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Title: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: uniqlo on March 24, 2015, 10:29:01 am
With this current tough situation,as a dev leader,he should stand out and comfort us,but he didn't.
Why?I also noticed that he didn't log in since 19/3.Something wrong with him?Sick?Or just keep silence?but why?
thats not a good sign for bitshares.
 :-[
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: uniqlo on March 24, 2015, 10:43:33 am
Wow, I may have to hand over my favorite motto...

(http://i.gyazo.com/e249d54c49e8ed2cb11189da81d3c4e6.png)

with my empty pocket,i can not think bigger....
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: uniqlo on March 24, 2015, 10:47:50 am
http://thevalueswan.com/is-bitshares-undervalued-by-60-times-60x/ (http://thevalueswan.com/is-bitshares-undervalued-by-60-times-60x/)

fuck this articles

Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: fuzzy on March 24, 2015, 10:50:55 am
Hey Uniqlo!

Sounds like you are upset.  BM is not technically allowed to post in the manner he used to due to some potentially good things going on in the background.  However, we do still hold hangouts on a weekly basis every Friday.  :)
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: wings on March 24, 2015, 11:56:50 am
Mr Larimer should read his PMs. 
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: uniqlo on March 24, 2015, 12:09:37 pm
Mr Larimer should read his PMs.
I guess Mr Larimer is busy dumping his BTS to us.
YES,I AM UPSET,SO I MAKE THIS SPECULATION.
HORRIBLE SLIENCE.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: speedy on March 24, 2015, 12:13:51 pm
Everything Ive seen has shown BM is committed to creating value. These allegations of dumping are unfounded. I just have doubts about the direction of the project.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: xiahui135 on March 24, 2015, 12:18:59 pm
If people are working hard, you need not to be so angry. in this situation, the dump is unfounded.
except there are some things we do not know, and some other ones know. If this happen, we all might dump BTS.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: uniqlo on March 24, 2015, 12:24:20 pm
Everything Ive seen has shown BM is committed to creating value. These allegations of dumping are unfounded. I just have doubts about the direction of the project.
As far as  i can see,he didn't submit any commits since Mar 14.
https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/commits/devshares?author=bytemaster (https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/commits/devshares?author=bytemaster)
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: speedy on March 24, 2015, 12:26:50 pm
Everything Ive seen has shown BM is committed to creating value. These allegations of dumping are unfounded. I just have doubts about the direction of the project.
As far as  i can see,he didn't submit any commits since Mar 14.
https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/commits/devshares?author=bytemaster (https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/commits/devshares?author=bytemaster)

At this point hes more of a manager than a coder. Hes meeting people behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: oldman on March 24, 2015, 12:28:16 pm
Funny how folks are blind to the acceleration of the development cycle over the past month.

The community needs to realize the current level of interaction is both normal and healthy.

A weekly shareholder conference call and monthly newsletter is far more community interaction than the vast majority of start ups are willing to support.

I am very happy to see the core devs focused and making a hard push to 1.0.

As to the price of BTS, it's either an opportunity or a disaster. The difference is the amount of due diligence completed by the investor.

Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: xiahui135 on March 24, 2015, 12:33:17 pm
I find someone is talking about bts' breaking word story, suggest to others not to buy bts at btc38 exchange chatbox. they advertise the bts is centralized that the community can easily break the words and more and more bts will come out to dilute the investors' share, though the software is decentralized.
every time I check it, there always some people are advertising to suggset others not buy bts...

Maybe we need some bts fans to give people confidence. though we should not encourage people to buy, we should let people know what bitshares really is and  people will make their own decision.   
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: bytemaster on March 24, 2015, 12:52:21 pm
I work every day from 8:30AM to 7PM along with 5 other developers to make BTS a success and that is just the developers.

No one has more to lose from BTS failing than me and when people like wings are upset because they gave money to support a vision that is harder than they thought to achieve.

If this were a "pump and dump" as wings has claimed then I would have sold when we hit $100M rather than held.   

