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Other => OpenLedger => Graveyard => Nanocard => Topic started by: openledger on July 11, 2015, 06:45:15 pm
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Dear all,
I know I have been telling everyone it was about this time you could all go to CCEDK and have your NanoCard activated, well I am sorry to say it is not yet possible. Our team at CCEDK have prepared all for final integration, but the part connectiing to banks and partners is a more complicated matter, which is taking longer than initially anticipated.
My partner is meeting up with the involved parties this coming week, and I will try to use this thread to keep you updated once a week, as it seems right now minimum two more weeks realistically, sorry to say. I guess this is what happens when many technical aspects have to be combined into something long lasting an fully functional.
All the best from here
Ronny Boesing
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@Ronny, i'm just happy you guys are working on this kind of product/service to begin with, and happy to keep waiting for the integration. Thanks for the updates and keeping the community involved.
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If I already activated my card @bit-x, can I still link it with ccedk (and get it unlinked @bit-x)?
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If I already activated my card @bit-x, can I still link it with ccedk (and get it unlinked @bit-x)?
Yes, that would be no problem, and with no additional charges
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Careful, I think Butterfly Labs has a copyright on the phrase "two weeks" ;D
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Tech issues or negociations are still happening?
Holding my breath--- we've seen the banks pull out of partnerships so many times already...
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Tech issues or negociations are still happening?
Holding my breath--- we've seen the banks pull out of partnerships so many times already...
They are definitely still happening, but you said it yourself, the technical issues with financial side is taking longer than first anticipated. we have meeting agai coming week about the progress and how is the time frame. Thes things take longer from other side, and all we have to do is wait and be patient no matter how har it is really
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I will try to use this thread to keep you updated once a week
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Yes, I do apologize for this.
If all goes well, we should be able to offer this finally sometime next week.
We have last weeks been depending on the backend devs to come back from vacation, and thats actually what is th holdup right now, the fact that devs need vacation, imagine that :)
Joke aside, it is great news and I cant wait to say a date plus minus 1, still thats too early as mani dev is back only monday.
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Take your time and get it right first time ;)
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thanks for the update +5%
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thanks for the update +5%
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so, can I use my nanocard now or is this still not possible?
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so, can I use my nanocard now or is this still not possible?
If you activate at bitx you can use it now... I use it all the time
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so, can I use my nanocard now or is this still not possible?
If you activate at bitx you can use it now... I use it all the time
Where to put my funds ccedk or bit-x exchange?
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so, can I use my nanocard now or is this still not possible?
If you activate at bitx you can use it now... I use it all the time
Where to put my funds ccedk or bit-x exchange?
Still at Bit-x. Will let everybody know here when up on CCEDK
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so, can I use my nanocard now or is this still not possible?
If you activate at bitx you can use it now... I use it all the time
Where to put my funds ccedk or bit-x exchange?
Still at Bit-x. Will let everybody know here when up on CCEDK
all the hype and advertising for nothing. I don't trust bit-x and refuse to use them. nanocard should've been live for some time now as promised.
Is there a way to get bitcoin back paid on the card?
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I am still waiting with my temporary(?) worthless nano card... Any news on when we will be able to activate it on CCEDK? :-\
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so, can I use my nanocard now or is this still not possible?
If you activate at bitx you can use it now... I use it all the time
Where to put my funds ccedk or bit-x exchange?
Still at Bit-x. Will let everybody know here when up on CCEDK
all the hype and advertising for nothing. I don't trust bit-x and refuse to use them. nanocard should've been live for some time now as promised.
Is there a way to get bitcoin back paid on the card?
I dont believe we should disregard it all, it is really just with some unfortunate delays, it seems not so unusual in crypto industry, but give me untill next week to tell you more. Will be away with meeting talking about nanocard among others and getting a fix on it all with the investors behind.
An extra comment to this is, it is as frustrating to me as it is to you guys if not even more, but still have faith in this to turn into a great product for all using it.
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you have been saying 2 week for 3 month now, promising regular updates. Before that you did not even mention, that it is not yet possible to use the nanocard with ccedk, you just sold it like it was already possible. there has been no information at all, once it was your partners, then your programmers have been in holidays, then you just vanished again. This is not what i was sold month ago. Can i get my money back?
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you have been saying 2 week for 3 month now, promising regular updates. Before that you did not even mention, that it is not yet possible to use the nanocard with ccedk, you just sold it like it was already possible. there has been no information at all, once it was your partners, then your programmers have been in holidays, then you just vanished again. This is not what i was sold month ago. Can i get my money back?
