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Title: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: hpenvy on December 03, 2014, 07:14:03 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BV55IrZi7g

bitUSD price discovery made sense.
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: CLains on December 03, 2014, 09:22:14 am
14000 views on a video like this. BM is a genius at making difficult subjects easily comprehensible. That's really what drew me in originally.
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: cass on December 03, 2014, 11:30:35 am
14000 views on a video like this. BM is a genius at making difficult subjects easily comprehensible. That's really what drew me in originally.

I know, right?

I must have watched his Bob vs. Alice BitUSDSmackdown at least 30 times.

So probably only 400 individuals actually saw this :)

 :o^^
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: mike623317 on December 03, 2014, 04:12:23 pm

Although i think the video is OK, everyone i speak to about it seems to think its rather dry and dull and they wont watch it all the way through. I think people want a more glossy, shorter, simple to understand version.

Just my 2 cents from what im seeing.
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: mf-tzo on December 03, 2014, 04:14:16 pm
That video was great back then but I agree with mike.. An updated simpler version with numerical examples is a must at some point.
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: toast on December 03, 2014, 04:41:18 pm
Plus the mechanic is different now and relies heavily on price feeds which are not mentioned.

But yeah, this is the video that got me into BTS.
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: mike623317 on December 03, 2014, 05:54:18 pm
Plus the mechanic is different now and relies heavily on price feeds which are not mentioned.

But yeah, this is the video that got me into BTS.

I'm not a techie, but it seems to me there a bit of a divide between the developer types and the masses. I'm trying to spread the word of BitShares, but everyone i speak with want quick summary of what it is. If you cant explain it in a 30 seconds peoples eyes glaze over.

I just think we need to series of videos - ranging from a 30 second take away to a much longer description.
Also, a tips in the bitshares app would be nice - like a ? next to things that give a sentence explanation. Several people have said that they downloaded it, but arn't sure how it works.

I'm not trying to be critical, just trying to be honest because i really want this to work.

Thanks
Michael
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: hpenvy on December 03, 2014, 07:21:49 pm
Plus the mechanic is different now and relies heavily on price feeds which are not mentioned.

But yeah, this is the video that got me into BTS.

I'm not a techie, but it seems to me there a bit of a divide between the developer types and the masses. I'm trying to spread the word of BitShares, but everyone i speak with want quick summary of what it is. If you cant explain it in a 30 seconds peoples eyes glaze over.

I just think we need to series of videos - ranging from a 30 second take away to a much longer description.
Also, a tips in the bitshares app would be nice - like a ? next to things that give a sentence explanation. Several people have said that they downloaded it, but arn't sure how it works.

I'm not trying to be critical, just trying to be honest because i really want this to work.

Thanks
Michael

I would take whatever chunk of the marketing budget it took to do exactly what you described. 30-60 second videos describing the major concepts and then glue videos to tie the concepts together.
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: xeroc on December 03, 2014, 07:44:56 pm
IIRC brian et al. Have 9 videos in the pipeline
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: Empirical1.1 on December 03, 2014, 07:57:26 pm
Plus the mechanic is different now and relies heavily on price feeds which are not mentioned.

But yeah, this is the video that got me into BTS.

I'm not a techie, but it seems to me there a bit of a divide between the developer types and the masses. I'm trying to spread the word of BitShares, but everyone i speak with want quick summary of what it is. If you cant explain it in a 30 seconds peoples eyes glaze over.

I just think we need to series of videos - ranging from a 30 second take away to a much longer description.
Also, a tips in the bitshares app would be nice - like a ? next to things that give a sentence explanation. Several people have said that they downloaded it, but arn't sure how it works.

I'm not trying to be critical, just trying to be honest because i really want this to work.

Thanks
Michael

I would take whatever chunk of the marketing budget it took to do exactly what you described. 30-60 second videos describing the major concepts and then glue videos to tie the concepts together.

Yeah short punchy 30-60 seconds are best. A marketing/explanatory video that's longer than 5 minutes is too long >95% of the time imo.

IIRC brian et al. Have 9 videos in the pipeline

 +5% Great
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: hpenvy on December 03, 2014, 08:20:11 pm
IIRC brian et al. Have 9 videos in the pipeline

Is there a post that outlines anything about the length, topics, eta? I remember reading something about a handful of videos being created, but don't recall any details. I know Bitmarket is working on a bitUSD item.
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: xeroc on December 03, 2014, 08:35:56 pm
I just know (read: have read somewhere) .. that brian is working on videos .. the number "9" might be arbitrary :-| .. maybe @MktDirector can shad some light
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: Stan on December 03, 2014, 09:22:45 pm
IIRC brian et al. Have 9 videos in the pipeline

Is there a post that outlines anything about the length, topics, eta? I remember reading something about a handful of videos being created, but don't recall any details. I know Bitmarket is working on a bitUSD item.

Max Wright's smiling Aussie face will soon be everywhere.
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: Ander on December 03, 2014, 09:36:45 pm
If you want to do a technical video, I would recommend that you emulate the format of things such as MinutePhysics or CGPGrey.

Its basically a technical video with pictures and some humor, and it is presented to you at 100 miles an hour, talking quickly and moving on to the next idea quickly.


