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Quote from: NewMine on May 07, 2015, 02:44:48 amQuote from: fuzzy on May 07, 2015, 02:24:41 amQuote from: julian1 on May 06, 2015, 11:14:54 pmQuote from: Volker on May 06, 2015, 09:09:39 pmThere may be a fundamental mismatch in the product and the customers who are likely to use BitShares. Cryptocurrency users are risk-taking technophiles. But the USD, EUR, CNY, GLD are all "old man" investments. Getting into the BitShares system in order to store my USD as a bitshares-based CFD and getting a 1-3% yield is not something that's interesting.The old, conservative hard-money guys like Peter Schiff or Jim Rogers who like gold are not coming anywhere near something like BitShares. They don't even trust bitcoin. They would trust bitSILVER even less.Honestly, I'd be far more interested in peer to peer lending on BitShares at usurious rates. Or trading exotic assets like leveraged Chinese tech stocks. I don't have access to those markets and they are thrilling. bitUSD isn't thrilling or lucrative to me. It looks good on paper, but how many of us actually want to hold bitUSD. Obviously not that many, given its market cap. We don't want to tackle dark-markets because that would create legal exposure for delegates. We don't want to do stocks, because then we'd be exposed to securities laws. We don't want to do gambling products, because of how we're told Chinese regulators would react. We're trying to change branding from DAC to decentralized Co-op to further distinguish our intent. There's an issue here that's not being correctly addressed.If someone can mine Silver and Gold to their doorstep instead of bitcoin, that might change. Not positive though. This is a very interesting thread.Are you saying POW mining will bring in users?Yeh...at least until Bitcoin dies from its inability to govern/fund itself.
Quote from: fuzzy on May 07, 2015, 02:24:41 amQuote from: julian1 on May 06, 2015, 11:14:54 pmQuote from: Volker on May 06, 2015, 09:09:39 pmThere may be a fundamental mismatch in the product and the customers who are likely to use BitShares. Cryptocurrency users are risk-taking technophiles. But the USD, EUR, CNY, GLD are all "old man" investments. Getting into the BitShares system in order to store my USD as a bitshares-based CFD and getting a 1-3% yield is not something that's interesting.The old, conservative hard-money guys like Peter Schiff or Jim Rogers who like gold are not coming anywhere near something like BitShares. They don't even trust bitcoin. They would trust bitSILVER even less.Honestly, I'd be far more interested in peer to peer lending on BitShares at usurious rates. Or trading exotic assets like leveraged Chinese tech stocks. I don't have access to those markets and they are thrilling. bitUSD isn't thrilling or lucrative to me. It looks good on paper, but how many of us actually want to hold bitUSD. Obviously not that many, given its market cap. We don't want to tackle dark-markets because that would create legal exposure for delegates. We don't want to do stocks, because then we'd be exposed to securities laws. We don't want to do gambling products, because of how we're told Chinese regulators would react. We're trying to change branding from DAC to decentralized Co-op to further distinguish our intent. There's an issue here that's not being correctly addressed.If someone can mine Silver and Gold to their doorstep instead of bitcoin, that might change. Not positive though. This is a very interesting thread.Are you saying POW mining will bring in users?
Quote from: julian1 on May 06, 2015, 11:14:54 pmQuote from: Volker on May 06, 2015, 09:09:39 pmThere may be a fundamental mismatch in the product and the customers who are likely to use BitShares. Cryptocurrency users are risk-taking technophiles. But the USD, EUR, CNY, GLD are all "old man" investments. Getting into the BitShares system in order to store my USD as a bitshares-based CFD and getting a 1-3% yield is not something that's interesting.The old, conservative hard-money guys like Peter Schiff or Jim Rogers who like gold are not coming anywhere near something like BitShares. They don't even trust bitcoin. They would trust bitSILVER even less.Honestly, I'd be far more interested in peer to peer lending on BitShares at usurious rates. Or trading exotic assets like leveraged Chinese tech stocks. I don't have access to those markets and they are thrilling. bitUSD isn't thrilling or lucrative to me. It looks good on paper, but how many of us actually want to hold bitUSD. Obviously not that many, given its market cap. We don't want to tackle dark-markets because that would create legal exposure for delegates. We don't want to do stocks, because then we'd be exposed to securities laws. We don't want to do gambling products, because of how we're told Chinese regulators would react. We're trying to change branding from DAC to decentralized Co-op to further distinguish our intent. There's an issue here that's not being correctly addressed.If someone can mine Silver and Gold to their doorstep instead of bitcoin, that might change. Not positive though. This is a very interesting thread.
