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General Discussion / Re: PTS - the insane gift that keeps on giving!
« on: December 24, 2014, 03:55:18 pm »
As I stated before the so called DPOS PTS snapshot , this blurry attitude from I3 towards PTS post 11.05 would turn into a PR problem  . I just didn't see this problem come from the western side first . ( Hate to say I told you so , guys , but I did . )

And I've so busy with the network problem these few weeks , so I didn't really have time to keep track of the snapshot news for Devshares and missed the whole allocation issue .

Is the chinese community also upset with PTS being included in the snapshots?

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General Discussion / Re: PTS - the insane gift that keeps on giving!
« on: December 24, 2014, 03:32:41 pm »
I strongly support dropping DVS on PTS, and I will downvote any delegate that rejects the PTS sharedrop.

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PTS should technically have died. We bought them out by giving them shares in BTS during the merger. That should have been the end.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Developer delegate: dev.bitsharesblocks
« on: December 24, 2014, 01:32:43 pm »
I found an error on bitsharesblocks. When you go to "assets" and click on an asset it shows Buy BitBTS, Sell BitBTS, Short BitBTS instead of the actual asset.

http://bitsharesblocks.com/assets/asset?id=USD

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General Discussion / Re: PTS - the insane gift that keeps on giving!
« on: December 24, 2014, 01:28:51 pm »
To give an example of how negative it is for our community that PTS continues existing, the chinese translation of the official newsletter has decided to completely censor this because they know how terrible PR it is that circumstances once again are going to change.

The new PTS is a competitor to the bitshares community itself. It's not like PLAY or MUSIC, it is like NXT. It should not gain any official recognition or support by bitshares delegates, just like NXT doesn't get this.

There's no evidence that PTS gives good PR to BTS. On the contrary it's pretty clear that it's a sore thumb that pisses off a lot of people in this community, and once again, shouldn't be recognized the same way NXT recognized.

Sharedropping DVS to PTS/AGS post-buyout was just a terrible idea that was obviously bad for bitshares and i wish the bitshares delegates in charge of that decision will assure the community bad decisions like that won't happen again.


 +5% Well said. PTS is a threat to the BTS brand and is causing brand confusion. It is splitting up our community and dividing our network effect between 2 DPOS systems. Investors are ticked off on how much special treatment PTS is getting even though we already bought them out!

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General Discussion / Re: Paycoin - Joining GoCoin
« on: December 23, 2014, 03:53:54 pm »
What are "high risk merchants"?

Marijuana dealers in Colorado, adult industry, some subscription services, and merchants who are at a "high risk" for charge backs.

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General Discussion / Re: New Blog Post: BitShares Login
« on: December 23, 2014, 03:26:17 pm »
 +5% Good read. What about a post on "The value of BitShares"? An informative post on what investors are investing in (beyond just an exchange) and why BTS is valuable would be good.

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General Discussion / Re: PTS - the insane gift that keeps on giving!
« on: December 23, 2014, 02:13:33 pm »
I still have doubts that third parties will be so willing to sharedrop on either BTS or PTS

Well, Devshares just got 33%

Yea, that's also pretty ridiculous. Why exactly did BTS buy out PTS and AGS if it's going to continue giving them pieces of the BitShares pie? Makes no goddamn sense.

 +5% I agree. It is crazy. In the real world when a company gets bought out that is it, the new company owns it! Everyone holding PTS was more then fairly compensated for their investment. Now it is time to just do a 100% sharedrop on BTS as we are all in this together now because of the merger.

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General Discussion / Re: PTS - the insane gift that keeps on giving!
« on: December 23, 2014, 01:39:07 pm »
This is a sarcastic attempt at saying PTS is still getting unfair rewards after they diluted BTS 25%.

I fully agree, PTS and AGS should not exist anymore. We paid millions of dollars for their features to be rolled into BTS. Its simply not fair that they continue to get sharedrops, unless we also take the diluted 25% back.

