Currencies:
AUD (Australia)
BDT (Bangladesh)
BRL (Brazil)
CAD (Canada)
CNY (China)
EUR (Europe)
GBP (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland)
IDR (Indonesia)
INR (India)
JPY (Japan)
KRW (South Korea)
MXN (Mexico)
NGN (Nigeria)
PHP (Philippines)
PKR (Pakistan)
RUR (Russia)
USD (United States of America)
VND (Vietnam)
Crypto
Bitcoin
Litecoin
Peercoin
Stock Indices
Global (MSCI World)
China (SSE Composite Index)
India (BSE)
Europe (Eurostoxx 50)
USA (DJIA)
Indonesia (IHSG)
Brasil (Ibovespa)
Commodities
Copper
Gold
Silver
Crude Oil
XI remember your plane is only 2 assets, gld and usd, for reason of market deep. so It's not a probkem now?
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XI remember your plane is only 2 assets, gld and usd, for reason of market deep. so It's not a probkem now?
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Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?
Ok just asking, I haven't though about it, it just seemed like you could make a bunch of activity at a low price or something. I also wasn't sure how you are measuring market depthIsn't it very easy to fake market depth?How? If you put in "fake" bids/asks they can still get matched, and if you cancel them then the "fake" market depth is no longer there and trading stops
Any BitAsset with enough market depth will be tradeable. Anybody can "propose" a new BitAsset at any time.
We can "pre-register" a bunch of BitAssets for the sole purpose of preventing anyone from issuing an asset with a name/ticker of something you would expect to be market-pegged.
Please help us crowdsource a list of assets that should be market pegged.
We need:
* Name
* Symbol
* Precise Description (needs to be specific to have a price - "1 ounce 99.9% gold", maybe even "delivered to NYSE within 1 week")
* Precision: how many decimal places this asset needs
Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?
How? If you put in "fake" bids/asks they can still get matched, and if you cancel them then the "fake" market depth is no longer there and trading stops
I think they are talking about "X" style asset.Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?
How? If you put in "fake" bids/asks they can still get matched, and if you cancel them then the "fake" market depth is no longer there and trading stops
If you are talking about a small or new asset, what is to stop me from creating it then populating the exchange with orders that I both buy and sell with various idents? Those trades would really happen, and my only cost would be the tx fees. At the point the market bootstraps, I win! my asset is trading at the expense of others. If I fail what did it cost me besides the tx fees?
I think they are talking about "X" style asset.
for "me" style asset, should not need depth limit, right?because there is no margin call here.
for "X" style, you need to freeze enough XTS as a backup to issue your SHORTS,I think they are talking about "X" style asset.
for "me" style asset, should not need depth limit, right?because there is no margin call here.
There are 2 styles?
I want my 3 color / 2 size SHORTS (see above) in both styles, please !
for "X" style, you need to freeze enough XTS as a backup to issue your SHORTS,I think they are talking about "X" style asset.
for "me" style asset, should not need depth limit, right?because there is no margin call here.
There are 2 styles?
I want my 3 color / 2 size SHORTS (see above) in both styles, please !
and be careful force margin call when your SHORTS price up, or you will lose all your SHORTS :D
you need to
I wonder if there is way to deal with user issued assets that attempt to trick users with similar looking names.
Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?
How? If you put in "fake" bids/asks they can still get matched, and if you cancel them then the "fake" market depth is no longer there and trading stops
If you are talking about a small or new asset, what is to stop me from creating it then populating the exchange with orders that I both buy and sell with various idents? Those trades would really happen, and my only cost would be the tx fees. At the point the market bootstraps, I win! my asset is trading at the expense of others. If I fail what did it cost me besides the tx fees?
Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?
How? If you put in "fake" bids/asks they can still get matched, and if you cancel them then the "fake" market depth is no longer there and trading stops
If you are talking about a small or new asset, what is to stop me from creating it then populating the exchange with orders that I both buy and sell with various idents? Those trades would really happen, and my only cost would be the tx fees. At the point the market bootstraps, I win! my asset is trading at the expense of others. If I fail what did it cost me besides the tx fees?
Any BitAsset with enough market depth will be tradeable. Anybody can "propose" a new BitAsset at any time.
We can "pre-register" a bunch of BitAssets for the sole purpose of preventing anyone from issuing an asset with a name/ticker of something you would expect to be market-pegged.
