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He still has delegates as *.chinese. Is he also chinesecommunity?I wish I understood Chinese (is there a difference between Mandarin and Cantonese when written?). I feel the Chinese sub forums are a lot more entertaining than the English ones.
Quote from: Riverhead on November 04, 2014, 05:30:14 amHe still has delegates as *.chinese. Is he also chinesecommunity?I wish I understood Chinese (is there a difference between Mandarin and Cantonese when written?). I feel the Chinese sub forums are a lot more entertaining than the English ones.You will not be so entertained when you understand that your $1.80/mo. delegate is a centralization point in their mind...https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10902.msg144482#msg144482
本群目前阵容:1 本人zhao150,qq名:瞬间的光辉,敢说真话,敢提意见的ags pts大户。2 武次:pts bts 投资策略高手,量化投资高手。3 qq名:仗剑挟酒江湖 ags大户,pts bts割韭菜高手。4 sfinder,qq名:星在飘还在找,看英文帖子就跟玩一样,还能看懂bts代码。5 qq名:代代,深藏不露的C++程序员,能看懂bts代码。6 qq名Jerry,论坛id sudo,号称J神,这个想必大家都知道,不管是英文区还是中文区都混得开的人物
You may just read part of my post. That is how you got confused . AGS Legal issue was posted by another member month ago which i passed onto chinese community and BM responded in the 2nd day indicated the worse case this legal problem can be resolved by fine.please forward me the complete post. I can show you i did mention BM 's updates as well.Quote from: Snail on November 02, 2014, 03:18:18 amQuote from: BTSdac on November 02, 2014, 03:09:47 amyes everyone can say everything true or not , but I like a delegate say true, YES BM said a potential legal issue and can be resovled by fine, but what you talk to new investor , you just emphasize the large legal issue. never said it can be resolved by fine.yes everyone can publish a view about price ,also can give suggest to others, but I do`t like a delegate say much about it . also I hope a delegate can keep same point of view between international community and Chinese community.Quote from: sfinder on November 01, 2014, 06:18:06 pmBTSdac, BM posted month ago indicated there was a potential legal issue with our AGS funding but can be resolved by fine.I love current price around 7 cent CNY. it is good time to buy in . I do not suggest you to sell it . sell it or not , it is all your own decision. I just bought another 100k couple minutes ago. price is very nice . i wish i have more money Quote from: BTSdac on November 01, 2014, 05:31:10 pmQuote from: sfinder on November 01, 2014, 04:50:19 pm这个价格(0.07左右)真是超便宜 +5%值得买....值得买Quote from: lzr1900 on November 01, 2014, 04:39:06 pm stan真的该闭嘴了上次他说这个价格(0.2左右)真是超便宜这次又说这个价(9分左右)不是更值得买吗 我都无语了sfinder , you are running a delegate ,but you always magnify bad news in Chinese community , last time you said Ags donation have big risk of law in Chinese communityrecently you tell many new investor bts would drop to 0.07 cny ,suggest that they sell the btsx.
Quote from: BTSdac on November 02, 2014, 03:09:47 amyes everyone can say everything true or not , but I like a delegate say true, YES BM said a potential legal issue and can be resovled by fine, but what you talk to new investor , you just emphasize the large legal issue. never said it can be resolved by fine.yes everyone can publish a view about price ,also can give suggest to others, but I do`t like a delegate say much about it . also I hope a delegate can keep same point of view between international community and Chinese community.Quote from: sfinder on November 01, 2014, 06:18:06 pmBTSdac, BM posted month ago indicated there was a potential legal issue with our AGS funding but can be resolved by fine.I love current price around 7 cent CNY. it is good time to buy in . I do not suggest you to sell it . sell it or not , it is all your own decision. I just bought another 100k couple minutes ago. price is very nice . i wish i have more money Quote from: BTSdac on November 01, 2014, 05:31:10 pmQuote from: sfinder on November 01, 2014, 04:50:19 pm这个价格(0.07左右)真是超便宜 +5%值得买....值得买Quote from: lzr1900 on November 01, 2014, 04:39:06 pm stan真的该闭嘴了上次他说这个价格(0.2左右)真是超便宜这次又说这个价(9分左右)不是更值得买吗 我都无语了sfinder , you are running a delegate ,but you always magnify bad news in Chinese community , last time you said Ags donation have big risk of law in Chinese communityrecently you tell many new investor bts would drop to 0.07 cny ,suggest that they sell the btsx.
yes everyone can say everything true or not , but I like a delegate say true, YES BM said a potential legal issue and can be resovled by fine, but what you talk to new investor , you just emphasize the large legal issue. never said it can be resolved by fine.yes everyone can publish a view about price ,also can give suggest to others, but I do`t like a delegate say much about it . also I hope a delegate can keep same point of view between international community and Chinese community.Quote from: sfinder on November 01, 2014, 06:18:06 pmBTSdac, BM posted month ago indicated there was a potential legal issue with our AGS funding but can be resolved by fine.I love current price around 7 cent CNY. it is good time to buy in . I do not suggest you to sell it . sell it or not , it is all your own decision. I just bought another 100k couple minutes ago. price is very nice . i wish i have more money Quote from: BTSdac on November 01, 2014, 05:31:10 pmQuote from: sfinder on November 01, 2014, 04:50:19 pm这个价格(0.07左右)真是超便宜 +5%值得买....值得买Quote from: lzr1900 on November 01, 2014, 04:39:06 pm stan真的该闭嘴了上次他说这个价格(0.2左右)真是超便宜这次又说这个价(9分左右)不是更值得买吗 我都无语了sfinder , you are running a delegate ,but you always magnify bad news in Chinese community , last time you said Ags donation have big risk of law in Chinese communityrecently you tell many new investor bts would drop to 0.07 cny ,suggest that they sell the btsx.
