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Title: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: testz on November 25, 2015, 05:57:40 am
BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_bitusd
https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_bitcny
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: bitacer on November 25, 2015, 06:04:18 am
Quote from: testz on November 25, 2015, 05:57:40 am
BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_bitusd
https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_bitcny

Nice !
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: Empirical1.2 on November 25, 2015, 06:23:41 am
 +5% Well done whoever got that done
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: Riverhead on November 25, 2015, 06:25:40 am

I'm gonna guess Xeroc.  +5%
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: rgcrypto on November 25, 2015, 06:32:28 am
#sharesbit "xeroc" 1 THANKYOU

#sharesbit "xeroc" 1 FISTBUMP

#sharesbit "xeroc" 1 HIGHFIVE

Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: DestBest on November 25, 2015, 06:32:47 am
Very nice!  8)

Note: Shouldn't the market be bitusd:btc instead of btc:bitusd ?
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: Tuck Fheman on November 25, 2015, 06:34:07 am
Quote from: testz on November 25, 2015, 05:57:40 am
BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_bitusd
https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_bitcny

#sharebits "testz" 1 THANKYOU

^ to make up for my bounced THANKYOU earlier. ;)
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: btstip on November 25, 2015, 06:34:51 am
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Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: tonyk on November 25, 2015, 06:48:48 am
ha

anyone willing to trade them? {I am willing to trade them just for he volume}.

or is it gonna be another great "Talk a lot, do not do much".

A thing the BTS community is known for... at least so far.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: testz on November 25, 2015, 06:54:25 am
Quote from: tonyk on November 25, 2015, 06:48:48 am
ha

anyone willing to trade them? {I am willing to trade them just for he volume}.

or is it gonna be another great "Talk a lot, do not do much".

A thing the BTS community is known for... at least so far.

Time will show.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: lzr1900 on November 25, 2015, 06:55:28 am

Quote from: tonyk on November 25, 2015, 06:48:48 am
ha

anyone willing to trade them? {I am willing to trade them just for he volume}.

or is it gonna be another great "Talk a lot, do not do much".

A thing the BTS community is known for... at least so far.
agreed
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: testz on November 25, 2015, 06:58:37 am
Quote from: tonyk on November 25, 2015, 06:48:48 am
ha

anyone willing to trade them? {I am willing to trade them just for he volume}.

or is it gonna be another great "Talk a lot, do not do much".

A thing the BTS community is known for... at least so far.

I agree with you if BitUSD will trade only at one exchange, and disagree if it's will trade in few, because in this case it's can be used as fast "fiat" transfer between exchanges for arbitrage.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: clout on November 25, 2015, 07:03:32 am
Quote from: DestBest on November 25, 2015, 06:32:47 am
Very nice!  8)

Note: Shouldn't the market be bitusd:btc instead of btc:bitusd ?

BitUSD is not a base asset, which is annoying but understandable given that it is a newly integrated crypto currency. Hopefully if we can do more volume in their BitUSD/BTC market than is transacted in the the USDT/BTC market we can get BitUSD to serve as a base currency. Additionally, I will be reaching out to both Poloniex and Bittrex (who will be integrating BitCNY soon) to provide an ETH/BitCNY market since there is substantial demand for ETH in china but no ETH/CNY markets.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: clout on November 25, 2015, 07:13:02 am
Quote from: tonyk on November 25, 2015, 06:48:48 am
ha

anyone willing to trade them? {I am willing to trade them just for he volume}.

or is it gonna be another great "Talk a lot, do not do much".

A thing the BTS community is known for... at least so far.

The reason why it is important to have BitCNY and BitUSD on Poloniex at this point is because we currently don't have the bond market operational. You can now earn interest on your BitCNY and BitUSD. Going forward margin trading in the BitUSD and BitCNY markets on poloniex should increase the volume. Additionally, shapeshift.io currently uses Yunbi's BTC/BitUSD market for their BitUSD bridge. The Poloniex' market could have much more volume than that of Yunbi and if shapeshift switches to relying on the Poloniex BTC/BitUSD market they will also be more inclined to add BitCNY.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: tonyk on November 25, 2015, 07:30:20 am
I think, I am HEAVELY misunderstood here.

I think these are great news.

I also think making a bot on polo is as easy as it gets.

But I still think it will be 6 mo. of me and 2 other traders taking each other's money, one trade at a time...for a net gain of nothing.

Hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: xeroc on November 25, 2015, 07:43:41 am
Thanks for adding bitUSD and BitCNY .. but .. it wasn't me .. I don't even have any contacts to polo (yet) .. hope to change that ..
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: JonnyB on November 25, 2015, 09:24:54 am
Wow nice to see polo taking on these. Everybody get trading back and forth just to get that volume up!
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: JonnyB on November 25, 2015, 09:32:36 am
Also just noticed that USDT ( https://tether.to/ ) is now only trading as a base asset against BTC.
It used to trade as a base asset against loads of alts but they've obviously removed them as they weren't getting traction.

