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Main => General Discussion => Topic started by: bytemaster on May 28, 2015, 08:57:41 pm
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Soon you will have an exchange that you can wire transfer USD to from anywhere in the world and then trade for BitUSD. Also supported BitCNY and BitEUR.
Details will be available in a few weeks, but we have a commitment and are actively testing integration and were given permission to make this post ;)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kTj2XLayPM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kTj2XLayPM
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Soon you will have an exchange that you can wire transfer USD to from anywhere in the world and then trade for BitUSD. Also supported BitCNY and BitEUR.
Details will be available in a few weeks, but we have a commitment and are actively testing integration and were given permission to make this post ;)
So I'm guessing all the front running has been done by this entity. Now at least we know why the price has rallied so hard.
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Good news BM!
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Excellent news! Finally the first step for fiat on/off ramp. +5%
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Soon you will have an exchange that you can wire transfer USD to from anywhere in the world and then trade for BitUSD. Also supported BitCNY and BitEUR.
Details will be available in a few weeks, but we have a commitment and are actively testing integration and were given permission to make this post ;)
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'These go to 11'
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So I'm guessing all the front running has been done by this entity. Now at least we know why the price has rallied so hard.
lulz, so many post proclaiming one entity is responsible for the rise. don't marginalize muh (or anyone elses) bts purchases man. :P
pretty sure i, and many others, did a bit of lifting of our own over the past few weeks. personally, i've tripled up muh bitshares hodlings (thanks!).
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Great news.
Is it an already established exchange or a startup that has launched to focus on BitShares ?
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So I'm guessing all the front running has been done by this entity. Now at least we know why the price has rallied so hard.
Good to know it was not a pure pump...
PS and after gainsX3 they want to take some profits selling on us?
what do you think lil_jay890? Selling at the "news"? Or they love us as we do?
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+5% +5% Fantastic news. Well Done 8)
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So I'm guessing all the front running has been done by this entity. Now at least we know why the price has rallied so hard.
lulz, so many post proclaiming one entity is responsible for the rise. don't marginalize muh (or anyone elses) bts purchases man. :P
pretty sure i, and many others, did a bit of lifting of our own over the past few weeks. personally, i've tripled up muh bitshares hodlings (thanks!).
I got over 800k in the past few weeks. Wish it was more.
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This announcement is an enormously big deal.
Its one of the big things we hoped for last November. Finally the promises will begin to be delivered on.
Time to believe big in Bitshares again.
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Great news.
Is it an already established exchange or a startup that has launched to focus on BitShares ?
Existing exchange looking to gain an edge in the market to attract users.
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2 .. 1.. ignition!
*chrrrrrroooooaaaarrrshhhhhhchrrrrrrrrrrr*
Reaching 100% thrust, .. n o w!
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hodor hodor hodor hodor hodor!
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Don't be surprised if we are up to 1 cent within 24 hours.
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Hmm....hmm.......hrmmm....
*buys more BTS*
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So I'm guessing all the front running has been done by this entity. Now at least we know why the price has rallied so hard.
lulz, so many post proclaiming one entity is responsible for the rise. don't marginalize muh (or anyone elses) bts purchases man. :P
pretty sure i, and many others, did a bit of lifting of our own over the past few weeks. personally, i've tripled up muh bitshares hodlings (thanks!).
I know everyone is excited about this and I agree that it is great news. The price action before this announcement is very fishy. Granted I'm happy for you guys who got in before the rise, but unless you were in the know it was all luck.
A big rally before a news announcement is going to draw unwanted and negative attention, especially if we dump in the next couple days. Its the definition of insider trading and if this kind of stuff continues we will have regulators (SEC, consumer protection, FBI) down are throats in no time.
Still it is a monumental day for bitshares
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So I'm guessing all the front running has been done by this entity. Now at least we know why the price has rallied so hard.
lulz, so many post proclaiming one entity is responsible for the rise. don't marginalize muh (or anyone elses) bts purchases man. :P
pretty sure i, and many others, did a bit of lifting of our own over the past few weeks. personally, i've tripled up muh bitshares hodlings (thanks!).
I know everyone is excited about this and I agree that it is great news. The price action before this announcement is very fishy. Granted I'm happy for you guys who got in before the rise, but unless you were in the know it was all luck.
A big rally before a news announcement is going to draw unwanted and negative attention, especially if we dump in the next couple days. Its the definition of insider trading and if this kind of stuff continues we will have regulators (SEC, consumer protection, FBI) down are throats in no time.
Still it is a monumental day for bitshares
No, all or almost all the recent buying was just us in the community thinking the price was too cheap and had bottomed and would rally. The increase was based on having hit a bottom, then stabilized, then the moving averages and MACD turning positive.
This news has NOT been priced in yet. (Of course, buy the rumor sell the news....maybe whales will sell the news for a bit, who knows. But this news is VERY good and BTS should head much higher).
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No, all or almost all the recent buying was just us in the community thinking the price was too cheap and had bottomed and would rally. The increase was based on having hit a bottom, then stabilized, then the moving averages and MACD turning positive.
This news has NOT been priced in yet. (Of course, buy the rumor sell the news....maybe whales will sell the news for a bit, who knows. But this news is VERY good and BTS should head much higher).
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So I'm guessing all the front running has been done by this entity. Now at least we know why the price has rallied so hard.
lulz, so many post proclaiming one entity is responsible for the rise. don't marginalize muh (or anyone elses) bts purchases man. :P
pretty sure i, and many others, did a bit of lifting of our own over the past few weeks. personally, i've tripled up muh bitshares hodlings (thanks!).
I know everyone is excited about this and I agree that it is great news. The price action before this announcement is very fishy. Granted I'm happy for you guys who got in before the rise, but unless you were in the know it was all luck.
A big rally before a news announcement is going to draw unwanted and negative attention, especially if we dump in the next couple days. Its the definition of insider trading and if this kind of stuff continues we will have regulators (SEC, consumer protection, FBI) down are throats in no time.
Still it is a monumental day for bitshares
No, all or almost all the recent buying was just us in the community thinking the price was too cheap and had bottomed and would rally. The increase was based on having hit a bottom, then stabilized, then the moving averages and MACD turning positive.
This news has NOT been priced in yet. (Of course, buy the rumor sell the news....maybe whales will sell the news for a bit, who knows. But this news is VERY good and BTS should head much higher).
This community has thought bts was cheap and should rally when the market cap was at 50 mil, 40mil, 30mil, 20 mil, 10 mil. Hundreds of thousands of dollars was being done each day for the last week. That crushes the average volume. I highly doubt the buyer(s) was someone in this community waiting on a MACD crossover
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bter price going nuts and there just arent any shares for sale there!
Wait until china wakes up in an hour and the btc38 whales see this news.
$25M market cap tonight?
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I was buying all the way down, and when MACD crossed I stopped buying. Is this insider trading, or luck?
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Great news.
Is it an already established exchange or a startup that has launched to focus on BitShares ?
Existing exchange looking to gain an edge in the market to attract users.
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Will part of this edge come from issuing an UIA?
ExchangeUSD to trade against bitUSD to keep the peg tight?
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So I'm guessing all the front running has been done by this entity. Now at least we know why the price has rallied so hard.
lulz, so many post proclaiming one entity is responsible for the rise. don't marginalize muh (or anyone elses) bts purchases man. :P
pretty sure i, and many others, did a bit of lifting of our own over the past few weeks. personally, i've tripled up muh bitshares hodlings (thanks!).
I know everyone is excited about this and I agree that it is great news. The price action before this announcement is very fishy. Granted I'm happy for you guys who got in before the rise, but unless you were in the know it was all luck.
A big rally before a news announcement is going to draw unwanted and negative attention, especially if we dump in the next couple days. Its the definition of insider trading and if this kind of stuff continues we will have regulators (SEC, consumer protection, FBI) down are throats in no time.
Still it is a monumental day for bitshares
No, all or almost all the recent buying was just us in the community thinking the price was too cheap and had bottomed and would rally. The increase was based on having hit a bottom, then stabilized, then the moving averages and MACD turning positive.
This news has NOT been priced in yet. (Of course, buy the rumor sell the news....maybe whales will sell the news for a bit, who knows. But this news is VERY good and BTS should head much higher).
