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Quote from: abit on December 25, 2015, 11:10:53 amQuote from: Riverhead on December 24, 2015, 11:13:25 pmQuote from: clayop on December 24, 2015, 10:57:41 pmTech is the best IMO, but PR is very bad... Why doesn't BM travel the US and the world to spread the words of BitShares? Merry Christmas!Stan did a great job in China .So result in a pump from China? Or a new startup company based on bts System come from China?If I'm a startup , I would not put my business in something that it can be devalued overnight if some guy in another country stop working on it,or went on a month of traveling , or arrested by the US government . At best , I would fork one , or just use a centralized solution . I don't need some half-way decentralized solution that must be sustained by some certain individuals .If it's finished , then promote it as finished and act like it's finished . If not , why would I risk my business for some random people's grant experiment for mankind ? With blockchain , I don't need to trust anybody . Just need to trust some developer in the US that would finish it one day in a uncertain future. Business only need enough features and a finished product . They have no concern for mankind . They shouldn't risk their business for such cause, and wouldn't . I hate to burst some bubble . But that's how business choose a IT system . They're not speculators who wish to buy in before it has been proved .
Quote from: Riverhead on December 24, 2015, 11:13:25 pmQuote from: clayop on December 24, 2015, 10:57:41 pmTech is the best IMO, but PR is very bad... Why doesn't BM travel the US and the world to spread the words of BitShares? Merry Christmas!Stan did a great job in China .So result in a pump from China? Or a new startup company based on bts System come from China?
Quote from: clayop on December 24, 2015, 10:57:41 pmTech is the best IMO, but PR is very bad... Why doesn't BM travel the US and the world to spread the words of BitShares? Merry Christmas!Stan did a great job in China .
Tech is the best IMO, but PR is very bad... Why doesn't BM travel the US and the world to spread the words of BitShares? Merry Christmas!
One day, everyone who paid, everyone who held, everyone who worked, developed and built this platform will have something of value. There is already something of great value, an incredible community and an incredible blockchain platform. It's unfortunate that there have been casualties in order to get here. We've made mistakes and in our pursuit of overcoming funding issues and being at the bleeding edge of R&D, there are valued community members that have lost conviction and on the face of it, capital. I hope that we can regain their conviction or at the very least, return them to parity on their investment. For me, the risks are far outweighed by the potential benefits.....there is no other realistic competition to the current financial system and there is no other blockchain platform like BitShares. Let's not forget, Dan is the primary reason BitShares exists at all. He's inspired a dedicated and extraordinarily talented development team. He's inspired this community....one with proven resilience, remarkable dynamism and great integrity.I genuinely believe that the biggest existing issue is time. Time to get things right. We've got so much less to get right tomorrow than we had yesterday. This was never going to be easy but we can do it....we can realise a vision that empowers the entire human race.Merry Christams
Out of pure stupidity, naivety and masochism.Stupidity well that one is obvious.Naivety - for blindly believing for 2.5 years that BM has a great talent, intention and dedication to build the best financial system on the planet - when in reality as it is obvious now he s here just to get paid by diluting BTS while doing whatever new comes to his mind each week. The exchange and smartcoins part is now gone in favour of whatever new 'idea' he has... some mutual something I believe is the latest invention that will bring the bright future...for sure.Masochism - aside from greatly enjoying my investment fall 90%, while the leader of the project is enjoying his endless thought experiments. I also enjoy being lectured by someone that has no stake in the project how my financial loses are nothing according to him, while at the same time from his high horse he is teaching me which sacrifices he values and which he considers ridiculous complains... to say nothing the enjoyment it brings to be educated that "what makes dpos amazing is that it gives the community surrounding a project the ability to decide how to distribute their tokens. " anywaysMerry X-mas
Quote from: bytemaster on December 24, 2015, 11:42:42 pmI hold on because I believe in the cause and the pursuit of free market solutions to securing life, liberty, and property. We are constantly learning and improving. Crypto isn't currently ready for the main stream. No one has quite figured it out yet. Graphene and BitShares is an amazing foundation. We just need to keep focus on a higher purpose and not get caught up in "price". CNX is 110% behind BitShares and is dropping any and all distractions other than improving the BitShares ecosystem. The price , liquidity , gaining more capital and speculation so that BTA can be created and redeemed with real liquidity are also a important part of the BitShares eco-system . In fact , from the design of BTA , it's safe to assume that everything about it has a strong tie to the price and speculation . If people do not caught up in the price , then they don't form an opinion on long/short position , then no BTA market .
I hold on because I believe in the cause and the pursuit of free market solutions to securing life, liberty, and property. We are constantly learning and improving. Crypto isn't currently ready for the main stream. No one has quite figured it out yet. Graphene and BitShares is an amazing foundation. We just need to keep focus on a higher purpose and not get caught up in "price". CNX is 110% behind BitShares and is dropping any and all distractions other than improving the BitShares ecosystem.
