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i voted YES purely on the condition that this is a LIMITED TRIAL with perpetuation of the policy contingent on results.

I, too, am in favor of limiting this to a 6-month trial.  I propose targeting it 75% to BitUSD, 20% BitCNY and 5% BitEur, with a goal of creating the equivalent of at least $1M in total BitAssets.  Also, to receive yield, perhaps it should be required to lock up funds for a month at a time.  So yield would be paid every month starting 1 month after lock-up (on an account by account basis), and early withdrawal means yield is forfeited. 

So we get people to move funds onto the DEX, they become more frequent users of the DEX, and create BitAssets propelling us to worldwide fiat-pegged leaders, which will garner greater overall attention for Bitshares in general and our smartcoins in particular.  Not to mention new users that might be attracted by the yield to buy and hold smartcoins.

On the liquidity front, we can launch this in conjunction with liquidity pools that any of these new users and new BitAsset creators/holders can voluntarily participate in.  This can be incentivized by the Nasdaq-style market maker liquidity rewards program (to be developed separately, discussed on another thread), which of course any liquidity provider can participate in (and which UIA issuers can use with their own funds to incentivize liquidity in the markets for their own assets). 

If we require generation of more liquidity, the rewards can be increased as necessary.  Conversely, as liquidity grows, the rewards can be diminished and directed to other BitAsset  markets such as BitGOLD, BitSILVER, BitOIL, BitAAPL, etc. 

These are just some suggestions and starting points for further discussion, including how some of the pieces of the puzzle might fit together.  Thoughts @Empirical1.2, @cylonmaker2053?  Anyone else with constructive input?

I think with the yield the goal is to trial it & guage it's efficacy. So I wouldn't necessarily suggest spreading it out over 3 assets but just trying it on 1. If we think we can accurately measure the impact on BitUSD with 75% then we might be better off trialling BitUSD at a lower cost and only rolling out the additional amount of CNY/EUR if shareholders feel the results are sufficiently positive.

Also regards the 1 month lock up, I don't know. On the one hand I imagine interest accrued at <1 month wouldn't be a very strong motivating factor, so it might not be worth the restriction. Then again without it many people might buy BitUSD whenever BTS was falling and vice versa, thus removing/putting pressure on buy/sell side liquidity at those key times and so actually incentivizing people to hold in those turns may help.

As for the liquidity front yeah that sounds good, it's not my area but given the spreads we clearly need to subsidize it in some way and I believe increasing BitAsset adoption is incredibly valuable to BTS so I think it's worth it. It also makes sense that yes you'd decrease the incentive when you had sufficient liquidity and/or move it around to other markets you wanted to bootstrap.

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General Discussion / Re: Liquidity Pool Discussion
« on: March 07, 2016, 05:41:36 pm »
i'm also in the market making business for our USD, BTC, and SILVER markets and so i'm viewing these ideas from that perspective.

#1 we have a natural supply limit to any smartcoin, which is some function of excess BTS people are willing to lock up in collateral for that particular smartcoin. there's also an upper bound based purely on exchange rate and amount of BTS required per unit of that smartcoin. 1 million bitUSD is far too large a number. we're probably looking at more like 100,000 bitUSD at current BTS valuation and amount people are willing to tie up in collateral.


If we implement the BitUSD yield trial you are in favour of we should see a substantial increase in BitUSD creation. (The trial would pay out circa $120 000 in yield over the following 6 months, which would be the equivalent of 10% p.a on $1.2 million BitUSD for those 6 months, so I believe we'll see at least that amount created.)

#2 juicy spreads are what induce liquidity providers to enter markets. in absence of any support/intervention, simply observing spreads shows us what kind of risk/reward market makers imply for our assets. artificially narrowing this spread (albeit by fixing settlement ranges and thereby reducing some risk) could easily induce market makers to leave the DEX.

I agree that some fixed settlement ranges on either side of the peg but quite far away to reduce some risk would be a positive. (Forced settlement at 1-1 for example actually discourages shorts/liquidity imo.)