I am not going to give up and continue to fight and learn. 
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: Ben Mason on March 24, 2015, 12:55:33 pm
Are the principals on which BitShares were founded still relevant and being adhered to?  More so than ever.
Are the technological innovations represented by BitShares still relevant to the market?  More so than ever.
Is there a need to continue to innovate and evolve?  More so than ever.
Are the developers and community members (including BM) working their asses off to develop BitShares and prepare for the networking to come?  More so than ever.
Is any investor owed anything by this project in the short term?  Absolutely not and it is utterly ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

When BitShares is ready, the tiny group of parties within crypto that would like BitShares to fail will be irrelevant.

Hard work, patience and resolve.
 
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: lastagile on March 24, 2015, 12:57:22 pm
I am around and working harder than ever to add value.
some people said u dead in car accident. so happy to see u again.
I am around and working harder than ever to add value.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: vegolino on March 24, 2015, 12:58:54 pm
Are the principals on which BitShares were founded still relevant and being adhered to?  More so than ever.
Are the technological innovations represented by BitShares still relevant to the market?  More so than ever.
Is there a need to continue to innovate and evolve?  More so than ever.
Are the developers and community members (including BM) working their asses off to develop BitShares and prepare for the networking to come?  More so than ever.
Is any investor owed anything by this project in the short term?  Absolutely not and it is utterly ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

When BitShares is ready, the tiny group of parties within crypto that would like BitShares to fail will be irrelevant.

Hard work, patience and resolve.
 
  +5%
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on March 24, 2015, 12:59:53 pm
Posts/threads like these make me think there are two issues at hand.

1. Sockpuppet troll happy just causing trouble to drive the price down so they can buy.. or maybe even just to cause trouble because they see bitshares as a real threat to whatever else they are doing. Saying he is hiding when he was just on a hangout Friday is completely contrary to reality.

2. We are not doing a good enough job communicating updates to 'everyone'. Our good news updates often are not more than a single forum thread post that gets 3-4 days of attention and mostly from those that know about them coming or are following all areas of the forum and then drops off the radar to be replaced by these.

There are a few things I propose should/could be done to help:

1. Send email updates out to all forum participants about updates perhaps in a digest every two weeks. Everything from bitshares itself to the user initiatives.. or rather.. send out the nullstreet newsletter to everyone via email.

2. Start 'sticky' posting all these latest updates for a period of 30 days from the time of the update. I think this will help people who come browsing find out what is going on more easily. 

3. Create a forum section called 'sour grapes' or something else.. other ideas are 'concerned citizens' where we can consolidate all the actors into their own space to enjoy their sour grape together and not cause the rest of our discussion to be detracted.

These are just a few possible ideas off the top of my head. Anybody have other suggestions?
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: uniqlo on March 24, 2015, 01:03:50 pm
I am around and working harder than ever to add value.
Oh..You finally show up..
Someone assumed you didn't show up these days because of the shit price,you were embarrassed to the public
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: speedy on March 24, 2015, 01:10:07 pm
...

If youre going to criticize try to make it semi constructive.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: btswildpig on March 24, 2015, 01:11:34 pm
you're barking at the wrong tree , pal .....
No matter BM did or didn't do , it didn't happened in the past several days .

And I really doubt this is a sign of someone cashing out rather some kind of manipulation at work .

Do more research on recent events about certain things , you'll see the pattern .

You're officially 5 months late for assigning blames .
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: vlight on March 24, 2015, 01:33:40 pm
I am around and working harder than ever to add value.

 +5%

Please don't give up!
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: fav on March 24, 2015, 01:36:22 pm
Funny how folks are blind to the acceleration of the development cycle over the past month.

The community needs to realize the current level of interaction is both normal and healthy.

A weekly shareholder conference call and monthly newsletter is far more community interaction than the vast majority of start ups are willing to support.

I am very happy to see the core devs focused and making a hard push to 1.0.

As to the price of BTS, it's either an opportunity or a disaster. The difference is the amount of due diligence completed by the investor.

this.  +5%
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: mdj on March 24, 2015, 05:29:03 pm
We're closer than ever to v1, we have a web wallet, a lightwallet, better marketing team, cleaner website, other promising projects like moonstone coming along. Forget the price, the market is clearly being irrational - those who understand Bitshares and its potential are quietly accumulating. Yes my Bitshares are making a "loss" but I believe in this projects success which is why I see it as an all or nothing scenario to be in.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: oldman on March 24, 2015, 08:23:20 pm
I work every day from 8:30AM to 7PM along with 5 other developers to make BTS a success and that is just the developers.

