Sweat not.  We have resolved the public relations issues.

There's a newsletter about to be released.

Most of the worries in this thread will disappear, the clouds will dissolve, and the sky will turn blue.

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With apologies to Winston Churchill:

“Why, you may take the most steely-eyed geek, the most crafty investor or the most audacious marketeer, put them on a forum together - what do you get? The sum of their fears”

 

Looking forward to it! Guess when it rains it pours cause Nullstreet will be released soon about the same time.

i hold a couple of small other coins on BTER and they are also since days in "processing" so, maybe many different blockchains got in the same time the same unstable wallets. It is really unfortunate (ironic mode off)

Hahaha 

ITS A WORLD WIDE CRYPTO WALLET FAILURE!

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So if you are inspired by what we are doing and want to contribute, please
do so through  bts ID: ‘bitsharesbreakout’ with the memo ‘filmgear’.

And if you haven’t already done so, please VOTE for fund.bitsharesbreakout

Got my vote.. and congrats!

me too yesterday withdrawall 100 bts to try it but nothing happen


can some DEV say something?? we are working.,. we are talking to bter ... or something to comunity health

There is probably nothing they can say on the matter one way or another.

They have operated for nearly a year without any major issues with BTS wallet.. suddenly after their BTC gets hacked they can't get their BTS wallet working? My car broke down, and because of it my computer isn't working 

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Why the fuck the release data changed again and again?
This is a very  slow progress.
Thats why the price was acting like a shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have a terrible attitude and nobody owes you anything.

What are you doing to make bitshares better besides bitching?

terrible attitude?thats the fucking reality.
Don‘t acting you do a lot to bitshares，bitch.
I have tons of shares to vote  for 100% delegate,I bought and mined PTS since day 1,you dare say i do nothing to bitshares?
你们这些老外一个个就是装逼犯，一天不装逼就不舒服

I understand the frustration with the delayed release, but as toast posted a while ago, 1.0 is over hyped and shouldn't be a huge catalyst or mystery potion for the price.

Still, throwing temper tantrums and spewing insults isn't going to get more people to buy bitshares or get the devs to even consider your opinion.  Why not focus all this energy on something productive for bitshares? Unless of course you want to see it fail...

I agree that is overrated and that it shouldn't bring nothing new to the price because it is essential to have a working wallet.

Let me give you my example:

Until November I managed to have a BTSX wallet on my computer. Then things started glitching. Every new update was slower and crashing more and more. Numerous crash reports etc.. I lost my mind with it and transferred all of my BTS to btc38. I couldn't anymore wait for the wallet to re-synchronize and re-index. My BTS were still on the exchange when bter hack happened. Yesterday I decided not to play with the faith if btc38 gets hacked as bter did. I downloaded a wallet thinking how more than 3 months have passed and how something had to change. Nothing!! I sent over 10 crash reports etc.. I cannot even import the wallet from my json file anymore. I lost it completely and sold all of my BTS this morning at the loss. I just don't have nowhere to hold them. Wallet doesn't work, web wallet is not secure, exchange - there is no way I am holding my money over there anymore. I will rather miss on some of the BTS growth if it happens than to lose all of my money how it could have happened with bter.

Now I am very tech savy. I've been in BTC for over 2 years, NXT since the beginnings and BTS as well. If I have lost my mind, what do you think will happen to a complete noob??

From my perspective the new wallet is not overrated, it is completely essential!!!

P.S. I am reading today that people can't even withdraw their BTS from bter since the faulty wallet. Completely understandable.

I read stuff like this and for a long time Dan has talked about the wallet being stable and I am not sure what to think.

I use the wallet EVERY SINGLE DAY.. have been for months now all without any issue. I am trading every single day with it.. a little slow yeah.. do I get the occasional crash.. yes.. usually when I am rushing to click on something before all the data loads it will cause a crash.. I just learned not to do that. Nonetheless.. I don't think you should consider your experience as what everyone else is experiencing.. nor am I considering mine to be the norm.. btw.. I am just using the windows wallet.. what version you were using is unclear.

I guess the point is moot now though since you sold out... ironicly I am buying everyday.

"It's always darkest before the dawn".

Press on to meet the dawn.

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This is great, but can you defend the "zero counterparty risk" claim?  My understanding is that counterparty risk using metaexchange would be dramatically lower than other exchanges, but not zero.

The risk is non-zero for the short time it takes for 1 BTC confirmation, i.e. 10 minutes. After that you are in control of your funds again.

I think if you considered the odds of that happening at the exact same time as your transaction.. it would probably work out to something like 0.05% risk.. which if you eliminate the decimal points actually is zero. I haven't done the math.. maybe someone could.. but I think that does deserve the claim. There is nothing on the internet and I mean NOTHING that can claim absolute zero.

I think this is correct.  So the profit potential for MetaExchange (or a liquidity provider) betraying the customers is their average volume multiplied by the time it would take people to hear they were unreliable and cease deposits.  In normal operation this profit potential should be very low compared to the potential profit of operating honestly, so risk should be very low.  However, the greater the number of separate liquidity providers involved sharing the same reputation, the more this could break down, because smaller liquidity providers have less stake in preserving MetaExchanges reputation.  When you use MetaExchange, is there a way to know which liquidity provider you're trusting, or are you just trusting MetaExchange as a whole?  Are liquidity provider operations monitored by the main site so they'll stop having business referred if they stop payouts?

I think this announcement answers some of your question.. they are openly telling you who the liquidity provider is.. in other assets they have done similar where they have announced who is providing the liquidity to what asset. So I think the model is to be transparent in that. It's too early for multiple liquidity providers I think.. at a later stage that could be addressed and I think after some time of operations any issues will make themselves known to help determine the best coarse on handling that... let them learn to walk before they run basically.