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General Discussion / Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« on: December 21, 2015, 10:41:32 pm »
Count me in!

 +5%

Welcome to the club @complexring !

So far for 51-60 we have:
51. Tuck Fheman
52. jakub
53. oakmaster
54. mint chocolate chip
55. iHashFury
56. rafter
57. complexring
58.
59.
60.

Three spots left for the next 10 in the Founder's Club!  Just let me know of your support and interest in being part of the club!

BTW Please let me know what you guys think of the intro video if you haven't already seen it at: http://www.bitcash.org

If you think it's cool please like, comment, share, subscribe.. Thanks!

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General Discussion / Re: Mutual Aid Societies
« on: December 21, 2015, 10:37:03 pm »
I reject the idea that having hurt no one, where no individual can make a claim of damages against me, that I may be subject to the violent coercive aggression of a state or government.
So you support drunk drivers, as long as they don't hurt anyone? I think that taking risks with other people's lives is undesirable for society.

I fully agree and I won't join any society that bails people out for stupid shit. That's just money down a hole and it does nothing to make the world any better. Some rules enforce an important code of behavior that society has set, even when (thankfully) there's been no harm done in the immediate instance. I don't always agree with where the lines are drawn; often they are more conservative than I would like. But I can respect that without some such guidelines, some people would crap everywhere and make the world a lot uglier for everyone else. Civilization has its trade-offs, but the alternatives aren't very pretty.

I understand your more measured approach Donkeypong, but to answer you and Chronos:

I don't support drunk driving, but if someone does drive drunk and there are no accidents or harm that's fine.  If someone is being rude  it doesn't mean I support rude behavior.  Does it mean there should be a law against rude behavior?  If so should some people in these forums pay a fine to the government?

Hence it's important to focus on the consequences.  If you drive drunk and you harm another there is a consequence of your action.  It's the same consequences of harming someone when you are not drunk.  There are some people who are just bad or negligent drivers.

In old common law and tort law focusing on consequences would probably be standard principle.   You can challenge others for emotional distress, but that would most likely be a tiny fraction of the compensation you can claim compared to physical harm. 

If you want to change cultural habits and highlight the dangers of drunk driving and make those actions unbecoming in the society that's fine, but you don't need statutory laws for that.  Your just giving up more power to the those that are in government.   Next time you are stopped during these holiday seasons for a DUI checkpoint and are asked to stand on one foot and touch your nose think a little bit more if that's really to protect people from drunk drivers.  Furthermore when a TSA agent starts touching your crotch or your children's at the airport, think if that really is to protect you from terrorists.  In the end the primary benefit for those in government to get public displays of authority is to condition the public into submission.   I mean if they can molest little girls in public at the airport how can you not think those in government are the boss?  In the end it's up to you.  Want to stand on one leg and touch your noise.  Go ahead and obey.  If you have the TSA touching your crotch.  Go ahead and obey.  If you see that happen to an old lady or little girl.  Go ahead and keep silent.  Then we'll all know who the boss is. 

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General Discussion / Re: Hello, TCNY
« on: December 21, 2015, 09:37:05 pm »
I have updated the bts_tools package to now also publish feed price for TCNY with an MSSR of 100.1%. My witness 'wackou' is already publishing it (see https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/asset/TCNY)

Here is the annoucement of the update: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19537.msg267686.html#msg267686

Thanks for the update.  Look forward to seeing how things develop. 

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitshares E-sports Tournament [ANN]
« on: December 20, 2015, 10:41:24 pm »
This is a great demographic to go after.   You guys have done a very good job so far developing Sharebits so look forward to seeing what you guys come up with.  We're looking for products/services for people to buy with bitCash so I'll PM you about collaboration.  Thanks.

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« on: December 20, 2015, 07:32:43 pm »
Thanks!

Thanks for the support!

The video is good. Fresh and cool and fun. Thanks for the shares and success from dirty thirty

I like that.. the 'dirty thirty'.. cool.  Thanks for the support!

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« on: December 20, 2015, 09:35:08 am »
To the next 20 in the Founder's club!

1. @cass - sent
2. @Pheonike - sent
3. @void  - sent
4. @ebit - sent
5. @DMo09 - sent
6. @puppies - sent
7. @emailtooaj - sent
8. @merockstar - sent
9. @donkeypong - sent
10. @roadscape -sent
11. @Louis -sent
12. @fav -sent
13. @Ben Mason -sent
14. @Bhuz -sent
15. @Frodo -sent
16. @spartako -sent
17. @cube -sent
18. @tonyk -sent
19. @TravelAsia -sent
20. @lafona -sent
21. @testz -sent
22. @rgcrypto -sent
23. @Bunker Chain Labs -sent
24. @EstefanTT -sent
25. @Pairmike -sent
26. @CalibiYau -sent
27. @lovejoy -sent
28. @JWF -sent
29. @fuzzy -sent
30. @Akado -sent


To the next 20 in the BitCash Founder's Club!

31. @bang-king #sharebits bank-king 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
32. @xeroc #sharebits xeroc 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
33. @38PTSWarrior #sharebits 38PTSWarrior 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
34. @konelectric #sharebits konelectric 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
35. @hadrian #sharebits hadrian 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
36. @carpet ride #sharebits "carpet ride" 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
37. @Chris4210X #sharebits Chris4210X 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
38. @montpelerin #sharebits montpelerin 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
39. @mf-tzo #sharebits mf-tzo 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
40. @aloha #sharebits aloha 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
41. @alt #sharebits alt 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
42. @mangou007 #sharebits mangou007 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
43. @well.attenuated #sharebits well.attenuated 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
44. @DestBest #sharebits DestBest 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
45. @jaran #sharebits jaran 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
46. @onceuponatime #sharebits onceuponatime 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
47. @abit #sharebits abit 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
48. @tbone #sharebits tbone 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
49. @dichalcog3nid3 #sharebits dichalcog3nid3 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS
50. @valzav #sharebits valzav 20 GIFTS.BCSHAREPTS

Thanks for your support! 