No one has more to lose from BTS failing than me and when people like wings are upset because they gave money to support a vision that is harder than they thought to achieve.

If this were a "pump and dump" as wings has claimed then I would have sold when we hit $100M rather than held.   

I am not going to give up and continue to fight and learn.

I think it would help a great deal if folks read this a few times before complaining about the devs...
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: mf-tzo on March 24, 2015, 08:50:20 pm
I work every day from 8:30AM to 7PM along with 5 other developers to make BTS a success and that is just the developers.

No one has more to lose from BTS failing than me and when people like wings are upset because they gave money to support a vision that is harder than they thought to achieve.

If this were a "pump and dump" as wings has claimed then I would have sold when we hit $100M rather than held.   

I am not going to give up and continue to fight and learn.

Wow... +5% +5% +5%..You have responded to a stupid post by someone who has less than 10 posts in the whole forum... I would have just responded very impolitely to the OP if I were you or would have just ignored it...That shows to me strong and good character! Keep fighting, you are not the only one..
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: speedy on March 24, 2015, 08:51:36 pm
I work every day from 8:30AM to 7PM along with 5 other developers to make BTS a success and that is just the developers.

No one has more to lose from BTS failing than me and when people like wings are upset because they gave money to support a vision that is harder than they thought to achieve.

If this were a "pump and dump" as wings has claimed then I would have sold when we hit $100M rather than held.   

I am not going to give up and continue to fight and learn.

Thanks Bytemaster I for one never doubted the effort that youre putting into this project. Youre probably getting some really whinny PMs right now from get-rich-quick slackers. Chin up!

But Im sure Bytemaster was smart enough to go at least 50% BitUSD when we hit $100M. That would have been perfectly acceptable and I hope he did :)
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: uniqlo on March 24, 2015, 08:59:45 pm
I work every day from 8:30AM to 7PM along with 5 other developers to make BTS a success and that is just the developers.

No one has more to lose from BTS failing than me and when people like wings are upset because they gave money to support a vision that is harder than they thought to achieve.

If this were a "pump and dump" as wings has claimed then I would have sold when we hit $100M rather than held.   

I am not going to give up and continue to fight and learn.

Wow... +5% +5% +5%..You have responded to a stupid post by someone who has less than 10 posts in the whole forum... I would have just responded very impolitely to the OP if I were you or would have just ignored it...That shows to me strong and good character! Keep fighting, you are not the only one..
you should thank me for opening this thread,otherwise he will never speak this and cheer you up.
-5%
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: leon on March 24, 2015, 09:00:09 pm
We're closer than ever to v1, we have a web wallet, a lightwallet, better marketing team, cleaner website, other promising projects like moonstone coming along. Forget the price, the market is clearly being irrational - those who understand Bitshares and its potential are quietly accumulating. Yes my Bitshares are making a "loss" but I believe in this projects success which is why I see it as an all or nothing scenario to be in.
Yes  +5%
and hopefully the mobile wallet is on the horizon.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: Tuck Fheman on March 24, 2015, 09:36:46 pm
you should thank me for opening this thread,otherwise he will never speak this and cheer you up.
-5%

You sound like a government official.

I'm pretty sure any one of us could have elicited a response from BM at any time (because he's that kind of guy and he cares about BitShares), but sure... thank you uniqlo for building the roads to peace and prosperity for us all! Where do we send our taxes?

=b




Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: TurkeyLeg on March 24, 2015, 09:38:50 pm
I work every day from 8:30AM to 7PM along with 5 other developers to make BTS a success and that is just the developers.

No one has more to lose from BTS failing than me and when people like wings are upset because they gave money to support a vision that is harder than they thought to achieve.

If this were a "pump and dump" as wings has claimed then I would have sold when we hit $100M rather than held.   

I am not going to give up and continue to fight and learn.

Thank you Dan. Please continue your work and know that there is a large community of supporters who share you vision. We also share your desire to see BTS become a wild success!

