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http://bitcoin42.com/blog/can-you-believe-its-almost-here/

We are busy bee's. Website was down for a few days which caused confusion. We'll ramp up a complete new page just for this baby. There will be four models. "Simplicity" (small one way), "Complexity" (small two way), "Visibility"(large one way), "Capacity" (large two way).

Simplicity will be ready sooner than later. No worries. ;)

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http://bitcoin42.com/blog/can-you-believe-its-almost-here/

Sorry. Website was down. Reposted the status.

We are still working on it. We want to ship it as flawless as we can. We're planing on a leasing contract as well, to make entry level even lower.

It's going to be the bomb!

Best,
Alec

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General Discussion / Re: bitUSD ATM/Kiosk
« on: July 31, 2015, 10:16:59 am »
Hi all,

I have been totally away from this board. I can confirm all what Devlux has been going on here. Check out some teaser of how the thing looks like in its raw form.

http://bitcoin42.com/blog/teaser-low-cost-lightweight-atm-coming-soon/

Enjoy!

;)

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We got some news for you guys...

check this out:

http://bitcoin42.com/blog/teaser-low-cost-lightweight-atm-coming-soon/

;)

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General Discussion / Re: gemspace -- SEC compliant platform
« on: June 06, 2015, 07:29:49 pm »
Waiting for the update  8)
Hi Fuzzy, Clayop and everyone else reading this.

We experienced a bunch of difficulties and delays. We are restructuring our team, and we hope this will bring us forward.

I will keep you in the loop, as soon we make some serious progress. There is at this point no sense blubbering around details.

Best regards,
Alec

Are these difficulties BitShares related? Maybe we can be of assistance?!
Taulant from Moonstone offered his help, but there seemed to be a communication issue. We've been in contact with Daniel and co too, but they seem to be pretty overloaded as well.

But please feel free to get in contact with our magical code genie to find out how to help.  devlux@gemspace.net   (if he does not respond after 12h send the email again, because he most likely didn't get it in that case.)

It would be in fact very useful if we could get a a newer version built pre release. It should not face an issue since an NDA has been signed between Invictus Innovation and Gemspace.

Best,
Alec

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General Discussion / Re: gemspace -- SEC compliant platform
« on: June 06, 2015, 06:26:17 pm »
Waiting for the update  8)
Hi Fuzzy, Clayop and everyone else reading this.

We experienced a bunch of difficulties and delays. We are restructuring our team, and we hope this will bring us forward.

I will keep you in the loop, as soon we make some serious progress. There is at this point no sense blubbering around details.

Best regards,
Alec

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General Discussion / Re: gemspace -- SEC compliant platform
« on: May 29, 2015, 10:15:43 pm »
any progress?
Hi,

Sorry everyone that our Gemspace Mumble hangout failed today due to connection issues. Anyhow, we'll be present next week.

Nevertheless, I would like to at least give a short status update.

Gemspace.net, the community driven platform for company presentations and initial evaluation will be online and ready for registration by end of next week.

Gemspace.io, the SEC database tied to decentralized Blockchain trading platform will follow soon after. This is the most challenging part to bring compliance, regulation and blockchain tech all together. We experience some issues with Bitshares, but Taulant showed up from Bitsapphier akf Moonstone and we had a first meet and greet. We found common grounds on at least one topic. We hope that this together with the upcoming Bts release will flatten out the pathways for Bitshares integration and a timely release.

Stay tuned and latest until next Friday.

Best,
Alec

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I'm not a big fan of crypto ATMs.  It's legacy technology for a 1950s economy.  I imagine a better solution would be something like an Uber for money.  Alice travels to a foreign country and needs to exchange bitgold for local currency.  She pulls up the Uber for money app on her phone and finds someone at the airport who is willing to do this exchange.  The future will probably look more like that IMO.

I also think crypto ATMs are way overrated. That will not be where mass adoption comes from. But if ATMs provide certain local areas with an easier way to get started, particularly for users who do not fully trust/understand how to use their own phones and computers for this, then that's great. I wouldn't subsidize development of these ATMs, but I support the concept.
ATMs have the advantage to give a secure, private, convenient and reliable, 24/7 option. Obviously it's not going to be THE thing which will bring mass adoption, but who knows?  But you guys are also forgetting that a huge amount of the world is not connected to the internet. 40% would be my guess. This is a market we are also targeting. That's why SMS low tech capability is essential for this operates, even if there ate some people who think in 5-10 years everyone will have smart phones.

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I'd like to see an even lower cost solution to start off with, where..

John Doe sits at a flea market with some bitShares signage and uses his Android phone to buy and sell Bitshares.

But the interface is so easy to use for both the customer as well as the seller, it makes it easy to do the transaction.

