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Title: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: openledger on November 15, 2015, 04:47:51 pm
Have a heart - Social tipping ShareBits.io makes real-time donations “a walk in the park"


Allowing among others crowd funders to use in real-time donations etc.

To support the BitShares community in making the Sharebits make a difference out there in the real world, and allow an increasing amount of new interested parties, users and projects enjoy the Bitshares 2.0 platform Openledger, the Sharebits has managed to get a space in the Forbes window to the world.

I hope you all enjoy and will help spread the news.

This tipping bot is great for all crypto communities and will help spread the new agenda in the crypto world, that giving and sharing is a lifestyle, and anyone can get that same lifestyle and eventually leave this earth as a happy human being knowing you have made a difference.

Lets give this article a warm welcome with lots of twitter love, facebook and linkedin mentioning as well as Reddit upvotes etc, and then once you are done, you can start tipping all the connections you have managed to bring this message out to, by simply sending them a tip via the new BitShares project Sharebit.io


Enjoy, and lets get the fun started :)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2015/11/15/sharebits-ios-launch-bringing-crypto-technology-to-mass-market-solutions/
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: topcandle on November 15, 2015, 05:02:36 pm
But what technology disrupts, it can also stich together and things could be about to change.

Spelling mistake.  --- instead of stich-- its stitch. 
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: DestBest on November 15, 2015, 07:48:34 pm
I like what you guys bring here!  +5%

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And, as a special promotion, new accounts created during the month of November will receive the token QBits as an incentive or welcome inducement.

Do you already know how many QBits will be given to each account?
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: openledger on November 15, 2015, 08:48:59 pm
I like what you guys bring here!  +5%

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And, as a special promotion, new accounts created during the month of November will receive the token QBits as an incentive or welcome inducement.

Do you already know how many QBits will be given to each account?

1000 to each account, and pls dont confuse this one with OBITS

One is for profits

another is for marketing

One has a rather clear path to greatness, the OBITS

the other I believe is destined for greatness and value as well, but need a lot of love and attention first, but when it has that, it i going to create synergy in teh way that Openledger and BitShares has not seen the likes of it, and then it will sudenly be a great partner to OBITS as well, and will eb abale to stand alone when presented in public.

OUF, just got a little sentimental there, hope you dont mind.

I have great belief i both OpenLedger, OBITS and QBits

Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: Empirical1.2 on November 15, 2015, 09:13:12 pm
Have a heart - Social tipping ShareBits.io makes real-time donations “a walk in the park”!


When you tip are required to pay the standard BTS transfer fee?
Also presumably to claim it, the receiver would have to pay the standard BTS transfer fee at least once to send it to an exchange?



Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: kuro112 on November 15, 2015, 09:50:13 pm
Have a heart - Social tipping ShareBits.io makes real-time donations “a walk in the park”!


When you tip are required to pay the standard BTS transfer fee?
Also presumably to claim it, the receiver would have to pay the standard BTS transfer fee at least once to send it to an exchange?

both correct, however the account is a lifetime account, the network fee is still charged, but the fees paid by the user on claim are distributed to share holders as dividens.
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: carpet ride on November 15, 2015, 09:57:30 pm

Have a heart - Social tipping ShareBits.io makes real-time donations “a walk in the park”!


When you tip are required to pay the standard BTS transfer fee?
Also presumably to claim it, the receiver would have to pay the standard BTS transfer fee at least once to send it to an exchange?

both correct, however the account is a lifetime account, the network fee is still charged, but the fees paid by the user on claim are distributed to share holders as dividens.

who gets the referral credit?
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: Empirical1.2 on November 15, 2015, 10:32:03 pm
Have a heart - Social tipping ShareBits.io makes real-time donations “a walk in the park”!


When you tip are required to pay the standard BTS transfer fee?
Also presumably to claim it, the receiver would have to pay the standard BTS transfer fee at least once to send it to an exchange?

both correct, however the account is a lifetime account, the network fee is still charged, but the fees paid by the user on claim are distributed to share holders as dividens.

I think it's a good initiative Social tipping really helped Dogecoin gain a great deal of traction.

