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PEERPLAYS SNAPSHOT DATE

THE PEERPLAYS TEAM WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE SNAPSHOT DATE FOR THE PEERPLAYS TOKEN.

IF YOU ARE HOLDING OR TRADING PEERPLAYS TOKENS RIGHT NOW, PLEASE READ THIS ANNOUNCEMENT CAREFULLY!



Retweet: https://twitter.com/PeerPlays/status/807234167725588480
Steemit: https://steemit.com/peerplays/@peerplays/important-announcement-peerplays-snapshot-date
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PeerPlays/posts/711007722404112
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/peerplays
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Peerplays/comments/5he3ay/important_announcement_8211_peerplays_snapshot/

So what did the previous snapshot do?

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker Proposal] BitShares Webdesign Mockup
« on: November 19, 2016, 12:34:44 am »
I believe it would be beneficial to see a BitShares dynamic transparency page with listings similar to:

https://uphold.com/en/transparency

This page could list smartcoins and also UIAs of bridges and gateways.

Shareholders would then know that their assets are backed by transparent and accountable financial services (no fractional reserves).

That is a very good idea. I like their breakdown of their reserves. Do you have a suggestion how we can arrange the data fields? at the end, we would need a simple mockup for the devs.

I meet with the design team on Tuesday and we discussed the subside design for the site. Each of the three categories will look similar but store different information. We have a) Private users b) Business c) Developers and maybe d) Blockchain geeks (talking about DAC,DAO etc.)

Option d) could be called Enthusiast.

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Openledger / Re: OpenLedger Market Censoring
« on: November 16, 2016, 05:08:49 am »
Openledger is implementation on top of Bitshares.  It is made for promoting Openledger assets.  If you want a pure bitshares wallet then use  refefence bitshares wallet.  Anyone can design a wallet that highlights their assets. That's what makes bitshares unique and flexible.

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How also making bitusd a core trading pair in gui also. With enough liquidity people would rather against bitusd than other coins.

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personally I do not like this idea, business should be done by businessmen.
+1
+5%

I dislike this as well and have cast that vote multiple times already.
For me, this is not the time to use our reserves to improve the liquidity .. not yet..

Can you give reasons why?

I think it has something to do with the lack of utility that thus is not driving any real demand. By doing something like this 'today' we are creating an artificial market that is more likely to lead to something like nubits than towards growing.

That's just my guess anyways.. not a trader!
What do you mean? At minimum a hedge against btc is a utility. Look at this  btc dump. I used tether on polo to hedge. Would have been nice to have used bitusd.

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General Discussion / Re: Maker coin
« on: July 13, 2016, 05:52:42 pm »

Don't trade it for OPEN.MKR because you will be totally trapped! No bids anywhere. They only thing you can do is convert to ethereum.mkr which has zero markets.

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General Discussion / Re: Steemit's Plan
« on: July 10, 2016, 05:00:28 pm »
Some ppl just can't see past their bitterness.

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Technical Support / Re: Trollboxmoderators
« on: June 29, 2016, 06:58:26 am »

Can we get rid of anonymous so people have to pick a name? You can't really get to know people if everyone's name is anonymous.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker Proposal] Chronos Crypto videos
« on: June 21, 2016, 05:10:20 pm »
I think instead of worker voting being constantly dynamic, there should be time frames build into the vote. A proposal is is made with fixed terms for example, A 90 day proposal could have two re-vote cycles, one at 30 days and one at 60 days. At each of these intervals there is a 3 day window in which in votes can be changed. This lets worker have the confidence of knowing his pay is good over a certain time frame. The escrow functions describe earlier can still be applied.

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General Discussion / Re: [Video] Intro to Bitshares
« on: June 08, 2016, 02:57:13 pm »
I stop watching when he put distributed proof of stake for DPOS. How can I trust the info when he can't get the core of the product right.

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All you naysayers are just pissing in the wind, while the others are building better ships.

It's been the same way for a long time now, a handful of visionary giants being dogged by a gaggle of myopic treasure hunters who should have never left shore, but simply invested in Apple stock and sucked down more diet coke while watching the 10 o'clock news and imagining themselves to be masters of their own destiny.

Ranting here about how you were victimized while backing a project on the bleeding edge of human imagination is just pathetic.

Some people build ships that cross oceans with their bare hands... and some passengers take masochistic delight in lamenting how their ship hasn't yet arrived in the promised land and that the ocean is vast and filled with terrifying mysteries, but the blame is never with them, always with some other hand controlling their fate, the captain, pirates, or the ocean itself.

Once upon a time the whole lot of you would be keel-hauled.  Nowadays you have the luxury of stinking up the decks with your own vomit.  Let's see where that gets you.

i found this story in my fairytale book:

It was promised to build a great ship, but the builders needed more funds to make their dream a reality. So they looked for supporters and donors and took their funds with the promise to build this great ship. Many of these people believed in this vision and invested their own money in this project.