BTSdac, BM posted month ago indicated there was a potential legal issue with our AGS funding but can be resolved by fine.I love current price around 7 cent CNY. it is good time to buy in . I do not suggest you to sell it . sell it or not , it is all your own decision. I just bought another 100k couple minutes ago. price is very nice . i wish i have more money Quote from: BTSdac on November 01, 2014, 05:31:10 pmQuote from: sfinder on November 01, 2014, 04:50:19 pm这个价格(0.07左右)真是超便宜 +5%值得买....值得买Quote from: lzr1900 on November 01, 2014, 04:39:06 pm stan真的该闭嘴了上次他说这个价格(0.2左右)真是超便宜这次又说这个价(9分左右)不是更值得买吗 我都无语了sfinder , you are running a delegate ,but you always magnify bad news in Chinese community , last time you said Ags donation have big risk of law in Chinese communityrecently you tell many new investor bts would drop to 0.07 cny ,suggest that they sell the btsx.
Quote from: sfinder on November 01, 2014, 04:50:19 pm这个价格(0.07左右)真是超便宜 +5%值得买....值得买Quote from: lzr1900 on November 01, 2014, 04:39:06 pm stan真的该闭嘴了上次他说这个价格(0.2左右)真是超便宜这次又说这个价(9分左右)不是更值得买吗 我都无语了sfinder , you are running a delegate ,but you always magnify bad news in Chinese community , last time you said Ags donation have big risk of law in Chinese communityrecently you tell many new investor bts would drop to 0.07 cny ,suggest that they sell the btsx.
这个价格(0.07左右)真是超便宜 +5%值得买....值得买Quote from: lzr1900 on November 01, 2014, 04:39:06 pm stan真的该闭嘴了上次他说这个价格(0.2左右)真是超便宜这次又说这个价(9分左右)不是更值得买吗 我都无语了
stan真的该闭嘴了上次他说这个价格(0.2左右)真是超便宜这次又说这个价(9分左右)不是更值得买吗 我都无语了
i said he might get sued in states if he publish other ppl's private conservation in the public. just like we can not publish you naked photo from your phone without your permission Quote from: btswildpig on November 03, 2014, 02:33:19 amQuote from: coins on November 03, 2014, 02:20:04 amgood try. 1)zhao's group is private group. you can check with owner zhao 1502)that ppl in the qq group is not linked to sfinder in the forum. sfinder is long term contributor to BTS world Quote from: btswildpig on November 03, 2014, 01:49:20 amI'm not RippleXiaoShan . If any admin wants , I can confirm where I'm at , Which country I'm at , not just by ip ADDRESS , but also the view from my house .I suppose RippleXiaoshan is in Canada . Well , I'm not .As for the privacy part , US Supreme Court had established that a person should have "reasonable expectation of pricacy" , so a QQ group advertised on this forum to joint and only validate three words ----- BTS to enter can not be considered as a private room instead of a open places .I performed multiple test on this subject ----- Only enter some simple validation like --- BTS , Please , I want in , like your style .... You can enter this QQ group . So there will be no reasonable expectation of privacy in the eyes of the US legal system . Anything you said on such a QQ group , if it fits a crime , the police or the federal government don't even need a legal warrant to obtain that information and use it against you .Is that clear ? Don't fight me on this , we both know you don't have the expertise .So , why are you eager to defend sfinder with privacy in a QQ group when you think sfinder is not linked to the QQ group ?Gotcha .Plus another fun fact : claiming a place to be private does not constitute privacy . Zhao150 specifically ask all people around the world to joint the group and no questions asked . Then again , if that guy in QQ group isn't sfinder , why are you and sfinder go eager to sue RippleXiaoshan for violating privacy ?
Quote from: coins on November 03, 2014, 02:20:04 amgood try. 1)zhao's group is private group. you can check with owner zhao 1502)that ppl in the qq group is not linked to sfinder in the forum. sfinder is long term contributor to BTS world Quote from: btswildpig on November 03, 2014, 01:49:20 amI'm not RippleXiaoShan . If any admin wants , I can confirm where I'm at , Which country I'm at , not just by ip ADDRESS , but also the view from my house .I suppose RippleXiaoshan is in Canada . Well , I'm not .As for the privacy part , US Supreme Court had established that a person should have "reasonable expectation of pricacy" , so a QQ group advertised on this forum to joint and only validate three words ----- BTS to enter can not be considered as a private room instead of a open places .I performed multiple test on this subject ----- Only enter some simple validation like --- BTS , Please , I want in , like your style .... You can enter this QQ group . So there will be no reasonable expectation of privacy in the eyes of the US legal system . Anything you said on such a QQ group , if it fits a crime , the police or the federal government don't even need a legal warrant to obtain that information and use it against you .Is that clear ? Don't fight me on this , we both know you don't have the expertise .So , why are you eager to defend sfinder with privacy in a QQ group when you think sfinder is not linked to the QQ group ?Gotcha .Plus another fun fact : claiming a place to be private does not constitute privacy . Zhao150 specifically ask all people around the world to joint the group and no questions asked . Then again , if that guy in QQ group isn't sfinder , why are you and sfinder go eager to sue RippleXiaoshan for violating privacy ?
