I am formally requesting a transparent consensus amongst the community here before I do anything. Good? Bad?Wait for the next release of BitShares before attempting to integrate it anywhere! .. seriously
I am formally requesting a transparent consensus amongst the community here before I do anything. Good? Bad?Wait for the next release of BitShares before attempting to integrate it anywhere! .. seriously
DPOS 2.0 and blockchain-HR ability better be at the top of their list. Mark my words, this company will fail hard (thanx, voter apathy) if the basic accountability is not required. Dan and Stan are not business people, at all. I would have fired them and their puppies 2 months ago.
So besides the reliable nodes, and the 2 or 3 coders that are actually coding right now (Vikram is a GOD and I will make SURE him and his top 2 choices get paid properly if it ever comes to that), what are the other 70+ paid Delegates doing with our money today? Tomorrow? Friday?
DPOS 2.0 and blockchain-HR ability better be at the top of their list. Mark my words, this company will fail hard (thanx, voter apathy) if the basic accountability is not required. Dan and Stan are not business people, at all. I would have fired them and their puppies 2 months ago.
I'm not going to bring anyone to this blockchain if they don't code in what a successful company needs, especially a globally distributed one.
Dan Larimer's (enough hiding behind your childish name) "big" announcements, his new PR expert, his "business contacts", his secretive (instead of transparent) nature, his lack of response to any of our demands, his amazing new website designer and seo/sep expert, his "17,000" lines of mystery code, his "summer surprise" etc...... My patience is wearing thin.
You said "1st of June" Dan Larimer.. Our money is where your mouth is.
DPOS 2.0 and blockchain-HR ability better be at the top of their list. Mark my words, this company will fail hard (thanx, voter apathy) if the basic accountability is not required. Dan and Stan are not business people, at all. I would have fired them and their puppies 2 months ago.Just so we're clear: Are you suggesting Dan and Stan should have been fired or two of the people they hired?
DPOS 2.0 and blockchain-HR ability better be at the top of their list. Mark my words, this company will fail hard (thanx, voter apathy) if the basic accountability is not required. Dan and Stan are not business people, at all. I would have fired them and their puppies 2 months ago.Just so we're clear: Are you suggesting Dan and Stan should have been fired or two of the people they hired?
We don't need to pay puppy people or those who blow hot air up the bag(oops I mean share)holders asses.
Vikram is a GOD and he knows it. I'll protect him and his chosen few if it ever comes down to that.
I think you may be judging too much by github. Vikram handles the releases of new versions of bitshares, so it will look like he is doing an inordinate amount of coding vs the other devs.
I can agree with you on Stan with some points, as he was elected so that he could keep Dan "sane". Its hard to quantify what contributions he brings to bts
17,000 of code != hot air. Plus there will be ample documentation coming out that will help you with the business ventures your looking at doing.
We don't need to pay puppy people or those who blow hot air up the bag(oops I mean share)holders asses.+5%
If you saw what brian+cass+marketing bros were up to I think you'd be ok with waiting another month or so before a "big" push. I hate vague promises of "something big is coming", but actually...
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We will quickly start loosing our launch benefit window for marketing by the end of Sept IMO. I hope whatever they have cooking is VERY substantial. Enough to overcome this lost opportunity.
Relax and enjoy the chance to spend one more paycheck at these prices. ;)
The window they plan to open is to a whole new world of users who have never even heard of coinmarketcap.(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20050809073106/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/9/94/Crew_observes_the_american_revolution.jpg/180px-Crew_observes_the_american_revolution.jpg)
This, in turn, will place BTSX at #2 on coinmarketcap and constitute the real cryptogeek "launch benefit window" you are talking about."Roads? Where we're going they don't need roads!"
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-10/enhanced/webdr03/28/21/anigif_enhanced-buzz-19236-1383009679-5.gif)
doing things for the sake of doing things won't help. please calm down Ken and let BM & Co do their thing.This.
DPOS 2.0 and blockchain-HR ability better be at the top of their list. Mark my words, this company will fail hard (thanx, voter apathy) if the basic accountability is not required. Dan and Stan are not business people, at all. I would have fired them and their puppies 2 months ago.Just so we're clear: Are you suggesting Dan and Stan should have been fired or two of the people they hired?
We don't need to pay puppy people or those who blow hot air up the bag(oops I mean share)holders asses.
Vikram is a GOD and he knows it. I'll protect him and his chosen few if it ever comes down to that.
We don't need to pay puppy people or those who blow hot air up the bag(oops I mean share)holders asses.+5%
hot air like this??If you saw what brian+cass+marketing bros were up to I think you'd be ok with waiting another month or so before a "big" push. I hate vague promises of "something big is coming", but actually...
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We will quickly start loosing our launch benefit window for marketing by the end of Sept IMO. I hope whatever they have cooking is VERY substantial. Enough to overcome this lost opportunity.
Relax and enjoy the chance to spend one more paycheck at these prices. ;)
The window they plan to open is to a whole new world of users who have never even heard of coinmarketcap.(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20050809073106/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/9/94/Crew_observes_the_american_revolution.jpg/180px-Crew_observes_the_american_revolution.jpg)
This, in turn, will place BTSX at #2 on coinmarketcap and constitute the real cryptogeek "launch benefit window" you are talking about."Roads? Where we're going they don't need roads!"