There will always be a vocal minority, and they have their own role to play. Onward and Upward!
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: Tuck Fheman on March 24, 2015, 09:55:18 pm
Thank you Dan. Please continue your work and know that there is a large community of supporters who share you vision. We also share your desire to see BTS become a wild success!

There will always be a vocal minority, and they have their own role to play. Onward and Upward!

All I know is, I'm even more fired up about BitShares after hearing why Charles Hoskinson left (https://youtu.be/-UT3OZySRcA). I missed all of that in the early days.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: bytemaster on March 25, 2015, 12:57:28 pm
Thank you Dan. Please continue your work and know that there is a large community of supporters who share you vision. We also share your desire to see BTS become a wild success!

There will always be a vocal minority, and they have their own role to play. Onward and Upward!

All I know is, I'm even more fired up about BitShares after hearing why Charles Hoskinson left (https://youtu.be/-UT3OZySRcA). I missed all of that in the early days.

Could you summarize his reason again?  I doubt he would EVER reveal the true reason he left.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: btswildpig on March 25, 2015, 12:59:57 pm
Thank you Dan. Please continue your work and know that there is a large community of supporters who share you vision. We also share your desire to see BTS become a wild success!

There will always be a vocal minority, and they have their own role to play. Onward and Upward!

All I know is, I'm even more fired up about BitShares after hearing why Charles Hoskinson left (https://youtu.be/-UT3OZySRcA). I missed all of that in the early days.

Could you summarize his reason again?  I doubt he would EVER reveal the true reason he left.

his version of reason is more like some business opinion and direction disagreement thingy ...... nothing specific ..
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: TurkeyLeg on March 25, 2015, 01:14:41 pm
Thank you Dan. Please continue your work and know that there is a large community of supporters who share you vision. We also share your desire to see BTS become a wild success!

There will always be a vocal minority, and they have their own role to play. Onward and Upward!

All I know is, I'm even more fired up about BitShares after hearing why Charles Hoskinson left (https://youtu.be/-UT3OZySRcA). I missed all of that in the early days.

Could you summarize his reason again?  I doubt he would EVER reveal the true reason he left.

CH said he was not interested in:

DACS
Volunteerism
Proving Austrian Economics

CH said he was more concerned with:

I3 Investors
Fiduciary Obligation
Growth
ROI

Quotes:

"The way Dan runs the company is that it is a referendum on his political philosophy."

"We're not here to prove Mises right or wrong, we are here to grow a company. So we kind of butt heads a lot and one of us had to go."

"By the way, Stan and Dan Larimer are some of the nicest people I have ever met in my life."



He went on to praise DPOS, bitUSD, DEX and paid delegates quite a bit.

Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: owsi623317 on March 25, 2015, 01:36:44 pm
I work every day from 8:30AM to 7PM along with 5 other developers to make BTS a success and that is just the developers.

No one has more to lose from BTS failing than me and when people like wings are upset because they gave money to support a vision that is harder than they thought to achieve.

If this were a "pump and dump" as wings has claimed then I would have sold when we hit $100M rather than held.   

I am not going to give up and continue to fight and learn.

Thank you BM.  +5%
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: xiahui135 on March 25, 2015, 02:49:16 pm
if bts has a capable team, bts will have gone much far.
The biggest problem is too many ideas but only little execution.

EDIT:
I mean we need concern to finish the core things, no more new things before we stable the wallet and market tool.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: oldman on March 25, 2015, 03:11:46 pm
if bts has a capable team, bts will have gone much far.
The biggest problem is too many ideas but only little execution.

EDIT:
I mean we need concern to finish the core things, no more new things before we stable the wallet and market tool.

This is exactly what is happening now.

 Core devs have ceased design by consensus via the forums and are now focused on execution.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: James212 on March 25, 2015, 05:49:18 pm
Thank you Dan. Please continue your work and know that there is a large community of supporters who share you vision. We also share your desire to see BTS become a wild success!

There will always be a vocal minority, and they have their own role to play. Onward and Upward!

All I know is, I'm even more fired up about BitShares after hearing why Charles Hoskinson left (https://youtu.be/-UT3OZySRcA). I missed all of that in the early days.