This way when John's done, and closes shop. All he has to do is travel to the nearest Bitcoin ATM or Bitshares ATM to feed that money back in, so he has more crypto on hand to replenish his Bitshares for the following sales day.

This way you don't need to invest in a machine to be "self serve" for people to obtain Bitshares.  This would be more of a full serve situation.

Also imagine tipping a Pizza delivery driver.  University student in his early 20's shows up.  You offer him $5 tip in cash, or $10 in Bitshares. He knows what Bitshares is, and happily chooses that instead.

I know, everybody is going to say BitUSD not Bitshares.  Ok, I still haven't bought any BitUSD until v1.0 comes out, so I still think in terms of BTS :P
There was actually an App for that for Bitcoin, which does exactly that. Can't find it anymore thought. Mycelium wallet has a feature like that too though. In the end, all you need is a mobile wallet really.

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It's core feature will be conversion of MPA to fiat and vice versa.
That's what I was hoping to hear. That's absolutely great.

Just to make sure I understand it correctly:
Case 1: pay-in
I insert some fiat banknotes into the ATM, enter my TITAN name and the machine sends MPA funds to my BitShares account (which I'll immediately see in my BitShares wallet on my mobile phone).
Case 2: pay-out
The ATM displays its TITAN name and I send some MPA funds to this name (using BitShares wallet on my mobile phone) and the machine pays out fiat banknotes in return.

Is this one of the possible workflows of your ATMs?
Exactly. The current models we operate do it that way, just a slightly different flow.

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wow would this be the first non-bitcoin ATM? it almost sounds too good to be true!
Actually we are operating since over a year a Multicoin ATM. It currently supports Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dogecoin and Blackcoin.

Genesis Coin Ldt offers these machines, we are resellers and we will collaborate with them, so they can add the Bts function into their models  as well. ;)

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Sounds awesome!! Looking forward to everyone being creative in this thread to make the most of this project. :)

My only immediate question is, how will you motivate individuals to buy these and assemble them all over the world?
They can make profits with conversion fees, but also via the referral system bitshares announced to implement. The machines could also be configured to do more than instant exchange, and give therefore even more incentives. For example a Point of Sale system could be implemented.

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What will this ATM offer to a customer?
Will I be able to convert fiat to its bit-asset equivalent?
What do you suggest the ATM should offer to a customer? It's core feature will be conversion of MPA to fiat and vice versa.

This thread is a kind of "think tank", so please express your imagination here. :)

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Hey,

I've requested a business associate of mine to take a look at this.
He supplies my start-up with a steady source of Bitcoin and is looking to diversify into ATM's.
He is a biz grad from a top tier college in America and has been working along with my team towards tapping opportunities within the emerging crypto-sphere. He is currently in Chicago and has told me he will look into this once he's back, which should be around Tuesday.



P.s - I personally don't believe ATM's alone would bring in mass adaption of bitshares, but yes - it would be a factor.
Regards

ATMs are only one channel to get fiat into crypto, and I strongly believe that if Bitshares has several funnels to bring in the customers, either KYC compliant or not, things will be great. Even with just something like OTC trades website like localbitcoins (which someone could name localbitshares) dedicated to Bitshares and bitAssets, that's would be a very nice start.
It's a good idea to have something like localbitshares. with BitHalos double deposit escrow we could give people confidence to do OTC trades, without having to rely on a central platform and avoid regulatory burdens. However, that this will become bts compatible will take time.

But regarding the need of ATMs, we believe they are vital to on ramp the unbanked. There is a extremely huge amount of people in the world with no access to financial services, or if they have, they pay outrages fees, because the current system does not favor low income groups. That's why the importance to keep it low cost, so we can help the people who need it the most. We can literally save life's with this tech. I can elaborate on this an other time.
Double deposit escrow doesnt make much sense for localbitshares for either buyer or seller.

Op_checktimeverify may be used for trustless approach i think this doesnt hold collateral.
Can you give a reason why double deposit escrow would not make much sense in your opinion?

However it's actually off topic.

Does anyone here got ideas on features they would like to see in this atm integrated?

Please feel free to brainstorm. :)

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Hey,

I've requested a business associate of mine to take a look at this.
He supplies my start-up with a steady source of Bitcoin and is looking to diversify into ATM's.
He is a biz grad from a top tier college in America and has been working along with my team towards tapping opportunities within the emerging crypto-sphere. He is currently in Chicago and has told me he will look into this once he's back, which should be around Tuesday.



P.s - I personally don't believe ATM's alone would bring in mass adaption of bitshares, but yes - it would be a factor.
Regards
Hi,
Thanks for this. We are going to crowd fund on www.gemspace.net soon, so stay tuned. :)

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