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-10/enhanced/webdr03/28/21/anigif_enhanced-buzz-19236-1383009679-5.gif)
The Thrill of Victory and the Agony of Defeat!(http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/BB/DA27309BC9208060BBDCF1C41E6334.jpg)A famous line from the old ABC Wide World of Sports intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2AZH4FeGsc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2AZH4FeGsc)The risks and rewards of BitShares are yours to keep!We appreciate the good will and patience of all those who joined us on the ground floor of BitShares last year.
(Those without good will and patience didn't stay long.)
With all the attention we have been getting lately, there are a lot more getting in on what is now the second floor.
(This is still a very good place to get on when the top of the skyscraper under construction reaches beyond the clouds.)
Many understand that they are joining a Great Experiment.
And they are prepared to accept the certain risks that come with the potential rewards.
Others come expecting easy rewards where somebody else does the work and takes the risks for them.Those things never go together.So this *GENERAL WARNING* is placed here as a caution to all:
BitShares is an industry under development.
You have a chance to participate in that development.
Its products are highly experimental, immature, and full of bugs.
They have been made available so early adopters can help test them.
They are likely to break on you at the worst possible time.
You should not trust them.
You should double check everything they do.
You should experiment with very small amounts before doing anything big.
You should not do anything big.
You should realize that what worked yesterday should be double-checked today.
We could wait until it is perfect before letting you participate.
But by then the rewards you might get would be reduced by as much as the risks.
That's why the disclaimer you accepted before you could first launch the software warned that the software comes with no guarantees to be good for anything at all.You did read that didn't you?
:)
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=6277.msg83830#msg83830 (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=6277.msg83830#msg83830)
It bluntly disclaims any warranty, and asserts this explicitly:Quote4.1. there is a risk of losing digital tokens when using products provided by this Service and that neither BitShares™,
its community of independent developers, nor DSL have any responsibility to you for any such loss;BitShares is a decentralized community working to build a new ecosystem for all to enjoy.
It is supported by donations and volunteers only.
It has no profits with which to make guarantees.
It has no way to assume your risks.
It cannot guarantee a completely safe playground.
It cannot guarantee you won't skin your knee.
It cannot guarantee any form of safety at all.
Don't climb any higher than you are prepared to fall.
We are all explorers in a brave new frontier.
And exploration is not for the faint of heart.
:)
We dont need you Ken. Please calm down or find yourself another community.
We dont need you Ken. Please calm down or find yourself another community.
We dont need you Ken. Please calm down or find yourself another community.
Kencode is an extremely valuable member of this community. His place is here with us, the same as everyone else.
So everybody please just lean your chair back, kick your feet up and spark up a phattyLove you Jesus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMbAANfUJhI#t=14s
you ain't got no problem Ken, we're on the mofo, Dan is The Wolf.
But some posts here seem kind of ungrateful. I'm sure everyone works as hard as then can. We don't need that pressure now. What we all need is for the job that was assigned to early June to be delivered, that's all.
Just remember why we're all here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ
i don't get the SWIFT number!i would like to know that too! +5%
how can you get one? for what is it usable?
How i understand it, you need a company etc. to get one and then what? Could we connect directly to the bank system without any license? I don't think so, or is here a way i don't know?
We dont need you Ken. Please calm down or find yourself another community.
Banks use it to transfer between different banks in different countries, etc.
If SWIFT will transmit our Public Keys, then every financial institution in their network can sell our products.
From what I understand so far, if banks can sell bitGOLD (for example) then they act as the kyc/aml onramp, not us.
Before you guys attack me on this and fearmonger, rest assured I have not developed a Business Plan on this yet, I have our privacy and decentralization in the forefront of my heart and I am asking if this is even something that you would like me to pursue after v1.0 and DPOS 2.0.
Yeah, Ken, you're a pit bull and obviously a better marketer and boss (looking for that accountability) than Dan is, but Dan is the talent, and you and I are nothing without the product that Dan and Toast and Vik and crew make for us. I know that it feels like you have been patient, but you need to look at what is instead of what you expect.+5%
I believe that Dan means well, and that he has the tools and team to accomplish his dream.
Believe me, he wants the product to be solid and flexible at the same time.
He is working magic.
He is creating a robot that enforces our constitution. It is not easy.
I'm super pumped too, but I ain't the tough love type. I'd give the talent some space, and realize that you have no control over this current creative process. He is in a period of inspiration, don't kill his buzz.
He is Dock Ellis pitching a perfect game on LSD and you are the rookie telling him that he has a "no no" going:
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--ZpmNjePY--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/17mqou2x4anobjpg.jpg)
One bobbled ball, and we wind up with a bug that will crash the share price faster than you can say "you're fired"
Take a chill pill, and don't jinx the talent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxen7thd5BU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgOqHLeKGH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3ZUPR1mPeQ
BitShares is bigger than all of us, Dan included, and he would be the first person to admit it.
BitShares is bigger than all of us, Dan included, and he would be the first person to admit it.
I'm not sure if dividing the community like this is such a good idea.
Chill people.
(http://i.imgur.com/Q0PwRuX.jpg)
Banks use it to transfer between different banks in different countries, etc.
If SWIFT will transmit our Public Keys, then every financial institution in their network can sell our products.
From what I understand so far, if banks can sell bitGOLD (for example) then they act as the kyc/aml onramp, not us.
Before you guys attack me on this and fearmonger, rest assured I have not developed a Business Plan on this yet, I have our privacy and decentralization in the forefront of my heart and I am asking if this is even something that you would like me to pursue after v1.0 and DPOS 2.0.
I'd say pursue it if you can make money with it FOR YOURSELF. Then you don't have to ask anyone for permission.+5% spot-on