However I believe narrowing spreads combined with partially subsidized returns will attract market makers. NuBits for example artificially narrows the spread but pays circa 0.2% a day for a set amount of liquidity on each exchange. The Buy/Sell walls you see on CCDEK for example 'appear' to be achieved for $40 a day.

http://cybnate.github.io/index-liquidbits.html
https://www.ccedk.com/nbt-usd

I imagine we can do the same at a wider spread and achieve similar results. I have messaged the creator of the pool mentioned in the OP and invited him to this thread to hopefully learn more about that and the cost.


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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: March 07, 2016, 05:15:12 pm »
Can somebody enlighten me whats the cypher point for this baas speculation? From what i can gather here https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21115.45.html its clear that a user just made a template for deploying a witness node on azure vm and sent a request to mst folks asking to review the submission. Just that. Did they actually confirm theyre gonna add it? Did they mention theyre willing to officially certify it along with other features on their cloud computing platform? I guess no. I see smoke and mirrors everywhere.

Further in the same thread...

Community Action Request: Content for Azure BaaS blog post. 


Request:
First, please review Mr. Marley's previous blog posts to see how other blockchain offerings are being positioned [1].  Then, please provide ideas on what you feel should be included in his upcoming blog post highlighting BitShares

[1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/author/marleyg/

Yes, I did read these. And so? This phrase "his upcoming blog post highlighting BitShare" does not make it any clearer.

Did they actually confirm theyre gonna add it?

Since it says "upcoming" I suppose they're willing to announce whether they're gonna add it. For the time being there is no official confirmation that they will be using openledger in the foreseeable future.

It makes it much clearer. Your initial post & link said the user had only made a request and received no feedback, the post I replied with indicates he has received feedback and it is likely the addition of BitShares will be announced in an upcoming blog post. 

Can somebody enlighten me whats the cypher point for this baas speculation?....
Did they actually confirm theyre gonna add it?

If they confirmed it, it wouldn't be speculation...



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i voted YES purely on the condition that this is a LIMITED TRIAL with perpetuation of the policy contingent on results.

 +5% Exactly, a limited trial with perpetuation contingent on results.

I think it's a great time to start the trial/promotion as the increase in BitUSD CAP and adoption may take the wind out of a lot of competitor's sails. 

I would recommend against this. I actually proposed something similar myself more than a year ago, but I have since then learned a lot more about economics.

Thanks for the recommendation & best of luck with the launch of MKR.





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The BitShares blockchain is a Financial Services platform for SmartCoins coupled with a decentralized asset exchange. SmartCoins are price-stable digital assets pegged to the current value of various currencies, commodities, stocks and other financial instruments.  The BitShares blockchain “witnesses” public data from world financial markets to “publish” pricing information to the decentralized asset exchange.  Markets are made and the blockchain enforces all SmartCoin parameters and transactions.  The industrial-grade blockchain is currently operating at a 3-second block interval with peaks to thousands of transaction per second. BitShares is delivering today on the promises of blockchain functionality, scalability and speed.  Spin up an Ubuntu VM with the software to get connected in about 15 minutes.

Sounds good.  +5%

 +5% Looks pretty good.

I like this, but fear that we need to be very careful promoting something that as yet is not proven to be perfectly pegged.
I would appreciate a comment from CNX on the overall message to would-be BaaS users. @Stan @bytemaster or others care to contribute their desires related to this initiative? 

I hope you get some feedback from Stan/BM. Regards Price Stable crypto-currencies, they're BTS's best innovation imo & have been in circulation, fully collateralised and pegged to their real world counterparts for over 20 months. They're also the number one feature we promote on BitShares.org so we should definitely proudly promote them. https://bitshares.org/technology/price-stable-cryptocurrencies/

 +5% +5% Again though Fox, really great work, thanks

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: March 07, 2016, 03:16:16 pm »
Can somebody enlighten me whats the cypher point for this baas speculation? From what i can gather here https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21115.45.html its clear that a user just made a template for deploying a witness node on azure vm and sent a request to mst folks asking to review the submission. Just that. Did they actually confirm theyre gonna add it? Did they mention theyre willing to officially certify it along with other features on their cloud computing platform? I guess no. I see smoke and mirrors everywhere.

Further in the same thread...

Community Action Request: Content for Azure BaaS blog post. 


