I'm against a bot in its current form.
- Bad image
Investors / entrepreneurs checking out the forum and find users tipping ORGASMS, SPERM or CRAPCOINS to each other isn't that mature or inspiring confidence
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Used to bump old and obsolete threads
I'm against a bot in its current form.
- Bad image
Investors / entrepreneurs checking out the forum and find users tipping ORGASMS, SPERM or CRAPCOINS to each other isn't that mature or inspiring confidence
- Derailing
Used to bump old and obsolete threads
In regards to bad image, what of that in regard of posting memes? To say the least, the forum could easily enforce censoring of certain assets given assets are required to be spelled perfectly, it means ORGASMS could be censored to ORG*SMS or something. The forum administrators have control over censorship of tipping certain assets. Like wise, censoring could be done at the implementation level where we only let certain assets be tippable. Personally though, I'm not for censoring.
In regards to bump old/obsolete threads, why not treat tipping in such threads the same you would regular necromancing? Simply have a sticky thread that people can use to tip people in and tell people to use that thread for "older posts."
I think it's not worth talking about does the forum need a tip bot, but do the pros of a tip bot on the forums outweigh the cons?
Does sharebits work ?, a user says he is not receiving the tips I sentI'm against a bot in its current form.
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Investors / entrepreneurs checking out the forum and find users tipping ORGASMS, SPERM or CRAPCOINS to each other isn't that mature or inspiring confidence
- Derailing
Used to bump old and obsolete threads
In regards to bad image, what of that in regard of posting memes? To say the least, the forum could easily enforce censoring of certain assets given assets are required to be spelled perfectly, it means ORGASMS could be censored to ORG*SMS or something. The forum administrators have control over censorship of tipping certain assets. Like wise, censoring could be done at the implementation level where we only let certain assets be tippable. Personally though, I'm not for censoring.
In regards to bump old/obsolete threads, why not treat tipping in such threads the same you would regular necromancing? Simply have a sticky thread that people can use to tip people in and tell people to use that thread for "older posts."
I think it's not worth talking about does the forum need a tip bot, but do the pros of a tip bot on the forums outweigh the cons?
I think it's not worth talking about does the forum need a tip bot, but do the pros of a tip bot on the forums outweigh the cons?
I'm against a bot in its current form.
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Investors / entrepreneurs checking out the forum and find users tipping ORGASMS, SPERM or CRAPCOINS to each other isn't that mature or inspiring confidence
- Derailing
Used to bump old and obsolete threads
I'm against a bot in its current form.
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Investors / entrepreneurs checking out the forum and find users tipping ORGASMS, SPERM or CRAPCOINS to each other isn't that mature or inspiring confidence
- Derailing
Used to bump old and obsolete threads
Yeah exactly, I hate all these social tokens/ shitcoins non of them have any value. If you genuinely like what someone has done ask for there bts account name and send them some BTS. Even brownies are a waste of time IMHO
I'm against a bot in its current form.
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Investors / entrepreneurs checking out the forum and find users tipping ORGASMS, SPERM or CRAPCOINS to each other isn't that mature or inspiring confidence
- Derailing
Used to bump old and obsolete threads
Yeah exactly, I hate all these social tokens/ shitcoins non of them have any value. If you genuinely like what someone has done ask for there bts account name and send them some BTS. Even brownies are a waste of time IMHO
Well a coin ca only be a representation of a value and there needs to be consensus about its value.
I'm against a bot in its current form.
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Investors / entrepreneurs checking out the forum and find users tipping ORGASMS, SPERM or CRAPCOINS to each other isn't that mature or inspiring confidence
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Used to bump old and obsolete threads
Yeah exactly, I hate all these social tokens/ shitcoins non of them have any value. If you genuinely like what someone has done ask for there bts account name and send them some BTS. Even brownies are a waste of time IMHO
ShareBits is part of the BitShares ecosystem. It's not bad in itself.
It's not because bad people use Bitcoin to fund terrorist acts that Bitcoin need to be ban or stopped.
Same here. We just need to ask to the members of this community to use the more childish token in thread of light/funny discussion and respect the important matter discussed free of bad-image-token.
IMO, it's already the case. I didn't see anything that could damage our image in the important threads.
There's more. I think a guest of our forum with entrepeneurship mind seeing someone tipping another with "firstbump" or "smile" may have poping in his mind lots of potential use of theses token.