This might seem absurd, because it is presented to the viewer WAY too fast for them to actually understand or internalize anything! But it makes the video exciting and fun, rather than boring.  The result is that someone who is less interested will be able to actually watch the video through once, instead of turning it off, while someone who is very interested will just watch it over and over until they feel they understand things. 

I wish we had bitshares related videos like this.
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: Empirical1.1 on December 04, 2014, 02:25:41 am
This can be better but it's a decent example of selling the basics & advantages of decentralisation to mainstream in under 3 minutes.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dYICruxUkNI

(A lot of her dialogue is equally applicable to BitShares.)
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: hpenvy on December 04, 2014, 02:45:00 am
I'd want 20 or so < 60 seconds videos.
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: xeroc on December 04, 2014, 07:55:31 am
If you want to do a technical video, I would recommend that you emulate the format of things such as MinutePhysics or CGPGrey.
MinutePhysics is a VERY good example .. I really like them!
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: onceuponatime on December 04, 2014, 08:23:02 am
IIRC brian et al. Have 9 videos in the pipeline

Is there a post that outlines anything about the length, topics, eta? I remember reading something about a handful of videos being created, but don't recall any details. I know Bitmarket is working on a bitUSD item.

Max Wright's smiling Aussie face will soon be everywhere.

He better hurry because we've been scooped!!!!

http://vimeo.com/113426009
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: xeroc on December 04, 2014, 08:34:47 am
He better hurry because we've been scooped!!!!

http://vimeo.com/113426009
:o

Dang ... Bitcoin has a CEO ... BitGold has a CEO ...
we lack a f**** CEO!!!!  8)
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: CLains on December 04, 2014, 12:51:53 pm
IIRC brian et al. Have 9 videos in the pipeline

Is there a post that outlines anything about the length, topics, eta? I remember reading something about a handful of videos being created, but don't recall any details. I know Bitmarket is working on a bitUSD item.

Max Wright's smiling Aussie face will soon be everywhere.

He better hurry because we've been scooped!!!!

http://vimeo.com/113426009

bitReserve is to bitShares what Western Union is to Bitcoin

/reddit thread
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: mike623317 on December 05, 2014, 12:20:34 am

[/quote]
He better hurry because we've been scooped!!!!
http://vimeo.com/113426009
[/quote]

@bytemaster - this is the type of video we need to show the advantages and ease of use of Bitshares. It shows how easy it is to use and makes people want to use it.

Please can we get this sort of quality videos produced for our marketing push.
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: speedy on December 05, 2014, 12:38:27 am
This video is fantastic in terms of marketing.

Btw checkout the CEO's career. Apparently he owes unpaid taxes, and has filed for bankruptcy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halsey_Minor

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/05/29/cnet-co-founder-halsey-minor-files-for-personal-bankruptcy/

And he wants to hold other people's money. :o
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: hpenvy on December 05, 2014, 12:42:30 am
I'm also a big fan of the 1 min videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XaY_KIsouTY

These make it real easy to open the conversation, I've already seen success with it.   10-15 short videos would make me happy.  :)
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: mike623317 on December 05, 2014, 12:45:50 am
Btw checkout the CEO's career. Apparently he owes unpaid taxes, and has filed for bankruptcy. And he wants to hold other people's money.

Thats Amazing, what a jerk. Thanks for digging that up.

I do think this is the sort of video we need though. It oozes easy of use and explains the concept quickly.

Isnt there some smart youtuber out there that can come up with this soft of thing for us. I'm sure everyone here would chip in a couple of dollars to get this sort of thing out there. I wonder if the marketers are already on it though ....
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: mike623317 on December 05, 2014, 12:46:46 am
Btw checkout the CEO's career. Apparently he owes unpaid taxes, and has filed for bankruptcy. And he wants to hold other people's money.

Thats Amazing, what a jerk. Thanks for digging that up.

I do think this is the sort of video we need though. It oozes easy of use and explains the concept quickly.

Isnt there some smart youtuber out there that can come up with this soft of thing for us. I'm sure everyone here would chip in a couple of dollars to get this sort of thing out there. I wonder if the marketers are already on it though ....
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: speedy on December 05, 2014, 01:28:46 am
I think calling someone a jerk for having some financial difficulties is a bit harsh. He seems like a nice guy in the video - but he's competing with us ;)
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: toast on December 05, 2014, 01:35:22 am
It doesn't have to be personal or accusatory - just point out that, using their system, you are forced to trust him whether you think he is trustworthy or not.
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: onceuponatime on December 05, 2014, 01:58:49 am
I think calling someone a jerk for having some financial difficulties is a bit harsh. He seems like a nice guy in the video - but he's competing with us ;)

He has left a very long trail of hostile litigation with people he has done business with.

"He seems like a nice guy in the video" may be a trifle naive.
Title: Re: Great Bitshares Video, Hope to See an Update
Post by: mike623317 on December 05, 2014, 02:26:14 am
I think calling someone a jerk for having some financial difficulties is a bit harsh. He seems like a nice guy in the video - but he's competing with us ;)

Agreed, i'll walk that back.

They have a smart website and a good video and we need to emulate that.