Please help us crowdsource a list of assets that should be market pegged.
We need:
* Name
* Symbol
* Precise Description (needs to be specific to have a price - "1 ounce 99.9% gold", maybe even "delivered to NYSE within 1 week")
* Precision: how many decimal places this asset needs
Any BitAsset with enough market depth will be tradeable. Anybody can "propose" a new BitAsset at any time.
We can "pre-register" a bunch of BitAssets for the sole purpose of preventing anyone from issuing an asset with a name/ticker of something you would expect to be market-pegged.
Please help us crowdsource a list of assets that should be market pegged.
We need:
* Name
* Symbol
* Precise Description (needs to be specific to have a price - "1 ounce 99.9% gold", maybe even "delivered to NYSE within 1 week")
* Precision: how many decimal places this asset needs
Currencies:
AUD (Australia)
BitAUD
BAUD
One Australian Dollar
Precision: 8
BDT (Bangladesh)
BitBDT
BBDT
One Bangladesh Taka
Precision: 8
BRL (Brazil)
BitBRL
BBRL
One Brazilian Real
Precision: 8
CAD (Canada)
BitCAD
BCAD
One Canadian Dollar
Precision: 8
CNY (China)
BitCNY
BCNY
One Chinese Yuan
Precision: 8
EUR (Europe)
BitEURO
BERO
One Euro
Precision: 8
GBP (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland)
BitGBP
BGBP
One Great British Pound
Precision: 8
IDR (Indonesia)
BitIDR
BIDR
One Indonesian Rupia
Precision: 8
INR (India)
BitINR
BINR
One Indian Rupee
Precision: 8
JPY (Japan)
BitJPY
BJPY
One Japanese Yen
Precision: 8
KRW (South Korea)
BitKRW
BKRW
One South Korean Won
Precision: 8
MXN (Mexico)
BitMXN
BMXN
One Mexican Peso
Precision: 8
NGN (Nigeria)
BitNGN
BNGN
One Nigerian Naira
Precision: 8
PHP (Philippines)
BitPHP
BPHP
One Philippine Peso
Precision: 8
PKR (Pakistan)
BitPKR
BPKR
One Pakistani Rupee
Precision: 8
RUR (Russia)
BitRUR
BRUR
One Russian Ruble
Precision: 8
USD (United States of America)
BitUSD
BUSD
One United States Dollar
Precision: 8
VND (Vietnam)
BitVND
BVND
One Vietnam Dong
Precision: 8
Crypto:
Bitcoin
BitBTC
BBTC
One Bitcoin
Precision: 8
Litecoin
BitLTC
BLTC
One Litecoin
Precision: 8
Peercoin
BitPPC
BPPC
One Peercoin
Precision: 8
Stock Indices:
Global (MSCI World)
China (SSE Composite Index)
India (BSE)
Europe (Eurostoxx 50)
USA (DJIA)
Indonesia (IHSG)
Brasil (Ibovespa)
Commodities:
Copper
Gold
Silver
Crude Oil
The idea is to have a very small number of BitAssets until they are very well understood. I3 can help bootstrap BitUSD and one or two others and those are the only ones that will trade except for by overwhelming demand. The original plan was just to have 3 bitassets anyway.
Is there somewhere I can read to find out how these prices track the actual price of the commodity traded? Or someone explain it here. Can't get my head around it at the moment.
In a very basic penny trade operation, what really happens is a group of people hold maximum of the security. So they can create a market depth and trade within themselves raising the price at the expense of others.Isn't it very easy to fake market depth?
How? If you put in "fake" bids/asks they can still get matched, and if you cancel them then the "fake" market depth is no longer there and trading stops
If you are talking about a small or new asset, what is to stop me from creating it then populating the exchange with orders that I both buy and sell with various idents? Those trades would really happen, and my only cost would be the tx fees. At the point the market bootstraps, I win! my asset is trading at the expense of others. If I fail what did it cost me besides the tx fees?
How is this at the expense of others? Also you need depth, not volume, so you could only bootstrap an asset if you had enough total % of stake.
Is there somewhere I can read to find out how these prices track the actual price of the commodity traded? Or someone explain it here. Can't get my head around it at the moment.
