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General Discussion / Re: Coinomat.com Vote for BTS - Current Rank: 2
« on: June 02, 2015, 04:51:56 pm »
These pay to vote things are so sketchy.

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Yea but its a subtle art.
i've beenworking on something and I said frankly to some coin devs : You're going to have to pay us 20 Bitcoin to see your stuff being a part of this and they freaked out. This, inspite of the fact that we saw over 4000 micro-transactions on the platform in a single day with zero marketing. Its a smart marketing technique IMO. That said, yes, its a pile of bull crap.

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Just thought I'd drop by and share my thoughts.

I've worked closely with both Bitshares and Nxt.
Nxt helped us raise 5k around last september to revamp our technology stack on the website and release a better version.
We'd issued what would be a BUIA (bitshares user issued asset) in Nxt - issues on the NXT Asset exchange.
We'd around 1 million tokens and liquidated only around 200k of those tokens to raise the amount.
The strategy was to raise "exactly" what was needed and not to go with how most crowd funds work - raising random, high amounts.
In the 3 months we raised funds, I made it a point to keep donators updated about progress and what I thought we could do better.
I'd promised giving the funders a cut of our profit, and we've been paying dividends succesfully for 3 months now.
I also had the wonderful opportunity of networking within Nxt's ecosystem and finding some amazing contacts.

With Bitshares, my approach was drastically different.
I'd come here at a time we were rolling out our advertising program and we were openly looking at coins that would benefit by working with us.
The most obvious candidate was Bitshares play so I made it a point to visit here, post a brief on what we do and where' we're headed, did the same with the Play talk forum and had little responses. Fuzzy was extremely helpful. Same with Stan, Max and Adam. All marketing leads worked (and continue) to do the same closely with us and we do have a line of products coming up from our end, some of which would have certain aspects of Bitshares integrated into it.


If PLS intends to do things of the same level, they'd have to make themselves more available and open to interaction and integration.
Admittedly, we at FS have been trying to get in touch with them - with  zero responses from the Play team for weeks now.
Sadly, we're also looking at an entire suite of products that fit in perfectly with what they are building.
Given the scale of our user base (100k monthly)  I believe a collaboration would benefit both houses,
So.. here's a random shout out to Hackerfish  - we should talk and hopefully, work together.

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General Discussion / Re: Coinomat.com Vote for BTS - Current Rank: 2
« on: June 01, 2015, 03:06:38 pm »
The solution I'd pitched looks more effective than a riot :P

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You wouldn't know unless you talk to them you know :)
That said, paid vote in's are a subtle way of putting a pay to list model.

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See ? Money talks :)

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General Discussion / Re: Coinomat.com Vote for BTS
« on: May 28, 2015, 01:29:55 pm »
Just not a fan of "voting" in when there's more efficient ways to do things :)

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General Discussion / Re: Coinomat.com Vote for BTS
« on: May 28, 2015, 12:45:50 pm »
I can talk to them on your behalf. I know a few people from the Nxt community.

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General Discussion / Re: Coinomat.com Vote for BTS
« on: May 28, 2015, 10:14:23 am »
May I recommend just paying them a one time fee and having it listed ?

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Freebieservers.com is here
« on: May 26, 2015, 09:06:29 am »
This seems like a great idea!
I've skimmed through it and from what I can tell:
You host free game servers in exchange for users viewing a 2 minute add before playing the game and you incorporate lots of unobtrusive adverts to fund it.
You also host occasional in game votes. The users participate in A/B testing, and advertisers can see how their products are perceived in an anonymous way that is of benefit to the end user.

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Nxt - Case Study

One of our first partner programs was an integration we did with the nxt community  in 2014. A total of 6000 dollars was granted in order to attain users for the wallets at mynxt.info . In order to attain this goal, modals educating users about the uses of Nxt were set up on the platform. In addition, the site moved towards using tokens in order to further integrate the system into the user experience on the site. 

Campaign lasted 3 weeks time frame
10,000+ wallet sign ups
25 percent of the users used the wallets for transactions
Observable hike in number of transactions
Single most effective Ad Campaign by the Nxt Team
Per sign up charge, as low as .60 cents, in comparison with industry average of 12 USD

If a similar campaign was conducted for BitShares you would collect referral fees for those 10k users you signed up, and additional active-user fees for the 25% who continued to use bts. This means that there is no reason for the bts 'campaign' on your platform to be limited to 3 weeks as you are financially rewarded for bringing us more customers!
The full details of the referral program aren't public until sometime in June. But I'd guess you'd have earned a few thousand bts for the 10k sign-ups, and perhaps another few thousand for every transaction the 25% active users make.

If there is a specific product that BitShares can offer to target Freebieservers' users, then the financial reward could be quite substantial for all involved.
The BitShares voting functionality may also be useful for providing advertisers with product polling.

Issuing a UIA would also allow you to retain control over your digital assets whilst at the same time gaining access to the BitShares ecosystem and the potential customers that use it.

NOTE: I'm not sure how much Freebieserver's knows about BitShares but I think it is useful to have this kind of information on public display for other potential business partners to see.

Thanks for taking time out and going through it in detail
Yes, your understanding of the product seems right and that is the direction we are headed at.
We have a suite of side-projects coming up that could use Bitshares in detail (gambling, exchange)  and am researching further on that end.
Bitshares Vote could be utilized for the polling system, but I am not sure on how we benefit from it. That said, yes VOTE could have an amazing user case by which the polling could take place. I'll talk with Adam in regards to it later.

We might list ourselves at GemSpace in the future (for fund raising).

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Freebieservers.com is here
« on: May 25, 2015, 11:02:19 am »
 ::) Need to squeeze out more awesome sauce :/

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Freebieservers.com is here
« on: May 25, 2015, 10:52:46 am »
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15buSmol7Fx1nVbI7wgK3UauX281DtSI_9GwWGfldxzY/edit

Sharing the business plan in light of public interest.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Freebieservers.com is here
« on: May 25, 2015, 01:35:45 am »
I have finished work on the B-plan, in case any of you  would like to have access, feel free to get in touch.
Am keeping it out from public access for the moment.

Sharing numbers from our B-plan


(and yes, we're taking investors :) )

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Freebieservers.com is here
« on: May 24, 2015, 08:52:07 am »
No they aren't.
I didn't want to push this further until the time was right.
I will be updating the thread with info regarding the company's operations (and how Bitshares plugs into the system) later today and be on a Hangout session with Fuzzy to talk about our operations so far and future plans soon enough. Once that's in, I'll have it set up.

The time in between was spent in understanding the ecosystem here and networking with  people. Its been a warm welcome so far and I appreciate everyone that has chimed in via skype, PM


We have a few product lines in beta already catering to a gamer / bitshares demographic. I'll release info as the product goes live.
Appreciate the love and interest shown so far. 

Tl:Dr : We've been working behind the scenes, something good is coming.

P.s  - I've been trying to get in touch with Bitshares Play, the forum..almost seemed dead.

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Good stuff. Did you have to pay for the listing

How much did they charge the last time ?

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Good stuff. Did you have to pay for the listing

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