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Technical Support / Re: Found protoshares wallet from 2014
« on: August 02, 2019, 05:20:32 pm »
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 Finally got everything working ! Total BTS shows about 18,000. Not bad for just mining proshares back in the day for a little while. I just looked up the price of BTS back during the 2017/18 bullrun..jesus christ I want to vomit lol. I can't believe I didn't look into this harder back during the bullrun when I was searching all my old usb drives for coins that I use to mine. I sold every other coin at the time but now I remember why I never messed with the protoshares wallet b/c there was so many steps to getting these into BTS so I just skipped it.

Is BTS still a legit project or would it be wise to just sell what I have now? I mean if this project is still ongoing and has a future, there is no point of me selling now, I may as well just hold them another 5 years or so.

BTS is still ongoing (don't take that as investment advice, disclaimer disclaimer), with a pretty active community and these nice self-funding mechanisms.

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A low CR becomes a problem, when there are not enough debt asset holder, who buy up the bad debt before CR hits 1.

The settlement protection fund combined with a variable MCR and MSSR, should be the best solution to this problem. 
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/182

We will be looking into solutions like these.

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There was no consensus within Cn-vote, but we started voting.

Thanks! Let me know if there is anything I can do to help the community come to a decision.

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Greetings Alex, is this still on track? I just submitted a draft of a research paper for the academic track. If it's accepted by the conference, I'll plan to try to travel over there to give a talk on the research as long as my research worker proposal has been funded sufficiently by then to support a long-term project.

If it happens that I don't have sufficient levels of project funding by then but my paper is accepted anyway, will your worker be able to reimburse my travel to Greece for this? If so, the final published version of the paper would still reference BitShares as the source of funds for the work, if that's any concern to you.

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Technical Support / Re: Found protoshares wallet from 2014
« on: July 29, 2019, 09:31:56 pm »
I have finished step 4..however on step 5, it says to create a account on the bitshares 2.0... I downloaded it but when I am going to create an account, I keep getting this error " failed to create an account, faucet cannot create the account you are trying to obtain. Anyone have some links or tutorials that are still good?

I went through this process with my brother a couple years ago, and you should be past the hard part. What account name are you trying to use for bitshares 2.0? Faucets have some restrictions on them.

How many BTS did the 3000 PTS give you, I'm curious? I have a vague memory of 3000 PTS being a fairly large amount. But maybe that's just evidence that I was fairly poor back then...

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy: dls.cipher
« on: July 29, 2019, 05:42:49 pm »
Also, though you didn't mention it in your list of workers above, thanks for your support of the university research project! I snooped your account on an explorer and notice you are in fact voting for it.

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The main message of this paper will be that the specific choice of MCR and MSSR can have some strong and surprising effects on the risky behavior of BitAsset shorts (collateral holders), and that a small change in MCR can have a massive effect on the likelihood of a short position becoming undercollateralized. For example, I have one set of simulations that shows that changing the MCR from 1.6 to 1.5 can make undercollateralization 134 times more likely. Now, I'll point out that this doesn't mean I'm going to panic and immediately write a BSIP to argue for MCRs of 1.6; instead, it motivates me to look deeper into this phenomenon and start to understand how we can protect against it without harming liquidity and pegging. As many will be quick to point out, there is certainly a tradeoff involved here: reducing MCR from 1.6 to 1.5 may make the BitAsset less risky, but it will also make people more willing to provide collateral for it, which should improve price pegging. Understanding how to balance these tradeoffs wisely is a major focus of this project.


voted, very interested in how the simulation is done and what further conclusion is reached.

Thanks much for your support! I'm working on the paper today, and I'll provide a PDF of it to the community after it's been submitted to the conference in a few days.

Just to be clear and set your expectations appropriately, this first paper is analyzing a very simple model that isn't meant to capture all of the details of the bitshares system. The first step in a project like this is to analyze a simplified model, find where problems arise, and then use that to guide further questions. Basically, if we find warning signs looking at a simplified model, we expect that adding in the complexities of the real thing could make those problems even worse.

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I'm well under way generating preliminary results for the potential Decentralized 2019 paper. If all goes well, this may be the first publication resulting from this project, and will pose several of the important questions that we will focus on.

The main message of this paper will be that the specific choice of MCR and MSSR can have some strong and surprising effects on the risky behavior of BitAsset shorts (collateral holders), and that a small change in MCR can have a massive effect on the likelihood of a short position becoming undercollateralized. For example, I have one set of simulations that shows that changing the MCR from 1.6 to 1.5 can make undercollateralization 134 times more likely. Now, I'll point out that this doesn't mean I'm going to panic and immediately write a BSIP to argue for MCRs of 1.6; instead, it motivates me to look deeper into this phenomenon and start to understand how we can protect against it without harming liquidity and pegging. As many will be quick to point out, there is certainly a tradeoff involved here: reducing MCR from 1.6 to 1.5 may make the BitAsset less risky, but it will also make people more willing to provide collateral for it, which should improve price pegging. Understanding how to balance these tradeoffs wisely is a major focus of this project.

To support our work, please speak with your proxy and ask them to vote for worker 1.14.204, "201907-uccs-research-project."

Many thanks to the proxies who are currently voting for our proposal:
  • evangelist-of-bts
  • openledger
  • xeroc
  • bitcrab
  • beos
  • clockwork
  • fractalnode
  • abit
  • bitshareseurope
  • bitspark-delegate
  • dls.cipher

Edit: added a couple more witnesses 7/29/2019

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy:B-DEX
« on: July 23, 2019, 08:48:22 pm »
I downvoted early today bitspark as committee when reading the past days his reckless opinion.
We had just an argument that he would let the GS on USD happen and that he thinks we shouldn't defend the bad debt holders as it's their own fault.

