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Quote from: roadkill on October 06, 2014, 02:12:38 pmYou can also monitor donations here: http://www1.agsexplorer.com/
You can also monitor donations here: http://www1.agsexplorer.com/
Your logic is like, after snapshot, PTS price will go down to zero.
5,000,000 per day for 60 days? I imagine it will run out of steam about 3/4 of the way through and that is when the good deals may happen... maybe.It seems getting on board for the PTS sale this Friday might be a smarter move.... maybe?
Edit 1: Right now around 17.4BTC donated today, not that much IMO.
Do we have a formula to figure out how many notes per AGS we would receive if we donated to the original AGS fund?Thanks!
Would it not be sensible to wait until the very end of the day to jump in too?..
Quote from: Chuckone on October 06, 2014, 12:08:15 pmEdit 1: Right now around 17.4BTC donated today, not that much IMO.I'd like to disagree, that's more than AGS got on many days (in BTC, although that has tanked) and the day is only halfway through.
Tell me if I´m wrong...When buying notes on the presale... you don´t know at what price you´re doing your purchase... until the end of the day...is this right?If is right... in my case... I don´t want to get into something with so low information about price...
Quote from: bobohuy on October 06, 2014, 09:23:22 amHow do we know how many BTC has been used so far to buy Notes per day? is there a website like AGSexplorer ?Yeah, it's called blockchain.info https://blockchain.info/address/37X8DHpfiimB7PU5y35rfBcg5Vxj2R6umL
How do we know how many BTC has been used so far to buy Notes per day? is there a website like AGSexplorer ?
Quote from: bitmeat on October 06, 2014, 03:41:42 amYup anyone could release a StealAGSCoin DAC. I am afraid too for this possibility !I hope they release a "tool" that resolves threats like that before we are witnessing StealAGSCoin victims....
Yup anyone could release a StealAGSCoin DAC.
So then the question is, do you make more profit selling now than after the plunge, with ample opportunity to get the same Notes for much much cheaper? I think so. I could be wrong, but I guess we'll find out.If there are more people thinking like me, I expect the price to plunge pre-snapshot, and then AGAIN post-snapshot... I think it's probable that 1 PTS now > 1 PTS + 298.647044 Notes after the snapshot.
Quote from: 天籁 on October 06, 2014, 05:30:24 am$1 of PTS price drop after snapshot = 255.993374 NotesI've been trying to make sense of this, but am unable.The total number of PTS I took from CoinMarketCap: 1,757,928. (It's already a little different than when I calculated before)450,000,000 Notes are distributed to PTS holders.450,000,000 / 1,757,928 = 255.98318 Notes per PTS
$1 of PTS price drop after snapshot = 255.993374 Notes
If my calculations are correct, this pre-sale should tank the price of PTS... just sold everything.1 PTS = 255.993374 NotesCurrent price of PTS: 0.01176360 BTCCurrent price of BTC: $300$1 worth of PTS = 71.307346 NotesTherefore, each day between now and the snapshot, there needs to be over $70k in BTC donations to justify holding PTS rather than selling it for BTC and purchasing via presale.5,000,000 Notes / $70,126.2272 = 71.3Someone tell me I'm wrong?
no you are not, but the PTS snapshot will and in 4 days.
If my calculations are correct, this pre-sale should tank the price of PTS... just sold everything.1 PTS = 255.993374 Notes$1 worth of PTS = 71.307346 NotesTherefore, each day between now and the snapshot, there needs to be over $70k in BTC donations to justify holding PTS rather than selling it for BTC and purchasing via presale.5,000,000 Notes / $70,126.2272 = 71.3Someone tell me I'm wrong?
Why not also take a snapshot of say bitcoin and give them 5% of the notes - it'd be like buying your customers by enticing them with a small amount of coins.. enough to get them to learn how bitshares works.
The people that sent btc before the official start will be counted in the first pool. No need to panic (:
I think it's better if @cob adds a warning message, say "Do not sent BTC from exchanges or web wallet which does not support private key export (e.g. Coinbase)" This will reduce a lot of confuse and drudgery work.
We should absolutely demand that new DACs do NOT require our private keys, but instead require a signature.That solves the problem of "sent from Coinbase" as well. Duh!Just have genesis claim it based on signature. Sign "Notes" with the private key for the key in the genesis block.
Quote from: cass on October 05, 2014, 11:12:52 pmcheck out FAQ it is mentioned there …QuoteMake sure you send your bitcoins from your own personal wallet which you control the private key. If you send from an exchange’s wallet, at launch, the issuer of Notes will think the exchange bought Notes, not you. Make sure you keep your wallet secure and well backed up too! Do not lose your wallet or you will lose your Notes. This is a blockchain, there are no central authorities to go to to retrieve lost funds. plus coinbase (ppl often ignore faqs. That's why I ask to put warnings on the main page)
check out FAQ it is mentioned there …QuoteMake sure you send your bitcoins from your own personal wallet which you control the private key. If you send from an exchange’s wallet, at launch, the issuer of Notes will think the exchange bought Notes, not you. Make sure you keep your wallet secure and well backed up too! Do not lose your wallet or you will lose your Notes. This is a blockchain, there are no central authorities to go to to retrieve lost funds.
Make sure you send your bitcoins from your own personal wallet which you control the private key. If you send from an exchange’s wallet, at launch, the issuer of Notes will think the exchange bought Notes, not you. Make sure you keep your wallet secure and well backed up too! Do not lose your wallet or you will lose your Notes. This is a blockchain, there are no central authorities to go to to retrieve lost funds.
Surprise!http://www.bitsharesmusicfoundation.org/(Did somebody tell about it already?)