Quote from: Volker on May 06, 2015, 09:09:39 pmThere may be a fundamental mismatch in the product and the customers who are likely to use BitShares. Cryptocurrency users are risk-taking technophiles. But the USD, EUR, CNY, GLD are all "old man" investments. Getting into the BitShares system in order to store my USD as a bitshares-based CFD and getting a 1-3% yield is not something that's interesting.The old, conservative hard-money guys like Peter Schiff or Jim Rogers who like gold are not coming anywhere near something like BitShares. They don't even trust bitcoin. They would trust bitSILVER even less.Honestly, I'd be far more interested in peer to peer lending on BitShares at usurious rates. Or trading exotic assets like leveraged Chinese tech stocks. I don't have access to those markets and they are thrilling. bitUSD isn't thrilling or lucrative to me. It looks good on paper, but how many of us actually want to hold bitUSD. Obviously not that many, given its market cap. We don't want to tackle dark-markets because that would create legal exposure for delegates. We don't want to do stocks, because then we'd be exposed to securities laws. We don't want to do gambling products, because of how we're told Chinese regulators would react. We're trying to change branding from DAC to decentralized Co-op to further distinguish our intent. There's an issue here that's not being correctly addressed.
There may be a fundamental mismatch in the product and the customers who are likely to use BitShares. Cryptocurrency users are risk-taking technophiles. But the USD, EUR, CNY, GLD are all "old man" investments. Getting into the BitShares system in order to store my USD as a bitshares-based CFD and getting a 1-3% yield is not something that's interesting.The old, conservative hard-money guys like Peter Schiff or Jim Rogers who like gold are not coming anywhere near something like BitShares. They don't even trust bitcoin. They would trust bitSILVER even less.Honestly, I'd be far more interested in peer to peer lending on BitShares at usurious rates. Or trading exotic assets like leveraged Chinese tech stocks. I don't have access to those markets and they are thrilling. bitUSD isn't thrilling or lucrative to me. It looks good on paper, but how many of us actually want to hold bitUSD. Obviously not that many, given its market cap.
Are you saying POW mining will bring in users?
Quote from: Empirical1.2 on May 04, 2015, 03:45:24 pmQuote from: EstefanTT on May 04, 2015, 03:36:10 pmQuote from: Empirical1.2 on February 01, 2015, 11:41:08 pmIf you google 'BitUSD' 'BitShares' and most importantly 'BitGold' & choose 'videos' the little video I did comes up in the top 2 just because it has those terms in the title, despite only having a few views.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fnunXnLdJdwIt would be great for BitShares to have the top BitGold video and BitMarkets videos get a lot of views so I've suggested he mentions BitShares, BitGold & BitUSD more in the titles or descriptions. He says a few like that are in the pipeline.That video is a good/quick introduction to BitShares. I want to add fench sub titles on the video to include it in a project coming very soon. Is somebody has a way to contact the video owner ? I tried it via youtube but I got no answers. Thanks ;pI made the video and posted it for fun, however it has quite a few copyright issues so I will probably have to take it down soon unfortunately.I assume when you are long bts again you will make him the favor Sent from my ALCATEL ONE TOUCH 997D
Quote from: EstefanTT on May 04, 2015, 03:36:10 pmQuote from: Empirical1.2 on February 01, 2015, 11:41:08 pmIf you google 'BitUSD' 'BitShares' and most importantly 'BitGold' & choose 'videos' the little video I did comes up in the top 2 just because it has those terms in the title, despite only having a few views.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fnunXnLdJdwIt would be great for BitShares to have the top BitGold video and BitMarkets videos get a lot of views so I've suggested he mentions BitShares, BitGold & BitUSD more in the titles or descriptions. He says a few like that are in the pipeline.That video is a good/quick introduction to BitShares. I want to add fench sub titles on the video to include it in a project coming very soon. Is somebody has a way to contact the video owner ? I tried it via youtube but I got no answers. Thanks ;pI made the video and posted it for fun, however it has quite a few copyright issues so I will probably have to take it down soon unfortunately.
Quote from: Empirical1.2 on February 01, 2015, 11:41:08 pmIf you google 'BitUSD' 'BitShares' and most importantly 'BitGold' & choose 'videos' the little video I did comes up in the top 2 just because it has those terms in the title, despite only having a few views.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fnunXnLdJdwIt would be great for BitShares to have the top BitGold video and BitMarkets videos get a lot of views so I've suggested he mentions BitShares, BitGold & BitUSD more in the titles or descriptions. He says a few like that are in the pipeline.That video is a good/quick introduction to BitShares. I want to add fench sub titles on the video to include it in a project coming very soon. Is somebody has a way to contact the video owner ? I tried it via youtube but I got no answers. Thanks ;p
If you google 'BitUSD' 'BitShares' and most importantly 'BitGold' & choose 'videos' the little video I did comes up in the top 2 just because it has those terms in the title, despite only having a few views.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fnunXnLdJdwIt would be great for BitShares to have the top BitGold video and BitMarkets videos get a lot of views so I've suggested he mentions BitShares, BitGold & BitUSD more in the titles or descriptions. He says a few like that are in the pipeline.