good try. 1)zhao's group is private group. you can check with owner zhao 1502)that ppl in the qq group is not linked to sfinder in the forum. sfinder is long term contributor to BTS world Quote from: btswildpig on November 03, 2014, 01:49:20 amI'm not RippleXiaoShan . If any admin wants , I can confirm where I'm at , Which country I'm at , not just by ip ADDRESS , but also the view from my house .I suppose RippleXiaoshan is in Canada . Well , I'm not .As for the privacy part , US Supreme Court had established that a person should have "reasonable expectation of pricacy" , so a QQ group advertised on this forum to joint and only validate three words ----- BTS to enter can not be considered as a private room instead of a open places .I performed multiple test on this subject ----- Only enter some simple validation like --- BTS , Please , I want in , like your style .... You can enter this QQ group . So there will be no reasonable expectation of privacy in the eyes of the US legal system . Anything you said on such a QQ group , if it fits a crime , the police or the federal government don't even need a legal warrant to obtain that information and use it against you .Is that clear ? Don't fight me on this , we both know you don't have the expertise .
I'm not RippleXiaoShan . If any admin wants , I can confirm where I'm at , Which country I'm at , not just by ip ADDRESS , but also the view from my house .I suppose RippleXiaoshan is in Canada . Well , I'm not .As for the privacy part , US Supreme Court had established that a person should have "reasonable expectation of pricacy" , so a QQ group advertised on this forum to joint and only validate three words ----- BTS to enter can not be considered as a private room instead of a open places .I performed multiple test on this subject ----- Only enter some simple validation like --- BTS , Please , I want in , like your style .... You can enter this QQ group . So there will be no reasonable expectation of privacy in the eyes of the US legal system . Anything you said on such a QQ group , if it fits a crime , the police or the federal government don't even need a legal warrant to obtain that information and use it against you .Is that clear ? Don't fight me on this , we both know you don't have the expertise .
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it's not about law, it's about trust.I told youI don't trust sfinder because what I have seen from: forum, qq group, btc38I think this guy are doing something will damage this forumI don't want to waste any of my time to prove this thing.and I don't care if you trust me.that's all.Quote from: coins on November 02, 2014, 11:58:42 pmis there any proof that he talk in the public . if only in private message should not go public. qq is private message just like our cell phoneQuote from: alt on November 02, 2014, 11:47:04 pmQuote from: ripplexiaoshan on November 02, 2014, 08:23:50 pmI like discussion, so I will answer all of your questions. 1/ whether Sfinder is linked to the guys spreading FUD on BTC38 or not, it is a critical issue. Unfortunately, we have proof showing that Sfinder posted same message on this forum and on BTC38, BTW, chatting history in QQ group shows that he admitted himself.Yes, it's true, I can prove. I am very very very shocked to his honest. And I think it's really not good to spent too many time in this thing at this time, please end it fast.let's focus to the BTS develop.
is there any proof that he talk in the public . if only in private message should not go public. qq is private message just like our cell phoneQuote from: alt on November 02, 2014, 11:47:04 pmQuote from: ripplexiaoshan on November 02, 2014, 08:23:50 pmI like discussion, so I will answer all of your questions. 1/ whether Sfinder is linked to the guys spreading FUD on BTC38 or not, it is a critical issue. Unfortunately, we have proof showing that Sfinder posted same message on this forum and on BTC38, BTW, chatting history in QQ group shows that he admitted himself.Yes, it's true, I can prove. I am very very very shocked to his honest. And I think it's really not good to spent too many time in this thing at this time, please end it fast.let's focus to the BTS develop.
Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on November 02, 2014, 08:23:50 pmI like discussion, so I will answer all of your questions. 1/ whether Sfinder is linked to the guys spreading FUD on BTC38 or not, it is a critical issue. Unfortunately, we have proof showing that Sfinder posted same message on this forum and on BTC38, BTW, chatting history in QQ group shows that he admitted himself.Yes, it's true, I can prove. I am very very very shocked to his honest. And I think it's really not good to spent too many time in this thing at this time, please end it fast.let's focus to the BTS develop.
I like discussion, so I will answer all of your questions. 1/ whether Sfinder is linked to the guys spreading FUD on BTC38 or not, it is a critical issue. Unfortunately, we have proof showing that Sfinder posted same message on this forum and on BTC38, BTW, chatting history in QQ group shows that he admitted himself.
lucky you not live in china country with no privacy LOLQuote from: Mysto on November 02, 2014, 11:13:58 pmQuote from: ripplexiaoshan on November 02, 2014, 10:46:35 pmIf so, I accept this accusation, and please sue me. Best reply!
Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on November 02, 2014, 10:46:35 pmIf so, I accept this accusation, and please sue me. Best reply!
