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1st step is for current BTCUIA providers to provide a watch only bitcoin hotwallet so we can all confirm they are issuing tokens 1:1

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General Discussion / Re: Gold and Blockchain
« on: February 04, 2016, 11:13:26 am »
Maybe we should contact zerohedge about bitgold?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-03/guest-post-how-blockchain-and-gold-can-work-together

The irony is that gold is supposed to be a real asset, BitUSD is just a derivative
Gold bugs often blame the financial crisis on derivatives.

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4 weeks sponsorship have now been fully funded and paid for by donations from the community. See updated original post.
Please stop donating now.
Thanks to everyone who donated, this should be some great exposure for BTS :-)
First episode is on the 9th.

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It is possible to do the following:

1. Have all of the witnesses monitor the BTC network for transfers to a designated multi-sig address which is defined by the BTS consensus to be the top 15 witness signatures (max MSIG allowed by BTC).   All of these UNSPENT OUTPUTS get included as part of BTS consensus state.

2. Every time a BTC transaction gets 6 confirmations, the blockchain transfers SIDE-BTC asset to a balance controlled by the first input address (assuming the address is a simple 1 sig input).

3. Allow this SIDE-BTC asset to be converted back to BTC with an operation that makes a request.  For witnesses to produce a block they must also sign off on the MSIG transfer authorizing BTC to be sent to the proper address.

This is something that could probably be implemented in about a month of dev time on the back end.

In theory the witnesses could collude to steal all deposited BTC funds.


without multisig, this is already working on metaexchange.

we recieving BTC -->creating METAEX.BTC
if you send METAEX.BTC back we send you BTC and burn METAEX.BTC

you can see the operations in realtime here http://cryptofresh.com/u/dev-metaexchange.monsterer

what is the value of doing it? would it not be better if we can setup some mulitsig for (blocktrades, opernledger and metaexchange) so we can use the same UIA?

gives this really more value?

Where is the bitcoin wallet  (blockchain.info link)we can monitor? So that we can all check you only issue 1:1 metaex.btc:btc


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General Discussion / Re: Theory and Late Night Musings on Smartcoins
« on: February 03, 2016, 09:47:43 am »
Nice musings.

What you are basically saying is allow forced settlements of debts. Right now we only have forced setllement of bitassets.

I think this is because those who want to hold bitusd need to be pretty certain their bitusd won't be turned into bts if the orignal creator wants to settle up.

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It is possible to do the following:

1. Have all of the witnesses monitor the BTC network for transfers to a designated multi-sig address which is defined by the BTS consensus to be the top 15 witness signatures (max MSIG allowed by BTC).   All of these UNSPENT OUTPUTS get included as part of BTS consensus state.

2. Every time a BTC transaction gets 6 confirmations, the blockchain transfers SIDE-BTC asset to a balance controlled by the first input address (assuming the address is a simple 1 sig input).

3. Allow this SIDE-BTC asset to be converted back to BTC with an operation that makes a request.  For witnesses to produce a block they must also sign off on the MSIG transfer authorizing BTC to be sent to the proper address.

This is something that could probably be implemented in about a month of dev time on the back end.

In theory the witnesses could collude to steal all deposited BTC funds.

Thanks for this explanation, This would be a better solution than bitbtc.

FBA wouldn't be a suitable way to fund this, it should be a worker proposal.

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I agree,
These are trade fees, Trade fees belong to the reserve pool and nowhere else.
Refilling the fee pool is the only other legitimate use but personally I think that might be better done as a worker proposal for transparent accounting. 



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General Discussion / Re: Radical ideas for liquidity
« on: February 02, 2016, 04:18:23 pm »
- Settlement can be discouraged by asking for a percentage fee (1-2%) (this will move the peg AROUND parity. Flat fee for settlement can also be increase which has some negative effects on pred. markets

 +5%

-The idea that BitUSD was always worth a dollar was good but in practice I think the market would prefer BitAssets to trade around the peg rather than above the peg.

