some days ago I was almost 50% down...right now Im near of being positive again 

I regret my order at 450 didnt get filled....I will never forgive myself for that.....but anyway Im already pretty loaded 

Quote from: CoinHoarder on June 27, 2016, 06:56:23 pm

but disdain for idea #1 should not be a reason to write off the other ideas.

Absolutely. Bootstrapping liquidity is very important. And for the DEX to actually be decentralized, we really need something better than OPEN.X assets which have all the counterparty risk that centralized exchanges have. Multisig sidechains are one way of solving that. Can you explain what the  SuperNext and B&C Exchange model for solving the counterparty risk problem is?

arhag,

we can say dex is already decentrilized, we can create bitLTC bitETH bitBTC bit SUMO, but we dont liquidity........
Supernet is another gateway multisg. Sidechain, for me is a big thing without guarantee that people will want to lock their btc to bring a virtual btc into dex.......it does not make my mind because if they wantt to put their btc in dex in a decentrilized way, investing,they can do using smartasset, including creating smartbaskets collateralized by bts.......for me huge cost without any guarantee........n we know that smartcoins works but we do not have liquidity

exchange.assets is part of ecosystem, without gateways smartcoins cannot grow, trade n store value in a decentrilized way. of course is better to have a gateway of bitcny, bitusd...but we have to respect the stabilished ecosystem that exist right now n change it slownly.......

more exchanges using te software more fees it will generate, more development, more interest n more apreciation.

Which gateway is this?

Its gateway from ripple labs......never used tough.....but numbers a good.

I really dont like system like dgx tether...... Its more the same that will lead to fraud n scams

Its is unfair to call bitgold is backed by promisses....its  strongly backed by a pretty good asset in crypto world, n the best thing  in a decentrilized way.

Like ivy said.....if tweak is needed lets do it.....but bitassets concept as a whole is the best that crypto space ever created to decentrilize n guarantee what you own......

at frontpage you will find at bottom some videos for this 
take a gooooooood read here will help you too http://docs.bitshares.eu/

a lot of cool things n how to deal with openledger n his markets you will find https://www.reddit.com/r/BitShares n steemit.com always brand new things

Welcome 

OK, I am pretty much done with the OP pending any other thoughts jumping into my head (or feedback from replies).

Quote from: bitsharesbrazil on June 27, 2016, 01:20:13 am

Coinhoder,

I will give my input.

Bitshares model is pretty stable.......n is innovative by itself......what bitshares have we can call it 3.0, 4.0....whatever......
Too much people looking for problems because a lot ofcoins had huge pumps n Bitshares "only" made 50% in the last few days.....
I follow a lot of data about bitshares n other projects n can safely say bitshares can explode at any time, it will, it has everything needed to make crypto scene shake hard. be patient about ROI.

This reasoning was not developed based on the past 3 days of market indications, but instead from a year and a half of market indications, and two years worth of many discussions/debates with Bitshares' antagonists on Bitcointalk.

No offense, but the lazy mantra of "Bitshares will explode at any time" and "Liquidity will increase with adoption" has been used for two years with no to little effect. It is time to take matters into our own hands, and realize there are issues with Bitshares that we need to fix.

I agree with 2) without it it will go nowhere....does not mater if we have more n more stuff n new things.....work on what can improve liquidity n adoption is a must...I will take a look at those topics, thanks for input.

about 3 Im not convinced that more money is the problem here, would be great for sure, but we should make something sustainable n useful without focusing too much about creating new things......in my opinion we should focus pretty much about people use what we have, because hide behind development on somenthing is pretty much what factom maid n others do.....but do they will delivery something useful n needed for crypto world?

pretty smooth the second one