Quote from: btswildpig on February 10, 2015, 03:24:43 pmChinese side is an incorrect description . Try investors side . We can see that trend from both the BTC pair and CNY pair . We as a community are good to each other , but to investors , their feeling is often ignored . And we need to please both parties , both the community members from east&west , also those investors who have never set foot in this forum ( Chinese or not , it doesn't matter , investors all have the same mindset in any free market ) .I've expressed when the price was 3X than what it is now . We haven't lost much community members since then , but as you can see we're losing investors , even worse than some of the other projects .We are losing the short sighted investors, the ones who just want to make a quick buck and dont see all bridges that BitShares is building.
Chinese side is an incorrect description . Try investors side . We can see that trend from both the BTC pair and CNY pair . We as a community are good to each other , but to investors , their feeling is often ignored . And we need to please both parties , both the community members from east&west , also those investors who have never set foot in this forum ( Chinese or not , it doesn't matter , investors all have the same mindset in any free market ) .I've expressed when the price was 3X than what it is now . We haven't lost much community members since then , but as you can see we're losing investors , even worse than some of the other projects .
Quote from: delulo on February 10, 2015, 03:09:49 pmQuote from: xiahui135 on February 10, 2015, 02:43:36 pmpeople just are leaving bts.some particular happending on the chinese side?Chinese side is an incorrect description . Try investors side . We can see that trend from both the BTC pair and CNY pair . We as a community are good to each other , but to investors , their feeling is often ignored . And we need to please both parties , both the community members from east&west , also those investors who have never set foot in this forum ( Chinese or not , it doesn't matter , investors all have the same mindset in any free market ) .I've expressed when the price was 3X than what it is now . We haven't lost much community members since then , but as you can see we're losing investors , even worse than some of the other projects .
Quote from: xiahui135 on February 10, 2015, 02:43:36 pmpeople just are leaving bts.some particular happending on the chinese side?
people just are leaving bts.
I think Chinese goes to bts.hk instead of bitshares official homepage.
Quote from: Bitcoinfan on February 09, 2015, 02:18:34 pmQuote from: clayop on February 09, 2015, 05:03:03 amhttp://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitshares.orgNow South Korea is No.1 I'm skeptical of this. There are no China users? They should be #2, if not #1. Possibly they are vpning through Korea. My thoughts exactly.
Quote from: clayop on February 09, 2015, 05:03:03 amhttp://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitshares.orgNow South Korea is No.1 I'm skeptical of this. There are no China users? They should be #2, if not #1. Possibly they are vpning through Korea.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitshares.orgNow South Korea is No.1
Quote from: Empirical1.2 on February 01, 2015, 11:41:08 pm.... It would be great for BitShares to have the top BitGold videoNow i think this has potential. Think about it - what if we created a really good and professional video for bitgold and promoted it wide and far. Really pushing home the truth about bitgold that differentiates us - where else can you earn interest on gold and hold it without counter party risk? - this could raise our profile in one move on places like youtube. Maybe offer a free 1oz per day for a week or two in some sort of competition?BM said we need to use the term BitGold more than our competition. What better way than a controversial, thought provoking, hard hitting professionally made video? Now we'd have to get it right first time. No screw ups.Just my 2 cents.
.... It would be great for BitShares to have the top BitGold video
@clayop I think you are absolutely right. We should start selling BitUSD and BitGold. I just bought the site whatisbitgold.com, its not finished. But would like to get feedback, or hack it yourself at github.com/kaibakker/whatisbitgold.com .
Way to sell, is way to serve.Why not provide a service that many people need with bituSD or bitGold? Such as instant international money transfer.
Quote from: Empirical1.2 on February 01, 2015, 11:41:08 pmYou're from South Korea clayop? I was really suprised to see according to Alexa, 25% of BitShares.org visitors are from there. I don't think they count China but still I think that must be a mistake. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitshares.orgBecause I put much effort to advertising Bitshares in Korean crypto communities, I think this may be possible. Bitshares 101 Korean version is free and available online now, many people are contacting me with their problems, I regularly update about new client versions and important news. Should I increase my payrate?
You're from South Korea clayop? I was really suprised to see according to Alexa, 25% of BitShares.org visitors are from there. I don't think they count China but still I think that must be a mistake. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitshares.org
Google Trends shows just a simple comparison, but it maybe interesting result and has a lot of implications for us.Example: Apple vs. iPhone vs. Macbookhttp://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=apple%2C%20iphone%2C%20macbook&date=today%2012-m&cmpt=q&tz=Our result: Bitshares vs. BitUSD vs. BitGOLD (major part of bitgold is not from ours)http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bitshares%2C%20bitusd%2C%20bitgold&date=today%2012-m&cmpt=q&tz=IMHO, marketing team can do "Free BitUSD" giveaway with SNS viral marketing (i.e. people should post about BitUSD on facebook to get BitUSD) when our light-wallet, mobile wallet, or web wallet is launched.