I'm against a bot in its current form.The awesome thing about free speech is also the terrible thing about it. This is not a problem with the bot. Neither is it a problem for bitshares to have UIA's that anyone can create and name. UIA's and the tool used to pass them around are tools.
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Investors / entrepreneurs checking out the forum and find users tipping ORGASMS, SPERM or CRAPCOINS to each other isn't that mature or inspiring confidence
- DerailingHere let me bump old and obsolete threads----"bump", or "just keeping this thread alive"
Used to bump old and obsolete threads
I think it is nice to have one but it would also be nice for the tipping to be somewhat costly to prevent spam (however that may work)
... it seems so many people are upset about everything lately. Why is this? Why do I see the tendency to put down efforts as opposed to trying to expend the same amount of energy doing something valuable?
I think people are getting impatient and worried and frustrated...and losing themselves in that instead of just focusing on the benefits tools like this are bringing.
Quote... it seems so many people are upset about everything lately. Why is this? Why do I see the tendency to put down efforts as opposed to trying to expend the same amount of energy doing something valuable?
I think people are getting impatient and worried and frustrated...and losing themselves in that instead of just focusing on the benefits tools like this are bringing.
The simple answer is that it is easy to complain but hard to be constructive, and the frustration is real. In my case I falsely justify complaints as "offering constructive feedback" but as I review many of my own posts I can see the frustration and emotion that comes through is counterproductive to that end. I also see that without that "edginess", feedback no matter how it's offered or how good it is can be lost or ignored, but hey that's just life. It's all about choices and giving everyone the space to make theirs without force.
I feel so paralyzed by a lack of info on HOW to use this ecosystem and I can see I am not alone in that frustration. On the other hand I see a small minority of people who have managed to push through the difficulties and find a way to be creative with the tools currently available. I call that ability the "McGyver Factor", an ability to adapt and make due with what's at hand.
In other areas of my life I've had an above average level of the "McGyver Factor" but whether it's due to aging or the intensity and volume of information people must now process I don't feel I can adapt to changes as well as I could before.
Back on topic. As I've mentioned to you before fuzzy I just don't get the economic value of all these UIAs, but I can see the value in other ways. So contrasting the sentiments of @fav and @fuzzy I understand both perspectives. I am NOT in favor of censorship at all. If people want to use FISTBUMPS and ORGASMS to express themselves I say go for it. I can appreciate a touch of humor in all this seriousness.
But I also find the chaos in forum to be too much sometimes, and I am very grateful to people like fav for the time and effort to tidy things up and apply a measure of organization to things around here, we could use more of that.
Perhaps we all could be a bit more circumspect in our attitude. I know I certainly can.
I actually don't see the bot messages as it is atm as a problem. It is just that is is sometimes a bit more anoying to scroll over threads with a lot of bot msg. Maybe these could just be made smaller (font, less space between lines)?I think it is nice to have one but it would also be nice for the tipping to be somewhat costly to prevent spam (however that may work)
It already costs 20 bucks to make a UIA, along with the time to do so. Also, we didn't want to make it so if I send you 1 HIGHFIVE, you receive .95 HIGHFIVE.
I can see the potential problem with spam though for sure.
I can also see the bot sending to pm's as opposed to the thread where it is posted. In fact, @hybridd and I have already talked about this openly on the forum and have stated the intention to move it to pms as opposed to within the sharing (tipping) thread.
I actually don't see the bot messages as it is atm as a problem. It is just that is is sometimes a bit more anoying to scroll over threads with a lot of bot msg. Maybe these could just be made smaller (font, less space between lines)?I think it is nice to have one but it would also be nice for the tipping to be somewhat costly to prevent spam (however that may work)
It already costs 20 bucks to make a UIA, along with the time to do so. Also, we didn't want to make it so if I send you 1 HIGHFIVE, you receive .95 HIGHFIVE.
I can see the potential problem with spam though for sure.
I can also see the bot sending to pm's as opposed to the thread where it is posted. In fact, @hybridd and I have already talked about this openly on the forum and have stated the intention to move it to pms as opposed to within the sharing (tipping) thread.
I believe it is time we created some sort of flag or symbol (see my avatar as a suggestion) so that we all can publicly display our allegiance to our great leader, or small group of leaders hand picked by our great leader. I cannot stand idly by any longer and watch our great land, this forum, run amok with free thought or free enterprise!
I don't thing spamming is a problem. You can spam manually or with a bot, with ou without token.
I can send 1 fistbump or write a message saying "fistbump" every 5 minutes, it's almost the same.