Business Question

The market leaders appear to be Dogecointip & Changtip who both processes the tips off-chain I believe.

The average Doge tip size appears to be <$0.3. https://dogetipbot.com/
(You can see real time reddit tip sizes here for example -  https://www.reddit.com/user/dogetipbot )

There is also Changetip. Their 'Tipworthy service' seems to suggest $0.25 as the standard tip.  https://www.changetip.com/

How does ShareBits.io hope to compete when round trip fees are higher than the average size of social tips?

Wouldn't the transfer fees need to be considerably lower to help spread BTS via social media sharing, tipping & donating?
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: tonyk on November 15, 2015, 10:41:02 pm
Have a heart - Social tipping ShareBits.io makes real-time donations “a walk in the park”!


When you tip are required to pay the standard BTS transfer fee?
Also presumably to claim it, the receiver would have to pay the standard BTS transfer fee at least once to send it to an exchange?

both correct, however the account is a lifetime account, the network fee is still charged, but the fees paid by the user on claim are distributed to share holders as dividens.

I think it's a good initiative Social tipping really helped Dogecoin gain a great deal of traction.

Business Question

The market leaders appear to be Dogecointip & Changtip.

The average Doge tip size appears to be <$0.3. https://dogetipbot.com/
(You can see real time reddit tip sizes here for example -  https://www.reddit.com/user/dogetipbot )

There is also Changetip. Their 'Tipworthy service' seems to suggest $0.25 as the standard tip.  https://www.changetip.com/

How does ShareBits.io hope to compete when round trip fees are higher than the average size of social tips?

Wouldn't the transfer fees need to be considerably lower to help spread BTS via social media sharing, tipping & donating?


It is $0.0275 fee... for god sake...for everyone concerned enough for BTS to invest at least $60 bucks....
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: Empirical1.2 on November 15, 2015, 10:42:25 pm
Have a heart - Social tipping ShareBits.io makes real-time donations “a walk in the park”!


When you tip are required to pay the standard BTS transfer fee?
Also presumably to claim it, the receiver would have to pay the standard BTS transfer fee at least once to send it to an exchange?

both correct, however the account is a lifetime account, the network fee is still charged, but the fees paid by the user on claim are distributed to share holders as dividens.

I think it's a good initiative Social tipping really helped Dogecoin gain a great deal of traction.

Business Question

The market leaders appear to be Dogecointip & Changtip.

The average Doge tip size appears to be <$0.3. https://dogetipbot.com/
(You can see real time reddit tip sizes here for example -  https://www.reddit.com/user/dogetipbot )

There is also Changetip. Their 'Tipworthy service' seems to suggest $0.25 as the standard tip.  https://www.changetip.com/

How does ShareBits.io hope to compete when round trip fees are higher than the average size of social tips?

Wouldn't the transfer fees need to be considerably lower to help spread BTS via social media sharing, tipping & donating?


It is $0.0275 fee... for god sake...for everyone concerned enough for BTS to invest at least $60 bucks....

The person you tip, donate to, or share with, probably will be new basic user, and will have to pay the standard transfer fee to claim/send their funds to an exchange, no?
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: kuro112 on November 15, 2015, 10:43:48 pm
Have a heart - Social tipping ShareBits.io makes real-time donations “a walk in the park”!


When you tip are required to pay the standard BTS transfer fee?
Also presumably to claim it, the receiver would have to pay the standard BTS transfer fee at least once to send it to an exchange?

both correct, however the account is a lifetime account, the network fee is still charged, but the fees paid by the user on claim are distributed to share holders as dividens.

I think it's a good initiative Social tipping really helped Dogecoin gain a great deal of traction.

Business Question

The market leaders appear to be Dogecointip & Changtip.

The average Doge tip size appears to be <$0.3. https://dogetipbot.com/
(You can see real time reddit tip sizes here for example -  https://www.reddit.com/user/dogetipbot )

There is also Changetip. Their 'Tipworthy service' seems to suggest $0.25 as the standard tip.  https://www.changetip.com/

How does ShareBits.io hope to compete when round trip fees are higher than the average size of social tips?

