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Title: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: sudo on July 23, 2014, 02:08:16 pm: if PTS pow Change into dpos+titan
a new client software
id must registered again

if it is possibe put PTS into BTS as soon as possible?
the price of PTS is so frustrating now
$ 3.59

then we can trade pts-bts in bitsharesx instead of exchange pts-cny-bts pts-btc-bts
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: fuzzy on July 23, 2014, 05:11:29 pm: Dan stated in the last Dev Hangout that they have pretty much concluded they will not be making PTS DPOS-based. Can't say I agree with that move, but they are likely doing it because they do not want to anger the mining community who has been quite vocal about this stuff in the past. Just my take...

I am personally holding PTS and wondering why someone would want to honor an inferior (bitcoin-based) coin over something with DPOS + TITAN.
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: bytemaster on July 23, 2014, 06:20:32 pm: Quote from: fuznuts on July 23, 2014, 05:11:29 pm
Dan stated in the last Dev Hangout that they have pretty much concluded they will not be making PTS DPOS-based. Can't say I agree with that move, but they are likely doing it because they do not want to anger the mining community who has been quite vocal about this stuff in the past. Just my take...

I am personally holding PTS and wondering why someone would want to honor an inferior (bitcoin-based) coin over something with DPOS + TITAN.

Once the exchanges figure out how to integrate with BTS X, then it should be relatively easy for them to integrate a PTS upgrade or even PTS on BTS X. The primary argument for not changing things is that it keeps all the eggs out of one basket.
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: luckybit on July 23, 2014, 07:45:35 pm: Quote from: sudo on July 23, 2014, 02:08:16 pm
if PTS pow Change into dpos+titan
a new client software
id must registered again

if it is possibe put PTS into BTS as soon as possible?
the price of PTS is so frustrating now
$ 3.59

then we can trade pts-bts in bitsharesx instead of exchange pts-cny-bts pts-btc-bts

How about the ability for delegates or anyone else to reinvest a specified percentage of their profits into any selected BitAsset?

Suppose a delegate wants to reinvest 100% of his or her profits to go directly into PTS? This should be possible. It should also be possible for a delegate or any user to reinvest a specific percentage of anything to anything else.

We can all benefit by promoting automatic reinvestment.
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: sudo on July 24, 2014, 02:59:26 am: Quote from: bytemaster on July 23, 2014, 06:20:32 pm
Quote from: fuznuts on July 23, 2014, 05:11:29 pm
Dan stated in the last Dev Hangout that they have pretty much concluded they will not be making PTS DPOS-based. Can't say I agree with that move, but they are likely doing it because they do not want to anger the mining community who has been quite vocal about this stuff in the past. Just my take...

I am personally holding PTS and wondering why someone would want to honor an inferior (bitcoin-based) coin over something with DPOS + TITAN.

Once the exchanges figure out how to integrate with BTS X, then it should be relatively easy for them to integrate a PTS upgrade or even PTS on BTS X. The primary argument for not changing things is that it keeps all the eggs out of one basket.

I thought keyhotee will be the itunes&appstore
now BitsharesX may be can take the place of keyhotee

uniform id system
uniform brand
uniform UI sytle

memo can evolve into bitChat
pay some bts ,you get some Network traffic
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: donkeypong on July 24, 2014, 03:08:27 am: PTS needs some help and I hoped it would be DPOS. Keeping the miners in the loop is a poor reason for letting PTS decline. Let the miners mine something else and sell it on exchanges for PTS, which is what the other POS coin developers push their folks to do.
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: fuzzy on July 24, 2014, 05:34:12 am: Quote from: donkeypong on July 24, 2014, 03:08:27 am
PTS needs some help and I hoped it would be DPOS. Keeping the miners in the loop is a poor reason for letting PTS decline. Let the miners mine something else and sell it on exchanges for PTS, which is what the other POS coin developers push their folks to do.

The quote below seems like it clarifies. DPOS is still in testing to a large degree, so it makes sense not to convert it (yet). The drop in price may even reflect the fact that it has not been converted to DPOS...of course this is just speculation.

Quote from: bytemaster on July 23, 2014, 06:20:32 pm
Quote from: fuznuts on July 23, 2014, 05:11:29 pm
Dan stated in the last Dev Hangout that they have pretty much concluded they will not be making PTS DPOS-based. Can't say I agree with that move, but they are likely doing it because they do not want to anger the mining community who has been quite vocal about this stuff in the past. Just my take...

I am personally holding PTS and wondering why someone would want to honor an inferior (bitcoin-based) coin over something with DPOS + TITAN.