It's spamming, no need for tokens to do that.
I think having the tipbot around is good. When new people come they will wonder in a positive way about it. They will think "can I make my own currency"You see one valuable aspect eagle and it is great to know that you see it. But I think we have even overlooked something: when they consider wanting to make their own asset, if the tipbot is alive and well they will likely have a well of people who are capable of helping them create it because more people will have practiced doing so (because they have a REASON to).
I think the bot is running stable and testing should be over soon.
The sharebot project is stupid.
I don't like social tokens and I don't like the tipbot.
HOWEVER, I see where the general use of social tokens comes from. The tipbot is a great tool to generate awareness. I have no statistics available, but I'm pretty certain that the tipbot/social token stuff is used a lot more actively than any other assets on our blockchain (except BTS itself and some MPAs of course). That's why I think that yes we definitely need both. Here and everywhere else.
(It wouldn't be the first time that some genius makes a really clever invention for the good of mankind, and then mankind comes along and uses it for some completely irrelevant crap. As in, invent the internet - and use it for facebook.)
I can't believe a "free speech" forum is discussing censorship?!
No to censorship. Ban children from the forum instead.
I can't believe a "free speech" forum is discussing censorship?!
No to censorship. Ban children from the forum instead.
How does the forum assess who are children? All our individual opinions may differ.
I can't believe a "free speech" forum is discussing censorship?!
No to censorship. Ban children from the forum instead.
How does the forum assess who are children? All our individual opinions may differ.
I have 2 characters, I am pretty damn sure are below the age of 11...tuck and fuzzy
I can't believe a "free speech" forum is discussing censorship?!
No to censorship. Ban children from the forum instead.
How does the forum assess who are children? All our individual opinions may differ.
I have 2 characters, I am pretty damn sure are below the age of 11...tuck and fuzzy
Tuck is only acting like everyone else on the forum here lately to prove a point. What's funny is you are usually the most abrasive person on this forum and he has given you an opportunity to look sane for once. You should be thanking him for the opportunity to redeem your reputation. Just my 2 million BTS. Carry on kids.
The sharebot project is stupid.What a useful comment.
The sharebot project is stupid.
"Roads are stupid" he says :D
"Passing tokens outside our ecosystem in a way that could become viral is stupid" he says :)
I guess you could look at Changetip's success as an indicator of how successful it could be...then add to that it is the fastest bot in the world because of bitshares. I guess all that is "stupid" though eh phillyguy?
Welcome to the BitShares Forum - a place for could be, would be and should be, plus a heavy dose of Fuzzy's undeserved ego. Fuzz - rub something in my face when you contribute something that actually gains some network effect. This forum is dying a slow death.
Welcome to the BitShares Forum - a place for could be, would be and should be, plus a heavy dose of Fuzzy's undeserved ego. Fuzz - rub something in my face when you contribute something that actually gains some network effect. This forum is dying a slow death.
If Tonyk had any more Greenies to tip with, I'll bet you just earned one. ;)
Personally, I don't think all that fuzzy does is useful, but some of his work certainly is. One thing I've never picked up from listening to his shows or reading his posts is ego. Seems like a mostly humble guy.
well, as I stated before, my biggest problem with a enforcing PM-only is that the service doesn't self-spread. Anyone who doesn't use the bot has no way of (easily) learning about it without going out and searching the forums to try to find what its all about. As mentioned before, I think there are some ways to reduce the amount of posts the bot makes, and spoiler-tags reduces the visual-content/scrolling.
personally, I think we need smarter forums all together but... that's a whole other beast to tackle.
98% of the UIAs are crap. I think we need to recognize that, recognize that it takes more than a few friends to develop your UIA's economy of scale, and focus instead on the few currencies/assets that we want to build up and market. Dividing our efforts into all these different useless UIAs is not going to make the system stronger. If we want to grow, let's identify our strongest suits and push those hard.
At first I tried to be neutral on this, but now that I see you are ignoring opposite opinions, I have to say no. The bot is annoying and creates distraction on the forum.
I don't mind having the bot here, but you have to design it so that is not spamming all the time.
If users find the bot annoying, that's a fact you just have to accept. You can't change these kind of feelings by arguing against them. It's a design problem, not lack of understanding.
At first I tried to be neutral on this, but now that I see you are ignoring opposite opinions, I have to say no. The bot is annoying and creates distraction on the forum.
I don't mind having the bot here, but you have to design it so that is not spamming all the time.