Dear Derkorb,
I am the first to say I am sorry for this delay. I can see you have no understanding for the various probematic issues connected with a project like this. We have from day 1 been saying that our partner site is available as long as we are not updated yet, even in our articles we have referrred to bit-x as long as we are not up, so it seems to me really that you have been expecting me to fill you in on every little aspect and i am sorry I have simply not had this kind of time.
many things can be done better, no doubt about it, and things are getting better step by step, obviously not in the pace you like it to be, and I can only say I am sorry for that.
If you want your money back, well, if you have not activated at bit-x yet, sure no problem. The last thing I need is someone not satisfied, so please do tell me either here or in an e-mail in which way I can help you, and it will be done.
Once again I do apologize if I have not been able to answer you when you have needed it, that part is really all a question of too many things to do, and too little time to do it. It's a human thing.
I dont see any reason in this answer to tell you that we have finally received the api and have the people connect as we speak but do it anyways, but that is in any case the fact, whether you decide to believe or not. Only sad to see comments like this, and wish things could have been better.
Rgds
Ronny
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I hate to say it, but you have been warned. That's what usually happens when you over-hype and over-promise an unfinished product.
how would you feel as customer? reading in the news left and right about a worldchanging crypto card, you buy it and literally nothing happens for months.
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Looking forward to the day where the card can be backed up by BitFIAT using BTS 2.0 debit features. IMO that is where this product would really shine, there are already dozens of bitcoin cards out there.. and they all have the same problem, funds must be at the exchange ..
I'd say get it going.. or somebody else will 8) ;D
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Any news, Ronny ?
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Is this dead?
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Is this dead?
I'm going to guess it's not dead... but on life support, and still a long way out. It's too bad that CCEDK pumped this so hard during the summer. I understand delays happen, but why keep saying it's "2 weeks" away when really they have no idea? Just more fuel to add to BTS shorts fire.
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No answer? What's going on. I'm tired of this reoccurring broken promises in bitshares world. If you haven't got your ducks in a row just don't announce to the piblic
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Is this dead?
What can I say that does not repeat itself. I am the first to say I am sorry about the delay. I doubt any of you out there is hurtuing as much as myself not being able to increase the user base simply because of constant new development creating delays in adding this to exchange.
It's been like this for three months now, and it is sad that the advertising in media is only creating business for one partner in all of this nĀ“being bit-x but whan all si said in this, Bit-x is running and offering the product, and there has not been any time where we have not offered the option to get the product at Bit-x.
It is just out part and lack of updated api's for one that makes a crazy delay hard for anyone to grasp, little alone myself who is the one to bring the news to all of you.
I can only say patience, it is fully up and running with the new limits and fees and will also be introduced on CCEDK once we are in coming week(s) able to announce the activation., untill then the alternative is Bit-x.
Thanks for you support so far.
Another comment to add is that although some development is not presented as imagined other ones are coming, and although this is not fully up to expectations, as long as you move forward what is there to be so negative about? We are all in this together, if you have some money outstanding in this abd cannot operate the Nanocard, let me know!! I believe it is in our end, we can say that we are loosing money every day by the delays and feel somehow that is being forgotten in all of this, as if we do these delays on purpose, really the guys are doing all they can, but these things do not depend only on our side.
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Any news ?
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Any news ?
We have received API, so it is under testing and will be up as soon as all is ok with testing, i could be coming week if all works without futher delays, and the good news is that we will then proceed with the works of having it implemented on Openledger as well, so the next coming weeks wil be exciting as we need ofcourse to have a fiat pegged currency supporting the card, which we are able to count on bring sufficient liquidity to support it.
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I would also like to request a refund for this non-product. What is the process? My card was never activated.
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I would also like to request a refund for this non-product. What is the process? My card was never activated.
Can we agree to o the following. I understand your dispair for this long wait. It has always been possible to activateon bit-x but I accept you wanted to do it in CCEDK.
So her is my proposal. If we have not NanoCard activated within the next 14 days, i will refund you the cost of the card.
How does that sound. I still believe its going to be activated, but I really cant keep saying this, you have to understand the one the most fraustrated here is me, as I loose lots of goodwill on this, but believe it is all back again once up an fully running.
and hope you will even follow the next step on Openledger then.
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So her is my proposal. If we have not NanoCard activated within the next 14 days, i will refund you the cost of the card.
I suppose this was a general offer. 14 days are over, so I'd like to get a refund for mine. My ccedk account name is "cyrano".