Wouldn't the transfer fees need to be considerably lower to help spread BTS via social media sharing, tipping & donating?

thats a great question, currently we believe this platform will be powerful in markets other than the primary 'tipping' industry, we aim it at money remittance and crowdfunding and therefore the average tip size of those services to not necessarily affect our business model - that being said your mostly correct, the round trip fees are somewhat high and we are working with the bitshares community in hope of having the fees reduced in various ways, for example an IOA asset with the fee pool payed, also the bitshares primary client may see reduced fees soon, allowing a service like ours to succeed with no real changes.

tldr:

if some one is tipping that low your correct for now, but our business model should not see tips or shares that low.

we are working on ways to lower the fees and will keep the community updated.


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The person you tip, donate to or share with probably will be new basic user and will have to pay the standard transfer fee to claim/send their funds to an exchange, no?

fees will be shared betwene the sender (required to send it to us) and the person who claims the tip (tx fee to withdrawal to their wallet)

however fees can be avoided completely by never withdrawing and using the coins within our system.
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: tonyk on November 15, 2015, 10:48:04 pm
Have a heart - Social tipping ShareBits.io makes real-time donations “a walk in the park”!


When you tip are required to pay the standard BTS transfer fee?
Also presumably to claim it, the receiver would have to pay the standard BTS transfer fee at least once to send it to an exchange?

both correct, however the account is a lifetime account, the network fee is still charged, but the fees paid by the user on claim are distributed to share holders as dividens.

I think it's a good initiative Social tipping really helped Dogecoin gain a great deal of traction.

Business Question

The market leaders appear to be Dogecointip & Changtip.

The average Doge tip size appears to be <$0.3. https://dogetipbot.com/
(You can see real time reddit tip sizes here for example -  https://www.reddit.com/user/dogetipbot )

There is also Changetip. Their 'Tipworthy service' seems to suggest $0.25 as the standard tip.  https://www.changetip.com/

How does ShareBits.io hope to compete when round trip fees are higher than the average size of social tips?

Wouldn't the transfer fees need to be considerably lower to help spread BTS via social media sharing, tipping & donating?


It is $0.0275 fee... for god sake...for everyone concerned enough for BTS to invest at least $60 bucks....

The person you tip, donate to, or share with, probably will be new basic user, and will have to pay the standard transfer fee to claim/send their funds to an exchange, no?

It might be just me, but a tip below 2 USD is ether an insult (in real world) or an advertising for the tipping service (in crypto)...not a real tip.

PS
And yes, I consider each and every "tip" send on this forum, up to now ,a pure spam and blunt advertisement and nothing else.
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: Empirical1.2 on November 15, 2015, 10:48:18 pm
Have a heart - Social tipping ShareBits.io makes real-time donations “a walk in the park”!


When you tip are required to pay the standard BTS transfer fee?
Also presumably to claim it, the receiver would have to pay the standard BTS transfer fee at least once to send it to an exchange?

both correct, however the account is a lifetime account, the network fee is still charged, but the fees paid by the user on claim are distributed to share holders as dividens.

I think it's a good initiative Social tipping really helped Dogecoin gain a great deal of traction.

Business Question

The market leaders appear to be Dogecointip & Changtip.

The average Doge tip size appears to be <$0.3. https://dogetipbot.com/
(You can see real time reddit tip sizes here for example -  https://www.reddit.com/user/dogetipbot )

There is also Changetip. Their 'Tipworthy service' seems to suggest $0.25 as the standard tip.  https://www.changetip.com/

How does ShareBits.io hope to compete when round trip fees are higher than the average size of social tips?

Wouldn't the transfer fees need to be considerably lower to help spread BTS via social media sharing, tipping & donating?

thats a great question, currently we believe this platform will be powerful in markets other than the primary 'tipping' industry, we aim it at money remittance and crowdfunding and therefore the average tip size of those services to not necessarily affect our business model - that being said your mostly correct, the round trip fees are somewhat high and we are working with the bitshares community in hope of having the fees reduced in various ways, for example an IOA asset with the fee pool payed, also the bitshares primary client may see reduced fees soon, allowing a service like ours to succeed with no real changes.

tldr:

if some one is tipping that low your correct for now, but our business model should not see tips or shares that low.

we are working on ways to lower the fees and will keep the community updated.