If so, I accept this accusation, and please sue me.
sfinder, i know you are watching this. you can deny everything you've done.you can spread fud everywhere.you can fuxx everybody up even when you are running delegates.you are free to do whatever you want to. BUT, take my words, you know what that means.善恶终有报,天道本轮回;不信抬头看,苍天饶过谁?人在做,天在看。
i have checked sfinder 's post and his blog and did not find anything abnormal . and there is not evidence shows sfinder misbehavior in the public. all the proof are stole from private qq message(no public) and the sender has no link to sfinder. Quote from: jsidhu on November 03, 2014, 01:10:32 amthis sfinder sounds more like keyser soze.. we should find him and crush his bones.
this sfinder sounds more like keyser soze.. we should find him and crush his bones.
there is nothing to do with QQ agreement. the zhao's group is not open to public so it is private group which should respect ppl's privacy. and sfinder is not linked to that guy in qq group .please show the evidence from this forum. do not use "he says and she says " Quote from: heyD on November 03, 2014, 12:25:40 amQuote from: coins on November 03, 2014, 12:13:04 ammy question is if zhao150's qq group open for public or just for friendsQuote from: heyD on November 03, 2014, 12:09:38 amQuote from: coins on November 03, 2014, 12:05:26 amis the QQ group a public place and everybody free to get in? I heard QQ group need apply to join。 stick to the point. answer my question: which sentense in the user agreement makes you think it that way?either opening for public or just for the so called friends(as far as i know, the people in that group are not friends, you wanna in, you are in) won't change the fact that everything you say there is NOT privacy, especially when it comes to fud. if you don't think so, point me to the sentense in the user agreement to correct me.don't try to divert attention away by your ridiculous attemption to sueing xiaoshan.we know words, we are not stupid, we are not sfinder's TA.
Quote from: coins on November 03, 2014, 12:13:04 ammy question is if zhao150's qq group open for public or just for friendsQuote from: heyD on November 03, 2014, 12:09:38 amQuote from: coins on November 03, 2014, 12:05:26 amis the QQ group a public place and everybody free to get in? I heard QQ group need apply to join。 stick to the point. answer my question: which sentense in the user agreement makes you think it that way?either opening for public or just for the so called friends(as far as i know, the people in that group are not friends, you wanna in, you are in) won't change the fact that everything you say there is NOT privacy, especially when it comes to fud. if you don't think so, point me to the sentense in the user agreement to correct me.don't try to divert attention away by your ridiculous attemption to sueing xiaoshan.we know words, we are not stupid, we are not sfinder's TA.
my question is if zhao150's qq group open for public or just for friendsQuote from: heyD on November 03, 2014, 12:09:38 amQuote from: coins on November 03, 2014, 12:05:26 amis the QQ group a public place and everybody free to get in? I heard QQ group need apply to join。 stick to the point. answer my question: which sentense in the user agreement makes you think it that way?
Quote from: coins on November 03, 2014, 12:05:26 amis the QQ group a public place and everybody free to get in? I heard QQ group need apply to join。 stick to the point. answer my question: which sentense in the user agreement makes you think it that way?
is the QQ group a public place and everybody free to get in? I heard QQ group need apply to join。
Quote from: coins on November 02, 2014, 10:14:52 pmhi shan, sorry for bugging you . just try to confirm with you if the QQ message is from private QQ group and not a public forum? i know in china ppl do not respect the privacy but in USA we do ."Zhao150" told me the QQ message screenshot was from his private QQ group and you took it without his permission. I think we should respect ppl's privacy. can not post ppl's private message in the public. it is violated our US law. you may get sued are you sure you were not kidding me ?anyway, i kinda hope you say it that way.can you please tell me why you think the messages in the qq chat group should be treated as someone's privacy? a chat group is usually made up of many people, whatever someone says there is the message he wants everybody to know.let me take one step back, here is the user agreement of the qq chat group, which sentence makes you think it that way? point me there, please.http://admin.qun.qq.com/create/agreement.htmlsfinder, we have tones of evidences. we know that and you know that.you keep denying, we keep releasing. your choise.
hi shan, sorry for bugging you . just try to confirm with you if the QQ message is from private QQ group and not a public forum? i know in china ppl do not respect the privacy but in USA we do ."Zhao150" told me the QQ message screenshot was from his private QQ group and you took it without his permission. I think we should respect ppl's privacy. can not post ppl's private message in the public. it is violated our US law. you may get sued
Quote from: coins on November 02, 2014, 08:09:14 pm1) please focusing on this forum since sfinder has nothing to do with the guy in btc38(more than 2 diff id in btc38 as posted above)2)please focusing on why he got banned right after he try to track down the 400btc fun's issue as posted below https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10842.0 3) please let us know if " btswildpig深山野猪 Chinese community " is your another id in chinese board Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on November 02, 2014, 07:32:20 pmQuote from: coins on November 02, 2014, 07:07:33 pmJust Chat to sfinder over skype . he told me "ripplexiaoshan" just banned him form posting to this forum since his investigation need "ripplexiaoshan" 's chinese team to report all the fund that received from I3 chinese marketing team.too bad so sad I never banned him, nor did I have the permission to do that, as a local subforum moderator.Actually I indeed received a lot of accusations about Sfinder from many active members from Chinese community, most of them are continuously contributing to the community. Probably other global moderators banned him. Obviously, I am not the only one who received these accusations about Sfinder. I am still investigating this event, will disclose more info when necessary. What I can say now is that the accusations in this post is just a very small part of the total proofs I received.Keep tuned, not turned I like discussion, so I will answer all of your questions. 1/ whether Sfinder is linked to the guys spreading FUD on BTC38 or not, it is a critical issue. Unfortunately, we have proof showing that Sfinder posted same message on this forum and on BTC38, BTW, chatting history in QQ group shows that he admitted himself.2/ I didn't ban him, nor I have the permission, I told you. If he is really banned, obviously there is a reason. I'll figure out.3/ btswildpig is not me, he is one of the three representatives of Chinese community elected by over 50 Chinese members with good reputation and nominated by Bo Shen. His responsibility is to translate BM's post and as the bridge to communicate with 3I.
