Quote from: Riverhead on February 21, 2016, 02:43:33 am

The free market will decide. That's one of the reasons it has the license it does.

I suppose you are right, but forking every time someone doesn't get their way sets a bad precedence for the future. Furthermore, simply talking about forking Bitshares is certain to negatively affect the price. I see all time lows for Bitshares in the near future, and I am glad I don't own any at the moment. Bytemaster's dilution-subsidized liquidity provisions will have less of a negative effect on the price than a Bitshares fork will.

I suggest implementing Tonyk's idea on the main Bitshares chain, or not implementing at all. Forking Bitshares is bad for both parties involved as it is unclear whether a fork of Bitshares will have sufficient liquidity to function as intended, and forking Bitshares is bad for Bitshares.

Doge was forked from Litecoin .
Muse was forked from BTS.
Play was forked from BTS.
BTS2.0 was forked from BTS1.0 .
Everyday people are forking .

don't include coin or shares.

Another question to ask is why CNX, who charges market rates for even minor bug fixes, is doing this for free?

It would be better to discover the motive now, instead of 3 months after the hardfork while everyone is pissed.

if any bug is introduced by this new function , it needs xxx man hours to fix it , then there is income .....

Quote from: btswildpig on February 17, 2016, 06:51:21 am

Quote from: CLains on February 17, 2016, 01:19:56 am

worker dilution is 99% irrelevant, how about everybody just stop selling for a goddamn second? BTS can easily jump up to 60 million if we'd just have some patience and a little faith. volume would increase as we move higher and whoever wants out would have an easy way out instead of these retarded 50k sellorders everywhere. we're already in an uptrend, just let it go where it wants to go already

how could other people stop selling when they see some account that they are so familiar with sells a lot ....... other people do need to put food on the table as well   

And who would that be? As far as I can tell none of the workers have sold any BTS, in fact most of their/our pay is still unclaimed.. Keep in mind this discussion is about workers, not about accounts BM says he does not actually control after all..

I'm just responding to "stop selling" part . Not necessary related to this thread .

I agree with a lot of your points about bitshares Wildpig, especially the empty promises of big deals or big pushes hurting and the uncertainty of it all. But what I don't see is why that doesn't apply to ethereum.

I get that ethereum is infinitely better at marketing and community building, but I can't find any reason for the sudden price jump. There are quite a few considerable risky issues and unsolved problems, that would have caused massive outroars on the side of bitshares users and shareholders. An unspecified and encertain move to POS, as far as I can tell remaining issues with solving bandwidth and centralization (especially since they seem to hate the solutions and ideas that have been implemented in bitshares). Last I looked the pricing of "gas" is not resolved, which is kinda important if you want to have your scripts running at the same cost.

So where is this sudden spike in confidence coming from, where I'm seeing no less issues than people see in bitshares. Is it me, or does it sound a little backward to first make a complicated system and then move it to a different blockchain? It might be just me, but the ethereum blockchain sounds a little more involved than a timestamped database and when they hand wave their plans to upgrade the entire thing without even an attempt at a governance system like in dpos, not only sounds technically difficult to me, but also very hard to get concensus on. Hell if it's so hard in bitshares with it's attempts at inbuilt voting, how will it work in ethereum?

All this does not invoke me with the same confidence in ethereum, that "the market" apparently is seeing. Btw, is this price increase actual, or can this be an orchestrated pump? I'm not trying to diss ethereum, but the only other jump I've seen like this was with the ripple-manipulation, so I'm no longer able to bring myself to buy into these kinds of jumps. The thing is, if ethereum crashes hard, I'm kinda worried it will have a bad effect on all the so called bitcoin2.0 projects.

Ethereum 's current price is obviously a pump . However , every crypto's marketcap is the result of a pump . BitShares' current marketcap is the result of 2013  Bitcoin pump that has brought up PTS  , Play and Muse's marketcap was the result of BitShares pump  .

What matters is , whether this is a one time pump . Bitcoin was obviously not , BBQ coin ish , is . And Ethereum , is too short to tell .

But if there is long term capital supporting Ethereum , it can crash to the earth and then climb back up again , just like Bitcoin's history cycle .


As for bitshares , I don't know what kind of long term capital would dare enough to position itself long term .

Bottom line , marketcap is the result of pumps and dumps . That's how a virtual crypto token that with a story but no actual usage went up as high as BitShares now .

Quote from: btswildpig on February 16, 2016, 05:29:28 am

When BTS has millions of dollars to waste on and the devs was paid handsomely and big things fake news came out frequently , BTS still didn't beat LTC . How do you explain that ?

Obviously LTC is a better coin! (LOL)

Quote from: btswildpig on February 16, 2016, 05:29:28 am

Doge market cap is multiple times of BTS with no development at all , how do you explain that ?

No development at all will give us a HUGE advandage against our "competitors" and also a higher market cap! LETS DO IT! (LOL 2.0)

Quote from: btswildpig on February 16, 2016, 05:29:28 am

Ethereum is crazy nowadays , with more features than BTC . But do you honestly believe Ethereum could have even a slight change of replacing Bitcoin's marketcap ?

Does this count as  YES?

Quote from: btswildpig on February 16, 2016, 05:29:28 am

At the end of the day , marketcap is not decided by features/codes/development , but the capitals willing to bet on it .

Yes, and at the end of the day all those coins with stagnant development will have a shitcoin's fate.

You simply forget one thing : Development can be copied in one second . Capitals can not . Dogecoin can have BitShares' feature by one click if in the future people do need features , and BitShares can't have Dogecoin's capital by one click .

I always buy in when Localhost and BM dumps     Then the price must go up for a short time . Nice trading signal .