If users find the bot annoying, that's a fact you just have to accept. You can't change these kind of feelings by arguing against them. It's a design problem, not lack of understanding.
@Freebieservers thanks for the candid input. However i (somewhat) disagree with the analogy of facebook on this one. Faction tokens or other tokens that show someone was at a certai ace at a certain time, or worked on a specific project can carry value simply by marking people of value for specific reasons that may become valuable to others in the future.
we are working in an area where there are MANY use cases that have yet to be uncovered and ig oring those usecases is ignoring the possibility that something little will become big.
Id bet if michael jordan created a token (or basketball card) in his early days of basketball most people who knew his early coach woukd have said "this token has no value!" well they would have tirned out to be idiots. And it only takes one michael jordan (underdog) to change everything...
cutting our most innovative and creative community members' heads off before they even get a chance to TRY to build value--simy because others say its not valuable is is a move not to take lightly...
@Freebieservers thanks for the candid input. However i (somewhat) disagree with the analogy of facebook on this one. Faction tokens or other tokens that show someone was at a certai ace at a certain time, or worked on a specific project can carry value simply by marking people of value for specific reasons that may become valuable to others in the future.
we are working in an area where there are MANY use cases that have yet to be uncovered and ig oring those usecases is ignoring the possibility that something little will become big.
Id bet if michael jordan created a token (or basketball card) in his early days of basketball most people who knew his early coach woukd have said "this token has no value!" well they would have tirned out to be idiots. And it only takes one michael jordan (underdog) to change everything...
cutting our most innovative and creative community members' heads off before they even get a chance to TRY to build value--simy because others say its not valuable is is a move not to take lightly...
Fuzzy, I'm not into cutting anybody off. Nowhere in my post did I mention anything like this. 6-12 months from now, everyone will come to the same conclusion, which was that we wasted time and resources on crapcoins when we could have promoted our top products and achieved some traction in the marketplace. How would we do so now? By ignoring the crapcoins and hoping they go away, tipping instead in BTS, USD, GOLD, and the things that count, currencies/assets that we as a community want to introduce to people.
When you build a building, you don't make it a mile wide; you lay some strong pillars and build upon them. If you wish, add to it later, once it's standing tall and strong. For the record, I think Freebie's post is EXCELLENT, every word of it. That post is REALLY well written.
At first I tried to be neutral on this, but now that I see you are ignoring opposite opinions, I have to say no. The bot is annoying and creates distraction on the forum.
I don't mind having the bot here, but you have to design it so that is not spamming all the time.
If users find the bot annoying, that's a fact you just have to accept. You can't change these kind of feelings by arguing against them. It's a design problem, not lack of understanding.
use ignore button -> spam gone
@Freebieservers thanks for the candid input. However i (somewhat) disagree with the analogy of facebook on this one. Faction tokens or other tokens that show someone was at a certai ace at a certain time, or worked on a specific project can carry value simply by marking people of value for specific reasons that may become valuable to others in the future.
we are working in an area where there are MANY use cases that have yet to be uncovered and ig oring those usecases is ignoring the possibility that something little will become big.
Id bet if michael jordan created a token (or basketball card) in his early days of basketball most people who knew his early coach woukd have said "this token has no value!" well they would have tirned out to be idiots. And it only takes one michael jordan (underdog) to change everything...
cutting our most innovative and creative community members' heads off before they even get a chance to TRY to build value--simy because others say its not valuable is is a move not to take lightly...
At first I tried to be neutral on this, but now that I see you are ignoring opposite opinions, I have to say no. The bot is annoying and creates distraction on the forum.
I don't mind having the bot here, but you have to design it so that is not spamming all the time.
If users find the bot annoying, that's a fact you just have to accept. You can't change these kind of feelings by arguing against them. It's a design problem, not lack of understanding.
Why do you guys insist on forcing others to NOT send out tokens simply because you do not think they are valuable?
Noone's saying lets take the bot down completely Fuzzy.
2. You tip someone and it is does have value but not enough to cover the transaction fee to convert it.
@Freebieservers thanks for the candid input. However i (somewhat) disagree with the analogy of facebook on this one. Faction tokens or other tokens that show someone was at a certai ace at a certain time, or worked on a specific project can carry value simply by marking people of value for specific reasons that may become valuable to others in the future.
we are working in an area where there are MANY use cases that have yet to be uncovered and ig oring those usecases is ignoring the possibility that something little will become big.