1) please focusing on this forum since sfinder has nothing to do with the guy in btc38(more than 2 diff id in btc38 as posted above)2)please focusing on why he got banned right after he try to track down the 400btc fun's issue as posted below https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10842.0 3) please let us know if " btswildpig深山野猪 Chinese community " is your another id in chinese board Quote from: ripplexiaoshan on November 02, 2014, 07:32:20 pmQuote from: coins on November 02, 2014, 07:07:33 pmJust Chat to sfinder over skype . he told me "ripplexiaoshan" just banned him form posting to this forum since his investigation need "ripplexiaoshan" 's chinese team to report all the fund that received from I3 chinese marketing team.too bad so sad I never banned him, nor did I have the permission to do that, as a local subforum moderator.Actually I indeed received a lot of accusations about Sfinder from many active members from Chinese community, most of them are continuously contributing to the community. Probably other global moderators banned him. Obviously, I am not the only one who received these accusations about Sfinder. I am still investigating this event, will disclose more info when necessary. What I can say now is that the accusations in this post is just a very small part of the total proofs I received.Keep tuned, not turned
Quote from: coins on November 02, 2014, 07:07:33 pmJust Chat to sfinder over skype . he told me "ripplexiaoshan" just banned him form posting to this forum since his investigation need "ripplexiaoshan" 's chinese team to report all the fund that received from I3 chinese marketing team.too bad so sad I never banned him, nor did I have the permission to do that, as a local subforum moderator.Actually I indeed received a lot of accusations about Sfinder from many active members from Chinese community, most of them are continuously contributing to the community. Probably other global moderators banned him. Obviously, I am not the only one who received these accusations about Sfinder. I am still investigating this event, will disclose more info when necessary. What I can say now is that the accusations in this post is just a very small part of the total proofs I received.Keep tuned, not turned
Just Chat to sfinder over skype . he told me "ripplexiaoshan" just banned him form posting to this forum since his investigation need "ripplexiaoshan" 's chinese team to report all the fund that received from I3 chinese marketing team.too bad so sad
I never banned him, nor did I have the permission to do that, as a local subforum moderator.Actually I indeed received a lot of accusations about Sfinder from many active members from Chinese community, most of them are continuously contributing to the community. Probably other global moderators banned him. Obviously, I am not the only one who received these accusations about Sfinder. I am still investigating this event, will disclose more info when necessary. What I can say now is that the accusations in this post is just a very small part of the total proofs I received.Keep tuned, not turned
Quote from: emski on November 02, 2014, 07:45:23 pmWho banned sfinder and why ?I am not able to link "Sfinder" with the one in btc38 since both are not relevant. He got banned today just because he is trying to track down how 400btc fun were spend in chinese community
Who banned sfinder and why ?
Everything he said sounds reasonable
Thanks for the translation neosp!Everyone has different point of view and he is free to express it. If someone dislikes sfinder's behavior - that is what the voting is for.You cant say he is lying though. There is some truth in his words.However if he uses this solely to influence the price then it is an issue.
Sfinder announced at a QQ group yesterday that he would start a post to indicate a scandal regarding the I3 China in order to drive the price of BTSX down to 0.06 CNY (Now it's 0.1 CNY) . Many people from the Chinese community witnessed that comment and his intentions . He has a long rap sheet in the Chinese community , everybody knows that , including some well respected members .