Quote from: tonyk on December 25, 2015, 04:51:50 amQuote from: Stan on December 25, 2015, 03:37:46 amWe are light-years ahead of where we were 30 months ago....would we be as willing to start today as we were back before we had any of that?Uh, yeah...Merry Christmas everyone, we are just getting started.I know you are exited. You believe you have combined the money printing press with the ability to live in a lala land and spend the time dreaming of the virtual reality of only your own genius inventions all around.Unfortunately for you the price of BTS is not only the bell it is supposed to be [ringing and informing you of the sanity of your decisions as you make them], but also the limiting factor on the total craziness one [read you] is able to go. And it when it starts ringing - 'Nothing else financeable', 6-9 mo. from now I am sure you will hear it [or will not be able to deny it anyways].It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's what we know that ain't so.Will Rogers
Quote from: Stan on December 25, 2015, 03:37:46 amWe are light-years ahead of where we were 30 months ago....would we be as willing to start today as we were back before we had any of that?Uh, yeah...Merry Christmas everyone, we are just getting started.I know you are exited. You believe you have combined the money printing press with the ability to live in a lala land and spend the time dreaming of the virtual reality of only your own genius inventions all around.Unfortunately for you the price of BTS is not only the bell it is supposed to be [ringing and informing you of the sanity of your decisions as you make them], but also the limiting factor on the total craziness one [read you] is able to go. And it when it starts ringing - 'Nothing else financeable', 6-9 mo. from now I am sure you will hear it [or will not be able to deny it anyways].
We are light-years ahead of where we were 30 months ago....would we be as willing to start today as we were back before we had any of that?Uh, yeah...Merry Christmas everyone, we are just getting started.
Quote from: Riverhead on December 24, 2015, 11:13:25 pmQuote from: clayop on December 24, 2015, 10:57:41 pmTech is the best IMO, but PR is very bad... Why doesn't BM travel the US and the world to spread the words of BitShares? Merry Christmas!Stan did a great job in China .seriously? I don't want to say this but I have to tell you almost nobody in china care about Stan!
I am hodling because I understand the tech and know that there is not a single competitor having solved as many problems as graphene/bitshares.This tech is so amazing and the devs have put so much flexibility and imho people simply dont understand it yet ..
Quote from: bytemaster on December 24, 2015, 11:42:42 pmI hold on because I believe in the cause and the pursuit of free market solutions to securing life, liberty, and property. We are constantly learning and improving. Crypto isn't currently ready for the main stream. No one has quite figured it out yet. Graphene and BitShares is an amazing foundation. We just need to keep focus on a higher purpose and not get caught up in "price". CNX is 110% behind BitShares and is dropping any and all distractions other than improving the BitShares ecosystem. Great idea Dan!!! Invest your money in us and then do not pay too much attention to the price (i.e. your money).@onceuponatime I hope you are listing.... an ideology especially you should prepare yourself to believe in.
I remember the incredible sense of excitement I felt playing around in the cli for the first time after compiling the client. The combination of price-stable currencies, 10 second consensus, and anonymity was a revelation. It was like my own interface to an open-source version of swift or something - felt very dark-web and empowering.That excitement was probably matched by shock, when the community chose the "bts as equity rather than currency" model to continue funding itself. To me using inflation/dilution made us no better than central-banks and there was a loss of legitimacy. I never sold - but stopped investing at that point.
Quote from: abit on December 24, 2015, 05:01:02 pmQuote from: cass on December 24, 2015, 04:43:53 pmQuote from: speedy on December 24, 2015, 04:29:26 pmQuote from: cass on December 24, 2015, 04:22:53 pmwhy not? Cause i don't have any BTS to hold .. unfortunately i had to sell them over the past weeks to get some private related challenge solvedMan it sucks when the core devs dont have any stake in the project tbh yes, it's not the best motivation .. but i will publish a worker proposal soon..Good. And dump more. lol --- .. or stop contributing .. i don't know what's better choice for BTS .. stakeholder should decide it ..(and who says i will sell them, don't you think, as i'm contributing nearly 2.5 years now ... i'm not a believer?Maybe u are right, i will rethink my consideration again ... as i don't want to dump 1 BTS if possible ) Merry Xmas ...
Quote from: cass on December 24, 2015, 04:43:53 pmQuote from: speedy on December 24, 2015, 04:29:26 pmQuote from: cass on December 24, 2015, 04:22:53 pmwhy not? Cause i don't have any BTS to hold .. unfortunately i had to sell them over the past weeks to get some private related challenge solvedMan it sucks when the core devs dont have any stake in the project tbh yes, it's not the best motivation .. but i will publish a worker proposal soon..Good. And dump more.
Quote from: speedy on December 24, 2015, 04:29:26 pmQuote from: cass on December 24, 2015, 04:22:53 pmwhy not? Cause i don't have any BTS to hold .. unfortunately i had to sell them over the past weeks to get some private related challenge solvedMan it sucks when the core devs dont have any stake in the project tbh yes, it's not the best motivation .. but i will publish a worker proposal soon..
Quote from: cass on December 24, 2015, 04:22:53 pmwhy not? Cause i don't have any BTS to hold .. unfortunately i had to sell them over the past weeks to get some private related challenge solvedMan it sucks when the core devs dont have any stake in the project
why not? Cause i don't have any BTS to hold .. unfortunately i had to sell them over the past weeks to get some private related challenge solved
I'm here for the cause. Rather than just whining about the fed, or attempting to join the mafia with the hopes that we can change the mafia from within, BitShares is a direct attempt at competition. If we can make the bankers and the politicians redundant, then we will have won. I HODL, because of a wish for a better future. A future where people are free to meet each others needs, without the distortions, manipulations, and theft of our current system. I HODL out of care for my genes, and compassion for all mankind.