都是成年人，目的是赚钱。

I see bitshares falling more and more in CMC so where do you make money ?
Or is taking funds from reserve pool making you money ?

Mark ATM:


1.14.236   BAIP-Threshold                                                               488,436,685
1.14.260   Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model               488,273,693

Mark ATM:

1.14.236   BAIP-Threshold                                                                489,243,582
1.14.260   Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model                488,422,933

Quote from: Thul3 on May 28, 2020, 08:57:51 am

Why you care about marketing fee so much ?


To push other gateways to be gone ?

You are pushing legal worker of digital lucifer which is the biggest crap ?

First i thought you have no clue what you are supporting but later seeing digital lucifer in action i understood why you are supporting him.

He already started demanding from gateways papers and if they won't deliver till may to kick them out of bitshares.

Is that your plan ?Supporting his crap so you stay as sole gateway on bitshares in hope more and more users will use only your gateway ?

That's why you conficed CN-Vote to vote for it even big part was against it and at foreigners side not a single supporter you can find other than beneficiants ?

What is the purpose of market fee sharing when at the other side you are working hard on it to kick all other gateways out of bitshares?

I reject this MM as it sole purpose is to push a private business GDEX with community funds and nothing else.

I do not have any idea of kicking other gateways out of bitshares.
but in the MM contest updated rules, the market fee sharing is what gateways pay for the MM service, rudex and xbtsx rejected to participate the MM contest, maybe partly because of this.
no relation with what Digital Lucifer is doing.

Really not ?So you are talking with digital lucifer often on wechat supporting his legal worker and pushing it at cn-vote where he is attacking gateway owners acting like the new owner of bitshares demanding papers from all gateways as he had any authority to do it calling them animals and telling them that he is going to kick them out of bitshares as legal and brand owner and you don't know anything about it ?

Funny cause when you saw i read your messages on wechat you kicked me out to be unable to keep reading your talk with digital lucifer how people are idiots who don't like KYC or that people who are against it are criminals hiding behind anonymous names and that DL will get all their Data and clean the shit.

You don't know anything about it when you talk staff like that with him in a closed wechat group ?And still you are supporting it ?
Looks for me like a clear agenda behind it.

Rather than rejecting this and that, can we start a discussion about what is acceptable? E.G. what fee percent is acceptable for you? 1%? 5%? 10%? 20%? 30%?

Rather than being ignorant ,muting people who doesn't agree on your opinion killing telegram groups ,supporting inside deals ,scam workers,workers which are against community will like legal
and ignoring requests made not from bitcrab or jademont ,it would make sense to listen to the community.

How come so many people are unhappy with your actions even chinese ones ?
You played long enough one men dictator who is executing what bitcrab and jademont is telling you in closed groups?

How many bitshares Admin's and members have you muted and made leaving bitshares ?
You think you have any special rights to do so ?

Here again acting like you want to find a solution but only accepting inside a frame which you and bitcrab would accept and nothing else.


You are asking for solution ?
Easy

fix governance
fix committee
announce fixing price feeds when x happens (as it clearly seems you guys have no real intention in removing threshold)
non custodial wallets and trading (thats something two major chinese committee members don't like for a known reason)
TnT which is mainly for free from Nathan
etc.....

Thats called real progress and not the shit you guys fabricate the last years with your BSIP42,BAIP2,BAIP endless etc ........

You guys are so fixed in parameters that you totaly forgat about progress.All you do is playing parameters and nothing else,trying to get funds from reserve pool in name of marketing,exchanges,mm etc with no positive effect at all.

Trying to get support everywhere even at your worst enemies supporting their witnesses and if they refuse to support your crap taking your support instantly away trying to punish them.
Basicly misusing the voting system.
An invention of some people to use voting system not what is best for bitshares but for punishment and inside deals.
Like yourself not voting for blckchaned because he was loud refusing BSIP76.
Not important if he is big supporter of bitshares and a good witness or not what you care is he disagreed with your opinion/action so you had to punish him.


You created a very toxic bitshares.
You mainly discuss and plan in a closed group without letting other participate for a known reason.
You support inside deals which are crappy for bitshares.
You even justify them openly which foreigners are massivly against.

We don't support inside deals,money grab,abuse and stagnation anymore.

Your solution is crap.We only accept now real progress.
You forced us enough stagnation where diffrent people from diffrent groups asked you hundred times politly to change something which you each time refused acting like a one men show who decides about everything.

You want a solution ?
First soltution will be to limit your power and abuse.

Bitshares members are still muted by you
You still support minority crap and don't execute voters will.

The last committee voting was a good example that nothing changed that as soon as you get the possibility you will enforce your own point of view even majority was clearly against it as it fit in the point of view of 3 known people.

Any estimates how much it would cost to just get the most urgent done ?

When are you going to unmute all admins and bitshares members which you indirectly banned from bitshares telegram groups with your shitty bot ?
You destroyed bitshares already enough and made chats empty.


An excuse to those members would be appropriate.

What we need first is getting trust back from our members so they are willing to deposit again.
Currently all i see is people leaving or getting silent and stupid ideas we had over the last 2 years to growth based on adjusting parameters.

Where is the real user base growth everyone is looking for the past 2 years ?

You think without development of demanded features there will be any growth ?
You think taxation of gateways will bring growth to bitshares ?

People are tired about that nonsense and not willing anymore to listen to it anymore.They accept now only real growth.
Bitshares already wasted enough time with no real progress.


I'm asking myself if it was a good action from my side to protect a big part of chinese community to not get rekkt when reading their BS comments to foreigners to buy more BTS to stop corruption on bitshares.
Your idealogy you talked with digital lucifer i won't even comment here.
All i can say people prefer to leave or fork bitshares rather than staying on a centralized bitshares with no key feature development which you represent and support.

All i see is 3 main chinese people who implemented massive corruption and dictatorship on bitshares making inside deals,kicking out long term witnesses who provided expensive infra to bitshares in exchange to witnesses who don't provide anything,scam workers,abusing and destroment of foreign group chats,centralization of bitshares ,destroying key values from bitshares token over committee destroying confidence into committee and bitassets.
If thats your path to get bitshares great again i doubt it will work.

It's sad to see that such a great project gets destroyed because of this kind of behavior and a community splitted because of the ignorance of one part about the other part.
People are tired to fight the endless war against this ignorance and corruption after such a long time.

As you can see less and less people are participating in bitshares and providing endless hours for no compensation with frustating no results.

Just have a look at the small exchange nash.
They had on average $4k volume per day.It was a dead exchange.After implementing non custodial trading their volume exploded on average to arround $350k.
That is real growth by providing demended features and not what bitshares is playing the last 2 years.