Before making any judgement, I just want to kindly ask, are you sfinder himself? is dacsunlimited.com you too? Why you use this ID (coins) to defend? Most of the Chinese community members know that you are in control of coin delegate team(3 delegates currently), which include 5 members originally, but now 3 of them quit because they don't like you. Please correct me if I am wrong. The community need to get full information from both sides before making any decision. Quote from: coins on November 02, 2014, 05:55:45 pmcan not prove the guy in btc38 is "sfinder". as i know you can name youself anyname in btc38. sfinder is "sfinder" in this forum in this community . sfinder is a long term contributor to this community including donate his own server to setup a demo wallet for the community.as i know sfinder is trying to following the spending of BM's 400btc funding that issued to chinese community in this April currently only around 2500cny being received by chinese community see his post as following https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10842.0Quote from: xeroc on November 02, 2014, 11:20:35 amShame on you sfinder ..Seriously: no one can forbid him to do so, but the "collective" can thankfully honor is service and vote him out having lost all his trust!IIRC it was stated from the beginning that delegates should stay as neutral as possible! And what he is doing is pure greed (I recall from another message that he is still buying) .. that is misuse of delegate position .. Disclaimer: all of the above is my personal opinion and I will act accordingly. You please make up your own mind and act accordingly!Quote from: sfinder on November 01, 2014, 12:50:53 amI3中国社区的推广基金使用情况汇总贴bm给予大中国区(4/25/2014)400个比特币(请看下面发放凭证當時值近30萬美元200萬人民幣),用与比特股中国区的推广,资金在中国区负责人手上掌握,目前我准备将收集到的使用情况反馈给英文区以及I3如果你们领取者能发帖汇总,也是对沈波的工作的支持以及对bts推广的支持,而且还可以回击好事者的无聊质疑。目前不仅国内就连国外社区的朋友都在问为什么中国社区的推广基金使用没有明细账** “BTS中文区发言人” 中的翻译成员也有收到沈波先生的资助,望你们也协助沈波先生的工作,将收到的明细报给社区**1)比特股之家收到2494BitCNYhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqTwk-e7yzJydDFnQmlkTVlkbWpubnJBbzR2UG5ucnc&usp=sharing#gid=0400个比特币发放凭证Code: [Select]862 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 1NFbNPYhQHeDGLXboXX9VTCHnPe6N9p71E ff02d912608860c157a64feb6f309a15dd1e1922b7710c6fe1de10787e44847e https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0 962 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 13nf5jATZ5ucdZPzDpwJwA1MELvQ7LKdU1 f153deeb39fc49107f9e91b7486742e8ea90782907d89417aa78531eb83130ad https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0 1,062 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 17VaGyg29yxz2zX824ospGasjAQBHdq1do f8b5a21181f140b3dd383af44c07c970b8fc4b738e2fa3b019e507dde8b61dcf https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0 1,162 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 1BAygNmQGYdhi5hfCijUSHQh91Et3tvj4M 0e7f95f760c60854b9ac1eae4746e28808272c0c44b1a83b36d3ca82efb3ebeb https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0
can not prove the guy in btc38 is "sfinder". as i know you can name youself anyname in btc38. sfinder is "sfinder" in this forum in this community . sfinder is a long term contributor to this community including donate his own server to setup a demo wallet for the community.as i know sfinder is trying to following the spending of BM's 400btc funding that issued to chinese community in this April currently only around 2500cny being received by chinese community see his post as following https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10842.0Quote from: xeroc on November 02, 2014, 11:20:35 amShame on you sfinder ..Seriously: no one can forbid him to do so, but the "collective" can thankfully honor is service and vote him out having lost all his trust!IIRC it was stated from the beginning that delegates should stay as neutral as possible! And what he is doing is pure greed (I recall from another message that he is still buying) .. that is misuse of delegate position .. Disclaimer: all of the above is my personal opinion and I will act accordingly. You please make up your own mind and act accordingly!Quote from: sfinder on November 01, 2014, 12:50:53 amI3中国社区的推广基金使用情况汇总贴bm给予大中国区(4/25/2014)400个比特币(请看下面发放凭证當時值近30萬美元200萬人民幣),用与比特股中国区的推广,资金在中国区负责人手上掌握,目前我准备将收集到的使用情况反馈给英文区以及I3如果你们领取者能发帖汇总,也是对沈波的工作的支持以及对bts推广的支持,而且还可以回击好事者的无聊质疑。目前不仅国内就连国外社区的朋友都在问为什么中国社区的推广基金使用没有明细账** “BTS中文区发言人” 中的翻译成员也有收到沈波先生的资助,望你们也协助沈波先生的工作,将收到的明细报给社区**1)比特股之家收到2494BitCNYhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqTwk-e7yzJydDFnQmlkTVlkbWpubnJBbzR2UG5ucnc&usp=sharing#gid=0400个比特币发放凭证Code: [Select]862 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 1NFbNPYhQHeDGLXboXX9VTCHnPe6N9p71E ff02d912608860c157a64feb6f309a15dd1e1922b7710c6fe1de10787e44847e https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0 962 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 13nf5jATZ5ucdZPzDpwJwA1MELvQ7LKdU1 f153deeb39fc49107f9e91b7486742e8ea90782907d89417aa78531eb83130ad https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0 1,062 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 17VaGyg29yxz2zX824ospGasjAQBHdq1do f8b5a21181f140b3dd383af44c07c970b8fc4b738e2fa3b019e507dde8b61dcf https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0 1,162 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 1BAygNmQGYdhi5hfCijUSHQh91Et3tvj4M 0e7f95f760c60854b9ac1eae4746e28808272c0c44b1a83b36d3ca82efb3ebeb https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0
Shame on you sfinder ..Seriously: no one can forbid him to do so, but the "collective" can thankfully honor is service and vote him out having lost all his trust!IIRC it was stated from the beginning that delegates should stay as neutral as possible! And what he is doing is pure greed (I recall from another message that he is still buying) .. that is misuse of delegate position .. Disclaimer: all of the above is my personal opinion and I will act accordingly. You please make up your own mind and act accordingly!