This could be an opportunity for BITUSD to step up. I'd love to see BITUSD trading as a base asset against other cryptos on poloniex, but like others have already said in this thread Bitshares holders talk to much and don't trade enough.

edit: I was wrong, I was in the margin trading section which is why the other USDT markets wern't showing :-(
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: speedy on November 25, 2015, 09:51:25 am
Maybe we could get a fee discount for running market maker bots on that market?
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: TravelsAsia on November 25, 2015, 11:02:46 am
This is great news, now we need to get MUSE added.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: Ben Mason on November 25, 2015, 12:00:04 pm
and OBITS....

Great news!  Well done and thanks Polo!
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: Helikopterben on November 25, 2015, 01:36:02 pm
This looks like another UIA business opportunity for a nubits-style market-maker bot.  Obviously they are profitable even though the base asset is flawed. (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19975.0.html)
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: karnal on November 25, 2015, 01:38:30 pm
This is GREAT!

edit: Would be even better if we get BitUSD and BitCNY denominated pairs (like they have for USDT). Anyone working on *that*?
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: Helikopterben on November 25, 2015, 02:09:08 pm
It would be nice to eventually get things like oil, gas, natural gas, copper, corn, cotton, wheat, s&p 500, dow 30, ect. trading.  People can own and trade things originally thought to be untradeable in crypto... and we will own that verticle market, at least for now.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: nomoreheroes7 on November 25, 2015, 03:02:44 pm
Quote from: Erlich Bachman on November 25, 2015, 02:49:29 pm
Quote from: Empirical1.2 on November 25, 2015, 06:23:41 am
+5% Well done whoever got that done

http://www.zerohedge.com/sponsored-content?mvi=70f1195ab974462181a3ae68bb1dbc9b

well done to whoever got this done too!

???

An ad for yet another BitGold knock-off?

Anyway, this is huge news. I'm glad to hear that polo is open to give this kind of stuff a try. Now we just need to show them it was worth it...get those puppies trading!
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: abit on November 25, 2015, 03:16:20 pm
How about create a worker proposal for keep some volumes on those pairs?

//Edit:
In order to get bitusd or bitcny into the top 10 list on Poloniex, just need a volume of 20 btc, so the cost for keeping this volume is about 0.16 btc, or 16000 bts at current rate.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: Helikopterben on November 25, 2015, 03:17:00 pm
Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on November 25, 2015, 03:02:44 pm
Quote from: Erlich Bachman on November 25, 2015, 02:49:29 pm
Quote from: Empirical1.2 on November 25, 2015, 06:23:41 am
+5% Well done whoever got that done

http://www.zerohedge.com/sponsored-content?mvi=70f1195ab974462181a3ae68bb1dbc9b

well done to whoever got this done too!

???

An ad for yet another BitGold knock-off?

Anyway, this is huge news. I'm glad to hear that polo is open to give this kind of stuff a try. Now we just need to show them it was worth it...get those puppies trading!

Yet another e-gold, doomed for failure.  It amazes me how people in finance will resurrect a failed model over and over again.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: clout on November 25, 2015, 05:47:22 pm
Quote from: karnal on November 25, 2015, 01:38:30 pm
This is GREAT!

edit: Would be even better if we get BitUSD and BitCNY denominated pairs (like they have for USDT). Anyone working on *that*?

Yes, I am in contact with Poloniex. I don't expect that they will make BitUSD or BitCNY a base asset if there is no demonstrated volume. I will however encourage them to make BitCNY a base asset for ETH since a lot of the demand for ETH is coming from China but there are no ETH/CNY market. Bitcrab has already stated that he would help provide liquidity for such a market.

Also BitCNY coming soon to Bittrex if there are any people interested in trading there.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: monsterer on November 25, 2015, 06:15:05 pm
Quote from: clout on November 25, 2015, 05:47:22 pm
Quote from: karnal on November 25, 2015, 01:38:30 pm
This is GREAT!

edit: Would be even better if we get BitUSD and BitCNY denominated pairs (like they have for USDT). Anyone working on *that*?

Yes, I am in contact with Poloniex. I don't expect that they will make BitUSD or BitCNY a base asset if there is no demonstrated volume. I will however encourage them to make BitCNY a base asset for ETH since a lot of the demand for ETH is coming from China but there are no ETH/CNY market. Bitcrab has already stated that he would help provide liquidity for such a market.

Also BitCNY coming soon to Bittrex if there are any people interested in trading there.

I think you mean quote asset? You want prices quoted in bitCNY?
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: clout on November 25, 2015, 06:21:35 pm
Quote from: monsterer on November 25, 2015, 06:15:05 pm
Quote from: clout on November 25, 2015, 05:47:22 pm
Quote from: karnal on November 25, 2015, 01:38:30 pm
This is GREAT!

edit: Would be even better if we get BitUSD and BitCNY denominated pairs (like they have for USDT). Anyone working on *that*?