Could you summarize his reason again?  I doubt he would EVER reveal the true reason he left.

CH said he was not interested in:

DACS
Volunteerism
Proving Austrian Economics

CH said he was more concerned with:

I3 Investors
Fiduciary Obligation
Growth
ROI

Quotes:

"The way Dan runs the company is that it is a referendum on his political philosophy."

"We're not here to prove Mises right or wrong, we are here to grow a company. So we kind of butt heads a lot and one of us had to go."

"By the way, Stan and Dan Larimer are some of the nicest people I have ever met in my life."



He went on to praise DPOS, bitUSD, DEX and paid delegates quite a bit.

If these points are in fact correct, I agree with CH on this. HIs focus is the more effective focus for the management of the organization in my opinion.    I don't know what happened personally, but professionally I was concerned for BSTX when he left.   He seemed to add a lot of solid business thinking,  structure and strategy to the organization which we are currently sorely lacking.    It seems like my concerns with his departure were quite well founded. 
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: oldman on March 25, 2015, 06:57:38 pm
Thank you Dan. Please continue your work and know that there is a large community of supporters who share you vision. We also share your desire to see BTS become a wild success!

There will always be a vocal minority, and they have their own role to play. Onward and Upward!

All I know is, I'm even more fired up about BitShares after hearing why Charles Hoskinson left (https://youtu.be/-UT3OZySRcA). I missed all of that in the early days.

Could you summarize his reason again?  I doubt he would EVER reveal the true reason he left.

CH said he was not interested in:

DACS
Volunteerism
Proving Austrian Economics

CH said he was more concerned with:

I3 Investors
Fiduciary Obligation
Growth
ROI

Quotes:

"The way Dan runs the company is that it is a referendum on his political philosophy."

"We're not here to prove Mises right or wrong, we are here to grow a company. So we kind of butt heads a lot and one of us had to go."

"By the way, Stan and Dan Larimer are some of the nicest people I have ever met in my life."



He went on to praise DPOS, bitUSD, DEX and paid delegates quite a bit.

If these points are in fact correct, I agree with CH on this. HIs focus is the more effective focus for the management of the organization in my opinion.    I don't know what happened personally, but professionally I was concerned for BSTX when he left.   He seemed to add a lot of solid business thinking,  structure and strategy to the organization which we are currently sorely lacking.    It seems like my concerns with his departure were quite well founded.

I'm by no means knowledgeable on CH or his achievements, but I do have the general impression that he becomes involved in the front end of projects but leaves prior to execution.

BTS is not unique in this regard, he did the same with ETH and some other platform.

I will certainly pay attention if CH ever sticks with a project through execution but in context I don't think his departure from BTS at the earliest stage of development has any real bearing on the viability of the platform.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: mint chocolate chip on March 25, 2015, 07:09:42 pm
What we do know is that CH signed a non-disclosure agreement when he left I3, so anything he said in that Youtube video is in fact not the actual reason he left.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on March 25, 2015, 07:28:56 pm
What we do know is that CH signed a non-disclosure agreement when he left I3, so anything he said in that Youtube video is in fact not the actual reason he left.

Not necessarily.. NDAs are generally about business itself.. personal opinions and fair comment on relationships and ideas are ok to go on and discuss at his pleasure. NDA might have taken issue if he had perhaps revealed some kind of details regarding some trade secret.. trade secret in the business vernacular that is.

I did notice through out the hangout of all the things he discussed.. he gave praise to bitshares on a number of occasions.. and only noted one thing he thought could be done better.. the voting for delegates in our network. That's not news to us.. we all know there is room for improvement but there are more critical functions to deal with now.

CH brought up a lot of things about bitcoin that you could tell in the hangout they did not like hearing. Someone even tried to suggest how 10 years from now people are still going to want to use bitcoin.. but CH shot down that idea.. I can see why they would not like to have him speak at conferences.. it's not unlike why these bitcoin conferences don't want to have bitshares on the scene.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: mint chocolate chip on March 25, 2015, 07:58:42 pm
What we do know is that CH signed a non-disclosure agreement when he left I3, so anything he said in that Youtube video is in fact not the actual reason he left.