This community has thought bts was cheap and should rally when the market cap was at 50 mil, 40mil, 30mil, 20 mil, 10 mil. Hundreds of thousands of dollars was being done each day for the last week. That crushes the average volume. I highly doubt the buyer(s) was someone in this community waiting on a MACD crossover
Well... the whole crypto market went up, DogeCoin had the same jump. Some chinese investors might have bought back.
But on the other side, insider trading is always possible. Unless some people have been recorded giving insider hints, I never got how anyone could ever prove definitively that insider trading occurred (why did you buy at this very moment ? "Because I felt like buying at this time" will always seem a good justification to me...). It seems quite hard to prevent it in cryptoworld.. that's a frightening problem
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This community has thought bts was cheap and should rally when the market cap was at 50 mil, 40mil, 30mil, 20 mil, 10 mil. Hundreds of thousands of dollars was being done each day for the last week. That crushes the average volume. I highly doubt the buyer(s) was someone in this community waiting on a MACD crossover
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hey ... come on .. if price goes down..people are unhappy…now the price is rising and people are not happy .. calm down and relax and keep watching...
from the motivation side i can just speak on my own but this is givinig me a big boost ... so i LIKE it :)
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So I'm guessing all the front running has been done by this entity. Now at least we know why the price has rallied so hard.
lulz, so many post proclaiming one entity is responsible for the rise. don't marginalize muh (or anyone elses) bts purchases man. :P
pretty sure i, and many others, did a bit of lifting of our own over the past few weeks. personally, i've tripled up muh bitshares hodlings (thanks!).
I know everyone is excited about this and I agree that it is great news. The price action before this announcement is very fishy. Granted I'm happy for you guys who got in before the rise, but unless you were in the know it was all luck.
A big rally before a news announcement is going to draw unwanted and negative attention, especially if we dump in the next couple days. Its the definition of insider trading and if this kind of stuff continues we will have regulators (SEC, consumer protection, FBI) down are throats in no time.
Still it is a monumental day for bitshares
No, all or almost all the recent buying was just us in the community thinking the price was too cheap and had bottomed and would rally. The increase was based on having hit a bottom, then stabilized, then the moving averages and MACD turning positive.
This news has NOT been priced in yet. (Of course, buy the rumor sell the news....maybe whales will sell the news for a bit, who knows. But this news is VERY good and BTS should head much higher).
Somewhat disagree. The recent rise majorly comes from big whales' speculation. But now we are transitioning from speculation to value investment.
IMO wildpig's explanation is very accurate.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SILvPVVAhBo
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it s happening,patience,patience,patience with BitShares... ;D ;D
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I'll believe it when I see it :P
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This community has thought bts was cheap and should rally when the market cap was at 50 mil, 40mil, 30mil, 20 mil, 10 mil. Hundreds of thousands of dollars was being done each day for the last week. That crushes the average volume. I highly doubt the buyer(s) was someone in this community waiting on a MACD crossover
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At least a bit of the volume was me waiting on a MACD crossover. :)
I bet a lot of the volume was btc38 whales buying the MACD crossover.
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A big rally before a news announcement is going to draw unwanted and negative attention, especially if we dump in the next couple days. Its the definition of insider trading and if this kind of stuff continues we will have regulators (SEC, consumer protection, FBI) down are throats in no time.
In a totally free and unregulated market like bitcoin and BitShares, nothing is illegal. it is survival of the fittest.
Like in nature.
Life ain't fair.
Thats the way it should be. Insider trading laws are bogus anyways. The more insider trading any market can get, the better. The more information disseminated through price action the better. I fully expect everyone to act on the information they have. If everyone does this, markets will reflect actual value far quicker and more honestly. Fraud would show itself sooner and fewer people would get hurt.
Insider trading, like money laundering and not wearing seat belts, are all victimless crimes that protect no one.
I'm very excited about this news! Should I wait for more people to hear about it before I buy, so its fair? Those closest to the key information have every right to the advantage it gives.
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A big rally before a news announcement is going to draw unwanted and negative attention, especially if we dump in the next couple days. Its the definition of insider trading and if this kind of stuff continues we will have regulators (SEC, consumer protection, FBI) down are throats in no time.
In a totally free and unregulated market like bitcoin and BitShares, nothing is illegal. it is survival of the fittest.
Like in nature.
Life ain't fair.
Thats the way it should be. Insider trading laws are bogus anyways. The more insider trading any market can get, the better. The more information disseminated through price action the better. I fully expect everyone to act on the information they have. If everyone does this, markets will reflect actual value far quicker and more honestly. Fraud would show itself sooner and fewer people would get hurt.
Insider trading, like money laundering and not wearing seat belts, are all victimless crimes that protect no one.
I'm very excited about this news! Should I wait for more people to hear about it before I buy, so its fair? Those closest to the key information have every right to the advantage it gives.
For those of us who read the info on a public forum, and buy right away, its definitely not insider trading. At this point its public domain.
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So VTC going up 900% is okay, but BTS going up 100% is a potential crime? For the first time in 6 months my BTS investment is now positive. My trip to Whistler this weekend will be very relaxing. Thanks BTS COMMUNITY! You guys are the reason I never sold and kept buying. :) Maybe that's insider info? Special thanks to Yin and Yang (Newmine and BTC Jesus2.0)!
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You guys are the reason I never sold and kept buying. :) Maybe that's insider info? Special thanks to Yin and Yang (Newmine and BTC Jesus2.0)!
Same, and yes, if you never sold and keep buying - it's crime by nature. :)
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Great news!
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Special thanks to Yin and Yang (Newmine and BTC Jesus2.0)!
lol
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Going up 100% right before a large announcement is a potential crime. Going down 50% before a negative announcement is a potential crime. If the people who are integrating BTS with their exchange were the buyers or they relayed information to other people were buying that is definitely a crime. Not saying I agree with securities laws, but they are laws and can reach beyond registered securities.
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Is BitShares on the verge of having crossed the Trough of Disillusionment?
(http://newmr.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Hype-Cycle.png)
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I know everyone is excited about this and I agree that it is great news. The price action before this announcement is very fishy. Granted I'm happy for you guys who got in before the rise, but unless you were in the know it was all luck.
I'm having a hard time understanding how you came to the above opinion, unless you're not following the forum/dev hangouts as much as those of us that were buying since it dipped under 2k.
It wasn't luck, maybe faith combined with (or born from) research, but definitely not luck. BTS was rage/panic sold well below what I (and apparently others) considered it was worth, so I (and others) bought all I could once it dipped under 2k and all the way up.
No luck. No insider info. Just following the post, listening to the hangouts, feeling the flow and making the proper decisions.
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It wasn't luck, maybe faith combined with (or born from) research, but definitely not luck. BTS was rage/panic sold well below what I (and apparently others) considered it was worth, so I (and others) bought all I could once it dipped under 2k and all the way up.
No luck. No insider info. Just following the post, listening to the hangouts, feeling the flow and making the proper decisions.
Yup. Understanding of BTS potential + Technical Analysis.
Go back a few weeks and see how much fear and anger there was here in April.
"This project died in march". Hah.
Read the "ALL TIME LOW" thread in trading discussion.
The price was pushed down way too far. Its STILL down way too far. We should be bare minimum .1 CNY imo.
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if the next days the price goes up at least another 100% from current prices (market cap right now$19millions) then it's ok....
If the next days the price will tank hard then we can be quite confident we will see bm on TV
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April 29:
I am very confident that the moment when that guy panic sold on polo was the bottom.
Watch the recovery happen now.
And on attempt #47 Ander correctly predicted the bottom!
Lol.
This is the best moment in history, past or future, to buy BTS. That will ever occur. :)
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Well I guess that you can't fool everyone. You are a smart cookie maplehead. Most of the suckers here were too stoopid to realize that Newmine and BitcoinJesus2.O are the same person! LMFAO! SUCKERRRRS!!!!! Sold me your shares reeeeeeal cheap out of primal monkey fear!!!
Newmine was long this whole time? WTF?
Yep... and you sold your BitShares to me at Protoshares prices !! ha ha suckers!
They even sold at 40% of protoshares prices.
Silly fear driven panic sellers.
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China waking up.
IT BEGINS.
500 KNIVES!
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Go back a few weeks and see how much fear and anger there was here in April.
Exactly (http://i.imgur.com/MwkMyGA.jpg).
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Yep... and you sold your BitShares to me at Protoshares prices !! ha ha suckers!