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The person you tip, donate to or share with probably will be new basic user and will have to pay the standard transfer fee to claim/send their funds to an exchange, no?

fees will be shared betwene the sender (required to send it to us) and the person who claims the tip (tx fee to withdrawal to their wallet)

however fees can be avoided completely by never withdrawing and using the coins within our system.

Thanks for the reply. That makes sense that you will attempt to be more involved in money remittance an crowdfunding than competing in the social media tipping & donation market at this stage. (I hope you are able to find a fee solution that makes you a little more competitive in this area, as I think it has a lot of potential.)

Good luck
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: Empirical1.2 on November 15, 2015, 10:52:27 pm
It might be just me, but a tip below 2 USD is ether an insult (in real world) or an advertising for the tipping service (I crypto)...not a real tip.

Yes it's definitely just you :) The social media tipping and donating space is well established and the average and definitely the median are much lower than that. (The median is as low as 3 cents, but obviously that's offchain.)

http://www.coindesk.com/social-tipping-tool-meme-dogecoin-445k/

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The team behind dogetipbot, the popular tipping tool for the alternative digital currency dogecoin, has raised nearly $500,000 in a seed funding round.

“One of the things we’re really looking at is the user experience," Mohland said. "A lot of our traction initially was on Reddit, but we’re seeing a lot of demand on Twitter. So, what we’re working is our user experience, making it seamless.”

With a median tip of around 3 cents, dogetipbot is as much about the social experience of tipping as it is a rail for small payments.

Still the amount of tips you'd need to accumulate to cover the BTS transaction fee (as a basic member) makes it not very suited to the social tipping and donating market at the moment.
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: lovejoy on November 15, 2015, 11:20:31 pm
AWESOME!!!  Even to the casual observer This should reveal the beginnings of truly epic developments in the space.  Referrals ahoy!

Bravo to all who have coordinated to bring this about!
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: kuro112 on November 15, 2015, 11:50:25 pm
It might be just me, but a tip below 2 USD is ether an insult (in real world) or an advertising for the tipping service (I crypto)...not a real tip.

Yes it's definitely just you :) The social media tipping and donating space is well established and the average and definitely the median are much lower than that. (The median is as low as 3 cents, but obviously that's offchain.)

http://www.coindesk.com/social-tipping-tool-meme-dogecoin-445k/

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The team behind dogetipbot, the popular tipping tool for the alternative digital currency dogecoin, has raised nearly $500,000 in a seed funding round.

“One of the things we’re really looking at is the user experience," Mohland said. "A lot of our traction initially was on Reddit, but we’re seeing a lot of demand on Twitter. So, what we’re working is our user experience, making it seamless.”

With a median tip of around 3 cents, dogetipbot is as much about the social experience of tipping as it is a rail for small payments.

Still the amount of tips you'd need to accumulate to cover the BTS transaction fee (as a basic member) makes it not very suited to the social tipping and donating market at the moment.


oh yeah we very much agree with you bro, we are doing our best to work out a fee-mitigation method that works for everyone, but in the end it will probably come down to the BTS network fee its self needing to be changed to ultimately support micro transactions like this.
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: tonyk on November 15, 2015, 11:58:26 pm
It might be just me, but a tip below 2 USD is ether an insult (in real world) or an advertising for the tipping service (I crypto)...not a real tip.

Yes it's definitely just you :) The social media tipping and donating space is well established and the average and definitely the median are much lower than that. (The median is as low as 3 cents, but obviously that's offchain.)

http://www.coindesk.com/social-tipping-tool-meme-dogecoin-445k/

Quote
The team behind dogetipbot, the popular tipping tool for the alternative digital currency dogecoin, has raised nearly $500,000 in a seed funding round.

“One of the things we’re really looking at is the user experience," Mohland said. "A lot of our traction initially was on Reddit, but we’re seeing a lot of demand on Twitter. So, what we’re working is our user experience, making it seamless.”

