C:\Users\Milos>ping bitshares.rossul.com
Ping request could not find host bitshares.rossul.com. Please check the name and try again.
Removed DNS entry ? Hope it was not 'cause of my reply, I've just raised some normal points/questions.
RECORDING: Hangout #81
Worker proposal explained
https://youtu.be/N-kmI8WX4lI?t=31m21s
Welcome!
web/ui review analysis
http://bitshares.rossul.com/
- You have 7 images that are resized through html or css, instead of pre-scaling them. *Probably done in a rush during deliver, i completely understand - nothing bad
- 22 images needs optimization (around 250kb+ can be saved)
- Leverage browser caching on hosting is missing.
- Expiry Headers ?
- It's good practice to minify css and js for the production stage
Overall: 1.4s load, 1.77MB Total Load, 42 Requests (single page?) - Testing done from Vancouver, Canada, by GTMetrix.
Google PageScore - ... F
YahooSlow - Lower C
Thanks,
Now missing part:
1. Based on what ground you did price estimate of entire project, including design and implementations with API and new functionality (that is still unknown) to the penny and what rates you've been applying (hourly, corporate predefined rates, etc...) ?
2. "Transfer an existing project", could you please elaborate more on this item ?
3. Can we see example of "Documentation preparing and process" you've done for previous clients that costs 25200 USD ? Any REAL example of your portfolio ?
4. I heard question from Fuzzy can you list one of those "New functionalities", but actually failed to catch any of it prepared ?
5. at the cost of ~51k USD a month fixed, and 4.5 months duration of this project, how much time you plan to invest in :
a) research and interviews
b) documentation and build markup
c) design
d) Actual implementation of everything from a), b) and c).
Thanks.
@Digital Lucifer
Hi and thank you for your review and comments.
Re: Outdated Job Manager plugin – thanks for noticing. I've forwarded your comments to our developers.
Re: Rates. At ROSSUL we never work on an hourly basis for multiple reasons, we believe it is much easier for our clients to know exactly what they are going to pay for a solution to their problem. Therefore we do not quote based on how many screens need designing, or how much time we spend on crafting the solution. If the scope is not changed during the project the quote doesn't change.
Re: "Documentation preparing and process". The initial phase is the Research Phase that we need to discuss and set up success criteria and metrics, we need to research and create user personas to know who we design for,their goals, and mental models. We need to interview and analyze the responses of the stakeholders and ensure we are all on the same page with aligned expectation and goals. That includes all team members on our side too. The outcome of this phase: Goals and Metrics documents, Persona files, compiled stakeholder feedback, High-level functional specs, etc. Unfortunately, we cannot publish research documents publicly because of strict NDAs. We design commercial products and most of them are not available to the public. The financial industry is very sensitive in that respect as you know.
Re: Time allocation. Roughly, the research phase will take about 1/4 of the design time. 2/4 go into workflows and wireframing. 1/4 goes into skin design.
We'll be publishing more info as we receive more questions. Probably here or on Steemit.
Thanks again for your interest and questions.
ROSSUL
* re Discussion/Research - as being supported by Rudex who is active part of this community as gateway, 3rd party exchange, development team, UI FORK of BitShares and a paid block producer, i fail to see why you have to do research and collect funds from the blockchain for the knowledge already available right here on this forum (public opinions, feedback on UI), Rudex who is very reliable and rich resource of knowledge and not to mention github for UI team and all the issues opened there.
Will there be a English version?
Can you please discuss the very issue of Stealth that is actually important, namely that it benefits mostly STEALTH holders, and not BTS holders?
I have pointed that out couple days after your proposal has been posted.
Can you please discuss the very issue of Stealth that is actually important, namely that it benefits mostly STEALTH holders, and not BTS holders?
I have pointed that out couple days after your proposal has been posted.
this feature (https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-core/wiki/StealthTransfers) is not the main priority of UX/UI worker is an example of what can be implemented if community want so
if it doesn't, no drama
@ xeroc
Thanks for your insterest!
* We are discussing escrow optoins. Will update you as soon as we have all the details.
* There shoud no be duplicated efforts of course. We offer to redesign and code a new UI. Once it is launched the current UI should be retired and the maintenece resourse should be directed toward the new UI. UX is a continious effort and. Good eamples are FB, Google, etc that push updates and tweeks to their products bi-weekly.
* We will research user types, their behavour, worflows and features they use. That woul allow us to design a product that serves well all user types, simple for casual users and yet powerful for the advanced and pro audience.
Best,
ROSSUL TEAM
* There shoud no be duplicated efforts of course. We offer to redesign and code a new UI. Once it is launched the current UI should be retired and the maintenece resourse should be directed toward the new UI. ...
This proposal aims to launch the UI at the end of the proposal? Will it then already be feature-complete?
Do you plan to continuously maintain the codebase afterwards?
* There shoud no be duplicated efforts of course. We offer to redesign and code a new UI. Once it is launched the current UI should be retired and the maintenece resourse should be directed toward the new UI. ...
Define "launch"? By saying "current UI should be retired", you mean the wallet.bitshares.org one? So your new product will contain all features included in "current UI"? I'm afraid it's too much work for you in such a short time. IMHO even if the new UI will replace the current UI in the future (to be hosted on wallet.bitshares.org), the two UI need to live simultaneously for a period (host the new UI in a new domain name), thus give us time to move features to new UI step by step. Not to mention that we probably need a way for users to migrate backups if the backup methods are different.
This worker proposal looks great, but I hope this worker and the bitshares-ui worker proposal teams can collaborate rather than duplicate work efforts?
@ xerocAny update about the escrow, please?
Thanks for your insterest!
* We are discussing escrow optoins. Will update you as soon as we have all the details.
* There shoud no be duplicated efforts of course. We offer to redesign and code a new UI. Once it is launched the current UI should be retired and the maintenece resourse should be directed toward the new UI. UX is a continious effort and. Good eamples are FB, Google, etc that push updates and tweeks to their products bi-weekly.
* We will research user types, their behavour, worflows and features they use. That woul allow us to design a product that serves well all user types, simple for casual users and yet powerful for the advanced and pro audience.
Best,
ROSSUL TEAM
Any update about the escrow, please?
Any update about the escrow, please?
Initially, we planned to work through the BLCKCHND team, but now we are discussing the possibility to launch a worker through the BBF. We already wrote them and are waiting for an answer to discuss possible cooperation options
BBF mustn't be the only choice, and also shouldn't be.This!
No one seeks to have only one centralized escrow. It is merely one (afaik the only one) that offers auditable bitUSD worker escrow and is the voted spokesperson, aka has the BTS holders trust.
Has BLCKCHND introduced themselves as an escrow? You can also consider asking trusted members of the community.
How is the worker proposal going?No news so far
Is this up to date? http://bitshares-ui-master.test.graphenelab.io
Public working repository is https://bitbucket.org/graphenelab/bitshares/src/master/No real progress has been seen
It has been two months since the last report was released.
What is the status of the project now?
Denis B: "Hi! I apologize for not answering for so long. At the moment we are preparing a version for mobile and tablets, as well as a dark version. After that, everyone will be able to try the new Bitshares interface on the mainnet and offer their improvements / suggestions :) wait for the news next week!"
A helper proposal has just been published
https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2018-09-rossul-ui-helper