Not necessarily.. NDAs are generally about business itself.. personal opinions and fair comment on relationships and ideas are ok to go on and discuss at his pleasure. NDA might have taken issue if he had perhaps revealed some kind of details regarding some trade secret.. trade secret in the business vernacular that is.

I did notice through out the hangout of all the things he discussed.. he gave praise to bitshares on a number of occasions.. and only noted one thing he thought could be done better.. the voting for delegates in our network. That's not news to us.. we all know there is room for improvement but there are more critical functions to deal with now.

CH brought up a lot of things about bitcoin that you could tell in the hangout they did not like hearing. Someone even tried to suggest how 10 years from now people are still going to want to use bitcoin.. but CH shot down that idea.. I can see why they would not like to have him speak at conferences.. it's not unlike why these bitcoin conferences don't want to have bitshares on the scene.
IIRC, this NDA was about the reason he was forced to leave, that it not ever be discussed. A Chinese partner of I3 made that clear here in the forum when CH was talking too much about it, but much of that discussion was retracted.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: Tuck Fheman on March 25, 2015, 11:08:03 pm
Thank you Dan. Please continue your work and know that there is a large community of supporters who share you vision. We also share your desire to see BTS become a wild success!

There will always be a vocal minority, and they have their own role to play. Onward and Upward!

All I know is, I'm even more fired up about BitShares after hearing why Charles Hoskinson left (https://youtu.be/-UT3OZySRcA). I missed all of that in the early days.

Could you summarize his reason again?  I doubt he would EVER reveal the true reason he left.

You run the company... "as a referendum on [your] political philosophy".

You're a "voluntarist, a libertarian".and a "strong Austrian".

and "we're not here to prove Ludwig von Mises right or wrong", heads were a butting and one of you had to go (guess which one).

you're all the nicest people he's ever met and it was a "philosophical disagreement at it's core".

https://youtu.be/-UT3OZySRcA?t=3m40s (https://youtu.be/-UT3OZySRcA?t=3m40s)


Is that inaccurate?

[Edit : fixed the Mises quote]
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: arhag on March 25, 2015, 11:29:50 pm
"The way Dan runs that company is it's a referendum on his political philosophy."

"We're not here to prove Ludwig von Mises right or wrong, we're here to build a company. So we kind of butt heads a lot and at the end of the day one of us had to go."

"By the way, Stan Larimer and Pam are some of the nicest people I have ever met in my life."

Fixed those quotes (https://youtu.be/-UT3OZySRcA?t=3m40s) for you.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: Tuck Fheman on March 25, 2015, 11:38:57 pm
IIRC, this NDA was about the reason he was forced to leave, that it not ever be discussed. A Chinese partner of I3 made that clear here in the forum when CH was talking too much about it, but much of that discussion was retracted.

I see.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: rgcrypto on March 26, 2015, 01:40:09 am
you should thank me for opening this thread

Thank you injecting your profound wisdom into these discussions at our forum uniqlo.  I'm sure that Dan is several lifetimes more enlightened now having read your pearls of wisdom.  In fact, I hereby propose that the BitShares community officially vote to change our name from BitShares to UniquloShares.  You should run for 100 delegates, you are certain to get awarded full pay due to the immense value that you provide our community and the world around us. 

I also propose that Dan take a hiatus from any affiliation with the uniquloShares project to to go on sabbatical to enlighten his soul with the great teachings of uniqulo. 

I also propose that we destroy any posts in this forum that are not originated by uniqulo.

here here!

All in favor say aye!

Hare Uniqulo, Hare uniqulo, Rama Rama, Rama Hare, Hare Hare, Uniqulo Hare. (Singing it all day waiting for enlightment)
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: fuzzy on March 26, 2015, 03:20:11 pm
you should thank me for opening this thread

Thank you injecting your profound wisdom into these discussions at our forum uniqlo.  I'm sure that Dan is several lifetimes more enlightened now having read your pearls of wisdom.  In fact, I hereby propose that the BitShares community officially vote to change our name from BitShares to UniquloShares.  You should run for 100 delegates, you are certain to get awarded full pay due to the immense value that you provide our community and the world around us. 

