So, peertracks will be using various techs for its backend. Does this reduce the significance of the "so called" bitshare music blockchain?
Will Notes be the only "reserve currency" backing the whole system peertracks is building?
Overall, if peertracks proves to be a huge success in the future, will Notes achieve an increase in value of the same magnitude or less? I mean, people will mainly be interacting with peertrack website and frontend, how could that increase the value of Notes?

Notes are the collateral for the bitassets on their chain, so noteUSD will be used for the artistcoin buyback / burn mechanism. Thus NOTEs should increase in value because of that. Also I think the NOTEs will be able to be used to pay for your subscription to the PeerTracks service.

As far as I know, their service depends on an on ramp type service to go from credit card transactions on PeerTracks to noteUSD on the chain.

Quote from: merlin0113 on January 26, 2015, 01:30:12 am

Based the hangout people and the active members of this forum, just my guess. I would say it's below 1000users. Active users numbers, I mean who do transactions and wallet market orders, is even less.

OMG 

I wouldn't be too sad about it. Do what you can within your own means to bring more early adopters to BitShares. Quality > Quantity. Blockchain technologies are nowhere near mainstream use yet. Our little "tribes" will be dwarfed by the coming tide of users over the next few years...

What do I need to do? Do I just get people to attend the event or is there a page I can send them to for our booth?

Attending the event would be key. BitShares has a featured speaker slot available if a developer or community member wants to go to bat at the conference. 15 minute long video. Worse case I can do it, but it would have more cred coming from a core dev / founder. I also plan to reach out to the other DAC teams (Music / Play) to see if they would be interested in a 15 minute slot; the organizer is open to interesting topics and I think having 3 speakers from "powered by BitShares" projects would be a solid move.

My stab in the dark is that they are integrating with bitshares as a gateway. I personally don't think they are adding LTC but who knows. What value would it bring to their platform? All I can think of is more fees collected via LTC traders using Coinbase.

*waits for BTS price to rise 30%*

I met the head of a UK Bitcoin exchange today and I started talking about how BitShares is something of long term value, because its a profitable business model implemented on a blockchain that will eventually reward its shareholders with dividends instead of inflation etc etc. He said long term value is a must-have for him to consider adding it.

I think I made a good case today, and he's a really cool guy so Im about to write an email to propose helping out with becoming a gateway, but I was just wondering first:

-Is issuing a gateway IOU inside BTS as profitable for an exchange as just charging the usual 1% fee on every trade made internally?
-Would it be an easier sell to just ask them to trade BTS on their own exchange first? Then they can charge more fees.
-I was thinking of sending a link to this BTS TV episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtCVRIwcBYU Good idea?

Feel free to suggest any other links.

Some benefits of being a gateway:

- Build more trust in clientele because they can follow the IOU on the blockchain.
- Ability to market themselves as the first bitshares gateway to implement fiat (if they are a fiat <=> crypto exchange).
- Less overall risk because centralized servers aren't holding all of the private keys, users are.

Cons:

- Fees are presumably less for gateways, because the orderbook fees are relegated to the blockchain. If they offer a fiat onramp they could be charging fees between fiat and crypto though, like Coinbase or Circle.

To answer your question, I think a gateway is much more valuable then just listing BTS. But having them list BTS could still be a minor win. Get them to start slow and then in the future they could evolve into a gateway. Which exchange is it if you don't mind?

It was good to chat briefly on the mumble session, and hear about your vision.

I am a huge advocate of open source hardware and it seems incredible to have allies such as you in the field!
 
I have been following the work at Studio Kosagi: http://www.kosagi.com/  The Novena laptop in particular, quite a feat.  I'm sure you must be familiar... another talented crew to collaborate with.

Everything else has mostly been said.  I agree with fuzz that the importance of building a foundation on open hardware is key to our long term survival, and I see it as a huge priority.

And this...

Quote from: Riverhead on January 24, 2015, 04:08:36 pm

The possibilities are endless once you're willing to commit code to metal.

Let's explore those possibilities!

Novena is awesome! Just going to drop this here: http://www.bunniestudios.com/

Maybe we can get bunnie to colab on this? I have no contacts personally just like to read about OS hardware stuff once in a while. 

Good music, I think it would really make the mumble sessions "pop" to have an upbeat intro / outro.