Thanks,
Peter
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energies of the sky
fly to ccedk and all involved powers
make the nanocard work
put the luck in place
so it clicks
and a new chapter will unfold
as we pace towards the future on a tunnel of light floor of white light and sparkles
atomic carpet in hyperspace..yeah!
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So her is my proposal. If we have not NanoCard activated within the next 14 days, i will refund you the cost of the card.
I suppose this was a general offer. 14 days are over, so I'd like to get a refund for mine. My ccedk account name is "cyrano".
Thanks,
Peter
I want a full refund for my card also. My ccedk account name is "liondani"
"Thanks",
Daniel Schwarz
liondani
(https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-Pcqkj397TW0%2FTavicyC-YqI%2FAAAAAAAAA20%2FHqsUm1Rb31s%2Fs1600%2Fdisappointment.jpg&sp=40ca7553f577e2b97c5ab174bdc89bcb)
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I want a full refund for my card also.
My ccedk account name is "iHashFury"
Disappointed.
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@ccedk
Are you issuing refunds?
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Ronny,
I sent a you PM on Friday (14d) following up on this offer but have not heard back. Is this still happening? I think goodwill of your customers is worth far more than than 0.1 BTC at this point.
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So her is my proposal. If we have not NanoCard activated within the next 14 days, i will refund you the cost of the card.
I suppose this was a general offer. 14 days are over, so I'd like to get a refund for mine. My ccedk account name is "cyrano".
Thanks,
Peter
sorry for the delay. send me here or in pm your btc deposit adress, and I will have it sent to you asap, thanks
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So her is my proposal. If we have not NanoCard activated within the next 14 days, i will refund you the cost of the card.
I suppose this was a general offer. 14 days are over, so I'd like to get a refund for mine. My ccedk account name is "cyrano".
Thanks,
Peter
I want a full refund for my card also. My ccedk account name is "liondani"
"Thanks",
Daniel Schwarz
liondani
(https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-Pcqkj397TW0%2FTavicyC-YqI%2FAAAAAAAAA20%2FHqsUm1Rb31s%2Fs1600%2Fdisappointment.jpg&sp=40ca7553f577e2b97c5ab174bdc89bcb)
sorry for the delay. send me here or in pm your btc deposit adress, and I will have it sent to you asap, thanks
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I want a full refund for my card also.
My ccedk account name is "iHashFury"
Disappointed.
sorry for the delay. send me here or in pm your btc deposit adress, and I will have it sent to you asap, thanks
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@ccedk
Are you issuing refunds?
sure, if you dont want to make use of the card via bit-x because you only want it connected via CCEDK, I have no problem giving a refund.
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Ronny,
I sent a you PM on Friday (14d) following up on this offer but have not heard back. Is this still happening? I think goodwill of your customers is worth far more than than 0.1 BTC at this point.
sorry for the delay. send me here or in pm your btc deposit adress, and I will have it sent to you asap, thanks
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did you take care of the one I send you over telegram? or should I ask him for details?
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@ccedk I do not want to use my nanocard with Bit-x but rather with CCEDK. As long as this is still in the plans, to use that card with CCEDK, I can wait and don't want a refund.
If the card I purchased can not be used in CCEDK in the future, then I would also request for a refund. Please advise.
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@ccedk I do not want to use my nanocard with Bit-x but rather with CCEDK. As long as this is still in the plans, to use that card with CCEDK, I can wait and don't want a refund.
If the card I purchased can not be used in CCEDK in the future, then I would also request for a refund. Please advise.
Thank you for the support, and belief in CCEDK. Ofcourse I woul tell you and anybody here if it was not going to happen. It took 1 year for the BTS 2.0 to finally happen but it did and it is growing every day. Delays when involved in technical wonders I guess w cannot always get it the time frame we expect it and even are promised, but now it seems here, an full info will be presetned once I have the confirmation from the devs. You should able to activate sometime this week. They are spending a bit time at teh moment getting all information organized, since the conditions in general for all EU based users have been improved a lot, but the anonymous the opposite.
And obsiously, I have no problem returning 0,1 btc to the ones being impatient. I can only apologize for not bing able to deliver in teh time expected. We are going to show the worl however, that sometimes thngs are worth waiting for, and although it is possible to activate now and have it fully functional, all the goo stuff will happen from early February, but more on that later.
You are welcome to have a peak anyways, as all the information you can expect from nanocard in future is already laid out on the website www.nanocard.eu
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What do you mean regarding "anonymous" ?