Id bet if michael jordan created a token (or basketball card) in his early days of basketball most people who knew his early coach woukd have said "this token has no value!" well they would have tirned out to be idiots. And it only takes one michael jordan (underdog) to change everything...
cutting our most innovative and creative community members' heads off before they even get a chance to TRY to build value--simy because others say its not valuable is is a move not to take lightly...
Fuzzy, I'm not into cutting anybody off. Nowhere in my post did I mention anything like this. 6-12 months from now, everyone will come to the same conclusion, which was that we wasted time and resources on crapcoins when we could have promoted our top products and achieved some traction in the marketplace. How would we do so now? By ignoring the crapcoins and hoping they go away, tipping instead in BTS, USD, GOLD, and the things that count, currencies/assets that we as a community want to introduce to people.
When you build a building, you don't make it a mile wide; you lay some strong pillars and build upon them. If you wish, add to it later, once it's standing tall and strong. For the record, I think Freebie's post is EXCELLENT, every word of it. That post is REALLY well written.
What do you expect to attract them with ?
Financial charts and stories of losses due to lack of updates?
Keep the community vibrant and active, its the only thing that's going to help this community grow. By instilling rules and dictatorship across the board, you are solely limiting what his community can be. Where has 2 years of dictatorship taken us anyways ? Can we statistically prove that there has been an increase in adoption ? We can realistically do that with the bot over a period of time.
short break .. watch and smile :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjVVNuraly8
Just an idea I had for some middle ground, it might be better if tipping was confined to a single thread. Tips and confirmations all in one spot, and only forum tips generated in that thread would actually work. Those who want to tip because someone said something significant, can quote or post a link to the comment next to the tip code in the tipping thread.
I like the tipbot, but make tips be a dollar minimum or something.
Yea so?
Just because there's a poll doesn't mean it has to happen.
Just an idea I had for some middle ground, it might be better if tipping was confined to a single thread. Tips and confirmations all in one spot, and only forum tips generated in that thread would actually work. Those who want to tip because someone said something significant, can quote or post a link to the comment next to the tip code in the tipping thread. This would be good for a few reasons, but in the very least, when I click 'Show unread posts since last visit', I wouldn't be alerted to a tip confirmation post.
Yea so?
Just because there's a poll doesn't mean it has to happen.
At least one is not over-dramatising. Consider this as an indicator to change the design.
Yea so?
Just because there's a poll doesn't mean it has to happen.
At least one is not over-dramatising. Consider this as an indicator to change the design.
Yes.
Having that said, I believe the matter could be presented in a better fashion.
Reaching out to the team and discussing a way to settle this would have been a lot more smarter in my opinion.
We had always maintained that the posts by the bot will be removed as the project grows and spam has been in our view since early on.
When people work 24/7 in building communities they tend to take things very personally.
People say "Sorry, nothing personal, its just business", but some of the members I know here are so engrossed in business, sometimes, anything against one's business, becomes absolutely personal. I experienced this in the past so I know what it feels like.
If all of us just got on counterstrike servers and decided to kill each other every time we got stressed, I think decision making would have been a lot more easier and fun. Recommended Fuzzy too - to go play some CS for a bit. Maybe we could do a CS session instead of the mumble session some day.
I see some good inputs from the members here and am glad to see that the thread has gone from an all out offensive to a collaborative effort to fix things.
Sometimes, being in biz dev in crypto..feels a lot like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-hUV9yhqgY
... but it does come up with some ingenious solutions.
2. You tip someone and it is does have value but not enough to cover the transaction fee to convert it.
As I informed Amanda @ The Daily Decrypt, HODL!
Accumulate more tips until it's worthwhile to cashout or just pass them around if you like.
Have any of you ever used Dogecoin?
It's as if this entire tipping culture is foreign to most of the people here.
Tips are a Community builder. The token doesn't need to have any value whatsoever.
Yea so?
Just because there's a poll doesn't mean it has to happen.
At least one is not over-dramatising. Consider this as an indicator to change the design.
Yes.
Having that said, I believe the matter could be presented in a better fashion.
Reaching out to the team and discussing a way to settle this would have been a lot more smarter in my opinion.
We had always maintained that the posts by the bot will be removed as the project grows and spam has been in our view since early on.
When people work 24/7 in building communities they tend to take things very personally.
People say "Sorry, nothing personal, its just business", but some of the members I know here are so engrossed in business, sometimes, anything against one's business, becomes absolutely personal. I experienced this in the past so I know what it feels like.
