There is www.blocktrades.us .. they were mentioned in the hangout.

We are coming on the scene strong soon also.. www.bunkerchainlabs.com

how is the datacenter business going

manner is very important .... pls calm down... Charles 's points make a lot of sense  ..  pay attention to what he said .... PTS was over 50 dollars while charles was with us ....

Quote from: Vizzini on January 16, 2016, 06:17:09 am

Oh, I can assure you that we DO see BitShares as a solution to Bitcoin's scaling problems. And its 1-hour confirmation times problems. And its governance problems. That's for starters. Amid the current controversies there, we have certainly used this as an opportunity to promote our solutions.

Two questions for you: First, if you don't see BitShares as part of the solution, then why do you bother posting here? Second, if you think BitShares and Etherum and other crypto-projects each offer something from which others can learn, perhaps puzzle pieces that fit together make up something greater, then why the hell don't you mention this in any of your writings?

If you want to bust bubble thinking, then how about helping your readers connect the dots just a bit?

really ?  50*6.2=300+ RMB . ...... The highest price for PTS was 200 RMB if I remembered correctly

I lost 20 IQ points reading the Cryptsy blog excuses. Sounds like a time to reintroduce BitShares to the crypto community.

it will have the same problem if it's IOU trading .

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why has every negative prediction about Bitcoin failed , including "pow is waste" ? 

because ....  Bitcoin is not about transaction time , cost  , etc . It's about the price/marketcap . When the price is high enough , people will find solution to go around that .  Gold production is toxic to the environment , and human still support gold because the cost will also be enormous otherwise .

I'll say this . Bitcoin as a crypto may never fail , because it's a perfect object for capital . And capital always beats words and text and logical reasons .

(Woman pay high price for a handbag is weird and il-logical , but who cares ? capital already convinced  them they should have one . )

"Bitcoin has no future whilst it’s controlled by fewer than 10 people."

Quote from: btswildpig on January 14, 2016, 02:48:33 am

be practical . Not a lot of Chinese people will like to be exposed to a crypto token that's rely on several people(I'm referring to those who give people the impression that if they walk away and BTS will go to zero ) to keep it running  , or lack of liquidity .
It's a fun experiment . 

Soooo when it's about Bitshares, the core devs are a problem and nobody wants to be exposed. When it's about Bitcoin though, the core devs don't matter.. all the problems don't matter.. its perfect object for capital.. whatever that means.

you'll know what it means when BTS has 0.00001 second conformation time while people still choose to hold bitcoin regardless of how many flaw it has .

bitcoin devs don't matter because bitcoin's value was never coming from the development . It come from the capital .  The capital picked up a software/protocol and convinced people that's gold .

"Hot money follows hot investments until it doesn't"

What you are describing is the formation of a bubble... bubble can last for a long time, but they all end eventually.  Then that hot money has to search for a new bubble to blow (here's to hoping its BTS).

Not necessary about bubble .

same way they convinced you that a stone call diamond is the symbol for long last love .  (diamond is crap , small , useless in real world , and its production is bloody . more flaw than bitcoin ) .

And you can expect from a potentially long future , diamond will still be valuable  . 

why has every negative prediction about Bitcoin failed , including "pow is waste" ? 

because ....  Bitcoin is not about transaction time , cost  , etc . It's about the price/marketcap . When the price is high enough , people will find solution to go around that .  Gold production is toxic to the environment , and human still support gold because the cost will also be enormous otherwise .

I'll say this . Bitcoin as a crypto may never fail , because it's a perfect object for capital . And capital always beats words and text and logical reasons .

(Woman pay high price for a handbag is weird and il-logical , but who cares ? capital already convinced  them they should have one . )

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Congrats 

I think there could be a good market for TCNY/TUSD this year?

CNY is 4% weaker vs. USD in the last 2-3 months.

If that trend continues a lot of Chinese people would really like exposure to TUSD?

be practical . Not a lot of Chinese people will like to be exposed to a crypto token that's rely on several people(I'm referring to those who give people the impression that if they walk away and BTS will go to zero ) to keep it running  , or lack of liquidity .
It's a fun experiment . 
I would rather expose myself to cold hard USD cash .

Except there's an annual limit of $50 000 which may go even lower if Yuan devaluation continues.

I don't know if you can view the link but there was an article last week that said that some people in China are even buying expensive .com domains as a way to move money from CNY to USD.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-05/heres-ultra-clever-way-chinese-are-circumventing-capital-controls

This is very complicated and risky in terms of getting value back. I think a good TUSD may be better by comparison.

Most Chinese people couldn't earn 50000 USD a year .

True. But the top 1% of Chinese households  (15-30 million people) have an average net worth of $1.6 million

If a lot of their wealth is in Yuan denominated assets (Property, Chinese Stocks, other...) they will want to move more than $50k into USD/other if the Yuan is rapidly depreciating.

and you think those rich folks have nothing better than a crypto platform that only has hundreds of real users to divest their wealth , including using other people's quota ?
that's what i mean about being practical . you can only attract those who you can afford to attract .

Whose idea was it to use the word dilution? Block Reward sounds much less sinister.

you need to buy a mining machine to get block reward . and risk a lot financially .  The buying pressure and selling pressure will be balanced in an amount of time . People produce new coins based on market movement . If the price is too low , they rather stop producing because it will lose money , hence new balance achieved .

But you just need to come up with a new big idea to get dilution . People product new coins simply based on how many they think they need at the market price they need . It's not economically balanced .