I3中国社区的推广基金使用情况汇总贴bm给予大中国区(4/25/2014)400个比特币(请看下面发放凭证當時值近30萬美元200萬人民幣),用与比特股中国区的推广,资金在中国区负责人手上掌握,目前我准备将收集到的使用情况反馈给英文区以及I3如果你们领取者能发帖汇总,也是对沈波的工作的支持以及对bts推广的支持,而且还可以回击好事者的无聊质疑。目前不仅国内就连国外社区的朋友都在问为什么中国社区的推广基金使用没有明细账** “BTS中文区发言人” 中的翻译成员也有收到沈波先生的资助,望你们也协助沈波先生的工作,将收到的明细报给社区**1)比特股之家收到2494BitCNYhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqTwk-e7yzJydDFnQmlkTVlkbWpubnJBbzR2UG5ucnc&usp=sharing#gid=0400个比特币发放凭证Code: [Select]862 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 1NFbNPYhQHeDGLXboXX9VTCHnPe6N9p71E ff02d912608860c157a64feb6f309a15dd1e1922b7710c6fe1de10787e44847e https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0 962 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 13nf5jATZ5ucdZPzDpwJwA1MELvQ7LKdU1 f153deeb39fc49107f9e91b7486742e8ea90782907d89417aa78531eb83130ad https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0 1,062 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 17VaGyg29yxz2zX824ospGasjAQBHdq1do f8b5a21181f140b3dd383af44c07c970b8fc4b738e2fa3b019e507dde8b61dcf https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0 1,162 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 1BAygNmQGYdhi5hfCijUSHQh91Et3tvj4M 0e7f95f760c60854b9ac1eae4746e28808272c0c44b1a83b36d3ca82efb3ebeb https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0
862 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 1NFbNPYhQHeDGLXboXX9VTCHnPe6N9p71E ff02d912608860c157a64feb6f309a15dd1e1922b7710c6fe1de10787e44847e https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0 962 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 13nf5jATZ5ucdZPzDpwJwA1MELvQ7LKdU1 f153deeb39fc49107f9e91b7486742e8ea90782907d89417aa78531eb83130ad https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0 1,062 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 17VaGyg29yxz2zX824ospGasjAQBHdq1do f8b5a21181f140b3dd383af44c07c970b8fc4b738e2fa3b019e507dde8b61dcf https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0 1,162 4/25/2014 Bitshares-Eastern-Operation Storage (China) 100.00 BTC Invictus 1BAygNmQGYdhi5hfCijUSHQh91Et3tvj4M 0e7f95f760c60854b9ac1eae4746e28808272c0c44b1a83b36d3ca82efb3ebeb https://docs.google.com/a/invictus-innovations.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtRmp4NraeAydHlTd1VnaWF3SXA5Q20wUU9NTFN6UkE#gid=0
Don't use same spelling mistakes as proof of identity - It is not.You should use your head. These accounts might not be linked to sfinder at all.
can not prove the guy in btc38 is "sfinder". as i know you can name youself anyname in btc38. sfinder is "sfinder" in this forum in this community . sfinder is a long term contributor to this community including donate his own server to setup a demo wallet for the community.as i know sfinder is trying to following the spending of BM's 400btc funding that issued to chinese community in this April see his post as following https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10842.0Quote from: xeroc on November 02, 2014, 11:20:35 amShame on you sfinder ..Seriously: no one can forbid him to do so, but the "collective" can thankfully honor is service and vote him out having lost all his trust!IIRC it was stated from the beginning that delegates should stay as neutral as possible! And what he is doing is pure greed (I recall from another message that he is still buying) .. that is misuse of delegate position .. Disclaimer: all of the above is my personal opinion and I will act accordingly. You please make up your own mind and act accordingly!
chinese community is checking how their market leader spend around 400BTC BM's funding..only around 2500cny fund were recorded ....it may turn into a scandal.... stay turmed.....
Placeholder..... I have something to say regarding the attitude to this accident. stay turned..........
the follow is a public comments area in btc38.com for many investor. 星在飘我在找 is ID of sfinder becasue it is picture of information ,so I type the Chinese word below it ,each Chinese can check it . sfinder :"第12轮测试刚刚开始就挂了,要硬分叉,看看能否成功救活。根据我对3I的了解,市场功能至少要测试20-30次以上。也就说要半年左右的时间,这种速度是很快的了。但做开发的朋友都清楚。当然半年也很难熬。对3i没有信心的一定会先抛币把资金抽出来做其它事"sfinder :"其实你和某些人一样,都是技术盲,BM将没有测试过的程序推向市场,把我们当小白鼠,你清楚内情吗?由于我们这些bts的玩家没有对BM的市场功能进行攻击 ,都第一时间把问题回报给I3才没有造成大家的投资归零。你知道上个月btsx做了几次硬分叉吗?好几次硬分叉都是有致命的问题。你知道为什么i3的员工对ALT都顶礼膜拜吗?就因为ALT每次都能发现市场的致命问题。大家不能只看表象,要看实际情况。了解技术内情的人每次都感觉在过山车。5个BTSx受委托人,如果我真有那么多,你要感谢我每月都想btsx输血,有那个受委托人是盈利的,我的确帮助不下10个人设立委托人,但他们是自己运行的,关于法律问题,如果AGS的捐款被没收,那么谁来推动btsx的后续开发维护工作。有时需要多想想"ps : all the up in formations are public . there is no contradiction between any delegate and me ,no benefit relationship.I just show the true and my view.