- I think forced settlement at 100% even with the delay can perhaps be manipulated by altering BTS price on external markets.

JohnnyBitcoin previously exploited transwiser via forced settlement & perhaps still has a forced settlement edge given how keen he is on maximising  forced settlement, max daily settlement & was also keen to buy $10k BitUSD recently just above feed? https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21096.msg273365.html#msg273365

- I think an actual 1-2% fee could be good as it could then be used to incentivize shorts/other who are the ones that seem the most reluctant to come close to the peg atm.

I think you and a few others have a real misunderstanding of force settlement. Force settling is just a guarantee of liquidity at peg. If people are stupid enough to sell smartcoins for less than what they can be settled for then of course I will buy them and settle at profit. Watch my video at thedex.org for a more detailed explanation.

Weren't you offering to buy the $10k BitUSD in my example for more that it could be force settled at the time?

yes. i wanted to buy some cheap.

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General Discussion / Re: Radical ideas for liquidity
« on: February 02, 2016, 02:23:42 pm »
- Settlement can be discouraged by asking for a percentage fee (1-2%) (this will move the peg AROUND parity. Flat fee for settlement can also be increase which has some negative effects on pred. markets

 +5%

-The idea that BitUSD was always worth a dollar was good but in practice I think the market would prefer BitAssets to trade around the peg rather than above the peg.

- I think forced settlement at 100% even with the delay can perhaps be manipulated by altering BTS price on external markets.

JohnnyBitcoin previously exploited transwiser via forced settlement & perhaps still has a forced settlement edge given how keen he is on maximising  forced settlement, max daily settlement & was also keen to buy $10k BitUSD recently just above feed? https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21096.msg273365.html#msg273365

- I think an actual 1-2% fee could be good as it could then be used to incentivize shorts/other who are the ones that seem the most reluctant to come close to the peg atm.

I think you and a few others have a real misunderstanding of force settlement. Force settling is just a guarantee of liquidity at peg. If people are stupid enough to sell smartcoins for less than what they can be settled for then of course I will buy them and settle at profit. Watch my video at thedex.org for a more detailed explanation.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares has sponsored the Daily Decrypt Feb 9-15
« on: February 02, 2016, 01:24:43 pm »
Have earmarked the second week with Amanda.

Just need 8500bts more and I'll get it booked.

Donate now to BTS account: dailydecryptsponsorship9-15feb

And do we want want to fundraise a 3rd week?  maybe openledger should sponsor a whole week too.  @ccedk

And do we have anyone good who would maybe do a skype interview/chat with Amanda?
maybe Max Wright, bytemaster RonnyB, fuzzy


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Yeah having looked into it a bit it looks like true sidechains haven't really been invented yet.

Blockstreams version (liquid) relies on a federated version with a multisig wallet type thing.
and the dogecoin to etherum blockchain version burns coins.

I hope someone does invent it because I can't see a time in the future when smartcoins will be viable for any cryptocoins outside of the top 5 by market cap.

Sidechains would be perfect for trading altcoins on bitshares.

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It's definitely worth a go. I will participate on the 29th. :-)

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General Discussion / Re: Radical ideas for liquidity
« on: January 31, 2016, 07:44:41 pm »
@CoinHoarder i like this idea it think it makes a lot of sense.
I also think it would be very bullish for the bts price

When you say print bts, do you mean take from the reserve pool?
Have you though about what happens with force liquidations?


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@alt

Please understand these are trade profits that belong to the reserve pool.
This has been discussed thoroughly on page 57 of stupid questions thread.
These belong and must be returned to the reserve pool.
Funds for development can be requested via a worker proposal, lets not muddy the sources of revenue like this please.

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General Discussion / Re: poll for the "1 BTS for transfer" proposal
« on: January 31, 2016, 03:28:29 am »
Can't a faucet page be made where new accounts can be created with no referrer and the user simply pays in Bitcoin and they can even sign up with a premium name from day one.

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