Yes, I am in contact with Poloniex. I don't expect that they will make BitUSD or BitCNY a base asset if there is no demonstrated volume. I will however encourage them to make BitCNY a base asset for ETH since a lot of the demand for ETH is coming from China but there are no ETH/CNY market. Bitcrab has already stated that he would help provide liquidity for such a market.

Also BitCNY coming soon to Bittrex if there are any people interested in trading there.

I think you mean quote asset? You want prices quoted in bitCNY?

Yeah, that's what I meant.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: clayop on November 25, 2015, 06:35:01 pm
Sorry for the off-topic. Is Poloniex considering to add MUSE?
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: cube on November 25, 2015, 06:45:27 pm
Quote from: clayop on November 25, 2015, 06:35:01 pm
Sorry for the off-topic. Is Poloniex considering to add MUSE?

Yes they are. But it may take some time.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19091.msg260576.html#msg260576
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: clout on November 25, 2015, 07:20:10 pm
Quote from: clayop on November 25, 2015, 06:35:01 pm
Sorry for the off-topic. Is Poloniex considering to add MUSE?

Yes, but realistically there wouldn't be that much volume in this market, so it is a low priority.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: cube on November 25, 2015, 07:21:06 pm
Quote from: clout on November 25, 2015, 07:20:10 pm
Quote from: clayop on November 25, 2015, 06:35:01 pm
Sorry for the off-topic. Is Poloniex considering to add MUSE?

Yes, but realistically there wouldn't be that much volume in this market, so it is a low priority.

Unfortunately, that is true.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: clayop on November 25, 2015, 07:53:15 pm
Quote from: clout on November 25, 2015, 07:20:10 pm
Quote from: clayop on November 25, 2015, 06:35:01 pm
Sorry for the off-topic. Is Poloniex considering to add MUSE?

Yes, but realistically there wouldn't be that much volume in this market, so it is a low priority.

Right.. If people want to buy MUSE with BTC, they can use OPENMUSE:OPENBTC market.

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/OPENMUSE_OPENBTC
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: Chris4210 on November 25, 2015, 09:21:01 pm
Does anybody know if the BitUSD are somehow connected to the Graphene blockchain? Or is poloniex simply trading BitUSD UIA?

In that case BitShares would not directly benefit from Poloniex trades.... 
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: xeroc on November 25, 2015, 09:32:15 pm
They trade the one and only bitUSD of the bts chain. They do it like with any other blockchain token ..
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: TravelsAsia on November 25, 2015, 09:38:34 pm
Quote from: clayop on November 25, 2015, 07:53:15 pm
Quote from: clout on November 25, 2015, 07:20:10 pm
Quote from: clayop on November 25, 2015, 06:35:01 pm
Sorry for the off-topic. Is Poloniex considering to add MUSE?

Yes, but realistically there wouldn't be that much volume in this market, so it is a low priority.

Right.. If people want to buy MUSE with BTC, they can use OPENMUSE:OPENBTC market.

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/OPENMUSE_OPENBTC

Let's get some volume flowing on there!

@clayop

You mentioned a bug where you have to place the order a little above for it to fill that's being worked on in the GUI, I wasn't sure if that's a good way to explain it.   If you're new, like me, it's good to know.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: clout on November 25, 2015, 09:43:53 pm
Quote from: Chris4210X on November 25, 2015, 09:21:01 pm
Does anybody know if the BitUSD are somehow connected to the Graphene blockchain? Or is poloniex simply trading BitUSD UIA?

In that case BitShares would not directly benefit from Poloniex trades....

Any asset that is traded on a centralized exchange is an IOU. Thus, you can consider BitUSD traded on poloniex as POLONIEX.BITUSD. Bitshares benefits a great deal from having these bitassets traded on Poloniex. Direct benefit from trading fees is far less than the indirect benefit from the exposure and volume of the Poloniex markets.
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: monsterer on November 25, 2015, 09:50:24 pm
Quote from: clayop on November 25, 2015, 07:53:15 pm
Quote from: clout on November 25, 2015, 07:20:10 pm
Quote from: clayop on November 25, 2015, 06:35:01 pm
Sorry for the off-topic. Is Poloniex considering to add MUSE?

Yes, but realistically there wouldn't be that much volume in this market, so it is a low priority.

Right.. If people want to buy MUSE with BTC, they can use OPENMUSE:OPENBTC market.

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/OPENMUSE_OPENBTC

Stay tuned... We might have something around the corner :)
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: Tuck Fheman on November 25, 2015, 10:08:26 pm
Quote from: monsterer on November 25, 2015, 09:50:24 pm
Stay tuned... We might have something around the corner :)

(https://img.pandawhale.com/post-42136-kitten-looking-around-corner-g-vTFg.gif)
Title: Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
Post by: btstip on November 26, 2015, 02:33:31 am
Hey Tuck Fheman, here are the results of your tips...
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