The White Paper is here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RLcjSXWuU9vBJzzqLEXVACSCdn8zXKTTJRN_LfoCjNY/edit?pli=1#
Hang Seng- Hong Kong index
Nikkei- Japanese index
Commodities:
Aluminum
Natural Gas
RBOB
Brent Crude
Uranium
Wheat
Ethanol
Orange Juice >:(
Sugar
Pork Bellies
Rice
Propane
Palladium
Platinum
Corn
Steel
Coffee
Butter
Milk
.........
If you are going to have indexes, don't forget:
NDX
OEX
QQQQ
.........
You can also do:
ETF's
Double and triple leveraged ETF's
Short/inverse ETF's which can also be double triple leveraged i.e. FAZ
I wonder if there is way to deal with user issued assets that attempt to trick users with similar looking names.
Hang Seng- Hong Kong index
Nikkei- Japanese index
Commodities:
Aluminum
Natural Gas
RBOB
Brent Crude
Uranium
Wheat
Ethanol
Orange Juice >:(
Sugar
Pork Bellies
Rice
Propane
Palladium
Platinum
Corn
Steel
Coffee
Butter
Milk
.........
If you are going to have indexes, don't forget:
NDX
OEX
QQQQ
.........
You can also do:
ETF's
Double and triple leveraged ETF's
Short/inverse ETF's which can also be double triple leveraged i.e. FAZ
How about some assets relevant to our market demographic? Computer chips, ram, graphics cards,?
How about LTBcoin? Mastercoin? Swarmcoin? Counterparty? Safecoin? DAC Index? Proof of Stake Index?
Can someone link me as to how bitassets will work?http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Market_Peg
{
"timestamp" : "20140707T000000",
"market_assets": [
{
"symbol": "PTS",
"name": "BitShares PTS"
"description": "1 PTS"
"precision": 100000000
},
{
"symbol": "PPC",
"name": "Peercoin"
"description": "1 peercoin"
"precision": 100000000
},
{
"symbol": "LTC",
"name": "Litecoin"
"description": "1 litecoin"
"precision": 100000000
},
{
"symbol": "BTC",
"name": "Bitcoin",
"description": "1 bitcoin",
"precision": 100000000
},
{
"symbol": "WTI",
"name": "Light Sweet Crude Oil",
"description": "1 barrel light sweet crude oil",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "SLV",
"name": "Silver",
"description": "1 troy ounce .999 fine silver",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "GLD",
"name": "Gold",
"description": "1 troy ounce .999 fine gold",
"precision": 1000000
},
{
"symbol": "TRY",
"name": "Turkish Lira",
"description": "1 Turkish lira",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "SGD",
"name": "Singapore Dollar"
"description": "1 Singapore dollar",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "HKD",
"name": "Hong Kong Dollar"
"description": "1 Hong Kong dollar",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "RUB",
"name": "Russian Ruble"
"description": "1 Russian ruble",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "SEK",
"name": "Swedish Krona"
"description": "1 Swedish krona",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "NZD",
"name": "New Zealand Dollar"
"description": "1 New Zealand dollar",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "CNY",
"name": "Chinese Yuan"
"description": "1 Chinese yuan",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "MXN",
"name": "Mexican Peso"
"description": "1 Mexican peso",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "CAD",
"name": "Canadian Dollar",
"description": "1 Canadian dollar",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "CHF",
"name": "Swiss Franc",
"description": "1 Swiss franc",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "AUD",
"name": "Australian Dollar"
"description": "1 Australian dollar",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "GBP",
"name": "Pound sterling",
"description": "1 pound sterling",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "JPY",
"name": "Japanese Yen",
"description": "1 Japanese yen",
"precision": 100
},
{
"symbol": "EUR",
"name": "Euro",
"description": "1 euro",
"precision": 10000
},
{
"symbol": "USD",
"name": "United States Dollar",
"description": "1 United States dollar",
"precision": 10000
}
],
Make sure you do AGS as per my post here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5526.msg73880
Seriously - this would be awesome if we made AGS liquid using BTSX.
This is for BITassets and NOT normal user-issued assets. AGS cannot be a bitasset (market-pegged asset)...
Someone could make "AGS" if they wanted but it would have to be a normal user-issued asset.
Invictus honored PTS which is liquid. This is now silly, or I don't understand legal well enough.
Either way. I've been pushing for AGS being liquid, mostly because I don't like the idea of entering the same private key in all the programs that come out.