With a median tip of around 3 cents, dogetipbot is as much about the social experience of tipping as it is a rail for small payments.

Still the amount of tips you'd need to accumulate to cover the BTS transaction fee (as a basic member) makes it not very suited to the social tipping and donating market at the moment.


oh yeah we very much agree with you bro, we are doing our best to work out a fee-mitigation method that works for everyone, but in the end it will probably come down to the BTS network fee its self needing to be changed to ultimately support micros transactions like this.

'needing' is not the right word. BTS does not need to change its fee structure to accommodate a business bring what? 10K/year at its potential top to BTS?
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: kuro112 on November 16, 2015, 12:03:33 am
It might be just me, but a tip below 2 USD is ether an insult (in real world) or an advertising for the tipping service (I crypto)...not a real tip.

Yes it's definitely just you :) The social media tipping and donating space is well established and the average and definitely the median are much lower than that. (The median is as low as 3 cents, but obviously that's offchain.)

http://www.coindesk.com/social-tipping-tool-meme-dogecoin-445k/

Quote
The team behind dogetipbot, the popular tipping tool for the alternative digital currency dogecoin, has raised nearly $500,000 in a seed funding round.

“One of the things we’re really looking at is the user experience," Mohland said. "A lot of our traction initially was on Reddit, but we’re seeing a lot of demand on Twitter. So, what we’re working is our user experience, making it seamless.”

With a median tip of around 3 cents, dogetipbot is as much about the social experience of tipping as it is a rail for small payments.

Still the amount of tips you'd need to accumulate to cover the BTS transaction fee (as a basic member) makes it not very suited to the social tipping and donating market at the moment.


oh yeah we very much agree with you bro, we are doing our best to work out a fee-mitigation method that works for everyone, but in the end it will probably come down to the BTS network fee its self needing to be changed to ultimately support micros transactions like this.

'needing' is not the right word. BTS does not need to change its fee structure to accommodate a business bring what? 10K/year at its potential top to BTS?

well i meant need in the context that it will be required to change to support small transactions, but idk about 10k a year its probably got more potential than that ^^
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: gamey on November 16, 2015, 12:04:22 am
Tipping will bring in people, but people who are motivated to action over $1 are very very rarely going to be high value customers.

It seems a proportional fee structure with a cap would be better.  2 parameters into the system.
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: kuro112 on November 16, 2015, 12:22:11 am
Tipping will bring in people, but people who are motivated to action over $1 are very very rarely going to be high value customers.

It seems a proportional fee structure with a cap would be better.  2 parameters into the system.

could you elaborate on your idea a bit more? i hadn't considered scaling fees
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: Empirical1.2 on November 16, 2015, 12:33:36 am
It might be just me, but a tip below 2 USD is ether an insult (in real world) or an advertising for the tipping service (I crypto)...not a real tip.

Yes it's definitely just you :) The social media tipping and donating space is well established and the average and definitely the median are much lower than that. (The median is as low as 3 cents, but obviously that's offchain.)

http://www.coindesk.com/social-tipping-tool-meme-dogecoin-445k/

Quote
The team behind dogetipbot, the popular tipping tool for the alternative digital currency dogecoin, has raised nearly $500,000 in a seed funding round.

“One of the things we’re really looking at is the user experience," Mohland said. "A lot of our traction initially was on Reddit, but we’re seeing a lot of demand on Twitter. So, what we’re working is our user experience, making it seamless.”

With a median tip of around 3 cents, dogetipbot is as much about the social experience of tipping as it is a rail for small payments.

Still the amount of tips you'd need to accumulate to cover the BTS transaction fee (as a basic member) makes it not very suited to the social tipping and donating market at the moment.


oh yeah we very much agree with you bro, we are doing our best to work out a fee-mitigation method that works for everyone, but in the end it will probably come down to the BTS network fee its self needing to be changed to ultimately support micros transactions like this.

'needing' is not the right word. BTS does not need to change its fee structure to accommodate a business bring what? 10K/year at its potential top to BTS?