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/62609208.jpg)
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China waking up.
500 KNIVES!
properly properly 8)
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A big rally before a news announcement is going to draw unwanted and negative attention, especially if we dump in the next couple days. Its the definition of insider trading and if this kind of stuff continues we will have regulators (SEC, consumer protection, FBI) down are throats in no time.
yes but assume there is a scenario in place we reach the next days/month spot number 2 or 3 behind bitcoin or ripple :P
In that case nobody will give a shit for the price move before bm's announcement :)
PS this "big" rally could seem like a tiny reaction after you see the chart again in 1-2 months...
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Soon you will have an exchange that you can wire transfer USD to from anywhere in the world and then trade for BitUSD. Also supported BitCNY and BitEUR.
Trade for BitUSD at parity, or through an order book?
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Anyone care to speculate what exchange it could be? How many accept worldwide USD wire transfers?
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Anyone care to speculate what exchange it could be? How many accept worldwide USD wire transfers?
Cryptsy has shown signs of the BTS wallet.
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Soon you will have an exchange that you can wire transfer USD to from anywhere in the world and then trade for BitUSD. Also supported BitCNY and BitEUR.
Details will be available in a few weeks, but we have a commitment and are actively testing integration and were given permission to make this post ;)
what?Are you serious?
I can not believe! should I buy more BTS???
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Going up 100% right before a large announcement is a potential crime. Going down 50% before a negative announcement is a potential crime. If the people who are integrating BTS with their exchange were the buyers or they relayed information to other people were buying that is definitely a crime. Not saying I agree with securities laws, but they are laws and can reach beyond registered securities.
The movements of BitShares happened the same time as lots of other markets started to see a rise. Was DOGE somehow involved? They went up at the same time. How about LTC? Did they conspire with us?
Everyone has been following the major crypto movements recently and to come out with this tunnel vision accusation against a good news story for BitShares seems egregious and unnecessary.
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Soon you will have an exchange that you can wire transfer USD to from anywhere in the world and then trade for BitUSD. Also supported BitCNY and BitEUR.
Details will be available in a few weeks, but we have a commitment and are actively testing integration and were given permission to make this post ;)
what?Are you serious?
I can not believe! should I buy more BTS???
Never stop buying. :P
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I want desperately tonyk's market analysis now :)
Step in... please!
Sent from my ALCATEL ONE TOUCH 997D
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Hmmm....what's the fastest way to get my hands on some BTS? I tried trading with Shapeshift...and if the block explorer is correct, that apparently did not work and I lost about $5 in BTC (probably should have tested with a lower amount). Any suggestions?
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This is a good news .
But again , news is irrelevant to the grand scheme of things .
When 100 ordinary small investors see the chance to buy in early , 1 major player will see the chance of dumping earlier . It's always about the trend , not about the news . When the major player is not on a dumping trend , the price will go up with good news . On the other hand , if he is on a dumping trend , the good news will cover him .
So control your risks , think carefully before you buy in .
Anyway , I'm buying , but I expect things may not turn out positive to the price after all .
(Facts I know personally : Every good news last year covered a big guy dumped his BTS to buy stocks in China . The announcement of big thing 1.0 gave him the chance to dump more than 1 million USD within a week . And BTS was in a downward trend ever since , even before the merger )
So if you are looking for short term profit , learn some trading skills before you rush in .
If you're looking for long term investment , then .....why do you buy in after a good news ?
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I knew Brian Page would not let us down!
For real though, the price turned around and has been climbing ever since the positive vibes of the pre-announcement that there would be an announcement in June. I know this is why I have been buying. The fact that this announcement preceded that announcement I would think announces that the summer announcements are going to announce to the world BitShares has arrived.
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Hmmm....what's the fastest way to get my hands on some BTS? I tried trading with Shapeshift...and if the block explorer is correct, that apparently did not work and I lost about $5 in BTC (probably should have tested with a lower amount). Any suggestions?
Definitely metaexchange. Prices are real good and the experience is always great. Nice and fast delivery too.
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Hmmm....what's the fastest way to get my hands on some BTS? I tried trading with Shapeshift...and if the block explorer is correct, that apparently did not work and I lost about $5 in BTC (probably should have tested with a lower amount). Any suggestions?
Definitely metaexchange. Prices are real good and the experience is always great. Nice and fast delivery too.
Seconding this. www.metaexchange.info (http://www.metaexchange.info) and www.blocktrades.us (http://www.blocktrades.us) usually have the best spreads, though shapeshift can be competitive on occasion
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Cool sounds like a fantastic news! +5% +5%
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Hmmm....what's the fastest way to get my hands on some BTS? I tried trading with Shapeshift...and if the block explorer is correct, that apparently did not work and I lost about $5 in BTC (probably should have tested with a lower amount). Any suggestions?
Definitely metaexchange. Prices are real good and the experience is always great. Nice and fast delivery too.
Seconding this. www.metaexchange.info (http://www.metaexchange.info) and www.blocktrades.us (http://www.blocktrades.us) usually have the best spreads, though shapeshift can be competitive on occasion
Went to metaexchange. Confused here. How do they figure out that it was me who sent it? Do they bring up a unique BTC address for every time and then I have to wait for the confirmation to show up in the blockchain and then just submit it with my BTS account name? Confused...
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Hmmm....what's the fastest way to get my hands on some BTS? I tried trading with Shapeshift...and if the block explorer is correct, that apparently did not work and I lost about $5 in BTC (probably should have tested with a lower amount). Any suggestions?
Definitely metaexchange. Prices are real good and the experience is always great. Nice and fast delivery too.
Seconding this. www.metaexchange.info (http://www.metaexchange.info) and www.blocktrades.us (http://www.blocktrades.us) usually have the best spreads, though shapeshift can be competitive on occasion
Went to metaexchange. Confused here. How do they figure out that it was me who sent it? Do they bring up a unique BTC address for every time and then I have to wait for the confirmation to show up in the blockchain and then just submit it with my BTS account name? Confused...
The first step is to tell metaexchange where you want your BTS sent. When this information is submitted it gives you a BTC address. Those two pieces of information create a pairing. Now you can send your BTC to that address which is uniquely paired to your BTS account.
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good boy
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For those who yelled "insider trading" ...
lol , you really think the price movement in China during a grand rise of alt-coin while the retreating from the stock market has anything to do with any American .
Get over yourselves ...... Please ...
If good news lovers can drive the price up like this , we wouldn't be dropping like this in the past .
It's all about the trend . Keep in mind .
Also , I disagree with those who claimed any specific reason for the upward trend , including some delegate proposal who i'm not gonna name .
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Its the definition of insider trading and if this kind of stuff continues we will have regulators (SEC, consumer protection, FBI) down are throats in no time.
2000 BTS bounty goes to the first person responsible for bringing on an official inquiry into BitShares by the SEC/FBI/ or any other 3 letter government agency. Because first they, and then everyone else on planet earth will learn that there is nothing you can do to sue or fine or ever stop the relentless march of time, evolution, death, bitcoin, or BitShares. Then watch what happens to the price of the indestructible monster that has been unleashed upon this world of humans!
No man nor group of mortal men can stop death or BitShares. The futility in such pursuits is mathematically equal.
BitShares - "we ain't Ripple"
Check my history, a Lannister always pays his debts! Where is Hodor, he can vouch for me!
hodor.
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For those who yelled "insider trading" ...
lol , you really think the price movement in China during a grand rise of alt-coin while the retreating from the stock market has anything to do with any American .
Get over yourselves ...... Please ...
If good news lovers can drive the price up like this , we wouldn't be dropping like this in the past .
It's all about the trend . Keep in mind .
Also , I disagree with those who claimed any specific reason for the upward trend , including some delegate proposal who i'm not gonna name .
We have 3 white soldiers on the weekly so trend has changed medium term
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Wow. Every decent coin is going absolutely insane.
The new crypto bull has started. But they are only buying the 2.0 coins that have a chance to win.
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Wow. Every decent coin is going absolutely insane.
The new crypto bull has started. But they are only buying the 2.0 coins that have a chance to win.
Hmmm...I'm very curious to see what happens to BTC's market cap....if it stays close to the same and the others rise....then there is new blood entering the crypto scene...either that or VC is just not giving up on crypto.
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Dollar cost averaging keeps the fomo at bay.
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This is a good news .
But again , news is irrelevant to the grand scheme of things .
