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Title: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: clayop on November 10, 2015, 01:12:56 pm
Finally, they claimed their balance. I found some of their account and summed the total.

btc38-public-for-bts-cold: 228,400,000 BTS   http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38-public-for-bts-cold
btc38-btsx-octo-72722:       96,200,000 BTS   http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38-btsx-octo-72722
btc38btsxwithdrawal:             6,700,000 BTS  http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38btsxwithdrawal
btc38-btsx-octo-7272:               250.000 BTS  http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38-btsx-octo-7272
btc38-btsx-octo-727222:           119,000 BTS  http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38-btsx-octo-727222
Total: 331,669,000 BTS

HOWEVER, according to my screenshot taken at 10/14, they said that they have 346,759k BTS (maybe this number is higher than 10/13's but IIRC, they said at least 340 mil at the snapshot)

The difference  is about 15,000,000 BTS (122 BTC equivalent)
We need a official response from BTC 38
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: phillyguy on November 10, 2015, 01:50:57 pm
How do you know this is all of their accounts?
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: clayop on November 10, 2015, 01:52:54 pm
How do you know this is all of their accounts?

They may have more. So we need their official response.
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: Xypher on November 10, 2015, 02:01:46 pm
Wow, so if am reading this right, close to 20 percent of all bitshares in existence is at btc38?
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: svk on November 10, 2015, 02:11:46 pm
Wow, so if am reading this right, close to 20 percent of all bitshares in existence is at btc38?

There's 2,533,321,716 BTS in existence not counting the "reserve fund" so it's more like 13%.
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: Empirical1.2 on November 10, 2015, 02:46:25 pm
Good news. Glad BTC38 is upgrading  & that they have at least 96% of funds  :)
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: Moon on November 10, 2015, 03:32:17 pm
good news   +5%
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: gunailei on November 10, 2015, 03:34:39 pm
10000bts send to btc38=10000bts*(1+0.01)+1000doge   just go go go!!!  only 12 hours.
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: alt on November 10, 2015, 03:36:53 pm
10000bts send to btc38=10000bts*(1+0.01)+1000doge   just go go go!!!  only 12 hours.
LOL, BTC38 want to create more fake BTS?
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: gunailei on November 10, 2015, 03:39:34 pm
10000bts send to btc38=10000bts*(1+0.01)+1000doge   just go go go!!!  only 12 hours.
LOL, BTC38 want to create more fake BTS?
Recharge virtual currency will receive an additional 1% of the presented (RMB 0.5%), while the withdrawal of money is required to charge 1% of the fee. For example, if you charge 1000 yuan, the actual arrival will be 1005 yuan, if you withdraw 10 yuan, the actual arrival of 9.9
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: gunailei on November 10, 2015, 03:41:53 pm
截至明天(11日)中午12点,您在时代账户每持有1万个BTS(不满1万部分忽略不计),就可额外获赠1千个狗狗币
 :P
10000bts=10000bts+1000doge
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: mint chocolate chip on November 10, 2015, 03:42:10 pm
How about their vested balance, figuring that in would that make up the difference of what they are missing?
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: happybit on November 10, 2015, 03:44:53 pm
Wow, so if am reading this right, close to 20 percent of all bitshares in existence is at btc38?

There's 2,533,321,716 BTS in existence not counting the "reserve fund" so it's more like 13%.

What is the "reserve fund" total?  is it still 10% ?
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: happybit on November 10, 2015, 03:50:33 pm
Finally, they claimed their balance. I found some of their account and summed the total.

btc38-public-for-bts-cold: 228,400,000 BTS   http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38-public-for-bts-cold
btc38-btsx-octo-72722:       96,200,000 BTS   http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38-btsx-octo-72722
btc38btsxwithdrawal:             6,700,000 BTS  http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38btsxwithdrawal
btc38-btsx-octo-7272:               250.000 BTS  http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38-btsx-octo-7272
btc38-btsx-octo-727222:           119,000 BTS  http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38-btsx-octo-727222
Total: 331,669,000 BTS

HOWEVER, according to my screenshot taken at 10/14, they said that they have 346,759k BTS (maybe this number is higher than 10/13's but IIRC, they said at least 340 mil at the snapshot)

The difference  is about 15,000,000 BTS (122 BTC equivalent)
We need a official response from BTC 38

How many different users do they have who hold all these BTS?
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: tamehuang on November 10, 2015, 03:59:50 pm
thank you clayop.  you are so enthusiastic.  ;) ;)

actually we still have dozens of accounts which do not showed on the page. At the same time, we nerver converted any BTSV to BTS in our wallet (about 33 million).

I am BTC38. My English is poor. I do not know if you can understand me. thank you.  :) :)
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: BTSdac on November 10, 2015, 04:07:41 pm
 +5%
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: tamehuang on November 10, 2015, 04:10:13 pm
我还是说中文吧,我的英文并不能很好的表达,而且手机也不是很方便查询中英词典。

事实上,我们从交易中收取到的0.1%的BTS手续费,从来没有卖出过,我们更愿意和大家一样,通过持有一定数量的BTS来获得未来更好的发展。

 8)没想到这里有这么多用户在
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: alt on November 10, 2015, 04:10:26 pm
thank you clayop.  you are so enthusiastic.  ;) ;)

actually we still have dozens of accounts which do not showed on the page. At the same time, we nerver converted any BTSV to BTS in our wallet (about 33 million).