Once the exchanges figure out how to integrate with BTS X, then it should be relatively easy for them to integrate a PTS upgrade or even PTS on BTS X. The primary argument for not changing things is that it keeps all the eggs out of one basket.
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: donkeypong on July 24, 2014, 02:37:27 pm: Yes, thanks for the explanations. I find them a little inconsistent. But that is the nature of a fast-growing system, where ideas are often replaced even before they can become reality. I've also read elsewhere that they are thinking of floating PTS on BTSX. That would be an improvement, but I prefer having a separate currency out there which brings others into this ecosystem. PTS can remain that separate currency; I'm just not in favor of continuing the mining when it is such a waste of resources (and when a much better alternative existed, that was developed in house).
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: liondani on July 24, 2014, 09:36:09 pm: Quote from: bytemaster on July 23, 2014, 06:20:32 pm
The primary argument for not changing things is that it keeps all the eggs out of one basket.

PTS basket...

(http://www.billfrymire.com/gallery/webJpgs/broken-eggs-basket-diversify.jpg)
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: sudo on July 26, 2014, 01:22:02 am: PTS can be Integrated into BitShares Me
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: sumantso on July 26, 2014, 01:39:38 am: I know there are good arguments against it, but I do hope AGS is also converted like this. Simply because having it tied to one set of private keys forever is a massive risk.
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: donkeypong on August 19, 2014, 03:07:53 am: That should be a broken basket, first of all, until PTS is fixed. So yes, some of the eggs will fall and break. But I'd say all the developments and talk related to BTSX has hijacked PTS' chances this week. People are selling one to get the other. Nothing wrong with DNS and Vote, but you've got the future of banking on the other side, selling for peanuts and about to explode.

So, if I could find it, I'd show a picture of a kid dropping a chicken egg to get a chocolate egg. Duh!
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: tonyk on August 19, 2014, 03:17:42 am: Quote from: donkeypong on August 19, 2014, 03:07:53 am
That should be a broken basket, first of all, until PTS is fixed. So yes, some of the eggs will fall and break. But I'd say all the developments and talk related to BTSX has hijacked PTS' chances this week. People are selling one to get the other. Nothing wrong with DNS and Vote, but you've got the future of banking on the other side, selling for peanuts and about to explode.

So, if I could find it, I'd show a picture of a kid dropping a chicken egg to get a chocolate egg. Duh!

Where are liondani and/or Stan when you need them....
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: Stan on August 19, 2014, 03:44:07 am: Quote from: tonyk on August 19, 2014, 03:17:42 am
Quote from: donkeypong on August 19, 2014, 03:07:53 am
That should be a broken basket, first of all, until PTS is fixed. So yes, some of the eggs will fall and break. But I'd say all the developments and talk related to BTSX has hijacked PTS' chances this week. People are selling one to get the other. Nothing wrong with DNS and Vote, but you've got the future of banking on the other side, selling for peanuts and about to explode.

So, if I could find it, I'd show a picture of a kid dropping a chicken egg to get a chocolate egg. Duh!

Where are liondani and/or Stan when you need them....

(http://www.notmartha.org/images/other/2010mar/eastereggs/opening_firstcrack.jpg)
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: tonyk on August 19, 2014, 03:50:13 am: @ Stan +5%
Title: Re: When will PTS Integrated into BTS？pow→DPOS+TITAN，thoroughly remould oneself
Post by: sudo on August 19, 2014, 03:51:00 am: Quote from: Stan on August 19, 2014, 03:44:07 am
Quote from: tonyk on August 19, 2014, 03:17:42 am
Quote from: donkeypong on August 19, 2014, 03:07:53 am
That should be a broken basket, first of all, until PTS is fixed. So yes, some of the eggs will fall and break. But I'd say all the developments and talk related to BTSX has hijacked PTS' chances this week. People are selling one to get the other. Nothing wrong with DNS and Vote, but you've got the future of banking on the other side, selling for peanuts and about to explode.

So, if I could find it, I'd show a picture of a kid dropping a chicken egg to get a chocolate egg. Duh!

Where are liondani and/or Stan when you need them....

(http://www.notmartha.org/images/other/2010mar/eastereggs/opening_firstcrack.jpg)

why not do this
1.snapshot aug21
2.embedded pts into bitshares x as a Bitasset
3.give back the rest pts to the ags donater & pts keeper by the shares percent
4.let people get pts in bitshares x through the private key

then we can trede directly pts-cny pts-btsx in bitsharesx instead of btc38 or bter

PTS as a bitasset in bitsharesx
we can trade pts-bts pts-cny in low fees instead of btc38 0.1%fee
direct pts-bts not pts-cny cny-bts in btc38 with fee 0.2%

pts is just a liquid stock rights ,why not chang into a bitasset in Bitsharesx market?

if PTS(dpos) a new client there will be 101+ new delegate & payment is a waste

pts as a asset in bitshares X with 2m total num is equal to AGS
but if pts is a single dpos , when it burns after few years, maybe pts1.5m, AGS sitll 2m, it's not fair, that's a Naked plunder to agser