When 100 ordinary small investors see the chance to buy in early , 1 major player will see the chance of dumping earlier . It's always about the trend , not about the news . When the major player is not on a dumping trend , the price will go up with good news . On the other hand , if he is on a dumping trend , the good news will cover him .
So control your risks , think carefully before you buy in .
Anyway , I'm buying , but I expect things may not turn out positive to the price after all .
(Facts I know personally : Every good news last year covered a big guy dumped his BTS to buy stocks in China . The announcement of big thing 1.0 gave him the chance to dump more than 1 million USD within a week . And BTS was in a downward trend ever since , even before the merger )
So if you are looking for short term profit , learn some trading skills before you rush in .
If you're looking for long term investment , then .....why do you buy in after a good news ?
Sage advice as always.
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Wow one piece of vague news makes you guys orgasm... I'm all for bts rising, but take off the rose glasses.
Seriously you don't think it is suspicious that the price rallied 100% one week before this was announced?
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Wow one piece of vague news makes you guys orgasm... I'm all for bts rising, but take off the rose glasses.
Seriously you don't think it is suspicious that the price rallied 100% one week before this was announced?
lol , you haven't what XPM has done these days .
500% .
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Wow one piece of vague news makes you guys orgasm... I'm all for bts rising, but take off the rose glasses.
Seriously you don't think it is suspicious that the price rallied 100% one week before this was announced?
this is what i found suspicious ...
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/f6412bc5b6f8d82f627c6ab396ea2f86/tumblr_np3glsPVXA1rtef2wo1_400.png)
April 29th (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16031.msg205392.html#msg205392) is when I started blowing my wad.
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Wow. Every decent coin is going absolutely insane.
The new crypto bull has started. But they are only buying the 2.0 coins that have a chance to win.
Hmmm...I'm very curious to see what happens to BTC's market cap....if it stays close to the same and the others rise....then there is new blood entering the crypto scene...either that or VC is just not giving up on crypto.
There's enough money out there waiting. If someone with very deep pockets decides the 2.0 time has come, then BitShares and others could challenge Bitcoin's market cap, purely on the basis of investment. If (when?) we even get close to that position, there will be so much Bitcoin doubt and so many bandwagon jumpers that the momentum alone could be substantial. Of course, it will take more adoption and utility to sustain such a roll, but just look what we have here in terms of technology. Adoption by merchants, etc. will be a snap. There are at least five different reasons that BitShares is a better mousetrap and is far more useful than the cryptos above us.
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Wow. Every decent coin is going absolutely insane.
The new crypto bull has started. But they are only buying the 2.0 coins that have a chance to win.
Hmmm...I'm very curious to see what happens to BTC's market cap....if it stays close to the same and the others rise....then there is new blood entering the crypto scene...either that or VC is just not giving up on crypto.
There's enough money out there waiting. If someone with very deep pockets decides the 2.0 time has come, then BitShares and others could challenge Bitcoin's market cap, purely on the basis of investment. If (when?) we even get close to that position, there will be so much Bitcoin doubt and so many bandwagon jumpers that the momentum alone could be substantial. Of course, it will take more adoption and utility to sustain such a roll, but just look what we have here in terms of technology. Adoption by merchants, etc. will be a snap. There are at least five different reasons that BitShares is a better mousetrap and is far more useful than the cryptos above us.
I'm very excited. I'm excited to also begin development on top of it.
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Geaux bitshares and be damned anyone who questions its rise!
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Geaux bitshares and be damned anyone who questions its rise!
Never forget (http://i.imgur.com/gKnULIy.jpg)
or
Never forget (http://i.imgur.com/76arJQo.png)
it's all up to you, as it always has been.
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Wow one piece of vague news makes you guys orgasm... I'm all for bts rising, but take off the rose glasses.
Seriously you don't think it is suspicious that the price rallied 100% one week before this was announced?
Do you have any fucking idea how much BTS went DOWN? I mean come on, it was massively overdue for a rise of MORE than 100%, even if nothing at all happened.
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I hope it's not cryptsy. Super shady exchange.
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This announcement is an enormously big deal.
Its one of the big things we hoped for last November. Finally the promises will begin to be delivered on.
Time to believe big in Bitshares again.[/i]
wait what? why ever was there any doubt?
Granted I'm happy for you guys who got in before the rise, but unless you were in the know it was all luck.
I take issue with this. I bought protoshares. I bought angelshares. I bought BTS when they were 20 cents. I bought all the way down to this recent low, and yes, even with all the news I will be buying at whatever the price is when I get paid.
Most of us here are stoked by the possibilities BitShares opens up. That is not luck. Not by a long shot.
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Btce would be ideal
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Soon you will have an exchange that you can wire transfer USD to from anywhere in the world and then trade for BitUSD. Also supported BitCNY and BitEUR.
Details will be available in a few weeks, but we have a commitment and are actively testing integration and were given permission to make this post ;)
Is it an american exchange or chinese exchange. If we get put onto cryptsy we will certainly see a pump. It would be really great to get onto jubi although i have very little information about this exchange aside from the volume I see on cmc.
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Soon you will have an exchange that you can wire transfer USD to from anywhere in the world and then trade for BitUSD. Also supported BitCNY and BitEUR.
Details will be available in a few weeks, but we have a commitment and are actively testing integration and were given permission to make this post ;)
Is it an american exchange or chinese exchange. If we get put onto cryptsy we will certainly see a pump. It would be really great to get onto jubi although i have very little information about this exchange aside from the volume I see on cmc.
jubi ....hehe
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Soon you will have an exchange that you can wire transfer USD to from anywhere in the world and then trade for BitUSD. Also supported BitCNY and BitEUR.
Details will be available in a few weeks, but we have a commitment and are actively testing integration and were given permission to make this post ;)
Is it an american exchange or chinese exchange. If we get put onto cryptsy we will certainly see a pump. It would be really great to get onto jubi although i have very little information about this exchange aside from the volume I see on cmc.
jubi ....hehe
is jubi a joke?
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Soon you will have an exchange that you can wire transfer USD to from anywhere in the world and then trade for BitUSD. Also supported BitCNY and BitEUR.
Details will be available in a few weeks, but we have a commitment and are actively testing integration and were given permission to make this post ;)
Is it an american exchange or chinese exchange. If we get put onto cryptsy we will certainly see a pump. It would be really great to get onto jubi although i have very little information about this exchange aside from the volume I see on cmc.
jubi ....hehe
is jubi a joke?
jubi is manipulative small exchange who pumps some alt coins .
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This is great news, and so necessary for our growth.
For context, did BTER provide this capability previously? Or is this something completely new for BitShares?
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This is great news, and so necessary for our growth.
For context, did BTER provide this capability previously? Or is this something completely new for BitShares?
yes . BTER can accept USD deposit before .
Also , CCEDK can accept USD deposit too .
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A big rally before a news announcement is going to draw unwanted and negative attention, especially if we dump in the next couple days. Its the definition of insider trading and if this kind of stuff continues we will have regulators (SEC, consumer protection, FBI) down are throats in no time.
In a totally free and unregulated market like bitcoin and BitShares, nothing is illegal. it is survival of the fittest.
Like in nature.
Life ain't fair.
Thats the way it should be. Insider trading laws are bogus anyways. The more insider trading any market can get, the better. The more information disseminated through price action the better. I fully expect everyone to act on the information they have. If everyone does this, markets will reflect actual value far quicker and more honestly. Fraud would show itself sooner and fewer people would get hurt.
Insider trading, like money laundering and not wearing seat belts, are all victimless crimes that protect no one.
I'm very excited about this news! Should I wait for more people to hear about it before I buy, so its fair? Those closest to the key information have every right to the advantage it gives.
+5%
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Huston, We have a problem!
We missed moon!
Heading for mars!
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Next thing we need to is massive adoptions of BitShares, such as on/offline marketplaces, micro-payment, and so on.
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Wow one piece of vague news makes you guys orgasm... I'm all for bts rising, but take off the rose glasses.
Seriously you don't think it is suspicious that the price rallied 100% one week before this was announced?
It is more suspicious that all btc38 "powered" coins are pumped and now the deposit/withdrawal are "problematic".... What if they are buying/pumping all coins with thin air only to attract more BTC deposits?
