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Quote from: asenski on January 22, 2014, 10:19:11 amQuote from: bppsp1 on January 21, 2014, 10:10:17 pmThe calc math is roughly correct Id say.What I see is happening is quite simply LARGE pools "outluck" small pools on block hits.Think about it like this, if you had 90 people flipping coins on one side as a team and 10 people on the other side and the rule is that whichever side have the highest percentage of heads/tails then the 90 people flipping coins will in the vast majority totally dominate the 10 people flipping coins except if you got constant same difficulty and unlimited time then it will even out but it would take many many years if you ask me.That is not the reason. The small pool that only has 10 people also only splits the reward 10-way instead of 90-way.The only reason people join pools is if chance of finding a block is so far into the future that by then the difficulty could drastically change and they could mine for a month and end up with nothing.However with the HPM I have I could discover 7 blocks/day, I don't really need a pool.The whole logic of low hashrate pools will even out over time vs high hashrate pools is entirely flawed. This would be valid if we were talking about constant block rewards and constant same difficulty.The fact that block rewards gets reduce quite often and difficulty fluctuate quite often effectively will keep a low hashing pool at a disadvantage and lower earnings ALLWAYS because it will have much greater variance during difficulty/block reward periods.Low hashrate pool would need the hand of GOD to assist them if they want to actually reap the same earnings over time which realisticly just wont happen no matter how you try and slice it.This is unfortunate though, it would be great if all hashrates were balanced among pools for equal chance of getting blocks per difficulty/blockreward period but right now with Memorycoin the competition and interest is too low to sustain a fairly equal split across all the available pools.
Quote from: bppsp1 on January 21, 2014, 10:10:17 pmThe calc math is roughly correct Id say.What I see is happening is quite simply LARGE pools "outluck" small pools on block hits.Think about it like this, if you had 90 people flipping coins on one side as a team and 10 people on the other side and the rule is that whichever side have the highest percentage of heads/tails then the 90 people flipping coins will in the vast majority totally dominate the 10 people flipping coins except if you got constant same difficulty and unlimited time then it will even out but it would take many many years if you ask me.That is not the reason. The small pool that only has 10 people also only splits the reward 10-way instead of 90-way.The only reason people join pools is if chance of finding a block is so far into the future that by then the difficulty could drastically change and they could mine for a month and end up with nothing.However with the HPM I have I could discover 7 blocks/day, I don't really need a pool.
The calc math is roughly correct Id say.What I see is happening is quite simply LARGE pools "outluck" small pools on block hits.Think about it like this, if you had 90 people flipping coins on one side as a team and 10 people on the other side and the rule is that whichever side have the highest percentage of heads/tails then the 90 people flipping coins will in the vast majority totally dominate the 10 people flipping coins except if you got constant same difficulty and unlimited time then it will even out but it would take many many years if you ask me.
Hmm... I was showing 2800HPM, running 100 machines with 30HPM each showing in client. Now it's showing 1500HPM, that can't be right, I wonder if they switched to another server.
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Quote from: asenski on January 22, 2014, 03:31:02 pmI wonder if the other pools have the same vulnerability. No, they are not vulnerable.
I wonder if the other pools have the same vulnerability.
Quote from: trankil on January 21, 2014, 08:15:52 ami think you have a big big problem with your pooli put 75.33 HPM on it since yesterday and only 8MMC look at this http://dwarfpool.com/mmc/address?wallet=MLp3eb64YEs4H27dhLsLv5ViKUV1hLKRBgwith other pools we have 20 to 30 MMC by daysYou just got into the bad time when only few blocks have been found. Look at the diagram on the main page.For example http://dwarfpool.com/mmc/address?wallet=MDp6AbARFnh68S8jURM4T8WBWudY5caMPqWith similar capacity he came to the pool much earlier than you, and he's got the same number of coins during the same period that you.The number of coins do not depend on the time that you are on the pool, but on founded blocks in that time.Therefore the pool should be observed for a longer time. But even now from only a few founded blocks for the last bad 24 hours you've gathered 16-17 coins.Quote from: trankil on January 21, 2014, 02:24:44 pmNo answer of asenskiok we will move to an other pool again I already answered today "Statistic fixed"https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2419.msg30640#msg30640
i think you have a big big problem with your pooli put 75.33 HPM on it since yesterday and only 8MMC look at this http://dwarfpool.com/mmc/address?wallet=MLp3eb64YEs4H27dhLsLv5ViKUV1hLKRBgwith other pools we have 20 to 30 MMC by days
No answer of asenskiok we will move to an other pool again
I suspended the autopayment and the personal statistic in the table "Shares" because of founded small bug on the personal page.But the data in the table "Detailed shares" are always correct and actual, these are raw data.I'll correct it now, renew stat and make first payments manually.Thank you!
Nevermind, I think I get it - you are showing MORE stats than the other pools, including the blocks we were trying to solve but didn't, which results in "not found".
Do these shares still add up - the not found ones?
Any update on clearing up the stats page with regards to unconfirmed earnings etc. ?Call me sceptical but I want to first see these changes implemented before I point miners to dwarfpool, cant wait.
Award for block 8668 again to "MFH4DrpkfWWfFRvtdu6TJuT4D8txKAKM6b" ))
Atrides could you please respond to my query here : https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2290.15Thanks
How can we see our earnings on the pool ?