It's about the network effect you gain through a large amount of social media users tipping & receiving in your currency, thereby learning about and spreading it. While Dogecoin has limited upsell potential, BTS does via exposing users to BitAssets and other BTS products and services.

The Dogetipbot alone has over 75000 users, while not all Uniques, it's far in excess of total BTS users or users we will likely gain over the next 18 months through most other methods. https://dogetipbot.com/
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: kuro112 on November 16, 2015, 12:39:25 am
It might be just me, but a tip below 2 USD is ether an insult (in real world) or an advertising for the tipping service (I crypto)...not a real tip.

Yes it's definitely just you :) The social media tipping and donating space is well established and the average and definitely the median are much lower than that. (The median is as low as 3 cents, but obviously that's offchain.)

http://www.coindesk.com/social-tipping-tool-meme-dogecoin-445k/

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The team behind dogetipbot, the popular tipping tool for the alternative digital currency dogecoin, has raised nearly $500,000 in a seed funding round.

“One of the things we’re really looking at is the user experience," Mohland said. "A lot of our traction initially was on Reddit, but we’re seeing a lot of demand on Twitter. So, what we’re working is our user experience, making it seamless.”

With a median tip of around 3 cents, dogetipbot is as much about the social experience of tipping as it is a rail for small payments.

Still the amount of tips you'd need to accumulate to cover the BTS transaction fee (as a basic member) makes it not very suited to the social tipping and donating market at the moment.


oh yeah we very much agree with you bro, we are doing our best to work out a fee-mitigation method that works for everyone, but in the end it will probably come down to the BTS network fee its self needing to be changed to ultimately support micros transactions like this.

'needing' is not the right word. BTS does not need to change its fee structure to accommodate a business bring what? 10K/year at its potential top to BTS?

It's about the network effect you gain through a large amount of social media users tipping & receiving in your currency, thereby learning about and spreading it. While Dogecoin has limited upsell potential, BTS does via exposing users to BitAssets and other BTS products and services.

The Dogetipbot alone has over 75000 users, while not all Uniques, it's far in excess of total BTS users or users we will likely gain over the next 18 months through most other methods. https://dogetipbot.com/

amen! tipping was probably the most prolific way for the dogecoin to take off, people spread the doge love to all corners of the internet.

our system now supports the ability to mass generate tips, here spread the love (or claim them all yourself if your greedy):

http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=381&code=XYRTJWzkXptcPneS
http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=382&code=NrGDOwpblxMwqkse
http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=383&code=oGCfpblSJARkOcGg
http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=384&code=vpnvQBpFKZSKDarC
http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=385&code=rPruNQUnIRbwaLvU
http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=386&code=UejYIbHeufjBmxsV
http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=387&code=fySGkePXyXbgNruu
http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=388&code=anSTPbRUkeoQJrRZ
http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=389&code=ZdyGxWaLoxnXeHUV
http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=390&code=xyGVexsByuDgjXej


note the implications of this, you can tip on facebook, twitch, mumble... anywhere now.





Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: tonyk on November 16, 2015, 12:42:57 am
It might be just me, but a tip below 2 USD is ether an insult (in real world) or an advertising for the tipping service (I crypto)...not a real tip.

Yes it's definitely just you :) The social media tipping and donating space is well established and the average and definitely the median are much lower than that. (The median is as low as 3 cents, but obviously that's offchain.)

http://www.coindesk.com/social-tipping-tool-meme-dogecoin-445k/

Quote
The team behind dogetipbot, the popular tipping tool for the alternative digital currency dogecoin, has raised nearly $500,000 in a seed funding round.

“One of the things we’re really looking at is the user experience," Mohland said. "A lot of our traction initially was on Reddit, but we’re seeing a lot of demand on Twitter. So, what we’re working is our user experience, making it seamless.”

With a median tip of around 3 cents, dogetipbot is as much about the social experience of tipping as it is a rail for small payments.