If all of us just got on counterstrike servers and decided to kill each other every time we got stressed, I think decision making would have been a lot more easier and fun. Recommended Fuzzy too - to go play some CS for a bit. Maybe we could do a CS session instead of the mumble session some day.
I see some good inputs from the members here and am glad to see that the thread has gone from an all out offensive to a collaborative effort to fix things.
Sometimes, being in biz dev in crypto..feels a lot like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-hUV9yhqgY
... but it does come up with some ingenious solutions.
Heh, I'd be up for some cs.
I'm doing as I see fit for the forum. If there has to be a controversial topic to make a dialogue happen, so be it. It's better to get this done now before people start to leave.
2. You tip someone and it is does have value but not enough to cover the transaction fee to convert it.
As I informed Amanda @ The Daily Decrypt, HODL!
Accumulate more tips until it's worthwhile to cashout or just pass them around if you like.
Have any of you ever used Dogecoin?
It's as if this entire tipping culture is foreign to most of the people here.
Tips are a Community builder. The token doesn't need to have any value whatsoever.
Dogecoin is a great example
http://www.coindesk.com/dogetipbot-turned-spoof-altcoin-tipping-phenomenon/
http://www.coindesk.com/social-tipping-tool-meme-dogecoin-445k/
- The median tip size is $0.03 with the average in the Reddit sample being $0.2
- All tips are in 'Dogecoin' so it builds the brand & as all tips are in the same denomination you can accumulate smaller tips over time.
Spamming multiple valueless tokens is not as community or brand building imo. In fact it harms the brand because people associate BitShares or the tipbot with tokens that have no value and as a result you don't convert customers even if you tip them with one that does because they won't take the time to investigate.
Having an enforced/guideline minimum value per token or tip, somewhere close to the Dogecoin median or at least above $0.02 would help solve the problem imo.
Dogecoin is a great example
The fact that you received a gift from someone that cared about what you did is the value!
Dogecoin is a great example
I agree.
It would have been worthwhile had you left in the part of what I said that made your next point moot. But alas, it was selectively removed. :-\The fact that you received a gift from someone that cared about what you did is the value!
I think the tipbot can add value when it is tipping actual currency, like BTS, bitUSD etc - things which have value, no these worthless tokens, no offence intended to their creators :)
In terms of your 'it's the thought that counts'
I would say a thoughtful compliment & +5% is a much greater forum gift then being given multiple worthless tokens by creators who think spamming them in this manner will help bootstrap them.
I think the bot is running stable and testing should be over soon.
I think the bot is running stable and testing should be over soon.
Is there any tutorial showing how to setup sharebits, I would like to know :
1- Whats a security code, what daoes it do and how do get it ?
2- How do I connect it witm my forum account?
3- Is ıt possıble to withdraw the same funds previously deposited into the account.
I think the bot is running stable and testing should be over soon.
Is there any tutorial showing how to setup sharebits, I would like to know :
1- Whats a security code, what daoes it do and how do get it ?
2- How do I connect it witm my forum account?
3- Is ıt possıble to withdraw the same funds previously deposited into the account.
that's easy!
go to sharebits.io
click the robot to sign in
use your forum name
in order to withdraw, you need a security code that's messaged to your forum name and is proof that you're actually using sharebits.
I attached my forum name to my twitter sign-in, so you won't need a bot message for example
I think the bot is running stable and testing should be over soon.
Is there any tutorial showing how to setup sharebits, I would like to know :
1- Whats a security code, what daoes it do and how do get it ?
2- How do I connect it witm my forum account?
3- Is ıt possıble to withdraw the same funds previously deposited into the account.
that's easy!
go to sharebits.io
click the robot to sign in
use your forum name
in order to withdraw, you need a security code that's messaged to your forum name and is proof that you're actually using sharebits.
I attached my forum name to my twitter sign-in, so you won't need a bot message for example
thats the thing I dont get security message
I think the bot is running stable and testing should be over soon.
Is there any tutorial showing how to setup sharebits, I would like to know :
1- Whats a security code, what daoes it do and how do get it ?
2- How do I connect it witm my forum account?
3- Is ıt possıble to withdraw the same funds previously deposited into the account.
that's easy!
go to sharebits.io
click the robot to sign in
use your forum name
in order to withdraw, you need a security code that's messaged to your forum name and is proof that you're actually using sharebits.
I attached my forum name to my twitter sign-in, so you won't need a bot message for example
thats the thing I dont get security message
you mean you don't receive the security code?