Quote from: emski on November 02, 2014, 11:39:05 amThanks for the translation neosp!Everyone has different point of view and he is free to express it. If someone dislikes sfinder's behavior - that is what the voting is for.You cant say he is lying though. There is some truth in his words.However if he uses this solely to influence the price then it is an issue.you can see this, another guy with name extremely similar to dacsunlimited is quoting what sfinder said and spreading FUD. Actually I think this guy is just sfinder himself. Only he will quote what he said. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10905.0
Quote from: BTSdac on November 02, 2014, 06:31:34 amthe follow is a public comments area in btc38.com for many investor. 星在飘我在找 is ID of sfinder becasue it is picture of information ,so I type the Chinese word below it ,each Chinese can check it . sfinder :"第12轮测试刚刚开始就挂了,要硬分叉,看看能否成功救活。根据我对3I的了解,市场功能至少要测试20-30次以上。也就说要半年左右的时间,这种速度是很快的了。但做开发的朋友都清楚。当然半年也很难熬。对3i没有信心的一定会先抛币把资金抽出来做其它事"sfinder :"其实你和某些人一样,都是技术盲,BM将没有测试过的程序推向市场,把我们当小白鼠,你清楚内情吗?由于我们这些bts的玩家没有对BM的市场功能进行攻击 ,都第一时间把问题回报给I3才没有造成大家的投资归零。你知道上个月btsx做了几次硬分叉吗?好几次硬分叉都是有致命的问题。你知道为什么i3的员工对ALT都顶礼膜拜吗?就因为ALT每次都能发现市场的致命问题。大家不能只看表象,要看实际情况。了解技术内情的人每次都感觉在过山车。5个BTSx受委托人,如果我真有那么多,你要感谢我每月都想btsx输血,有那个受委托人是盈利的,我的确帮助不下10个人设立委托人,但他们是自己运行的,关于法律问题,如果AGS的捐款被没收,那么谁来推动btsx的后续开发维护工作。有时需要多想想"ps : all the up in formations are public . there is no contradiction between any delegate and me ,no benefit relationship.I just show the true and my view.It could be nice if someone is to translate this into english. You should also state what exactly is wrong with his words.
sfinder :"第12轮测试刚刚开始就挂了,要硬分叉,看看能否成功救活。根据我对3I的了解,市场功能至少要测试20-30次以上。也就说要半年左右的时间,这种速度是很快的了。但做开发的朋友都清楚。当然半年也很难熬。对3i没有信心的一定会先抛币把资金抽出来做其它事"
sfinder :"The 12th round dry run died before even started , it need to do a hard fork , see if it can be saved from death. According to my understanding for 3I , the market function needs at least 20-30 rounds , that's about half a year , it's even considered as "quick" , the people who does development work must know about this . Of course , half a year is still hard to endure , the ones who don't have faith in 3I must dump their coin and withdraw funds to invest on other stuff ."
sfinder :"其实你和某些人一样,都是技术盲,BM将没有测试过的程序推向市场,把我们当小白鼠,你清楚内情吗?由于我们这些bts的玩家没有对BM的市场功能进行攻击 ,都第一时间把问题回报给I3才没有造成大家的投资归零。你知道上个月btsx做了几次硬分叉吗?好几次硬分叉都是有致命的问题。你知道为什么i3的员工对ALT都顶礼膜拜吗?就因为ALT每次都能发现市场的致命问题。大家不能只看表象,要看实际情况。了解技术内情的人每次都感觉在过山车。5个BTSx受委托人,如果我真有那么多,你要感谢我每月都想btsx输血,有那个受委托人是盈利的,我的确帮助不下10个人设立委托人,但他们是自己运行的,关于法律问题,如果AGS的捐款被没收,那么谁来推动btsx的后续开发维护工作。有时需要多想想"
sfinder :"@蓝田玉暖, it is because you are not a technical guy. In fact, BM releases un-tested products to the market, using us as laboratory mice, do you know that? The reason why BTSX market didn't crash is because we didn't use these bugs to attack the system, but report them to I3 instead. Do you know how many hard-forks were there in last month? Many of them were to fix lethal bugs. Do you know why I3 members treated alt like god? It is because he could find critical problems. You must not look only at the surface of things. Anyone who can read technical details knows the real situation is like roller coaster. If I really had 5 active delegates, then you should be grateful for that. Because it means I spend money in btsx every month while they didn't make any profit. I admit that I helped more than 10 guys to set up their delegates, but these delegates run on their own. Furthermore, speaking of the legal issues about AGS, we have to consider if AGS are confiscated, then who should be in charge for development and maintaining tasks after that."
Quote from: Overthetop on November 01, 2014, 06:20:44 pmQuote from: heyD on November 01, 2014, 06:08:41 pmPeople are free to do whatever they want to, either telling the truth or lies is up to them.But running delegates of BTS, especially occuping about 5 spots of the top 101, he should know what that means. Being a delegate means being a builder of the ecosystem, rather than a rumor monger or maeket manipulator.Yes, The delegates should be the builder ,not the destroyer.Let us check it out!Please link to the post in the Chinese section. I will use google translate to attempt to understand the situation - and then vote accordingly.
Quote from: heyD on November 01, 2014, 06:08:41 pmPeople are free to do whatever they want to, either telling the truth or lies is up to them.But running delegates of BTS, especially occuping about 5 spots of the top 101, he should know what that means. Being a delegate means being a builder of the ecosystem, rather than a rumor monger or maeket manipulator.Yes, The delegates should be the builder ,not the destroyer.Let us check it out!
People are free to do whatever they want to, either telling the truth or lies is up to them.But running delegates of BTS, especially occuping about 5 spots of the top 101, he should know what that means. Being a delegate means being a builder of the ecosystem, rather than a rumor monger or maeket manipulator.