Btcd project have been excluded from the conversation for whatever reason is floating in the core developer's head.

I think it's worth spending some time examining successful open source projects like the linux project (800 developers from 100 countries) to firefox. What have they done to attract talent and new ideas? How do they manage the community? How do they deal with different philosophies and goals? A little bit of time in reflection can yield great results. "


Your comparisons are to preemptive to draw any kind of conclusions. The projects stated above long histories. Firefox was started by 2 people who worked together that were unhappy about the direction their boss was telling them to go.They were also done at a time when the internet was young. In order to understand why some one thinks or feels the way they do you must not only look at the person or company but you must also look at the time period they worked in.

To quote BM "Bitshares is like a onion, Bitshares has layers". To me Bitcoin(god bless it, if you believe in that kind of thing) is a victim of its own success. Money attracts alot of player's and each player with their own agenda. We are only at the outer most layer. We are just learning how people will behave as delegates and how voters will use their power. Thats not even taking the challenges that the code itself into consideration. 

Bitshares has caught alot of flack because of the way it has changed or even better evolved. I won't argue if the changes are good or bad from the original, thats for nature to decide.I will argue that its willingness to make big moves and bold changes will help keep the project a success.

I wish you would consider joining a mumble session. A good portion of this conversation is about the free exchange of thoughts and ideas, why not come share some with us. Not only that but I think you would probably make a certain fuzz a very happy happy guy. 



 

Quote from: testz on January 07, 2015, 10:29:46 am

Quote from: CLains on January 07, 2015, 10:27:02 am

He is probably buying like mad :p

 

  That would actually be really smart on his part