I am BTC38. My English is poor. I do not know if you can understand me. thank you.  :) :)
I think BTC38 should have earned at least 30M bts from the trade fee
so just show us the balance with 100% reserve at least.
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: tamehuang on November 10, 2015, 04:17:10 pm
thank you clayop.  you are so enthusiastic.  ;) ;)

actually we still have dozens of accounts which do not showed on the page. At the same time, we nerver converted any BTSV to BTS in our wallet (about 33 million).

I am BTC38. My English is poor. I do not know if you can understand me. thank you.  :) :)
I think BTC38 should have earned at least 30M bts from the trade fee
so just show us the balance with 100% reserve at least.

对的,请等待大约两周的时间,我们正在对所有数字货币的冷热钱包进行重新的梳理,实际上没有任何一个交易所像BTC38一样透明,让大家放心是我们的义务。

请耐心等待一阵子。抱歉。
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: Moon on November 10, 2015, 04:22:30 pm
老黄来解答了,支持
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: clayop on November 11, 2015, 05:39:11 am
thank you clayop.  you are so enthusiastic.  ;) ;)

actually we still have dozens of accounts which do not showed on the page. At the same time, we nerver converted any BTSV to BTS in our wallet (about 33 million).

I am BTC38. My English is poor. I do not know if you can understand me. thank you.  :) :)
I think BTC38 should have earned at least 30M bts from the trade fee
so just show us the balance with 100% reserve at least.
+5%
I won't use btc38 until it shows 100% reserve
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: lzr1900 on November 11, 2015, 06:35:07 am

thank you clayop.  you are so enthusiastic.  ;) ;)

actually we still have dozens of accounts which do not showed on the page. At the same time, we nerver converted any BTSV to BTS in our wallet (about 33 million).

I am BTC38. My English is poor. I do not know if you can understand me. thank you.  :) :)
I think BTC38 should have earned at least 30M bts from the trade fee
so just show us the balance with 100% reserve at least.

对的,请等待大约两周的时间,我们正在对所有数字货币的冷热钱包进行重新的梳理,实际上没有任何一个交易所像BTC38一样透明,让大家放心是我们的义务。

请耐心等待一阵子。抱歉。
支持老黄。时代很有良心了。
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: Moon on November 11, 2015, 09:47:05 am
thank you clayop.  you are so enthusiastic.  ;) ;)

actually we still have dozens of accounts which do not showed on the page. At the same time, we nerver converted any BTSV to BTS in our wallet (about 33 million).

I am BTC38. My English is poor. I do not know if you can understand me. thank you.  :) :)
I think BTC38 should have earned at least 30M bts from the trade fee
so just show us the balance with 100% reserve at least.
+5%
I won't use btc38 until it shows 100% reserve


you use polo  ?   also no  100% reserve
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: alt on November 11, 2015, 10:25:31 am
I still use btc38, but I withdraw all of my BTS every time after trade.
I don't use polo.

BTC38 said they will show us BTC's cold wallet about 1 year ago,
until now, we see nothing, and they seems have forgot it totally.
this is what I know about BTC38.
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: liondani on November 11, 2015, 12:05:12 pm
Guess what....
our "internal" decentralized exchange was,is and will be 100% solvent at any time.... simple as that!
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: xeroc on November 11, 2015, 02:08:06 pm
Guess what....
our "internal" decentralized exchange was,is and will be 100% solvent at any time.... simple as that!
ehm .. close .. very close .. let me rephrase:

our "internal" decentralized exchange was, is and will be >100% solvent at any time.... simple as that!

:P
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: clayop on November 11, 2015, 09:06:33 pm
thank you clayop.  you are so enthusiastic.  ;) ;)

actually we still have dozens of accounts which do not showed on the page. At the same time, we nerver converted any BTSV to BTS in our wallet (about 33 million).

I am BTC38. My English is poor. I do not know if you can understand me. thank you.  :) :)
I think BTC38 should have earned at least 30M bts from the trade fee
so just show us the balance with 100% reserve at least.
+5%
I won't use btc38 until it shows 100% reserve


you use polo  ?   also no  100% reserve
At least Polo opened all their accounts.
BTC38 is hiding their account, why?
And revealed accounts show a lack of balance.
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: Moon on November 12, 2015, 12:17:55 am
thank you clayop.  you are so enthusiastic.  ;) ;)

actually we still have dozens of accounts which do not showed on the page. At the same time, we nerver converted any BTSV to BTS in our wallet (about 33 million).

I am BTC38. My English is poor. I do not know if you can understand me. thank you.  :) :)
I think BTC38 should have earned at least 30M bts from the trade fee
so just show us the balance with 100% reserve at least.
+5%
I won't use btc38 until it shows 100% reserve


you use polo  ?   also no  100% reserve
At least Polo opened all their accounts.
BTC38 is hiding their account, why?
And revealed accounts show a lack of balance.


no,you don't know how many ’bts‘  at polo
polo may have hidden account too.
No one  Exchange tells you
This is the reason for bts existence
is that right ? :)
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: jsidhu on November 12, 2015, 06:02:25 am
How do we know what the reserve balance of btc38 "should be"? Can someone confirm this? I feel as if there is a ponzi running underneath our feet.

Im probably right, as with central exchanges you are guilty until proven innocent but just incase im wrong id like to clear my paranoia with some clarification to what is expected vs what is said
Title: Re: BTC38's Fractional Balance?
Post by: abit on November 27, 2015, 01:50:03 pm
Any news?