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Delegate Proposal: media-delegate
merlin0113:
--- Quote from: btswildpig on December 14, 2014, 09:11:40 am ---
--- Quote from: gamey on December 14, 2014, 08:58:00 am ---
--- Quote from: btswildpig on December 14, 2014, 07:26:21 am ---
--- Quote from: onceuponatime on December 14, 2014, 04:57:33 am ---
--- Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on December 14, 2014, 04:36:09 am ---We have already had a 100% payrate delegate---Methox, why don't you join his team and prove your ability first.
Before Methox can prove that marketing can indeed bring some value to BTS, I don't think we need more marketing delegates.
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Have you been following Nullstreet? There is enormous organizing and promotional work going on there. And it is all transparent and being done entirely on a voluntary basis so far, I guess you haven't been there or you would know. Check it out and just think what could happen with a few funded marketing delegates.
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RippleXiaoShan is on Nullstreet from day 1 .
He has been doing these similar things for the community and help marketing effort in China since last year .
But he just didn't specifically document it so it's hard for people to sum up his contribution in 1 minute . And trust me , he has been doing more than what Nullstreet is doing . So he is totally qualified to comment on the Nullstreet effort .
It's good to know that Nullstreets are making progress , but it's also important to realize it's too early to comparing Nullstreet's effort to other channels , because marketing is just not that simple . Those who hasn't record their effort in detail maybe just because it's not their style .
Of course , I also shared some concerns about the Brian team . But it would be wrong to make a comparison base on two different type of operations , because it's just wrong to judge a book by its cover . The real marketing effort should be about how the world sees us instead of us assuming "how much we've done so far , just look at it on the list " .
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There is a large gap between English and Chinese speakers.
It is not productive to compare the 2.
What is productive is to find where spent funds do not have a positive value and remove those leaks while adding marketing that has positive value!!
People should rally around that instead of any fake East/West division that solely exists due to communication failures.
Lets please keep this in mind!!!! We need effective Chinese marketers just as much,
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wait , I'm not talking about Chinese and Western .
I'm talking about the Brian-liked style (vague , not detailed oriented)and the Nullstreet style (specific , list oriented ) and how often people confuse to think there is one better than the other . I just used the Chinese member as a example to show he knows what he's talking about because he was doing the same thing since last year but just didn't detailed enough to describe it .
Because whenever people question the effort on Nullstreet , some people just tent to ask them to read the list of what they're doing , and think that it's just enough to stop commenting .
Also , the only reason the word "Chinese" was brought up in the first because onceuponatime seems to think RippleXiaoshan was just commenting blindly without appreciating the effort on Nullstreet , so I just offer his background to show onceuponatime that RippleXiaoshan did not comment blindly .
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Like I said the other day in qq group, wildpig you might post in a bit more soft way. The better. Ur point is being made well, that's a good thing though.
btswildpig:
--- Quote from: gamey on December 14, 2014, 08:58:00 am ---
--- Quote from: btswildpig on December 14, 2014, 07:26:21 am ---
--- Quote from: onceuponatime on December 14, 2014, 04:57:33 am ---
--- Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on December 14, 2014, 04:36:09 am ---We have already had a 100% payrate delegate---Methox, why don't you join his team and prove your ability first.
Before Methox can prove that marketing can indeed bring some value to BTS, I don't think we need more marketing delegates.
--- End quote ---
Have you been following Nullstreet? There is enormous organizing and promotional work going on there. And it is all transparent and being done entirely on a voluntary basis so far, I guess you haven't been there or you would know. Check it out and just think what could happen with a few funded marketing delegates.
--- End quote ---
RippleXiaoShan is on Nullstreet from day 1 .
He has been doing these similar things for the community and help marketing effort in China since last year .
But he just didn't specifically document it so it's hard for people to sum up his contribution in 1 minute . And trust me , he has been doing more than what Nullstreet is doing . So he is totally qualified to comment on the Nullstreet effort .
It's good to know that Nullstreets are making progress , but it's also important to realize it's too early to comparing Nullstreet's effort to other channels , because marketing is just not that simple . Those who hasn't record their effort in detail maybe just because it's not their style .
Of course , I also shared some concerns about the Brian team . But it would be wrong to make a comparison base on two different type of operations , because it's just wrong to judge a book by its cover . The real marketing effort should be about how the world sees us instead of us assuming "how much we've done so far , just look at it on the list " .
--- End quote ---
There is a large gap between English and Chinese speakers.
It is not productive to compare the 2.
What is productive is to find where spent funds do not have a positive value and remove those leaks while adding marketing that has positive value!!