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(http://i.imgur.com/FnsHfCE.jpg)
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Imagine most bulls have their funds on btc38-like traps... Please be BTS bullish BUT for God's sake keep your BTS on the Bitshares client and not on any external exchange ... DONT FORGET THIS LITTLE ADVISE
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First of all much +5% +5% +5% +5%^ +5% +5% +5%
For the speculations sake I will guess Bitstamp. They are now preparing for their debit card where you can load up bitcoins,usd so I wouldn't be surprised if that card had also bitusd,biteur,bitcny.. :)
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First of all much +5% +5% +5% +5%^ +5% +5% +5%
For the speculations sake I will guess Bitstamp. They are now preparing for their debit card where you can load up bitcoins,usd so I wouldn't be surprised if that card had also bitusd,biteur,bitcny.. :)
That would be so .. BAM^2 .. :)
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First of all much +5% +5% +5% +5%^ +5% +5% +5%
For the speculations sake I will guess Bitstamp. They are now preparing for their debit card where you can load up bitcoins,usd so I wouldn't be surprised if that card had also bitusd,biteur,bitcny.. :)
That really would be the best case scenario!!!
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First of all much +5% +5% +5% +5%^ +5% +5% +5%
For the speculations sake I will guess Bitstamp. They are now preparing for their debit card where you can load up bitcoins,usd so I wouldn't be surprised if that card had also bitusd,biteur,bitcny.. :)
That would be so .. BAM^2 .. :)
it would be ...except the word "start up " is surely not anywhere remotely connected to something like Bitstamp
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"Existing exchange looking to gain an edge in the market to attract users."
Bytemaster
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Insider trading is basically one of the defining models of market micro-structure, despite being illegal in regulated markets. Assuming some proportion of insider trading in a market is the only way you can build a model to explain the price movements.
read more here: http://www.wildbunny.co.uk/blog/2014/06/24/algorithmic-trading-with-bitcoin-part-2/
In any case, it's unlikely this move is news related since nearly all crypto on coinmarketcap started moving in an up-trend at the same time, seemingly all driven from bter*.
In addition, if you want to make money if this was a news event, it's better to sell when everybody else is screaming 'buy' - basically, always do the opposite of what the majority are saying.
:)
*) correction: from btc38 :)
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Wow one piece of vague news makes you guys orgasm... I'm all for bts rising, but take off the rose glasses.
Seriously you don't think it is suspicious that the price rallied 100% one week before this was announced?
It is more suspicious that all btc38 "powered" coins are pumped and now the deposit/withdrawal are "problematic".... What if they are buying/pumping all coins with thin air only to attract more BTC deposits?
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That's a very plausible explanation of what's happening with all those crazy pumps... I really hope it's false, but I'm covering all my shorts...
Dear community, please keep us aware of what's the situation with BTC deposts at btc38 and bter... Maybe the causal relation is in the other way round, and that because too much people want to deposit they cannot keep up or something like that, but it's really concerning...
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Insider trading is basically one of the defining models of market micro-structure, despite being illegal in regulated markets. Assuming some proportion of insider trading in a market is the only way you can build a model to explain the price movements.
read more here: http://www.wildbunny.co.uk/blog/2014/06/24/algorithmic-trading-with-bitcoin-part-2/
In any case, it's unlikely this move is news related since nearly all crypto on coinmarketcap started moving in an up-trend at the same time, seemingly all driven from bter*.
In addition, if you want to make money if this was a news event, it's better to sell when everybody else is screaming 'buy' - basically, always do the opposite of what the majority are saying.
:)
*) correction: from btc38 :)
maybe not insider trading, or equity buy in. If i'm the gateway, I'd buy a crap load of whatever I'm having a partner with while it is cheap in order to execute my business partnership. Not nefarious or illegal, but just what happens in any merger or large partnership. That bump in demand feeds in to itself as others jump on the bandwagon.
If the bump comes before the news, it adds veracity to the news. It's almost unbelievable that bitshares was only valued at 10 million. You couldn't buy a start-up with 1/4 of what bitshares has done for 10 million... Doesn't mean it will be successful, just that people through there money at worse projects ;-) It also demonstrates a bit of bytemaster's liquidity problem... You couldn't buy all of bitshares for 10 million, nor sell all of bitshares for 10 million - liquidity does matter
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If the bump comes before the news, it adds veracity to the news.
You are right but it would be true if only bitshares was bumped before the news... in this case a bunch of coins where bumped in the same exact way, why?... so my guess is that the rise is not related to BM's announcement .... maybe that is good... since the great news are still not priced in current BTS price(?)... or we go to the moon, or our prize will stabilize when the speculators dump all the other coins one more time...
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To those shouting "insider trading" I can safely state that I have not bought any BTS in a long time.
Also, "insider trading" is a bogus crime right up there with "money laundering". In effect, the insider trading laws simply "re-allocate" wealth from one group of people (who arguably deserve it because they traded based upon information) to another group of people (those with dumb luck to be long, because they traded without information).
In other words insider trading is a "emotionally charged" accusation designed to appeal to the "little guy" in order to justify government intrusion and arbitrary power to selectively enforce a bogus law.
In theory someone selling a house they have lived in for 20 years is engaging in "insider trading" because they know more than the buyer. This is just how markets work and insider trading helps the markets function better.
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To those shouting "insider trading" I can safely state that I have not bought any BTS in a long time.
Also, "insider trading" is a bogus crime right up there with "money laundering". In effect, the insider trading laws simply "re-allocate" wealth from one group of people (who arguably deserve it because they traded based upon information) to another group of people (those with dumb luck to be long, because they traded without information).
In other words insider trading is a "emotionally charged" accusation designed to appeal to the "little guy" in order to justify government intrusion and arbitrary power to selectively enforce a bogus law.
In theory someone selling a house they have lived in for 20 years is engaging in "insider trading" because they know more than the buyer. This is just how markets work and insider trading helps the markets function better.
So would you deny or agree that it would be insider trading if the exchange bought BTS in anticipation of this announcement? If you told anyone about this in private and they made a trade, that is insider trading.
Just because you don't believe in insider trading doesn't mean that you don't have to abide by the law. The SEC has been opening insider trading cases in regards to privately held companies for the last several years.
Maybe the recent price action was just a coincidence because other coins have been rising...
"Coincidence is the word we use when we can't see the levers and pulleys."
Emma Bull
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Just because you don't believe in insider trading doesn't mean that you don't have to abide by the law. The SEC has been opening insider trading cases in regards to privately held companies for the last several years.
Crypto markets are unregulated anyway, so not sure what bearing that has.
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Lets just be happy the price has increased to some degree and rejoice that we will soon have this exchange, its great news. The team has been working hard and this is a little victory.
IMO, down with the 'insider trading' nonsense and let yourself be happy for a moment. We'll have more celebrations in June and i bet a whole bunch more 'insider trading' will occur. Come to think of it, ... i might by some more bts later today based on some leaked information that the devs have been hard at work - sshhh.. don't tell anyone. : ::)
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+5% +5% This is great news.. we had many hints of good news coming in June. I am glad I bought some last month, sadly not enough ;). From now on... all the way is up.
Everyone would have notice a couple of bumps for all the coins @ btc38, but we all know that BitShares is not just a random coin.
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To those shouting "insider trading" I can safely state that I have not bought any BTS in a long time.
Also, "insider trading" is a bogus crime right up there with "money laundering". In effect, the insider trading laws simply "re-allocate" wealth from one group of people (who arguably deserve it because they traded based upon information) to another group of people (those with dumb luck to be long, because they traded without information).
In other words insider trading is a "emotionally charged" accusation designed to appeal to the "little guy" in order to justify government intrusion and arbitrary power to selectively enforce a bogus law.
In theory someone selling a house they have lived in for 20 years is engaging in "insider trading" because they know more than the buyer. This is just how markets work and insider trading helps the markets function better.
So would you deny or agree that it would be insider trading if the exchange bought BTS in anticipation of this announcement? If you told anyone about this in private and they made a trade, that is insider trading.
Just because you don't believe in insider trading doesn't mean that you don't have to abide by the law. The SEC has been opening insider trading cases in regards to privately held companies for the last several years.
Maybe the recent price action was just a coincidence because other coins have been rising...
"Coincidence is the word we use when we can't see the levers and pulleys."
Emma Bull
Why would anyone think this is some huge good news anyway ?