I got mad because the GS Protection was voted in to give borrowers a safer feeling of taking debt and also because i don't want to lose a part of the community again.

Understanding and implementing undercollateralization protection in a way that does not involve GS will be one of the main focuses of my university research project. Obviously there are a lot of difficult tradeoffs to consider (liquidity versus accurate pegging versus strict collateral requirements) and my goal with the project is to take a comprehensive view of the problem and develop a framework that lets us optimize the tradeoffs. Would you consider supporting with your vote for worker 1.14.204?

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General Discussion / Re: New BSIP:GS protection via core code
« on: July 19, 2019, 06:36:49 pm »
The market will run as your thought? en,that's very interesting.

How about we just increase MSSR to to least 5%? Margin calls will be bought before GS happens. If you continue to 100% protect the debt holders GS events will happen all the time.

If you settle the under collateralized positions to smart coin owners that's just stealing from them and goes against DEX rules.

GS happens because of 1 thing:
1. debt positions don't adjust debt

To correct that DEX should:
1. Margin call their position with enough incentive for the position to be liquidated (MSSR), the margin call should be such that debt holder would want to adjust their debt or close it.

Shifting risk to the DEX, smart coin holders or anyone else is just not a good business practice.

But you are most likely a debt holder so you probably want others to pay for the risk you took and lost. When BTS goes up I don't see any debt holders creating GS funds, they just want to use other people's money to cover their risk. And that's the gist of it. The sad part is that by seeing only your way, you fail to notice that BTS continues to slide because of people's mistrust and bad practices.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately, and am writing a paper which I'll potentially submit to the Decentralized 2019 conference on the topic.

Choosing MCR and MSSR is a surprisingly complex issue. Like abit said, 10% MSSR didn't protect BitUSD from GS last December. Maybe this was because MSSR penalties are paid out of collateral, which means that there's less margin before a GS. Or maybe the GS happened because MSSR was too low, so there wasn't enough demand for margin calls. Or, maybe this was just because the BTS market was so bad that BitUSD was going to global settle no matter what.

I'm generally in favor of MSSR, and one of the things this paper is going to say is that 0% MSSR may be one of the worst options of all. However, I think one of the bigger issues is that there really isn't a good incentive for individual traders to protect against a GS event. Because of this, I'm loosely in favor of any proposal that gets rid of GS. I totally agree with bitcrab that GS is like suicide. However, I've yet to see a replacement that I really like. It'll be one of the major focuses of my research project.

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The debt holders concern about global settlement and BitAsset Holders concern about under collateralized, there is solution available for both parties but need some changes on BSIP18 - Revive BitAsset through buying Settlement Pool.

Propose Solution:
1. Rather than force close all margin positions and move to settlement pool, the new solution is force close MCR <1 Margin Positions only and move to settlement pool, this will solve debt holders concern about global settlement.
2. Same as BSIP18, everyone can Use BTS to bid for those debts in settlement pool but we need to give them incentive to do so because investors will prefer to create new margin position rather than use MCR 1.6 to revive those debt.
3. Asset Owner set a new parameter call Minimum ReCollateral Ratio (MRR) eg. MRR 1.1
4. With MRR 1.1, investors can use 0.1 BTS to obtain 1 BTS Debt, this is a huge incentive for investors to keep BitAsset fully collateralized, this will solve BitAsset Holders concern about under collateralized.

I've been thinking of something vaguely similar, but I think there are some significant issues.

Here is one concern with this proposal: (I'll use BitUSD as an example.) What if BTS continues to fall after one of these force-settle events happens? Then you'll effectively have two "different" BitUSDs -- the stuff that's fully-collateralized, and the stuff that is collateralized only by the little bit of BTS in its own settlement pool. Even with your low MRR, BTS doesn't have to drop all that much for it to be very expensive for someone to bail out the settlement pool, so it could conceivably sit there for a very long time.

In a really nasty market, there could easily be millions of BitUSD sitting undercollateralized in settlement pools. If things get bad enough, you could have so much BitUSD in the settlement pools that BitUSD is, overall, undercollateralized -- even though the usual mechanism is still operational.

This question is one of the core ones I'll be dealing with if my research worker is approved.

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A quick update:

  • Pending funding, my goal is to write a short paper to submit to the Decentralized 2019 conference in Athens. There is a separate worker which seeks to have BitShares sponsor the Decentralized 2019 conference, and I thought it would be fantastic if BitShares could also showcase the UCCS research project there as well. If all goes well, I'm going to scramble to submit a paper to this conference's academic track which will lay out the project's main questions and perhaps start to look at the shape of the answers.
  • The Research Project's worker period has started today, and it still needs more votes.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Core Team Worker Funding Status
« on: June 27, 2019, 04:31:32 pm »
+5% +5% +5%

Time for more marketing proposals 8)

Or for an advanced research program! ;)

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This conference's academic track could be an interesting place to send an initial paper for my university research project if it ends up being funded. The submission deadline is July 15th, which is very tight -- but probably possible.

If it all works out and BitShares does sponsor the conference, having BitShares-funded academic research presented there as well could look quite good!

Thoughts?

That is awesome! I'll get on it and see if we can get some flexibility on submission dates :) This would also mean I've got one more slot on the attendance list filled for you to attend/present :)

Excellent! I'll start putting something together.

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This conference's academic track could be an interesting place to send an initial paper for my university research project if it ends up being funded. The submission deadline is July 15th, which is very tight -- but probably possible.

If it all works out and BitShares does sponsor the conference, having BitShares-funded academic research presented there as well could look quite good!

Thoughts?

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