Request:
First, please review Mr. Marley's previous blog posts to see how other blockchain offerings are being positioned [1].  Then, please provide ideas on what you feel should be included in his upcoming blog post highlighting BitShares

[1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/author/marleyg/

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: March 07, 2016, 01:35:42 pm »
anything below $40 mil market cap doesn't even worth discussing it i think..
Talking  about small pump from 0.000009 to 0.00001 and vice versa are insignificant and I think harm bts price..I think we should revisit this thread only when we are x5 of current price..Otherwise people from outside the community see that we think this is a pump and they just dump..
We should start having a bit higher expectations than that people...

The small rise from 09 - 1 was in relation to expectations of a much bigger rise coming next week...

we could be shortly added to Microsoft Azure BAAS....

On 7th December Microsoft Azure announced they were adding Ripple.  Over next 4 days, XRP increased 75% in value.
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/azure-blockchain-as-a-service-update/
On 15th December  Microsoft Azure announced they were adding Factom. Over next 6 days FCT increased 680% in value.
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/azure-baas-update-2/
On 4th January Microsoft Azure announced they were adding Emercoin. Over next 6 days  EMC increased 367% in value.
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/azure-blockchain-as-a-service-update-3/

It won't have an impact as big, it's not something new now, people might have got used to cryptos getting on Azure

I'm not expecting massive gains but it's particularly good news for BTS as we tend to be development strong but adoption/utility/known 3rd party weak so the name recognition of Microsoft Azure is a big positive & step in the right direction. I agree with Ander that we'll see 20-30 million and I also think we'll retain some of that additional value too, though we'll probably have to wait for at least a week after the announcement to get a sense of what it's worth to BTS.

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General Discussion / Re: Potential BitShares Road Map for 2016
« on: March 07, 2016, 12:06:22 pm »
To be honest I'm interested in the liquidity pool only (my own opinion).

One question: will BitUSD in liquidity pool produce interests? If yes, to whom?
).

The interest will go to people who put their BitUSD/BTS in the liquidity pool paid for by BTS shareholders.

If you were yield harvesting BitUSD, so had BitUSD in your account anyway it may not take much to convince you to send some of it to the liquidity pool. I know very little about market making and liquidity pools but I  have created a liquidity pool discussion and given an example of one so hopefully I/we can find out more about if they are a helpful/cost effective way of achieving liquidity and a tight peg. Would be interested in your opinion/input...

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21800.0.html
What if the pool sold out some or most of its BitUSD? Then where does the interest come from?

My temporary conclusion is: when it's possible to do yield harvesting, if you want more interest from BitUSD, don't put your BitUSD into liquidity pool. Or say, any interest on BitUSD will make the cost of running a liquidity pool more expensive, since the investors expect more return.

By the way, why not quote and/or reply to the rest of my previous post?
All these features can be done in 3rd-party CLIENT SOFTWARE, but not have to be done in the core, nor have to ask for BM's or other core developers' opinion. It's safe to let the committee hold and distribute the funds for incentives.

In regards to the funds for development, you can try IPO or other ways to raise funds first, after main functionality is completed developing, sell the feature to stake holders via worker (or maybe you'll find it's good to operate it by yourself at that time).

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What if the pool sold out some or most of its BitUSD? Then where does the interest come from?

When the sell side gets depleted, the interest rate gets higher to attract new BitUSD into the pool. You could also raise the price from $1.01-$1.02. (The interest for the pool would be subsidized by BTS shareholders.)

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My temporary conclusion is: when it's possible to do yield harvesting, if you want more interest from BitUSD, don't put your BitUSD into liquidity pool. Or say, any interest on BitUSD will make the cost of running a liquidity pool more expensive, since the investors expect more return.

That's true but I think even if you were yield harvesting at around 5% a year, that would only be 0.013% a day so it shouldn't have much impact on our decision to use the liquidity pool which pays 0.2% a day I think however there should be a lot of BitUSD in existence willing to participate if it was already yield harvesting.

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By the way, why not quote and/or reply to the rest of my previous post?

Sorry, my response was only to the interest part so I only quoted that. (I don't have a strong opinion on the rest yet but I think yes a third party option would probably be best at first so it can be tweaked easily.) 

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General Discussion / Re: Potential BitShares Road Map for 2016
« on: March 07, 2016, 10:43:25 am »
To be honest I'm interested in the liquidity pool only (my own opinion).

