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Meta / [BUG] Multi-language display problem
« on: November 24, 2013, 01:13:49 am »
We observed some language is not displayed correctly. We are working on that.

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BitShares PTS / Re: GPU Miners are here... if rumors are to be believed!
« on: November 23, 2013, 05:43:41 pm »
Do Not Purchase Anything From do not purchase from satoshibox !

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General Discussion / Re: Problem with http://www.btc38.com/
« on: November 23, 2013, 03:23:01 am »
Hello,

 Does anyone know how I can sign-up for this site? I did the Google translate, but I'm missing the obvious sign-up and register page.
 If you have a URL, I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Most people their use QQ accounts to login. So it is complicated. Registration at qq.com is not easy.

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BitShares PTS / Re: GPU Miners are here... if rumors are to be believed!
« on: November 22, 2013, 08:34:35 pm »
Does this mean someone won the $5000 prize for proving you wrong?

It is already paid http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=22.0

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what happened?

My payment address: PenisWxQhJXM7KBMwdKn9WFAj8Gi9dL6Xx

Nothing bad, I did not manage the private key properly for old address. So for future safety, it is better to get a new one. The fund has been transferred.

Thank you everyone.

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UPDATE:

For a security reason, the donation address has been changed to PforumPLfVQXTi4QpQqKwoChXHkoHcxGuA. The fund in old address will be moved.

Please update your signature, and also edit your reply with Your Personal address to receive the pay.

I am sorry for the inconvenience.

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You can find the "donation" tab between "Help" and "Search". It is very simple now, I will make it looks better when I have time.

The address is PforumPLfVQXTi4QpQqKwoChXHkoHcxGuA

Mods, please sign up for the compensation by replying this topic after you changed your signature properly.

If you have other comments, please reply the following topic before replying this one.
http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=845.0

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哦 是这样啊
你们这样1PTS兑换1BTS 还会产生2个危机:
1 你们官方的说法是当PTS挖矿挖到150万左右的时候推出BTS,但是你们有没有想过 当那个时候,PTS挖矿每日总产量只有几十个PTS了,但是BTS呢第一日就能有10万的产量,你想想会发生什么,大量挖PTS的人都去挖BTS了,还有谁愿意挖PTS啊,那这样PTS肯定会发生51%攻击漏洞啊。

2 PTS价格会随着挖矿难度的增加而增加,当你们BTS要发布的时候,PTS的挖矿难度高的吓人了,基本挖不到了,这个时候 你们突然BTS开始挖 每天10万的量放出来,而且PTS和BTS兑换比例也是1:1,那时候挖到BTS的人大量抛售,会引起PTS价格大跌啊。

兑换比例如果不方便改也可以,但是你们得更多的考虑我们初期购买PTS的股东的利益。

PTS必要的时候会更新客户端和BTS合并挖矿保证PTS继续运行和安全

BTS发布时会采用当时PTS的难度,并且动态调整难度不会出现一天10万的产量。最差的情况如果真的一天10w产量,也会有5w的产量作为分红分给当时的持有者,PTS持有者的利益会被保障。

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I will open donation page later today. Good job everyone.

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: bitshares的进展
« on: November 22, 2013, 04:45:02 am »
Mail ID Chat统称Keyhotee,捐赠者ID预售12月25日截止,普通ID在1月1日开放。
IPOcoin是一个废弃了的名字,你应该指的就是ProtoShares
BitShares会在明年发布,具体看进展

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PTS的发行目的是为BTS的开发运作筹集资金的,也就是说如果你花钱购买了PTS就等于购买了BTS的原始股。
官方目前的承诺是1PTS到时候可以兑换1BTS。
但是大家有没有想过这样的承诺对购买了PTS的人来说是风险大大超过了收益的:
现在的PTS本身是没有价值,他完全是依靠BTS的开发成功而有价值,但是目前来说BTS可能连开发都可能还没开发。
到时候如果BTS开发不成功。那购买了PTS的人的钱不可能退给你吧。如果开发成功了那兑换比例也只是1PTS=1BTS。
那我们何必现在冒这么大的风险购买PTS呢,直接等BTS开发成功后购买BTS一样啊。
我记得当初mastercoins集资的时候是1BTC= 100MSC,这样的价格也只有原始股东能够享受,以后MSC价格飞涨,到现在价格涨到1MSC=0.4BTC了。
所以 我建议官方把:PTS兑换BTS的比例提高到1PTS=2BTS
大家都非常看好PTS、BTS,都希望投资你们,我们作为原始股东,投资的风险我们承担了,但是回报没有看到多少。
也希望PTS、BTS的爱好者 大家一起顶起!让官方重视!

大家都看好BTS, 也正如你说的PTS本身没有价值,如果没有和BTS的1:1兑现,以及其他的产品的1:1兑现承诺,PTS和一个山寨币没什么两样。而PTS今天的价值就是因为有Invictus的承诺,如果今天改为1:2,明天改为1:0.5这还能叫做承诺么,不是等于在操纵PTS的价值。谁还会相信承诺会被兑现?PTS还能有价值么?

我很理解PTS对BTS1:2会更有利于PTS的持有者,但是从PTS换来的BTS和今后挖出的BTS价值不可同日而语阿。BTS的每块奖励将有一半作为红利分给当前BTS的持有者,而当这部分红利成熟后又可以继续参加分红,所以一开始的1BTS的价值和3个月后的1BTS的价值是不同的。我们中国人数学这么好,这点不会算不清吧:)


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中文 (Chinese) / Re: bitshares白皮书中关于总量的不解
« on: November 22, 2013, 12:50:28 am »
白皮书应该是很久没更新了,但是没有误解和歧义的肯定的是,ProtoShares总量最精确为2016000个,通常也就说200万个。BitShares总量是PTS的10倍,这是Invictus对Invictus未来发行的任何的DAC的社会承诺,请看下面第一条,这之中自然包扩BitShares。而ProtoShares对任何未来发布的DAC都拥有1:1免费领取的权利。


1) All chains Invictus launches will be derived from ProtoShares with a 1:1 mapping and 10% of the ultimate money supply of that chain.
2) ProtoDomains may Split from ProtoShares prior to the Launch of DomainShares so that it can be traded and valued separately.   
3) Keyhotee ID is not a currency, there is no way to map ProtoShares into Keyhotee ID (the name chain)
4) There will be many BitShares based chains, not one, and all of them will be 1:1 with ProtoShares
5) We reserve the right to release ProtoShares v2 that honors 100% of ProtoShares v1 with 100% of the money supply allocated. 
6) Associated Press, DAC would honor ProtoShares

Exceptions to the ProtoShares honoring would be if we decided to release a true competitor to be used as a money-only coin and not a trading platform.  In this case we may choose to honor the initial positions in ALL existing *-coin chains proportional to their market cap. 

I want to make it very clear that at no time will we 'reset the clock' for a new chain and owning ProtoShares today does get you ownership in everything we do in the future either directly or indirectly.

http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=531.0 这篇文章会一直留在本论坛。

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Marketplace / MOVED: Trading, buying & selling PTS
« on: November 21, 2013, 07:33:34 pm »

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So miners that do wish to sell -- won't just sell that wallet?

You can sell the wallet or privkey, but no one will believe you won't keep a copy of those and transfer out the fund later when they mature.

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Meta / Re: [ANN] Site Server Migration
« on: November 21, 2013, 07:14:02 pm »
So far this one is much better than before. But let us wait and see.

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