But isn't that exactly the beauty of a free market solution? Third parties are free to allocate in a way that they feel brings the most value for their system. And if that includes AGS/PTS then great, so be it. Why don't you go ahead and invest in PTS then?
And if BTS brings more advantages as an airdrop target than PTS, then free market will figure it out either ways.

My problem is that dan, stan and others who have a fiduciary duty to BTS holders are promoting them, and that this board still has a PTS subforum. In the eyes of BTS holders, PTS should no longer exist. We paid explicitly to buy them out, and they should not get any support from the BTS community. If they still want to be the official bitshares sharedrop DAC, then the 25% dilution of our money that they received should be revoked.

 +5% +5% +5%

PTS was bought out by BTS and they also got there PTS returned. It ticks me off that they keep getting benefits after the merger.

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General Discussion / Re: New Blog Post - Join the BitShares Community!
« on: December 22, 2014, 08:26:46 pm »
 +5% Great post Bytemaster :) You hit on some really key points and the post is very newbie friendly.

I think this is a good place for us to point new users so they know how they can get involved in the community and why.

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DevShares / Re: How to increase the value of Devshares
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:07:11 pm »
Dev shares need to have NO value at all. Otherwise people will just hoard them and not test on the platform because they have/may have "value". Nobody will test the network if they have a chance of losing the shares through experimentation .

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In other news: 50 Cent reveals $78 million underwear deal with FRIGO

PnD alts are just mutants in our local CMC pond you guys,
2015 is the year we find the real monsters..

50 is a real hustler :) Good for him! 78 million from underwear. That is almost 2x our market cap! LOL

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General Discussion / Re: [DAC Proposal] Anything On-Demand - Genie
« on: December 22, 2014, 12:25:06 am »
I suppose you could say it has some vending machine type features but what I'm describing if you must call it a vending machine is a universal vending machine. Any demand which can be expressed can be pursued by your bots/drones/autonomous agent AI. Any supply which can be met by any business, autonomous agent AI, human being, will work.

So if on your wish list you demand a snickers bar then the autonomous agent AI would search the web for places which sell snickers bars and proceed to buy it. It would also be able to leave traces or trails which would be like hash tags for other autonomous agent AI to pick up so that businesses which supply the DAC will be able to pick up your demand basket via the hash tag.

So that means your autonomous agent AI could make trades via Twitter, Facebook, Skype, the telephone or whatever as long as the autonomous agent AI on the other end can interpret the machine language. This means if you wanted to buy an island you could do so if someone who has an island is willing to supply your demand. Your autonomous agent AI would negotiate the trade with their autonomous agent AI.

It is an interesting idea. It honestly sounds a bit far fetched and sci fi to me. Could be difficult to implement and get the network of users and agents.

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Constantly floored by the level of bullshit that most cryptos are willing to construct in order to effect their perception of value. 

More and more I realize that bitshares really is one of a very few legitimate projects out there.  Sadly, the masses are easily swayed by such dishonest tactics and so many will lose their asses.

Maybe we should set up a delegate to pay out to those who have been screwed over by illegitimate coins in some way.  Not entirely sure how that would look though...

That is a REALLY bad idea.

Yeah, because how would you prove that they actually lost money? People would take advantage of this.

thus the "Not entirely sure how this would work though" part.  :)
It is obvious people could scam it if done incorrectly...only question is--IS there a right way to do something like this?

The other question is "should someone bail out investors who lost money?" Sounds familiar to the government/bank relationship imo. Providing a safety net for recklessness could be problematic.

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Keep upvoting guys:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2q073j/blockchain_user_issued_assets_will_change/

We really need more people to become aware of Bitshares and this is a great way to do it!

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Constantly floored by the level of bullshit that most cryptos are willing to construct in order to effect their perception of value. 

More and more I realize that bitshares really is one of a very few legitimate projects out there.  Sadly, the masses are easily swayed by such dishonest tactics and so many will lose their asses.

Maybe we should set up a delegate to pay out to those who have been screwed over by illegitimate coins in some way.  Not entirely sure how that would look though...

That is a REALLY bad idea.

Yeah, because how would you prove that they actually lost money? People would take advantage of this.

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