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You should able to activate sometime this week....
And obsiously, I have no problem returning 0,1 btc to the ones being impatient.
We waited about 5 months and you call us impatient?
Have you said somewhere else except after this post that we will be able to activate this week? :o
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You should able to activate sometime this week....
And obsiously, I have no problem returning 0,1 btc to the ones being impatient.
We waited about 5 months and you call us impatient?
Have you said somewhere else except after this post that we will be able to activate this week? :o
Look I have already said many times, that I must be the most disappointed here about the speed in all of this. Call it what you want, everybody have been told from day one that there was the option of having the card activated on another exchange, simply to give all the liberty of trying out the card untill we were able to offer the same comditions.
I cannot keep discussing this, I can understand when people get impatient, but it is not like you have not had another choice, so the only one who has lost here is CCEDK and me because of my belief in things to happen when I am told they will happen, and i am the only one without a choice, but I keep going, believing things will happen anyways.
Anyone has had had a choice, I have not, so lets just move forward. I really have no time to discuss the depth of impatience and who is to blame.
I have no problem taking this blame, and would like to focus on NanoCard actually getting activated on CCEDK and what comes after, I dont have time to dwell in what could have been, sorry I just dont have the time for this luxury.
I have also already said more times that i will not say when its ready untill it really is, but I do need to answer the ones who feels they wish to support something which have been taking much more energy from my side than you can ever imagine.
Disappointed, yes, loosing faith and belief that it will not happen, no.
And if you ever ask me I will answer what I believe and not what anyone else is saying just because of delays.
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What do you mean regarding "anonymous" ?
anyone having a card not being validated
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You should able to activate sometime this week....
And obsiously, I have no problem returning 0,1 btc to the ones being impatient.
We waited about 5 months and you call us impatient?
Have you said somewhere else except after this post that we will be able to activate this week? :o
Look I have already said many times, that I must be the most disappointed here about the speed in all of this. Call it what you want, everybody have been told from day one that there was the option of having the card activated on another exchange, simply to give all the liberty of trying out the card untill we were able to offer the same comditions.
I cannot keep discussing this, I can understand when people get impatient, but it is not like you have not had another choice, so the only one who has lost here is CCEDK and me because of my belief in things to happen when I am told they will happen, and i am the only one without a choice, but I keep going, believing things will happen anyways.
Anyone has had had a choice, I have not, so lets just move forward. I really have no time to discuss the depth of impatience and who is to blame.
I have no problem taking this blame, and would like to focus on NanoCard actually getting activated on CCEDK and what comes after, I dont have time to dwell in what could have been, sorry I just dont have the time for this luxury.
I have also already said more times that i will not say when its ready untill it really is, but I do need to answer the ones who feels they wish to support something which have been taking much more energy from my side than you can ever imagine.
Disappointed, yes, loosing faith and belief that it will not happen, no.
And if you ever ask me I will answer what I believe and not what anyone else is saying just because of delays.
Everyone knows that there are delays with technology and development. The reason why people are getting pissed is because you continue to advertise the hell out of the nanocard. On your most recent post about obit's you advertise it, yet it still isn't available. If you don't have a working product, don't advertise it. Simple as that.
The nanocard debacle is the reason why I am not buying OBITS.
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sorry for the delay. send me here or in pm your btc deposit adress, and I will have it sent to you asap, thanks
Received, thanks!
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So her is my proposal. If we have not NanoCard activated within the next 14 days, i will refund you the cost of the card.
I suppose this was a general offer. 14 days are over, so I'd like to get a refund for mine. My ccedk account name is "cyrano".
Thanks,
Peter
I want a full refund for my card also. My ccedk account name is "liondani"
"Thanks",
Daniel Schwarz
liondani
sorry for the delay. send me here or in pm your btc deposit adress, and I will have it sent to you asap, thanks
My BTC address for the nanocard refund
1BShJ9f3KuAbQKUWw9Qp7U73Usp8ddMcgQ
Thanks
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So her is my proposal. If we have not NanoCard activated within the next 14 days, i will refund you the cost of the card.
I suppose this was a general offer. 14 days are over, so I'd like to get a refund for mine. My ccedk account name is "cyrano".