Why would anyone assumes the barrier to entry is the major reason that people don't want to buy BTS in the first place ? And they would suddenly buy more once they can buy it easily ?
There are tons of USD exchange for many coins already , including PPC . I don't see them going up .
The more you stress this "good news" , the more i want to laugh . Sorry . :o
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To those shouting "insider trading" I can safely state that I have not bought any BTS in a long time.
Also, "insider trading" is a bogus crime right up there with "money laundering". In effect, the insider trading laws simply "re-allocate" wealth from one group of people (who arguably deserve it because they traded based upon information) to another group of people (those with dumb luck to be long, because they traded without information).
In other words insider trading is a "emotionally charged" accusation designed to appeal to the "little guy" in order to justify government intrusion and arbitrary power to selectively enforce a bogus law.
In theory someone selling a house they have lived in for 20 years is engaging in "insider trading" because they know more than the buyer. This is just how markets work and insider trading helps the markets function better.
So would you deny or agree that it would be insider trading if the exchange bought BTS in anticipation of this announcement? If you told anyone about this in private and they made a trade, that is insider trading.
Just because you don't believe in insider trading doesn't mean that you don't have to abide by the law. The SEC has been opening insider trading cases in regards to privately held companies for the last several years.
Maybe the recent price action was just a coincidence because other coins have been rising...
"Coincidence is the word we use when we can't see the levers and pulleys."
Emma Bull
Considering BTS is not a security nor a privately or publicly held company
Illegal insider trading refers generally to buying or selling a security, in breach of a fiduciary duty or other relationship of trust and confidence, while in possession of material, nonpublic information about the security.
Besides, I shared this news with the forum within 1 hour after having things worked out.
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Illegal insider trading refers generally to buying or selling a security, in breach of a fiduciary duty or other relationship of trust and confidence, while in possession of material, nonpublic information about the security.
Besides, I shared this news with the forum within 1 hour after having things worked out.
I can confirm that BM has not posted anything about this in any of the channels I am aware of (including, IRC, slack channels, skype channels) prior to the announcement in the OP
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If you are into crypto.. this is not big news.. but for everyone that is afraid of crypto due to the volatility, the simplicity to able buy bitUSD , bitEUR, bitCNY and use them for trading is huge. Combine that with the shopping carts developed, the 10 seconds confirmation, etc. We need bitGBP !
Insider trading makes no sense, BM has a lot of BTS, he just wants to see its the value grow for its merits not for pumps.
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I want desperately tonyk's market analysis now :)
Step in... please!
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I am certain it is a great time to either buy or sell BTS.
I am too big of a fan boy to trust my judgment and/or consider it objective...
So act accordingly.
[I can provide better clues if I knew if this exchange is something meaningful (as in big enough for the people working for it to know its name), or just a start up with big dreams and hopes].
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Just trading BitUsd?
I do not think this is a big thing, unless the exchange adopt it as a deposit way.
We can trade BitUSD in shapeshift、metaexchange now.
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Just trading BitUsd?
I do not think this is a big thing, unless the exchange adopt it as a deposit way.
We can trade BitUSD in shapeshift、metaexchange now.
Soon you will have an exchange that you can wire transfer USD to from anywhere in the world and then trade for BitUSD. Also supported BitCNY and BitEUR.
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Just trading BitUsd?
I do not think this is a big thing, unless the exchange adopt it as a deposit way.
We can trade BitUSD in shapeshift、metaexchange now.
it's all about FIAT. you can't send USD to Metaexchange, can you? :)
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Combine that with the shopping carts developed, the 10 seconds confirmation, etc. We need bitGBP !
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I read a future BitShares upgrade will also reduce confirmation times to nearly 1 second. :) Regardless, I'll be moving my bankUSD to bitUSD so I can generate an interest.. either through marker making or bitBonds.
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I wasn't shouting insider trading, actually saying it could be a legitimate "insider" purchase.
I do object to insider trading when (1) the assumption between parties is that you are acting in a fair and transparent manner and (2) one party using asymmetric information (that should not exist) to profit from the second.
Good insider trading, "home depot is my client, so I know them intimately. Their sales have sky-rocketed (public info); I'm going to go buy real estate since it is a leading indicator of demand"
Bad insider trading, "My company promises to release sales information on every Friday to the public. Thus, the public trades with the knowledge and agreement with me that I share sales information on Fridays. I know I have GREAT sales this week, so I buy stock on Thursday before releasing good numbers on Friday." Even without regulations, the market should "punish" companies that do that (price in increased risk into the value of a share), but we also have regulations to enforce that punishment since and efficient market works best when there is symmetric information.
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Dang, I shouldve sold the news. :P
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Dang, I shouldve sold the news. :P
never mind , the rise wasn't at all connected to this news in the first place .
also , this is a perfect example of a good news wasted right on the edge of a downward turn(pressure point) . Next time when the exchange actually opens business , the market won't be moved a bit by the actual news I think .
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We all get a little bit more time to buy cheap BTS.
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wire transfer USD
Does this mean I can go to Western Union and wire transfer money to "joe blow" @ said Exchange or does that mean I can ACH transfer from my bank account or actually use a debit or credit card to purchase bitUSD?
There is a huge difference there.
Still, its a step in the right direction nonetheless. A step about 8 months behind Sorry, couldn't resist ;).
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Dang, I shouldve sold the news. :P
:)
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And thanks again to everyone who thought that the devs were selling and moving to the Cayman Islands. with all their insider profits.
So, are you saying that's been canceled?
****! ... I knew I should have signed up for the BITN. (<-- 100 BTS to the first person to correctly figure out the acronym).
Such is life (http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/62637710.jpg).
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And thanks again to everyone who thought that the devs were selling and moving to the Cayman Islands. with all their insider profits.
So, are you saying that's been canceled?
****! ... I knew I should have signed up for the BITN. (<-- 100 BTS to the first person to correctly figure out the acronym).
Such is life (http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/62637710.jpg).
BitShares Insider Trading Newsletter?
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BitShares Insider Trading Newsletter?
winner winner chicken dinner! what's yer addy/name to send your winnings?
btw, don't forget to sign up for the newsletter. ;)
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Hehe, I want to subscribe to that newsletter!
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BitShares Insider Trading Newsletter?
winner winner chicken dinner! what's yer addy/name to send your winnings?
btw, don't forget to sign up for the newsletter. ;)
Ha! Troglodactyl, same as forum name.
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And thanks again to everyone who thought that the devs were selling and moving to the Cayman Islands with all their insider profits.
So, are you saying that's been canceled?
FukTheLemon:
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AWESOME!
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(http://i.imgur.com/WMjbYjX.png)
There has GOT to be a great caption for this picture...
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(http://i.imgur.com/WMjbYjX.png)
There has GOT to be a great caption for this picture...
not what you're looking for / brain tangent ...
"Aha. Look what I've created. I have made DAC's!"
"Hey, you want to hear something funny? My dentist's name is James Ripple."
"BITSHARES!"
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(http://i.imgur.com/WMjbYjX.png)
There has GOT to be a great caption for this picture...
The air merger got to it! :P
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(http://i.imgur.com/WMjbYjX.png)
There has GOT to be a great caption for this picture...
Growing a pair of balls....... half way there!
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(http://i.imgur.com/WMjbYjX.png)
There has GOT to be a great caption for this picture...
BitShares, your only friend when stranded in a deserted economy.
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BitShares, your only friend when stranded in a deserted economy.
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Bitshares technology is clearly superior to Ripple labs XRP ledger. From the consensus / security protocol to the bitshare (share not token). And where Bitshares is going: BitAssets. I'm still a believer. Congratulations to the bitshares team for doing the convincing.
Having fiat gateway won't solve the problems of bitAssets which is on the creation / supply side. But that's okay for now. Bitshares is making up for lost ground.
This is Awesome +5% +5% +5%
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hope that is not big thing 2.0
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Well look at this... Giant run up in price prior to a bunch of announcements, then a small pump after the announcements by the last suckers buying, followed by a 25% dump within a day. Sold to you...
But just remember that there was no info disseminated privately before the announcement to a privileged few...
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Well look at this... Giant run up in price prior to a bunch of announcements, then a small pump after the announcements by the last suckers buying, followed by a 25% dump within a day. Sold to you...
But just remember that there was no info disseminated privately before the announcement to a privileged few...
It would seem that if there was info and people bought on it that they lost money and those that sold without knowledge of the info made money.