One question: will BitUSD in liquidity pool produce interests? If yes, to whom?
).

The interest will go to people who put their BitUSD/BTS in the liquidity pool paid for by BTS shareholders.

If you were yield harvesting BitUSD, so had BitUSD in your account anyway it may not take much to convince you to send some of it to the liquidity pool. I know very little about market making and liquidity pools but I  have created a liquidity pool discussion and given an example of one so hopefully I/we can find out more about if they are a helpful/cost effective way of achieving liquidity and a tight peg. Would be interested in your opinion/input...

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21800.0.html





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General Discussion / Liquidity Pool Discussion
« on: March 07, 2016, 10:41:20 am »
Below is an example of a liquidity pool implementation. I imagine if we created millions of BitUSD via yield harvesting and we lowered forced settlement to $0.95 & attempted a similar implementation with a wider peg say $0.99 - $.1.01, that we'd be able to achieve a similar result for a similar cost?

My concern is that there will be excess BitUSD demand initially at $1.01 but the below implementation attempts to raise interest rates when that is the case. If anyone with experience in market making or liquidity pools, could give their input on the following

Questions/Input Required

1. Is this a cost-effective way of achieving liquidity and a tighter peg for BitUSD?
2. Would having a lot of BitUSD created via yield harvesting make it easier/more BitUSD available to be attracted to the pool.

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Pool A:

Participants

1. Pool A will accept deposit in BTC and NBT. The BTC deposit address is: xxxxx, and NBT deposit address is: yyyyy. Deposit transactions will be published.

2. The send-from address of every deposit transaction will be the address to receive fund withdraw in future.

6. The number of shares of participants will be: Amount of NBT deposit / NAV in effective day or Amount of BTC deposit * BTC price at 10:00am in effective day / NAV in effective day.

7. The asset of participants will be The number of shares * NAV

8. If participants withdraw fund, they will get The number of shares * NAV in NBT or The number of shares * NAV / BTC price in BTC


Fee and Calculation

1. When the pool begin operate, I will propose a motion to let Nu shareholders approve the daily custodian fee rate of 0.34%. 0.07% will be manage fee rate, 0.27% will be participant expected return rate.

2. When the total liquidity in buy side of Nu network is greater than 110% of the total liquidity in sell side for 7 consecutive days, the daily custodian fee rate will be decreased by 10% at next accounting period, and the manage fee rate and participant expected return rate will be decreased accordingly.

3. When the total liquidity in buy side of Nu network is not greater than 90 of the total liquidity in sell side for 7 consecutive days, the daily custodian fee rate will be increased by 10% until it reaches 0.34%, the maximum of daily custodian fee rate, at next accounting period.

4. NAV of the pool will be calculated in the following formulas:

Total asset = Holding of NBT + Holding of BTC * BTC price at 10:00 AM - Total asset in previous accounting day * manage fee rate

Custodian Fee wait to be granted = Custodian Fee to be granted in previous accounting day + Total Asset * custodian fee rate * days

NAV = (total asset + custodian fee wait to be granted) / total number of shares


https://discuss.nubits.com/t/passed-motion-to-create-the-first-liquidity-pool-the-nu-lagoon/1616

Here is the performance of that implementation over time. http://nulagoon.com/charts.html

* I don't think we should confuse the way Nubits are created/backed, (which most of us don't agree with) with the way they provide liquidity which is something that we might be able to learn from.


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General Discussion / Re: Potential BitShares Road Map for 2016
« on: March 07, 2016, 08:46:57 am »
I'd like to know what @ccedk @Stan @Riverhead @onceuponatime and @bytemaster think of that yield harvesting proposal.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21597.0.html
 
Like I mentioned @tbone -if it brings liquidity to bitEUR, bitCNY and bitUSD, as well as tightening those spreads then I am all for it
...especially since this is just a 6-month trial.
 
The poll suggests that stakeholders are in favor of this too, so why not give it a green light?
 
BSIP needed @Empirical1.2 please. Unless one of the 5 folks above has a good reason not to try this out, then I will support this.

@kenCode: during the mumble 2 Fridays ago, @bytemaster said he had read Empirical's post and thought he was reading his mind.  He said paying yield is simply paying people to lock up their funds, an idea he himself has proposed on multiple occasions.  He said doing so gives people a reason to stay in, encourages them to be engaged in the process, encourages them to be active voters, etc.  He also said this concept is sound, although he pointed that yield harvesting means people are shorting BitAssets to themselves (i.e. no net long or short position), which doesn't create liquidity.