People should rally around that instead of any fake East/West division that solely exists due to communication failures.
Lets please keep this in mind!!!! We need effective Chinese marketers just as much,
--- End quote ---
wait , I'm not talking about Chinese and Western .
I'm talking about the Brian-liked style (vague , not detailed oriented)and the Nullstreet style (specific , list oriented ) and how often people confuse to think there is one better than the other . I just used the Chinese member as a example to show he knows what he's talking about because he was doing the same thing since last year but just didn't detailed enough to describe it .
Because whenever people question the effort on Nullstreet , some people just tent to ask them to read the list of what they're doing , and think that it's just enough to stop commenting .
Also , the only reason the word "Chinese" was brought up in the first because onceuponatime seems to think RippleXiaoshan was just commenting blindly without appreciating the effort on Nullstreet , so I just offer his background to show onceuponatime that RippleXiaoshan did not comment blindly .
gamey:
--- Quote from: btswildpig on December 14, 2014, 07:26:21 am ---
--- Quote from: onceuponatime on December 14, 2014, 04:57:33 am ---
--- Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on December 14, 2014, 04:36:09 am ---We have already had a 100% payrate delegate---Methox, why don't you join his team and prove your ability first.
Before Methox can prove that marketing can indeed bring some value to BTS, I don't think we need more marketing delegates.
--- End quote ---
Have you been following Nullstreet? There is enormous organizing and promotional work going on there. And it is all transparent and being done entirely on a voluntary basis so far, I guess you haven't been there or you would know. Check it out and just think what could happen with a few funded marketing delegates.
--- End quote ---
RippleXiaoShan is on Nullstreet from day 1 .
He has been doing these similar things for the community and help marketing effort in China since last year .
But he just didn't specifically document it so it's hard for people to sum up his contribution in 1 minute . And trust me , he has been doing more than what Nullstreet is doing . So he is totally qualified to comment on the Nullstreet effort .
It's good to know that Nullstreets are making progress , but it's also important to realize it's too early to comparing Nullstreet's effort to other channels , because marketing is just not that simple . Those who hasn't record their effort in detail maybe just because it's not their style .
Of course , I also shared some concerns about the Brian team . But it would be wrong to make a comparison base on two different type of operations , because it's just wrong to judge a book by its cover . The real marketing effort should be about how the world sees us instead of us assuming "how much we've done so far , just look at it on the list " .
--- End quote ---
There is a large gap between English and Chinese speakers.
It is not productive to compare the 2.
What is productive is to find where spent funds do not have a positive value and remove those leaks while adding marketing that has positive value!!
People should rally around that instead of any fake East/West division that solely exists due to communication failures.
Lets please keep this in mind!!!! We need effective Chinese marketers just as much,
btswildpig:
--- Quote from: onceuponatime on December 14, 2014, 04:57:33 am ---
--- Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on December 14, 2014, 04:36:09 am ---We have already had a 100% payrate delegate---Methox, why don't you join his team and prove your ability first.
Before Methox can prove that marketing can indeed bring some value to BTS, I don't think we need more marketing delegates.
--- End quote ---
Have you been following Nullstreet? There is enormous organizing and promotional work going on there. And it is all transparent and being done entirely on a voluntary basis so far, I guess you haven't been there or you would know. Check it out and just think what could happen with a few funded marketing delegates.
--- End quote ---
RippleXiaoShan is on Nullstreet from day 1 .
He has been doing these similar things for the community and help marketing effort in China since last year .
But he just didn't specifically document it so it's hard for people to sum up his contribution in 1 minute . And trust me , he has been doing more than what Nullstreet is doing . So he is totally qualified to comment on the Nullstreet effort .
It's good to know that Nullstreets are making progress , but it's also important to realize it's too early to comparing Nullstreet's effort to other channels , because marketing is just not that simple . Those who hasn't record their effort in detail maybe just because it's not their style .
Of course , I also shared some concerns about the Brian team . But it would be wrong to make a comparison base on two different type of operations , because it's just wrong to judge a book by its cover . The real marketing effort should be about how the world sees us instead of us assuming "how much we've done so far , just look at it on the list " .
onceuponatime:
--- Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on December 14, 2014, 04:36:09 am ---We have already had a 100% payrate delegate---Methox, why don't you join his team and prove your ability first.
Before Methox can prove that marketing can indeed bring some value to BTS, I don't think we need more marketing delegates.
--- End quote ---
Have you been following Nullstreet? There is enormous organizing and promotional work going on there. And it is all transparent and being done entirely on a voluntary basis so far, I guess you haven't been there or you would know. Check it out and just think what could happen with a few funded marketing delegates.
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