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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Worker Proposal Review
« on: November 11, 2015, 04:00:53 pm »
Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on November 11, 2015, 03:37:05 pm
Quote from: jakub on November 11, 2015, 01:10:00 pm
Quote from: triox on November 11, 2015, 12:32:54 pm
Re. #5: This seems like development done mainly for the benefit of Identibit, I'm not sure why should the Bitshares network pay for it.
Nope, all fiat gateways might need it, no matter if it's BitShares or Identabit.

Not just 'might', they MUST. If you want to have on/off ramps you have to have KYC compliance PERIOD.

If this is not done then the exchanges have to figure out a way to deal with it.. one more reason for them not to make the move.

The only alternative to this is to handle it off-chain. Having it built right into the blockchain is not only more desirable, but also safer.

However.. the previous statement about helping identibit is true.. yet.. it also opens up the market entirely. So unless identibit has some other value propoition.. by having this done we are essentially opening up the whole marketplace.. and giving identibit competition.

We need on/off ramps.. this is the MAJOR thing needed because it's what gives bitcoin it's current dominance.. they have the on/off infrastructure. We make it easier for everyone to use ours so that people can buy bitUSD WITH USD .. then we got the plutonium to power the flux capacitor. (back to the future reference)

^^^^^^

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General Discussion / Re: bitshares is a decentralised exchange. thats all that needs to be said
« on: November 11, 2015, 12:04:46 pm »
this is exactly right.

The exchange should try and imitate the look, feel and features and resources of coinbase. It works and users vote with their feet.
We're decentralized. We have incredible speed with graphene. But we dont have the front end and all the resources that people are looking for imo.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Worker Proposal Review
« on: November 11, 2015, 02:52:04 am »
Quote from: Empirical1.2 on November 11, 2015, 02:13:55 am
Quote from: NotSmart on November 11, 2015, 01:34:04 am
A dollar denominated pay is fair for everyone, both the founding team and the shareholders. They get their assured payment and the shareholders know that the current price has not been manipulated by them to grab extra BTS. I wonder what is the reason that they do not want to accept that.

Yeah obviously shareholders choose dollar denominated pay. I'm sure that won't be a problem as the jobs are priced in dollars & that's how BM is promoting it.

Quote from: bytemaster on November 10, 2015, 09:13:35 pm
Hopefully this will help kickstart a bunch of businesses and remove artificial barriers while helping to fund ongoing maintenance and improvements.  Just $90 per day.

I think we should ask people who want to incorporate bitshares in to their business what the issues are. Adam levine posted on here only a week or two ago and had trouble finding good information. There should be resources included on the site, you shoudnt have to go hunting for it otherwise expect people to go elsewhere.
It always seems to comeback to usability and execution as far as i can tell.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Worker Proposal Review
« on: November 11, 2015, 01:42:56 am »
We want take on other exchanges. Well, i am not a trader, but rather a saver so this post isnt about the intricacies of the trading page. I'man average joe and i suggest that first impressions count. It seems to me usability is one of the main issues. Adam Levine said exactly that in his opening comment.

Let me remind you of the look and feel of the hosted web wallet : https://wallet.bitshares.org

Login page



Trading



Backup



My own opinion is whilst the Devs have givenus something truely great in Graphene, i'm not sure the front end is polished.I know some people like it, but i just dont think it looks as polished as someone like Coinbase. Put a poll out there to non-bitshares users and ask what the perception is in terms of usability. I think we have taken a giant leap forward in terms of the backend, but not in terms of the GUI. (sorry ;)

I would really like to see this addressed in 3.0 ;)

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Worker Proposal Review
« on: November 10, 2015, 06:28:05 pm »
is there anything in here regarding polishing up the user experience in terms of things like css. Maybe i'm using the wrong terms, but the i think the prettiness of the webpages could be polished up a little to compete with people like coinbase and bitfinex.
The functionality is there on these pages, but it look a bit crude on the login page, the permissions page etc.
Just saying if you're trying to compare apples to apples.



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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Worker Proposal Review
« on: November 10, 2015, 06:13:56 pm »
Quote from: donkeypong on November 10, 2015, 05:29:53 pm
Screw the competition. We need this change in place yesterday. It is essential to our framework and user experience. I don't think the price or time frame is outrageous at all; let's get Cryptonomex and Bunker to put this in place and then we'll have the product to attract actual volume.

If you want to have competitions and invite any out-of-work developer whose skills are not well known to the community, then do this later for add-ons.

I agree. Lets get on it. But i would like us to be as specific as possible.  I dont think we can afford to have more front end/usability issues (perceived or not). We need to get it right to shake off this feeling on perpetual development.