I agree with this for the most part, although I would make 2 points.  First, not everyone taking advantage of the yield will be harvesting.  Some will be new users attracted by the yield to buy and hold BitAssets.  So that real demand means new users and some increased liquidity.  Moreover, we could pay just enough yield to incentivize people to create and hold BitAssets (must lock funds for a minimum period of time), but then also incentivize anyone willing to make the BitAssets they now hold available for a liquidity pool used to create substantial buy and sell walls at the peg.

So what we end up with is more current BTS holders moving their funds onto the DEX and creating BitAssets, which will make us the world's fiat-pegged crypto leader (which earns us attention and is attractive to merchants), we add new BitAsset users, greater liquidity, and a tighter peg.  I think we're making a huge mistake if we don't seriously discuss this concept.

Agreed @tbone. BSIP needed. Let's git'r done. Once live, you have our votes.
@Empirical1.2

+5% That's really positive from BM. Regards a BSIP I haven't done one before but feel it may need BM's input to turn that idea/concept into something viable. If someone wants to attempt one I'll certainly support it otherwise I may have time to do one later in the week.

This week I may attempt to get in touch with some liquidity pool operators to find out if it's easier/cheaper to incentivise liquidity once millions of BitUSD have been created & can be used as that would certainly make a stronger case for it too.

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General Discussion / Re: So we finally turned the page on fees
« on: March 05, 2016, 05:07:29 pm »
Initial uptrend is looking good.

http://imgur.com/fCKgkJD


I guess it's too early to know if will keep increasing, but it's a good sign nonetheless! Would like feedback from the chinese community. @alt @abit @bitcrab could you share if people seem to be more satisfied with these lower fees?

You can be pretty certain the transaction amount should increase. At the same time there's not a huge amount of utility in BTS, so the majority of transactions are probably between individuals and exchanges, so I doubt it will be drastic.

Even though you might not notice it right now, not having 0.2% trading fees & $0.2 TX fees will be very important for reducing friction in the BitUSD business cycle and keeping spreads tight.

Well, since fees were so contested I really expect an increase in the number of transactions/trades. Unless it was all talk.

Hopefully it will do that. Spreads are one of the reasons we have liquidity issues, no one wants to buy bitUSD for $1.20

Well in order to lower spreads I think we need to do this... https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21541.msg283465.html#msg283465

But then the low TX & trading fees should be able to keep it in a 2% range.

Yield Harvesters to Liquidity Pool to BitUSD Buyers at 1.01  to Merchants at 1-1 to Liquidity Pool again at 0.99-1.00
 

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General Discussion / Re: So we finally turned the page on fees
« on: March 05, 2016, 12:03:17 pm »
Initial uptrend is looking good.

http://imgur.com/fCKgkJD


I guess it's too early to know if will keep increasing, but it's a good sign nonetheless! Would like feedback from the chinese community. @alt @abit @bitcrab could you share if people seem to be more satisfied with these lower fees?

You can be pretty certain the transaction amount should increase. At the same time there's not a huge amount of utility in BTS, so the majority of transactions are probably between individuals and exchanges, so I doubt it will be drastic.

Even though you might not notice it right now, not having 0.2% trading fees & $0.2 TX fees will be very important for reducing friction in the BitUSD business cycle and keeping spreads tight. 









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Numerous times such discussion starts with good point and then dissolves in brainstorming fashion.

One thing is obvious from the very beginning, this project lacks clear objective.
It is problem of a leadership. I have to admit that BM critics have proved its point.

Good leader would know one thing. He must become entrepreneur first. With all possibilities he might dream of he need at least one practical thing that is working to prove his point. To himself and to others. In such a way he build his momentum, his self confidence and his courage to persist in chasing his dreams no matter what. Henry Ford has dreamed about horseless carriage. Then he put all his knowledge and talent in to building one. It took him two years for finishing his first working prototype. With money and credibility he earned he build Ford Motor Company.
I think our problem is that Bitshare is internal combustion engine for BMs horseless carriage. Although critical component, without it horseless carriage surely couldn't exist as such, it is not a point of a dream. So what is our horseless carriage. Is it decentralized exchange for Bishares. It may be.