BTW Please let me know what you guys think of the intro video if you haven't already seen it at: http://www.bitcash.org

If you think it's cool please like, comment, share, subscribe.. Thanks!

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« on: December 20, 2015, 09:05:03 am »
Thanks merivercap

Thanks for the support!

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Welcome to the forum @Ray !

 I like your theme with Franklin & Jackson etc...

Scanning art and creating a unique identifiers as proof-of-existence is possible.. here is an article I read a while back:
https://medium.com/@anarchoass/a-proof-of-existence-without-aliens-ghosts-or-god-1814283b5d06#.e3i4v141q


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General Discussion / Re: Crypto-currencies vs. Crypto Equities
« on: December 20, 2015, 05:51:55 am »
Yeah if you read Nick Szabo's work Shelling Out: Origins of Money and the ideas of collectibles, unforgeable costliness, the history of the clock, time wages etc.  It's very insightful.    Time and cost is not always an accurate reflection of value, but they can be used as a proxy for value.  In Bitcoin's case you have a measure of time (10 minute confirmation times) & cost (electricity).   Hence even seemingly wasteful work can still provide psychological validation.  I just think Szabo's theories are fascinating. 

We can try to be more of a crypto-currency, but I think it's ok that Bitshares is more of a business/platform/DAC.  Companies and platforms that provide lots of value can grow exponentially in value so investors should be happy.  If we maintain focus as a decentralized exchange and payments system we should do well.   Sometimes it just takes time to get people fully on board, but we're in very good position when you look at the blockchain landscape. 

I think we should find ways to work together and complement the strengths of other systems such as Bitcoin & Ethereum & Maidsafe.  Right now I feel like a pariah when I go to Bitcoin meetups and some of it is because of Bitcoin maximalism, sometimes it's a product of historical Bitshares maximalism, and sometimes it's just that we haven't communicated our value proposition the right way especially when it comes to DPOS.     Anyways I think it would be great to work together with other ecosystems more closely, especially Bitcoin. 


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General Discussion / Re: Supply Chain Management
« on: December 20, 2015, 04:55:25 am »
I agree there is a lot of potential here. 

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General Discussion / Re: Mutual Aid Societies
« on: December 20, 2015, 04:41:12 am »
I think this will resonate with libertarian circles so I can help test the idea there.   It's not going to be easy as Samupaha mentioned, but I think it will be a good experiment.   Also I like the idea of going for libertarians because I think we can get more of them into bitcoin/bitshares technology and once they get in they'll be strong advocates. 

Another quote from Peter Kropotkin which is relevant to the philosophical, biological, and societal underpinnings of mutual aid.

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A soon as we study animals — not in laboratories and museums only, but in the forest and prairie, in the steppe and in the mountains — we at once perceive that though there is an immense amount of warfare and extermination going on amidst various species, and especially amidst various classes of animals, there is, at the same time, as much, or perhaps even more, of mutual support, mutual aid, and mutual defence amidst animals belonging to the same species or, at least, to the same society. Sociability is as much a law of nature as mutual struggle. Of course it would be extremely difficult to estimate, however roughly, the relative numerical importance of both these series of facts. But if we resort to an indirect test, and ask Nature: "Who are the fittest: those who are continually at war with each other, or those who support one another?" we at once see that those animals which acquire habits of mutual aid are undoubtedly the fittest. They have more chances to survive, and they attain, in their respective classes, the highest development and bodily organization. If the numberless facts which can be brought forward to support this view are taken into account, we may safely say that mutual aid is as much a law of animal life as mutual struggle; but that as a factor of evolution, it most probably has a far greater importance, inasmuch as it favors the development of such habits and characters as insure the maintenance and further development of the species, together with the greatest amount of welfare and enjoyment of life for the individual, with the least waste of energy.

-Mutual Aid as a Factor in Evolution, by Peter Kropotkin

Nice quote @lovejoy ... haven't read much of Kropotkin, but very good insight.

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« on: December 20, 2015, 03:46:48 am »
this is an odd warning, popped up after I hit like

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This video is unlisted. Be considerate and think twice before sharing.

Oh.  I had the video unlisted.  I'll just make it public.  Thanks!

gotcha. I was thinking youtube sanction before user error lol.

thanks for the uia.

Yeah I would have suspected Youtube too.. but Youtube has been good so far...wasn't quite sure how they would treat the video/music etc.... but since it's just being monetized by the artist all is good....  I was actually keeping it unlisted so I could test and get feedback, but my Adobe Premiere Pro free trial ran out so it's better I just run with it.  lol.    Thanks for the support!

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« on: December 20, 2015, 12:23:50 am »
@merivercap Thank you for this gift!

Thank you for the support! 

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« on: December 20, 2015, 12:23:20 am »
this is an odd warning, popped up after I hit like

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This video is unlisted. Be considerate and think twice before sharing.

Oh.  I had the video unlisted.  I'll just make it public.  Thanks!

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« on: December 19, 2015, 11:26:23 pm »
Thanks merivercap

No problem.  Thank you! 

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