@Freebieservers
I think the bot is running stable and testing should be over soon.
Is there any tutorial showing how to setup sharebits, I would like to know :
1- Whats a security code, what daoes it do and how do get it ?
2- How do I connect it witm my forum account?
3- Is ıt possıble to withdraw the same funds previously deposited into the account.
that's easy!
go to sharebits.io
click the robot to sign in
use your forum name
in order to withdraw, you need a security code that's messaged to your forum name and is proof that you're actually using sharebits.
I attached my forum name to my twitter sign-in, so you won't need a bot message for example
thats the thing I dont get security message
you mean you don't receive the security code?
@Freebieservers
thats correct I dont
Just a sec I got it , my bad .
Yea so?
Just because there's a poll doesn't mean it has to happen.
At least one is not over-dramatising. Consider this as an indicator to change the design.
please read https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20584.msg265594.html#msg265594
I'm not lobbying against the bot, it's just that many people are complaining about how its run currently.
It comes across that way as you didn't really post anything positive about the bot but only the negatives. Now if you had said something to the effect of:
"Here are the Pros as I see it"
and then
"Here are the Cons as I see it"
Then I can agree you are not lobbying against it. However, your first post in that thread comes across as you are lobbying against it...and it is pretty apparent because I was notified by others who were concerned you were.
So maybe it is in order to change the initial post so those reading it are not biased by a primarily negative statement that misses all the value propositions of the bot? This should be pretty obvious fav...
what is the problem you are having these days with the bot and why are you actively trying to get people to vote for us not to use it?Apparently @fav wants to make me out to be overly dramatic, however it seems he had no problem allowing the provocation to continue.
I am interested in ironing this stuff out as opposed to causing needless drama because to be honest I don't have the time or the care to get into a shitstorm
please read https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20584.msg265594.html#msg265594
I'm not lobbying against the bot, it's just that many people are complaining about how its run currently.
who is complaining btw? can you have them reach out to me with constructive ideas so I can help?
Just an idea I had for some middle ground, it might be better if tipping was confined to a single thread. Tips and confirmations all in one spot, and only forum tips generated in that thread would actually work. Those who want to tip because someone said something significant, can quote or post a link to the comment next to the tip code in the tipping thread. This would be good for a few reasons, but in the very least, when I click 'Show unread posts since last visit', I wouldn't be alerted to a tip confirmation post.
Like all tools, it should be used with wisdom.Wish this would have been the OP of this thread...imagine how beautifully it would have come across had @fav gone this route.
As for any suggestion that the initiating tip message itself should be limited to a dedicated thread, that is as preposterous as saying people cannot give a +5% except in a dedicated thread.
This is a great project @fuzzy! I was just planning to test this out on the forums with some UIA's. I think we should continue to experiment openly with tipping & sharing with social currency, Smartcoins and asset-backed UIA's. I think what @Freebieservers said about the business side is very good and tweaking how it works is just part of product development. Having it delivered via PM is good, but you also want to allow people to discover it so you can maintain the viral component of the system. Maybe just have some indicator on the upper right of the post that show the UIA tips... just like karma points on reddit. Just a thought.
This is a great project @fuzzy! I was just planning to test this out on the forums with some UIA's. I think we should continue to experiment openly with tipping & sharing with social currency, Smartcoins and asset-backed UIA's. I think what @Freebieservers said about the business side is very good and tweaking how it works is just part of product development. Having it delivered via PM is good, but you also want to allow people to discover it so you can maintain the viral component of the system. Maybe just have some indicator on the upper right of the post that show the UIA tips... just like karma points on reddit. Just a thought.
The problem with this is the forums aren't even owned by the community/admins? Idk, but I recall being told it was hosted by Bitsapphire. So... really, plugin development is out of the question unless we migrate to a forum engine that the admins actually have full control over. If we were to do that, we might as well just build a smarter forum engine tailored to BTS all together...
Plugin development is a tedious process for smf.
This is a great project @fuzzy! I was just planning to test this out on the forums with some UIA's. I think we should continue to experiment openly with tipping & sharing with social currency, Smartcoins and asset-backed UIA's. I think what @Freebieservers said about the business side is very good and tweaking how it works is just part of product development. Having it delivered via PM is good, but you also want to allow people to discover it so you can maintain the viral component of the system. Maybe just have some indicator on the upper right of the post that show the UIA tips... just like karma points on reddit. Just a thought.
I love people having innovative ideas....