- so the first ship was built it worked and many of the builders started to build their own ships and promised to give the investors portions of everything they will find

- the headbuilder then decided to destroy all other ships and make a bigger, greater ship, because it would serve as a one unity better then more smaller ships
- the investors could just follow, because the believed the whole project would be fall apart without the headbuilder

- so the great ship got bigger and some investors started to build some attachments to it BUT then

- the headbuilder suprised everyone that he and his friends built a better ship in secret and left the first, great ship behind
- the attachment builders where left behind, because nothing the builded worked with the new ship
- the new ship was not for free, the investors gave up their promise to get 10% of everything, because the headbuilder argued he build the second ship on his own

- many things where promised and everyone where exited again, BUT
- many advantages got chanceled because of time

- after it was clear that nothing will be done in the future without the approval of the community, the headbuilder left the project, because the ship was "ready"
- he builded "again" a better ship, but this time he left most of the investors behind and took some friends with him.

"You are better on your own, everything is ready nothing is left i promised, so i want to do new things"

- the people on the second shipped realized that most of the stuff of the headbuilder left in secret from the cargo. More and more people left the second ship, some swam to the third ship, but most took the rest they had and looked for better builders outside, because they wanted to be a part of something special, but could
not build on their own.
Parts of this story sound familiar, but one glaring fallacy is "most of the stuff of the headbuilder left in secret from the cargo". Steem doesn't compete with BitShares: as has been pointed out already, it only supports trading its own fixed set of assets (Steem and Steem-backed dollars).

There's also the implicit fallacy that no one else but the "headbuilder" could upgrade the ship. BitShares is an open-source project and there are plenty of people capable of updating the BitShares code base. SVK continues to do wonders at advancing the web wallet. One of the original developer's of the blockchain code, Nathan, is working on integration with it now. BlockTrades is also supporting the code base (we developed the peer-to-peer networking code it uses and we just recently fixed an issue in the memo encryption code).

It's true there's not a lot of working going on in the core code right now, but that's mainly because we think adding support for more tradeable assets and improvements to the UI are higher priority tasks at the moment than adding new features to the blockchain code. Nevertheless, there are plans to add some new features to BitShares: we're starting to work now on a mechanism for paying dividends to UIA holders via new operations as an early part of the peerplays effort.

hi dan,

with "cargo" i meant the sold BTS in secret for month.

It is true that many people can take over, but do you really believe that when Vitalik would leave ETH it will not hurth the market and the potential of ETH? People would look into his new "baby" and would ETH leave behind, because they would suspect it will be much better then ETH.

In my eyes the core founder leaving BTS activly behind is just killing for 1 year at least.
It sure hurt bitcoin when Satoshi left.

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The lesson is, when you try to make everyone happy  no one is happy. If you try to make yourself happy, at least one person is.

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Here is a question for the trolls, is there any scenario in which bitshares does not go to the moon without someone being labeled a criminal/scammer???

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No one is talking about bitshares being a scam here... we are talking (as the title of the thread says) about how the Larimers are no longer working on bitshares.  They have jumped to a new project in hopes that they can sell more investments.  Bitshares is beyond their control, so there is no longer any use for them to stay.

In my opinion I think CNX thought they could use the bts worker proposal system as a cash cow... but it backfired on them.
Imagine that, trying to profit off something you create. Shame on them.

If their only motivation was to scam, why give control to community? They gambled, rightfully that their vision of BTS was the best. The users  disagreed. Now they are considered criminals because they are applying the lessons learned elsewhere?

If cheating people out of money was their goal, I could think of a thousand easier ways considering as you say, "crypto investors are stupid"

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Here is a question for the trolls, is there any scenario in which bitshares does not go to the moon without someone being labeled a criminal/scammer???

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And most importantly...they already have (as one of the first orders of business) the bots to auto vote up or down posts by accounts they like/dislike...one of the parameters is even to do such burial in 0 seconds after a post. It is a no brainer that such automation on account and not posts voting, is so simple and easy to 'improve' to next include new accounts to be destroyed for simply voting 'for' a post by an account on the blacklist of the vote-masters...  Now each poster not only should not express a different opinion, but should restrain from even voting for something that the masters might not like, for the fear of being auto-blacklisted.
censorship automation nice steaming touch to the already existing total control  monopoly...
Why did you know so much, Tony? When you started to hate sth, you look into it to find more reasons to amplify the hate? Why not save some time & just ignore it?

Trolls can't ignore, they have to feed on something or else wither and die.

What I find hilarious is whenever we bring up actual real issues about the larimers and their massive screwing  and probably illegal actions against their shareholders (of various instruments), we get labeled as trolls.  No rebuttals, just dumb ass one liners and pictures of caves and bridges.

Please someone tell me how the larimers have not screwed their shareholders in every investment vehicle they have ever sold.  You may think your on the rocketship with steem, but why would you think it would end up any different from any other investment they sold to you?

Why not hold then accountable for at least one project instead of following them blindly until you're bankrupt?
This is all experimental high risk stuff. What I find amazing is how people complain about all rules and regulations of the fiat world and then the minute something doesn't go the way they expect, they want to drag all that stuff to crypto. If you want rules and regulations, why he'll are you messing with crypto??? Stay in the fiat world where it's "safe".

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