Still the amount of tips you'd need to accumulate to cover the BTS transaction fee (as a basic member) makes it not very suited to the social tipping and donating market at the moment.


oh yeah we very much agree with you bro, we are doing our best to work out a fee-mitigation method that works for everyone, but in the end it will probably come down to the BTS network fee its self needing to be changed to ultimately support micros transactions like this.

'needing' is not the right word. BTS does not need to change its fee structure to accommodate a business bring what? 10K/year at its potential top to BTS?

It's about the network effect you gain through a large amount of social media users tipping & receiving in your currency, thereby learning about and spreading it. While Dogecoin has limited upsell potential, BTS does via exposing users to BitAssets and other BTS products and services.

The Dogetipbot alone has over 75000 users, while not all Uniques, it's far in excess of total BTS users or users we will likely gain over the next 18 months through most other methods. https://dogetipbot.com/

exactly...75K worthless users accounting for what 10Mil of their 12 MIl market cap? I (I mean BTS) does not need this nonsence...as great and as a "proven" social phenomenon you consider it to be.

@kuro112 "amen...god save their souls"
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: alt on November 16, 2015, 12:50:50 am
very nice, I have got 100 BTS, I will give the tip out
I have lost 4 link without save it, and can't find it back
can you support QQ account, every Chinese have  a QQ account

 http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=395&code=FlpumzRzGJWoEoUU
 http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=396&code=IaHdHPQcfDCbSMyF
 http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=397&code=wcBxzASlgeIJcedN
 http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=398&code=mNzdsjCVfmYQDDCs
 http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=399&code=jjiKtuQsxFnItwqb
 http://sharebits.io/Home/Claim?cid=400&code=SxZGDyrbkvVWzGCO

Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: Empirical1.2 on November 16, 2015, 12:51:47 am
It might be just me, but a tip below 2 USD is ether an insult (in real world) or an advertising for the tipping service (I crypto)...not a real tip.

Yes it's definitely just you :) The social media tipping and donating space is well established and the average and definitely the median are much lower than that. (The median is as low as 3 cents, but obviously that's offchain.)

http://www.coindesk.com/social-tipping-tool-meme-dogecoin-445k/

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The team behind dogetipbot, the popular tipping tool for the alternative digital currency dogecoin, has raised nearly $500,000 in a seed funding round.

“One of the things we’re really looking at is the user experience," Mohland said. "A lot of our traction initially was on Reddit, but we’re seeing a lot of demand on Twitter. So, what we’re working is our user experience, making it seamless.”

With a median tip of around 3 cents, dogetipbot is as much about the social experience of tipping as it is a rail for small payments.

Still the amount of tips you'd need to accumulate to cover the BTS transaction fee (as a basic member) makes it not very suited to the social tipping and donating market at the moment.


oh yeah we very much agree with you bro, we are doing our best to work out a fee-mitigation method that works for everyone, but in the end it will probably come down to the BTS network fee its self needing to be changed to ultimately support micros transactions like this.

'needing' is not the right word. BTS does not need to change its fee structure to accommodate a business bring what? 10K/year at its potential top to BTS?

It's about the network effect you gain through a large amount of social media users tipping & receiving in your currency, thereby learning about and spreading it. While Dogecoin has limited upsell potential, BTS does via exposing users to BitAssets and other BTS products and services.

The Dogetipbot alone has over 75000 users, while not all Uniques, it's far in excess of total BTS users or users we will likely gain over the next 18 months through most other methods. https://dogetipbot.com/

exactly...75K worthless users accounting for what 10Mil of their 12 MIl market cap? I (I mean BTS) does not need this nonsence...as great and as a "proven" social phenomenon you consider it to be.

@kuro112 "amen...god save their souls"

Yes you are correct a basic blockchain that is just a Bitcoin clone, with little development is worth 50% more than BTS .

75k users being exposed to BTS products and services and in turn promoting them on social media would be massive. I'm sorry you that you don't understand that. Each user has a value and because of BitAssets, UIA's and other BTS products and services they're a lot more valuable to us than DGC.