All things that we enjoy in our modern life, from electricity that drives it to this very forum, was ones a dream in someones head.
Difference is that someone put it for people to see, feel and enjoy benefits of using it.

The DEX is horseless carriage... it was perhaps a few months ago during a hangout that BM did bring up that the original goal of bitshares.. like the VERY beginning it was created.. was in response to MtGOX... they wanted to create a decentralized exchange where nobody would have to ever worry again about that happening. Back then it was also believed that bitcoin would never be regulated.. and therefore it would be open to such messes like that happening all the time.

He then went on to talk about how since then it is not as much of a concern now as it used to be. The government regulating bitcoin was unexpected.. and therefore now causes exchanges to be more accountable and having to follow certain government oversight.

So to continue with your comparison.. it is as though they set out to create the horseless carriage.. and came up with one about 10 years to late. Not quite the right fit comparison.. but you get the idea... certain assumptions that were made from the beginning turned out to go in another direction.

So fast forward to today and you see people wondering why people are not swarming to the DEX.. we call it an identiy crisis because where we began now while it does have a unique value proposition.. the pain that we were originally designed to solve is no longer present due to the market changes. The gains we offer are not high on the priorities of that customer segment.. but the task of trading that the exchange accomplishes it does it well.

So where does that leave us now? He tried to suggest i the same hangout that at potential target market we should look at might be freedom lovers as a niche that might be responsive to having an open ledger.

What I think  now is we have a DEX.. and yes.. there are other markets that can be served by it.. however I think bitshares overall future is really as a business blockchain platform.

The DEX can serve as a hub for settlements and currency exchange.

Businesses can build their smart contracts on Bitshares and get all the benefits the DEX has to offer in powering those contracts.

So when it comes to identifying what Bitshares is.. it is clear to me that we have product that is a DEX... that serves as a great DEMO of just one thing that can run on the bitshares blockchain.

What we need now is for those who are traders and those wanting to focus in that space to do so.

For the rest of what bitshares has to offer.. I would say we need to start identifying the most obvious verticals that will serve specific businesses and get those businesses building their apps on Bitshares.

Anyways.. my  +5% :)

Regards the DEX, as it doesn't allow people to deposit/withdraw alts 1-1 it hasn't really had the opportunity to compete with a CEX. As a platform due to the nature of crypto/open source, many features such as speed/other will be fairly indistinguishable to people outside crypto from one platform (NXT/BTS) to another, so it would come down to which platform is marketed the best, we can all agree BTS is not/unlikely to be the strongest in the room in terms of marketing.

Imo the horseless carriage is and has always been BitAssets and they've been designed at a time when horses (the banks) are about to be wiped out by the plague. The question is whether we can be the Henry Ford of Crypto and package them in such a way as they're accessible & attractive to millions of people.

Personally I think BTS is on the cusp of greatness, by making BitAssets attractive through offering yield and a $0.99-$1.01 range. (All self funding during the multi year growth/adoption phase of BitAssets.)

By focusing on that first you'll gain utility as merchants & businesses will want to serve that market and potentially be based on your platform to do it or even to use BitAssets themselves.




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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: March 04, 2016, 10:03:27 pm »
anything below $40 mil market cap doesn't even worth discussing it i think..
Talking  about small pump from 0.000009 to 0.00001 and vice versa are insignificant and I think harm bts price..I think we should revisit this thread only when we are x5 of current price..Otherwise people from outside the community see that we think this is a pump and they just dump..
We should start having a bit higher expectations than that people...

The small rise from 09 - 1 was in relation to expectations of a much bigger rise coming next week...

we could be shortly added to Microsoft Azure BAAS....

On 7th December Microsoft Azure announced they were adding Ripple.  Over next 4 days, XRP increased 75% in value.
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/azure-blockchain-as-a-service-update/
On 15th December  Microsoft Azure announced they were adding Factom. Over next 6 days FCT increased 680% in value.
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/azure-baas-update-2/
On 4th January Microsoft Azure announced they were adding Emercoin. Over next 6 days  EMC increased 367% in value.
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/azure-blockchain-as-a-service-update-3/

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