This is a great project @fuzzy! I was just planning to test this out on the forums with some UIA's. I think we should continue to experiment openly with tipping & sharing with social currency, Smartcoins and asset-backed UIA's. I think what @Freebieservers said about the business side is very good and tweaking how it works is just part of product development. Having it delivered via PM is good, but you also want to allow people to discover it so you can maintain the viral component of the system. Maybe just have some indicator on the upper right of the post that show the UIA tips... just like karma points on reddit. Just a thought.
The problem with this is the forums aren't even owned by the community/admins? Idk, but I recall being told it was hosted by Bitsapphire. So... really, plugin development is out of the question unless we migrate to a forum engine that the admins actually have full control over. If we were to do that, we might as well just build a smarter forum engine tailored to BTS all together...
Plugin development is a tedious process for smf.
This is a great project @fuzzy! I was just planning to test this out on the forums with some UIA's. I think we should continue to experiment openly with tipping & sharing with social currency, Smartcoins and asset-backed UIA's. I think what @Freebieservers said about the business side is very good and tweaking how it works is just part of product development. Having it delivered via PM is good, but you also want to allow people to discover it so you can maintain the viral component of the system. Maybe just have some indicator on the upper right of the post that show the UIA tips... just like karma points on reddit. Just a thought.
The problem with this is the forums aren't even owned by the community/admins? Idk, but I recall being told it was hosted by Bitsapphire. So... really, plugin development is out of the question unless we migrate to a forum engine that the admins actually have full control over. If we were to do that, we might as well just build a smarter forum engine tailored to BTS all together...
Plugin development is a tedious process for smf.
This is a great project @fuzzy! I was just planning to test this out on the forums with some UIA's. I think we should continue to experiment openly with tipping & sharing with social currency, Smartcoins and asset-backed UIA's. I think what @Freebieservers said about the business side is very good and tweaking how it works is just part of product development. Having it delivered via PM is good, but you also want to allow people to discover it so you can maintain the viral component of the system. Maybe just have some indicator on the upper right of the post that show the UIA tips... just like karma points on reddit. Just a thought.
The problem with this is the forums aren't even owned by the community/admins? Idk, but I recall being told it was hosted by Bitsapphire. So... really, plugin development is out of the question unless we migrate to a forum engine that the admins actually have full control over. If we were to do that, we might as well just build a smarter forum engine tailored to BTS all together...
Plugin development is a tedious process for smf.
Meanwhile, we're still sitting on our asses with a white paper that suggested radical changes to governance and socialising amidst forum members from six months back -_-.
If we expect to go against the mainstream, atleast begin in-house solutions fo coordinate the fight against the mainstream :)
I don't see any big advantages when compared to competitors like Dogecoin and Changetip.
My personal opinion on the tipbot as it is now: I don't see any big advantages when compared to competitors like Dogecoin and Changetip. It's just a copy of other tipbots. I suspect that nobody so far have been able to find a solution to tipping/micropayments that will really get some meaningful traction. The solution might have to be a totally new concept that's not invented yet.
My personal opinion on the tipbot as it is now: I don't see any big advantages when compared to competitors like Dogecoin and Changetip. It's just a copy of other tipbots. I suspect that nobody so far have been able to find a solution to tipping/micropayments that will really get some meaningful traction. The solution might have to be a totally new concept that's not invented yet.
fully agree.
and if you do some research, the competition is doing not so well either...
http://www.coindesk.com/dogetipbot-open-source-creator-leaves-crypto/ - Dogecoin Startup Goes Open Source as Creator Says ‘Peace Out’ to Crypto
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3wufzb/tomorrow_is_the_day_changetip_is_going_to_begin/ - Tomorrow is the day Changetip is going to begin charging for withdrawals tipping is not working even less so with fees
I don't see any big advantages when compared to competitors like Dogecoin and Changetip.
This may interest some of you @Samupaha @fuzzy @hybridd : https://twitter.com/AAinslie/status/676497893549830148 (https://twitter.com/AAinslie/status/676497893549830148)
I'm against a bot in its current form.
- Bad image
Investors / entrepreneurs checking out the forum and find users tipping ORGASMS, SPERM or CRAPCOINS to each other isn't that mature or inspiring confidence
- Derailing
Used to bump old and obsolete threads
Yeah exactly, I hate all these social tokens/ shitcoins non of them have any value. If you genuinely like what someone has done ask for there bts account name and send them some BTS. Even brownies are a waste of time IMHO