They're also not necessarily low value customers either, you would run out of money very fast if you went round tipping $2 (like you suggest) to every tweet you liked or every person in a group you thought might be worth giving BitShares samples too.
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: kuro112 on November 16, 2015, 12:53:42 am
very nice, I have got 100 BTS, I will give the tip out
I have lost 4 link without save it, and can't find it back
can you support QQ account, every Chinese have  a QQ account


QQ ? what is that? link please?
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: fuzzy on November 16, 2015, 01:01:50 am
AWESOME!!!  Even to the casual observer This should reveal the beginnings of truly epic developments in the space.  Referrals ahoy!

Bravo to all who have coordinated to bring this about!

We are doing it to help bitshares kickassssss...um i mean kickstart the Sharing Economy ;)

Thanks to everyone participating!
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: Akado on November 16, 2015, 01:02:20 am
very nice, I have got 100 BTS, I will give the tip out
I have lost 4 link without save it, and can't find it back
can you support QQ account, every Chinese have  a QQ account


QQ ? what is that? link please?

biggest messaging app in china. if you want tips to get more adoption, that's the place to start assuming we still have a significant chinese community.
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: fuzzy on November 16, 2015, 01:03:06 am
very nice, I have got 100 BTS, I will give the tip out
I have lost 4 link without save it, and can't find it back
can you support QQ account, every Chinese have  a QQ account


QQ ? what is that? link please?

QQ is like mumble. Actually more like teamspeak or ventrilo for the chinese community.
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: Empirical1.2 on November 16, 2015, 01:06:08 am
very nice, I have got 100 BTS, I will give the tip out
I have lost 4 link without save it, and can't find it back
can you support QQ account, every Chinese have  a QQ account


QQ ? what is that? link please?

QQ is like mumble. Actually more like teamspeak or ventrilo for the chinese community.

Except with a billion users :)
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: fuzzy on November 16, 2015, 01:16:42 am
very nice, I have got 100 BTS, I will give the tip out
I have lost 4 link without save it, and can't find it back
can you support QQ account, every Chinese have  a QQ account


QQ ? what is that? link please?

QQ is like mumble. Actually more like teamspeak or ventrilo for the chinese community.

Except with a billion users :)

This is actually why i have pivoted from having the bot integrated with mumble, to instead enabling anyone holding beyond bitcoin hangouts on ANY platform to be able to send a simple link to sign a guestbook with their bts address, fill in a captcha and then @bytemaster, @cob, @underwun, @ingenesist, @BunkerChain Labs , @monsterer, @HackFisher and many others can mass send to the guest book of attendees.  ;)

It is very important that we as a community realize that at this stage it is in our best interest to give eachother a strong stake in tools we all need and try to ensure every project maximizes the value proposition to all.  The more boats we lift, the stronger we are.

Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: kuro112 on November 16, 2015, 01:25:06 am
very nice, I have got 100 BTS, I will give the tip out
I have lost 4 link without save it, and can't find it back
can you support QQ account, every Chinese have  a QQ account


QQ ? what is that? link please?

QQ is like mumble. Actually more like teamspeak or ventrilo for the chinese community.

Except with a billion users :)


i did some research on this, it seems they do not have a web api service for us to link with, and their standalone client is actually a facebook app?

anyway looks like the best idea here would be to just generate a tip link and give it to a user for claiming.
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: alt on November 16, 2015, 02:21:22 am
sorry I can't find an English version api document for QQ, it's really suck.
maybe you can try weibo instead of QQ, it's like twiter in China.
http://open.weibo.com/wiki/API%E6%96%87%E6%A1%A3_V2/en
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: kuro112 on November 16, 2015, 02:30:16 am
sorry I can't find an English version api document for QQ, it's really suck.
maybe you can try weibo instead of QQ, it's like twiter in China.
http://open.weibo.com/wiki/API%E6%96%87%E6%A1%A3_V2/en


(http://puu.sh/ln9AZ/711109694a.png)

today i learn you can url encode chinese chars.

we will take a look into weibo thanks ^^
Title: Re: Forbes: ShareBits.io's Launch Bringing 'Crypto' Technology To Mass-Market
Post by: kuro112 on November 17, 2015, 06:59:57 am
looked into this platform, very promising, will probably add soon, thanks so much for the suggestion!