I also propose that Dan take a hiatus from any affiliation with the uniquloShares project to to go on sabbatical to enlighten his soul with the great teachings of uniqulo. 

I also propose that we destroy any posts in this forum that are not originated by uniqulo.

here here!

All in favor say aye!

Hare Uniqulo, Hare uniqulo, Rama Rama, Rama Hare, Hare Hare, Uniqulo Hare. (Singing it all day waiting for enlightment)

Hey now, everyone.  Let's take a deep breath.  We all have a level of stress these days...but it is our people who will keep our network going until lift off :)

So can we be a little less harsh on the guy?  He is obviously feeling pretty down (and poor)...
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: Tuck Fheman on March 26, 2015, 10:20:06 pm
He is obviously feeling pretty down (and poor)...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X5vd8pvZ_mA/T7xEgLHMbRI/AAAAAAAAGzA/1Jok_tkZJA8/s1600/boot+stomping+a+man's+face.jpg)

Most all of us feel it. It's no longer isolated, it has spread the world over.

It's the reason why some of us get edgy at times, and in that moment, it's always easier to blame those attempting to solve the problem than confront the problem head on ourselves.

Such is life.

 :-\
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: Tuck Fheman on March 29, 2015, 01:16:54 am
Well, that escalated quickly ...

https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4/status/581671922640924672 (https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4/status/581671922640924672)
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: fuzzy on March 29, 2015, 08:32:49 am
Well, that escalated quickly ...

https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4/status/581671922640924672 (https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4/status/581671922640924672)

I'll be very interested to see if Hosk finds a way to make a better bitshares.  His post here basically tells me that he respects the work done here and it also makes me think Ethereum is not looking so hot.  Really a bit on the skeptical side of seeing a "better" bitshares being built though.  I mean we already have bitshares...and if something comes out that implements a new feature or tweaks a few things here or there...and it ends up being better, then bitshares will just adopt it too.  Just my opinions, but who knows.
Title: Re: Where is BM?hide?
Post by: liondani on March 29, 2015, 01:29:51 pm
Well, that escalated quickly ...

https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4/status/581671922640924672 (https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4/status/581671922640924672)

I'll be very interested to see if Hosk finds a way to make a better bitshares.  His post here basically tells me that he respects the work done here and it also makes me think Ethereum is not looking so hot.  Really a bit on the skeptical side of seeing a "better" bitshares being built though.  I mean we already have bitshares...and if something comes out that implements a new feature or tweaks a few things here or there...and it ends up being better, then bitshares will just adopt it too.  Just my opinions, but who knows.

I don't interpret that not as a friendly conversation about bitshares...
only a few examples

Charles Hoskinson ‏@IOHK_Charles 18h18 hours ago
@BlueMeanie4 @BjorkmanJesper and dan's not a sociopath. Just an arrogant asshole who's very driven

Charles Hoskinson ‏@IOHK_Charles 18h18 hours ago
@BlueMeanie4 @BjorkmanJesper real product; bad management, execution and marketing

Charles Hoskinson ‏@IOHK_Charles 18h18 hours ago
@BlueMeanie4 @BjorkmanJesper blue dan larimer and I started invictus together. We created bitshares

 Blue Meanie ‏@BlueMeanie4 18h18 hours ago
@IOHK_Charles @BjorkmanJesper the thing was a massive scam, a confusing and incomplete proposal, perhaps worse. #Bitshares

Charles Hoskinson ‏@IOHK_Charles 18h18 hours ago
@BlueMeanie4 @BjorkmanJesper @prestonjbyrne Preston has some valid points but remember I wasnt there when angelshares happened.

Blue Meanie ‏@BlueMeanie4 18h18 hours ago
@IOHK_Charles @BjorkmanJesper @prestonjbyrne no idea what that is. dont care. the thing was a joke from the start.

Charles Hoskinson ‏@IOHK_Charles 18h18 hours ago
@BlueMeanie4 @BjorkmanJesper @prestonjbyrne third I'll eventually get around to releasing a better bitshares after my company is settled in   (Ha, ha, ha .... which one is the arrogant asshole ??????)