I'm clearly your enemy, and invictus is doing a fantastic job.
Still you are educating others about our goals and techniques .. and you are doing great explaining it!
Unfortunately those guys seem to have no interest in constructive feedback .. otherwise they would join the discussion over here and not on a private skype chat.
Maybe one more thing: they issue with stake in several other systems (best example is NXT) is that the stakes are not fairly distributed .. sure bitshares stakes are also not fairly distributed (i guess) but your surely agree that we have a much wider distribution of stake than any other proof-of-stake crypto such as peercoin/blackcoin/darkcoin and others.
That's maybe one of the big advantages we have over here.
BTW. we have initiated contact with freenode admins to recover the already registered #bitshares channel ..
Why would groups like swarm come to bitshares when others have a working product, right now, that don't demand 20% of their money supply before the community will "support" them. Why would they want to visit these confusing, hostile forums when they could save themselves the trouble and bang their head against a more conveniently located brick wall
Bitshares is one of the smallest 2.0 communities, do you notice how when 30 people join to complain about their investment taking an extra 200% of the timeline that was sold to them it's a big deal? That's because there are less than two hundred active members on the forum, and the ones that are left are the TRUE BELIEVERS. Invictus did one thing "right", they locked people in so as they make bad choices there is no way for their investors to escape them.
I'm an industry evangelist. I want all the 2.0 protocols to succeed. Why are you arguing with me? Because you backed what turned out to be a very risky horse. I'm sorry about that, we all believed in Daniels vision in the beginning.