Ultimately people will see what they want to see.
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No... They sold after the announcement when the price rallied to $.008 after acquiring it lower and running up the price throughout last week. Just a coincidence that the buyers disappear within hours after the announcement?? Ok
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Interestingly, this wasn't even part of what we have been not-so-subtly hinting at in our newsletters and staff meeting reports for the past two months. This was not originally part of our planned Summer Announcements.
It was an opportunity that showed up on our radars for the first time earlier this month, got negotiated, and announced within one hour of the final agreement.
Those who ridiculed the early warnings about other impending good news are now the ones who are complaining that they had no early warnings.
I'd suggest you go back and read all the posts that we have made in the past two months.
Only the terminally skeptical nay-sayers missed out.
And all the planned good news is yet to come.
:)
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It was an opportunity that showed up on our radars for the first time earlier this month
... thanks to @cass ... (at least that's what I guess has happend) :)
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No... They sold after the announcement when the price rallied to $.008 after acquiring it lower and running up the price throughout last week. Just a coincidence that the buyers disappear within hours after the announcement?? Ok
Wtf is wrong with people here... You bitch when price falls and you bitch when price rises. You bitch when there's a new release and you bitch about the current release.
Bunch of angry bitches
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I don't understand why all the concern over these dinky short term ups and downs anyway. Insider trading or not, if you've been watching crypto for longer than a year then you know that this is par for the course as a newborn crypto matures, and you know that no matter what you do you're not going to out-trade the whales, whoever they may be.
jay, don't you see the long term potential? if you buy and hold you aren't going to give two shits someday if you bought at 3 cents or 50 cents. that my humble opinion at least. That's how I can stomach the thought that I've lost money on my overall investment so far. I don't give a shit, early bitcoin miners lost a lot of money on their electricity costs just to produce 10,000 bitcoins that at the time was worth 2 pizzas when a price finally got established.
this is a game of patience.
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Bears going really mad or can their behavior be explained?
All altcoins had a major pump the last week but some people insist on ignoring this fact. The bitshares bears that were caught with their pants down tried to convince themselves that it was not their fault that they lost money but someone else was to blame! (It happens all the time, its not my fault I'm telling you! HE has to be blamed!) so they created a nice little fairy tale story that makes them feel better. There is nothing wrong with that, I can understand their pain.
The fact that all altcoins are down today is also ignored because this makes their little cute fairy tail sound stupid.
In my opinion this pump probably had nothing to do with bitshares, for one moment I thought that we had some kind of a mtgox incident and people were trying to get their funds out in the form of altcoins but I don't believe this is the case. In any case I foresee a major rise in the bts price a few months(1-3) after the early June announcement, probably...
(http://i.imgur.com/qBu1mxT.jpg)
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Obviously I'm not going to win this battle as anyone who may have bought bts with knowledge that an exchange would be integrating BTS isn't going to admit it here. And i'm realizing internet battles might be the least productive thing in the world. I'm also not a BTS bear, I got lucky and bought a bunch when it was trading around 9mil. But if a BTS bull like me is bringing this up, what do you think people in other communities or anti bts people might say? Insider trading happens everyday on wall street and many never get caught. Its the repeat offenders that do. If it wasn't the core dev team making the announcement I don't think it would be that big of a deal, but they have direct control over BTS until 1.0 is released. We just saw Ross Ulbricht get life in prison for a grey list a crimes and creating a website. Don't give someone a reason to investigate the dev's.
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If I know that within the next month I will bring a couple of millionaires and make them buy BTS, obviously I will buy lots of cheap BTS now. Is that inside trading? Do I even need to announce this publicly? I don't think so.. You do realize that Bitshares is not an owned company by someone right? Anyone could make a deal with an external exchange and do what BM did with them. The fact that BM achieved that is because he do cares more about this project than the rest of us..He is not even obliged to announce that, yet he did announce it within 1 hour and you still believe this is inside trading? lololololol....
Do you seriously also think that this is a dump after a pump and not just a beartrap?? Do you seriously think that someone like BM or anyone else being here more than a year would sell 1 BTS at these levels? Most people in here are for the loong ride and these levels are just good buying opportunities that we never thought would come again..
By the way, I will bring a couple of millionaires within the next month in the Bitshares so I am announcing this now so you don't accuse me for inside trading next month..
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By the way, I will bring a couple of millionaires within the next month in the Bitshares so I am announcing this now so you don't accuse me for inside trading next month..
Is that a gang of bulls I see in the distance? My eyesight is not what it used to be :o
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By the way, I will bring a couple of millionaires within the next month in the Bitshares so I am announcing this now so you don't accuse me for inside trading next month..
Please bring them before I get margin called again :P
PS. Beside my joke, I take mf-tzos words very seriously, I know he is capable to do what he is saying ;)
Sent from my ALCATEL ONE TOUCH 997D
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Its a correction of the fact that all these coins went up 100% in two weeks.
It feels like some of you guys have never seen crypto markets before. Things move quickly both up and down.
As soon as something thats going up fast runs out of momentum it goes down at least part of the way. I thought BTS would get to .06 CNY before it happened, not .052. At least I managed to sell some at .046 and buy back 10% lower.
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Its a correction of the fact that all these coins went up 100% in two weeks.
It feels like some of you guys have never seen crypto markets before. Things move quickly both up and down.
As soon as something thats going up fast runs out of momentum it goes down at least part of the way. I thought BTS would get to .06 CNY before it happened, not .052. At least I managed to sell some at .046 and buy back 10% lower.
Now that I think about it, that's actually pretty cool. It means we're being exposed to people outside of the Bitcoin realm.
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Its a correction of the fact that all these coins went up 100% in two weeks.
It feels like some of you guys have never seen crypto markets before. Things move quickly both up and down.
As soon as something thats going up fast runs out of momentum it goes down at least part of the way. I thought BTS would get to .06 CNY before it happened, not .052. At least I managed to sell some at .046 and buy back 10% lower.
This. Every other rationale is nonsense. Markets pump, markets correct. How it works.
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I do not understand you lil_jay890. The rumour was made public in these series of posts on 5/07
I would like to ask: What is the big problem with the current system which requires this change?
Why does this change need to be prioritized now, when we are desperate for things like a stable client?
I think we should avoid creating a huge overhand of vesting BTS which people know will be unlocked at some point in the future. This could make people think "Well, if I invest in BTS now, I'm going to get dumped on in the future as soon as those shares become unlocked".
The paid worker proposal seems to be specifically tied to the 'project' BM is proposing. So it is most likely a workaround for VC funding.
Personally I don't think I'll be a fan unless the VC is also a gateway or that's in the mix too.
;)
The rumour is it is actually itBit !!! https://www.itbit.com/
Nice try. :P
But, itbit is pretty bullish for Bitcoin and the whole sector imo.
I do not know...judge for yourself.
Ever since the time when we all thought the on/off ramps are in the pipeline last year, BM is saying that "the problem with all partners is they are startup(s) too, so they have to go through regulation step and licensing. The current once do not want extra trouble...and I do not blame them."
UIA allowing regulatory compliance of future partners is arguable the most heavily developed feature for the last what?... any way a lot of months...
Stan start talking about an exiting times this summer, but he cannot actually talk about them. BM is exited about affiliate program + privatized bitAssets (and I guess the said UIAs).
BM talked about a week or so ago with somebody integrating BTS on their (exchange/gateway do not remember exactly).
BM gives the firs clue (in a ;) form) it is a gateway (at least partly).
bitBIT gets its license.
I become aware of this this rumour - itBit is the partner BM is hinting about and Stan can't talk about....
Now it seems you are crying wolf because you did not believe both BM and the village idiot ? I dnk, public forum is as public as it gets in rumours...
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Now it seems you are crying wolf because you did not believe both BM and the village idiot ?
You can't just give away my title so flippantly. :-\
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Obviously I'm not going to win this battle as anyone who may have bought bts with knowledge that an exchange would be integrating BTS isn't going to admit it here. And i'm realizing internet battles might be the least productive thing in the world. I'm also not a BTS bear, I got lucky and bought a bunch when it was trading around 9mil. But if a BTS bull like me is bringing this up, what do you think people in other communities or anti bts people might say? Insider trading happens everyday on wall street and many never get caught. Its the repeat offenders that do. If it wasn't the core dev team making the announcement I don't think it would be that big of a deal, but they have direct control over BTS until 1.0 is released. We just saw Ross Ulbricht get life in prison for a grey list a crimes and creating a website. Don't give someone a reason to investigate the dev's.
