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General Discussion / Re: Liquid AGS shares (LAGS fund)
« on: May 21, 2014, 01:02:11 am »
Quote from: AdamBLevine on May 19, 2014, 01:32:07 pm
Once "AGS" is released  there will be many derivatives that trade on other protocols representing it.  "XAGS" or whatever

What do you mean by:

-"AGS" is released  ???
-on other protocols ????
-other protocols representing it ???

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General Discussion / Re: Rest in Peace, DA
« on: May 21, 2014, 12:37:23 am »
+5%

Just, trying to say, mostly to the other posters, not you smiley35:

- Have a little backbone and voice your opinion what is best for you (us)! Do not just stand up and applause whatever “Stan’ says is ‘The next best thing after the hot water’ “.

- Do not let Stan claim something that is not his, just because “He knows, best what to do with it”.

- And lastly, do not attack someone defending your interest, just to gain points in the eye of the master.

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General Discussion / Re: Rest in Peace, DA
« on: May 21, 2014, 12:02:56 am »
Quote from: smiley35 on May 20, 2014, 11:42:43 pm
The important part that seems to get lost in the noise is that every change/update made is done in a way that increases the value proposition for those invested. AGS was a phenomenal deal for PTS holders if one could see through the curtain of technical and economic development. Similarly whats happening here is that instead of spending the remaining PTS on security, it will now be used to get people excited and incentivized to use bitshares.

I will try to adhere to your polite tone!
 I do not argue with the need for marketing! (read my post, please.)
My post is regarding Stan's stance (bytemaster kind of distanced himself from this proposition in his earlier post) - ‘You fools out here, we have the best marketing Idea. Instead of giving you 15% (i.e. not diluting your shares as promised), we will take those money and PROMISE to give you 2X….10X return.’
My point is ‘If we have 15% of the  PTS, let’s put our collective brain and decide what is the best way to spend them’

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General Discussion / Re: Rest in Peace, DA
« on: May 20, 2014, 11:17:37 pm »
Quote from: fuznuts on May 20, 2014, 10:51:07 pm
Why would it not be better to give some of the pts strategically to form partnerships with a solid footprint in alternative media and//or companies with philosophical characteristics that would help to further bootstrap the industry?

Are all readers, except bytemaster and Agent86, on this forum dyslexic?
 Everybody responding to my words –READ MY POST before answering.
*donkeypong* – you do not have to put this effort. For you registration time on this forum is all that matters, so no need for you to try reading. It will not change my registration date!

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General Discussion / Re: Rest in Peace, DA
« on: May 20, 2014, 10:06:36 pm »
Quote from: Agent86 on May 20, 2014, 07:16:47 pm

Also, my recommendation if you are worried about 15% is to head over to: http://www1.agsexplorer.com/
Make the commitment, stop sitting on the fence! :)

I don't mean to make light of your concern but try to think of the biggest picture.

I have see my 2 prev. + 5's

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General Discussion / Re: Rest in Peace, DA
« on: May 20, 2014, 10:02:34 pm »
Quote from: liondani on May 20, 2014, 11:52:21 am
Or anounce when you will BURN THEM (the remaining PTS) ...
The PTS with DPOS technology and the BURNING METHOD would surely boost the value of PTS...and make the holders twice happy!

 +5%

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General Discussion / Re: Rest in Peace, DA
« on: May 20, 2014, 10:00:48 pm »
Quote from: liondani on May 20, 2014, 11:23:52 am
PS What about the Idea to give the remaining PTS to AGS investors and the percentage that will take I3 because they are heavily  invested on AGS would used for that reason Stan mentioned.After all it would be near $1.000.000 after PTS price raise because of the buzz and I hope the release of BitsharesX...
+5% +5%




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General Discussion / Re: Rest in Peace, DA
« on: May 20, 2014, 04:08:41 pm »
Giving 15% to grow the community is good, very good indeed!

Dilution with 15% all current PTS holder is not good BUT PTS holders must be aware of this already, so it is OK!

But the arrogance it takes for Invictus to treat those 15% of PTS  as theirs, as something that belongs to them by some unknown right is, unbelievable!
The arrogance of Stan does not stop there! He goes on to claim that because of their treatment of funds that are not theirs, this whole scheme will actually be very beneficial for the holders of PTS!

‘A lousy 15% plus-up for PTS holders only is not the best we can do! 
We are aiming for 2x, 3x, ... 10x... growth in value’


How about a noble idea – if this promo will be so great, why doesn’t Invictus add  15 % of their own PTS and 15 % of the AGS fund, so the PTS holders benefit  even more???

And the calm, approving response of the community to that outrageous suggestion is sheepish. We deserve our fate if we accept such despicable statements with such calm and notes of happiness.

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General Discussion / Re: Mid May.Future?
« on: May 18, 2014, 01:56:45 am »
Quote from: AdamBLevine on May 17, 2014, 11:44:32 pm
Quote from: liondani on May 17, 2014, 10:57:52 pm
Quote from: AdamBLevine on May 17, 2014, 10:48:27 pm
I'm not  saying Invictus is doomed to fail, hell I've bought AGS every day this week including today.

 +5% +5% +5% +5% +5% +5% +5% +5% +5%

I want this quote to be moved on topic "marketing"...
This is a very bullish signal for PTS   :) :) :)

Please do not use this for marketing.  Have you not got that I feel trapped and that I'm just acting in my best interest given the situation as I see it?  If Invictus fails to deliver we're screwed anyways so its not like this is an act of support, the incentives they created make it better for me to give them back their PTS for a bigger share of AGS that will be valuable if they succeed.

The only thing that's bullish for PTS is Invictus is releasing the products that were promised and are overdue.

We are all more or less, stuck on a boat. All of us followers of this particular decentralization idea, have our investments stuck, in what seems forever, and our returns depending on the actions of a single person.

This post is not for those of you that think: “That is GREAT”. This is for those who think ‘what can one do about it’. Posting here is a decent option, it may help. For the rest of us, there is a serious possibility that ‘Liquid AGS’ might be coming on the NXT platform. I do not expect such asset, to make liquid all of our (prior) AGS donations, but it might be a good way to invest in AGS in the future.  Just keep an eye for it.

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General Discussion / Re: MaidSafe IPO on Mastercoin
« on: May 16, 2014, 07:45:16 pm »
Come on Adam, give them a break, their flagship product is proving that people would   bet their money in attempt to appreciate, a piece of paper stating it is $1 virtual dollar, at $1. It will be a great success if they succeed no matter how much time/designing iterations /money/bullshit-ing  in the forums it takes.

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