Thanks,
Peter
I want a full refund for my card also. My ccedk account name is "liondani"
"Thanks",
Daniel Schwarz
liondani
sorry for the delay. send me here or in pm your btc deposit adress, and I will have it sent to you asap, thanks
My BTC address for the nanocard refund
1BShJ9f3KuAbQKUWw9Qp7U73Usp8ddMcgQ
Thanks
hello Daniel,
I asked in PM also, pls provide me with your order no of the card, in order for me to process this correctly, thanks
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I asked in PM also, pls provide me with your order no of the card, in order for me to process this correctly, thanks
It;s no. 0000083
Card delivery via regular post
2015-06-20 08:04:30
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I asked in PM also, pls provide me with your order no of the card, in order for me to process this correctly, thanks
It;s no. 0000083
Card delivery via regular post
2015-06-20 08:04:30
If it helps it was
Client ID 121083
Package Nr. 16217
Daniel Patrick Schwarz
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New year, new protests >:(
Ronny, I introduced several people to Nanocard half a year ago, with promises of activation through ccedk and the possibility of spending SmartCoins directly from the card within a few months, as originally advertised.
I kindly ask for a status update on behalf of the members here, many of which got this product thinking that a) it could be activated on ccedk.com and not some other 3rd party site and b) it would be possible to spend smartcoins directly from the card, rather than depositing smartcoins on a centralized exchange.
Is it time for all of us to return the cards? Have the priorities shifted on your end? Please update us.
Thank you for your continued effort and services.
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He updated a few days ago. It's out of his powers but things look good.
I also told many people about things that are not true anymore.
Let him focus on the work. I feel that he already updated enough.
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@38PTSWarrior could you link to that status update? I seem to have missed it. Thanks!
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@38PTSWarrior could you link to that status update? I seem to have missed it. Thanks!
Hi, post 52
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@ccedk could you update us on this?
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by now I am pretty sure the nanocard will never work with ccedk and he did already know that for quite some while.
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by now I am pretty sure the nanocard will never work with ccedk and he did already know that for quite some while.
Agreed.
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by now I am pretty sure the nanocard will never work with ccedk and he did already know that for quite some while.
I can only say I am sorry you feel like this, an no I would tell you if I had any news whatsoever, I just cannot reveal the lastest just yet, all I can say is that NanoCard will come out stronger very soon an for sure in April.
As I have already said to others, if you do have a card pending to get acitvated, let me know if you wish to have a refund together with the order id. I do not wish to keep you waiting, but prefer really to have you come back once its all there.
Rgds
Ronny
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@ccedk
Hi Ronny,
I have sent you numerous emails about the refund or even better a replacement for the nanocard with the new card from coinsbank. Any news please?
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@ccedk
Hi Ronny,
I have sent you numerous emails about the refund or even better a replacement for the nanocard with the new card from coinsbank. Any news please?
Hi, Mike I apologize deeply for this. Will send you the funds sometime tonight, just so extremely pressured for time, and forget really thats all, but know you need this solved, so will get to it asap. thanks for your support.
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@ccedk
Hi Ronny,
I have sent you numerous emails about the refund or even better a replacement for the nanocard with the new card from coinsbank. Any news please?
Guess I did not mention that, but the various cards options are fully up an functional on CoinsBank. For the time being evn 6 different types to allow adjustments depending on your geographical location, incl the virtual one.
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@ccedk
Hi Ronny,
I have sent you numerous emails about the refund or even better a replacement for the nanocard with the new card from coinsbank. Any news please?
Transaction confirmed
#b31476a63fa9587ea25b141c6e9b9d63d9727277@5483092
TRANSFER
From ccedkbts
To mf-tzo
Amount 0.1 open.BTC
Memo refund nanocard
Fee 0.1076 OBITS
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Thank you Ronny :)
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well, where is that stronger nanocard that will come out in april for sure?
I am so sick of your bullshit.
You sold me a product eight month ago, hiding the fact it does not work at all and you have absolutely no idea how to get it to work.
Using the card with another site is not the product i bought.
I send you my refund request by pm.
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no reply so far
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no reply so far
Amount sent, I apologize for the delay in sending you amount, but I do not apologize for anything else.
TX id: 363675fd4df7163eaf5dc4cbf10425083081f4598ba5f9f945b97591540c05e2
You have been given alternatives and you have chosen not to follow, point closed.
Happy weather with your way of thinking and acting. I hope one day you realize how things work in real life and will allow yourself to enjoy life as it is presented and think more about positive things instead of dwelling in what has not been possible due to unforeseen factors.
Constantly implying that I withhold information and whatever other bad language and insults you have come up with makes me feel no use of wasting any more time on people like you. So, once again enjoy the obviously very little world of yours.