Ordering people to be killed isn't grey.. it's black and white: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/read-transcript-silk-roads-boss-ordering-5-assassinations/
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Obviously I'm not going to win this battle as anyone who may have bought bts with knowledge that an exchange would be integrating BTS isn't going to admit it here. And i'm realizing internet battles might be the least productive thing in the world. I'm also not a BTS bear, I got lucky and bought a bunch when it was trading around 9mil. But if a BTS bull like me is bringing this up, what do you think people in other communities or anti bts people might say? Insider trading happens everyday on wall street and many never get caught. Its the repeat offenders that do. If it wasn't the core dev team making the announcement I don't think it would be that big of a deal, but they have direct control over BTS until 1.0 is released. We just saw Ross Ulbricht get life in prison for a grey list a crimes and creating a website. Don't give someone a reason to investigate the dev's.
Ordering people to be killed isn't grey.. it's black and white: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/read-transcript-silk-roads-boss-ordering-5-assassinations/
There must have been some gray area because they did not file those charges against him, it was used more as propaganda against him.
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From the point you want to make someone an example with a harder sentence, it's not justice any more. Everyone's (should be) equal.
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Obviously I'm not going to win this battle as anyone who may have bought bts with knowledge that an exchange would be integrating BTS isn't going to admit it here. And i'm realizing internet battles might be the least productive thing in the world. I'm also not a BTS bear, I got lucky and bought a bunch when it was trading around 9mil. But if a BTS bull like me is bringing this up, what do you think people in other communities or anti bts people might say? Insider trading happens everyday on wall street and many never get caught. Its the repeat offenders that do. If it wasn't the core dev team making the announcement I don't think it would be that big of a deal, but they have direct control over BTS until 1.0 is released. We just saw Ross Ulbricht get life in prison for a grey list a crimes and creating a website. Don't give someone a reason to investigate the dev's.
Ordering people to be killed isn't grey.. it's black and white: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/read-transcript-silk-roads-boss-ordering-5-assassinations/
I was all for supporting Ross until I learned about the assassination orders.
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Its a correction of the fact that all these coins went up 100% in two weeks.
It feels like some of you guys have never seen crypto markets before. Things move quickly both up and down.
As soon as something thats going up fast runs out of momentum it goes down at least part of the way. I thought BTS would get to .06 CNY before it happened, not .052. At least I managed to sell some at .046 and buy back 10% lower.
The great thing about Bitshares is that you can effectively short BTS by going long a bitasset. If you ever think a 100% couple week jump is kind of crazy, start using the windfall gains to buy assets...you'll support the community and protect yourself against subsequent drops.
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Its a correction of the fact that all these coins went up 100% in two weeks.
It feels like some of you guys have never seen crypto markets before. Things move quickly both up and down.
As soon as something thats going up fast runs out of momentum it goes down at least part of the way. I thought BTS would get to .06 CNY before it happened, not .052. At least I managed to sell some at .046 and buy back 10% lower.
The great thing about Bitshares is that you can effectively short BTS by going long a bitasset. If you ever think a 100% couple week jump is kind of crazy, start using the windfall gains to buy assets...you'll support the community and protect yourself against subsequent drops.
Yes!! This.
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Any financial partnerships that improves access and liquidity is welcome news - thank you for your work!
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plot twist, the exchange is coinomat
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plot twist, the exchange is coinomat
Haha its not them :)
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plot twist, the exchange is coinomat
Haha its not them :)
I know, otherwise it would be the biggest troll ahah, either way, if we get in it would be nice
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plot twist, the exchange is coinomat
Haha its not them :)
I know, otherwise it would be the biggest troll ahah, either way, if we get in it would be nice
Looking good so far. The BTS community has really rallied!
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I was all for supporting Ross until I learned about the assassination orders.
afaik, there were 2-3 other people using the DPR account.
afaik, no one close thinks Ross Ulbricht would ever issue a hit on some one. this could have something to do with why it's referred to as an 'uncharged crime' which are now 'overt acts', so it can influence a jury (and the public).
afaik, those close (and apparently the prosecution, otherwise there would be charges) think the other 2-3 with access to the DPR account could/would 'type' an egotistical murder for hire plot online.
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I was all for supporting Ross until I learned about the assassination orders.
afaik, there were 2-3 other people using the DPR account.
afaik, no one close thinks Ross Ulbricht would ever issue a hit on some one. this could have something to do with why it's referred to as an 'uncharged crime' which are now 'overt acts', so it can influence a jury (and the public).
afaik, those close (and apparently the prosecution, otherwise there would be charges) think the other 2-3 with access to the DPR account could/would 'type' an egotistical murder for hire plot online.
Good points! +5%
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I was all for supporting Ross until I learned about the assassination orders.
afaik, there were 2-3 other people using the DPR account.
afaik, no one close thinks Ross Ulbricht would ever issue a hit on some one. this could have something to do with why it's referred to as an 'uncharged crime' which are now 'overt acts', so it can influence a jury (and the public).
afaik, those close (and apparently the prosecution, otherwise there would be charges) think the other 2-3 with access to the DPR account could/would 'type' an egotistical murder for hire plot online.
No. They did not charge him because he was entrapped by officers who were extorting Bitcoin from him. He case would have fallen apart if they kept the murder for hire charges. Instead they dropped them and then the judge wouldn't allow any evidence of the officer mis behavior into trial. Which is why no one outside of the court knew about the extortion until after the case rested.
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To publish the buyers and sellers names and adresses would have caused a lot of pain and maybe death for some people. So why not kill the one man who is responsible for it?
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To publish the buyers and sellers names and adresses would have caused a lot of pain and maybe death for some people. So why not kill the one man who is responsible for it?
bc SR was supposed to be about taking narco from the violence of traditional black markets. besides, it's also just not right to execute someone bc of something they may, or may not, do/say.
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I was all for supporting Ross until I learned about the assassination orders.
afaik, there were 2-3 other people using the DPR account.
afaik, no one close thinks Ross Ulbricht would ever issue a hit on some one. this could have something to do with why it's referred to as an 'uncharged crime' which are now 'overt acts', so it can influence a jury (and the public).
afaik, those close (and apparently the prosecution, otherwise there would be charges) think the other 2-3 with access to the DPR account could/would 'type' an egotistical murder for hire plot online.
No. They did not charge him because he was entrapped by officers who were extorting Bitcoin from him. He case would have fallen apart if they kept the murder for hire charges. Instead they dropped them and then the judge wouldn't allow any evidence of the officer mis behavior into trial. Which is why no one outside of the court knew about the extortion until after the case rested.
Criminals trying criminals. Awesome. What a joke.
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plot twist, the exchange is coinomat
Haha its not them :)
I know, otherwise it would be the biggest troll ahah, either way, if we get in it would be nice
Looking good so far. The BTS community has really rallied!
BitUSD will be added to coinomat in June!
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16649.0.html
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Criminals trying criminals. Awesome. What a joke.
yeah but the criminals with the most power like to keep their monopoly.
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To publish the buyers and sellers names and adresses would have caused a lot of pain and maybe death for some people. So why not kill the one man who is responsible for it?
bc SR was supposed to be about taking narco from the violence of traditional black markets. besides, it's also just not right to execute someone bc of something they may, or may not, do/say.
I am also not for killing people but could see such a case as self defense. Bec. SR was peaceful, one person, who allegedly showed evidence of the copy of the server, was willing and able to destroy the lifes of peaceful people.
So you kill this person to prevent a larger damage.
But whatever. I am no expert and have no idea what was really going on.
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To publish the buyers and sellers names and adresses would have caused a lot of pain and maybe death for some people. So why not kill the one man who is responsible for it?
bc SR was supposed to be about taking narco from the violence of traditional black markets. besides, it's also just not right to execute someone bc of something they may, or may not, do/say.
I am also not for killing people but could see such a case as self defense. Bec. SR was peaceful, one person, who allegedly showed evidence of the copy of the server, was willing and able to destroy the lifes of peaceful people.
So you kill this person to prevent a larger damage.
But whatever. I am no expert and have no idea what was really going on.
ha, yeah i'm armchair quarterbacking here knowing maybe 1% of the actual story.