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General Discussion / Re: Best Exchange Website
« on: November 10, 2015, 06:59:39 am »
I was thinking about the mult-sig tab


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General Discussion / Re: Best Exchange Website
« on: November 10, 2015, 01:33:26 am »
Quote from: mike623317 on November 09, 2015, 06:02:50 pm
Quote from: ValentinJesse on November 09, 2015, 08:39:41 am
@mike623317 @Xeldal

Or you can do it like this :) (Adapted the CEX.io "Instant Buy" for Graphene.)

Simple


I really like that  +5% +5% +5% +5%
I hope we can consider doing this for the average joe who is not a trader and those who have no interest in trading, just converting fiat in to BTS or Gold, CNY etc.

So if we went with these sort of buttons and fields, perhaps we should keep that look and feel consistent across pages.


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General Discussion / Re: Best Exchange Website
« on: November 09, 2015, 06:02:50 pm »
Quote from: ValentinJesse on November 09, 2015, 08:39:41 am
@mike623317 @Xeldal

Or you can do it like this :) (Adapted the CEX.io "Instant Buy" for Graphene.)

Simple



I really like that  +5% +5% +5% +5%
I hope we can consider doing this for the average joe who is not a trader and those who have no interest in trading, just converting fiat in to BTS or Gold, CNY etc.

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General Discussion / Re: Off-ramp / exchange options in 2.0?
« on: November 09, 2015, 06:42:01 am »

Does anyone know why ShapeShift still has BTS and BitUSD offline?

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General Discussion / Re: Best Exchange Website
« on: November 09, 2015, 04:41:52 am »
Quote from: Xeldal on November 09, 2015, 04:26:04 am
If there is a simple version , I don't think it should be anything with charts / orders books /  markets etc.  I think plain and simple, this -> that, enter how much you want and it returns a price and total cost  and you press go.  Thats it.  Shapeshift would be a good example.

I dont disagree with that. Perhaps that could be under an extra heading.
I wish shapeshift would bring BTS and BitUSD back online  :o

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General Discussion / Re: Best Exchange Website
« on: November 09, 2015, 04:02:00 am »
Is there any merit to having an option for non-trading users? For example, a basic option and an expert option where you can set price and a order expiry.

As a non-trader, i just want to buy x-amount at the spot price and not worry that i am have misunderstood one of the more technical settings?

I took this from metaexchange.info.


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General Discussion / Re: Best Exchange Website
« on: November 08, 2015, 03:02:27 am »
Quote from: ValentinJesse on November 08, 2015, 12:40:24 am
Added the "Open Orders" panel at the bottom (Inspired by Poloniex)



Consider including a new tab or collapsible section for the average joe to purchase. I agree with others that metaexchange do it well.

See : https://metaexchange.info/markets/BTS/BTC

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General Discussion / Re: Best Exchange Website
« on: November 07, 2015, 05:46:53 am »

I think we should be very specific about what we will be asking Cryptonomics to deliver otherwise we could end up with something that isnt perceived as finished/polished to everyones needs and reinforce Adam B Levin's perception that "bitshares is in a perpetual state of being 80% complete".

Tbone has already done a fantastic side by side comparison but in addition to that i would like to add the following points:

1. The site should have a clean login page with the following features:
a. New to Bitshares? = Click here to go a separate page that tells you briefly what it is like im 5 years old. Bitshares is complicated, people are going to have questions from the get-go.
b. Sign In  and Sign Up for existing and new users
c. Help that's comprehensive
d. Products - The Exchange, Developer Platform and Merchant Resources

2. It just works - For example, Coinbase.com works on my IPAD, Iphone, IE, Chrome and Firefox at home or from work without any issue or adjustment. They also have a well thought out Iphone App that works.

3. For us non-traders. -  bitUSD or bitCYN or BitGold - https://metaexchange.info/markets/BTS/BTC. This page couldnt be easier to use or to understand.

4. Coinbase have a section for developers - https://developers.coinbase.com.
Wallet API
Merchant API
Exchange API
Blockchain API
Support section

If we're going to challenge somone like coinbase then we need to make sure that the site is as professional, well thought-out and easy to use as they do. They have all the above together with fiat on and off ramps.

Above all, lets get it right and 100% finished.


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General Discussion / Re: Best Exchange Website
« on: November 06, 2015, 03:02:54 am »
I like bitstamp. I really like their interface. It clean, easy to understand and easy to use.
It just works on my iphone. In IE. In firefox. and in Safari.

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