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There is nothing divided, there are some people that simple don't get it and they are the minority, lets see how many pages and how many new threads it will take until they finally understand. I could say that there is also a possibility that some of those voices are from competitors or "third parties" that wanted to create themselves a superDAC and now they see their plans ruined because they will have to compete with Invictus, it's not hard to imagine a "SuperBitshares" scamcoin that offers "everything" plus it is called bitcoin3.0 and bla bla bla bla....
It's really funny if you try to imagine this minority as miners of bitcoin and Gavin Andresen trying to convince them that they have to change POW to DPOS, POS or something else. LOL!!!
A House Divided24" If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25" If a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26" If Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but he is finished!…We must unite as soon as possible, to be able to stand...If you think about it deeper, bytemaster has done all of this, to have as all united as an end result!He want us united in the long term and not only at the early days... if you know what I mean...I am ALL IN for... A House UNITED !!!
You seem to missed my point...It's not a job for you to fork the code,you just need to let 3rd think you would "if they do not give 20% to pts and ags". It's not for you , it's for them.You don't need to ground a child for small time shoplifting ,you just need to let them think they would.And once again , I stress my point : When I'm talking about AGS and PTS,I meant the original one,not their stake in BTS.Toast also said something like future 3rd dac should honer AGS-PTS instead of BTS.I've been watch you guys trying to fix this pain in the ass situation,I understand your frustration . The DNS compensation thing is a goodgesture,you've actually earned back some supports for that.Now,you don't have to do anything ... Just a sentence in a software license ..."We will fork those who don't honer PTS and AGS if our community demands it and if we happened to have the resource to do it."something like that.
Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on October 23, 2014, 12:45:02 pmIs it just me, or is a lot of the hatred for these changes coming directly from the Chinese community? The majority on this board seem to be overwhelmingly in favor of the proposed changes, but we keep getting these random attacks from Chinese board members who are absolutely against it...Is there some kind of miscommunication going on here? These changes are necessary and will greatly benefit the ecosystem as a whole...I'm struggling to see how anyone can't see that.I think that a lot more of them went and bought DNS on one of the chinese exchanges, and then got screwed by the unfairly low DNS allocation.
Is it just me, or is a lot of the hatred for these changes coming directly from the Chinese community? The majority on this board seem to be overwhelmingly in favor of the proposed changes, but we keep getting these random attacks from Chinese board members who are absolutely against it...Is there some kind of miscommunication going on here? These changes are necessary and will greatly benefit the ecosystem as a whole...I'm struggling to see how anyone can't see that.
Note to PTS holders... we didn't take your liquidity, we gave you liquidity.PTS is liquid and remains liquid... holders were hoping for a future snapshot in a real DAC as obviously people don't want PTS just for PTS sake... until there is a "real dac" PTS holders are not really liquid. Now they get gradual liquidity in a real DAC that is implementing all of the features they were hoping for. So you don't want to be locked in for a gradual 2 year release.... then sell to someone who is willing to be locked in for 2 years. There are many buyers of PTS that are pricing in a discount for giving up liquidity and you have the option. Be liquid and sell today... or get a larger stake over 2 years.
I dream of a day where the forum feels less like an episode of The View and more like the start of an emerging technology.
Quote from: bytemaster on October 23, 2014, 02:12:01 pmNote to PTS holders... we didn't take your liquidity, we gave you liquidity.PTS is liquid and remains liquid... holders were hoping for a future snapshot in a real DAC as obviously people don't want PTS just for PTS sake... until there is a "real dac" PTS holders are not really liquid. Now they get gradual liquidity in a real DAC that is implementing all of the features they were hoping for. So you don't want to be locked in for a gradual 2 year release.... then sell to someone who is willing to be locked in for 2 years. There are many buyers of PTS that are pricing in a discount for giving up liquidity and you have the option. Be liquid and sell today... or get a larger stake over 2 years. I am not care about liquidity.Because it was wrong at the begining.What i really care about is that no one have the right to destroy the white paper, no one have the right to destroy the social contract, no one have the right to be a dictator of the community.Why does a discussion turn into a decision?And it is necessary for us to continue the discussion on the wrong direction?In other words,iii create the pts/ags/bts_toolkit/btsx and we admit,but you have no right to destroy them.When they were born, they belong to the community,not you.I don't know whether you understand what I mean, but I want to discuss so far so that we can reduce the loss of the community ASAP.
I like where this is going,I just need to work on some fix and see if you can approve.If we do this right,it'll actually be a great sign of understanding and corporation for this amazing community.I would love to mend fences for all parties involved .
Quote from: Stan on October 23, 2014, 03:09:44 pmQuote from: Mars.Walker on October 23, 2014, 02:43:05 pmQuote from: bytemaster on October 23, 2014, 02:39:20 pmQuote from: matt608 on October 23, 2014, 02:36:03 pmQuote from: Riverhead on October 23, 2014, 02:33:29 pmIf we look at the numbers:PTS/AGS got 20% of BTSX = 400,000,000 BTSXBTSX gets 80% of BTS = 2,000,000,000 BTSPTS/AGS get 16% of the 500M BTS = 80,000,000 BTSSo in total PTS/AGS gets 19.2% of BTS. So the social contract is only short 0.8%.Now any DAC that snapshots BTS to bootstrap their DAC will effectively be honoring AGS/PTS.So PLEASE tell the Chinese community that even if they are furious about this situation that they DO NOT destroy any of their accounts that have a balance.Yes but BTS will only be snapshotted 20% I presume so they will get 20% of 20% which is 4%. Tell them that we don't expect any forks worth while to fork at just 20%... I think third parties will do what is best... we always said that AGS/PTS was voluntariy and best practice is 10%.... not everyone does 10%. The point is that I wouldn't worry about 3rd parties much... it would be like complaining that you aren't getting a large stake in all of the alt coins.The people asking for semi-mandatory guidance for 3rd DAC don't care about the actual value.Just one in a thousand jackpot would be nice to live with.Even if they got a thousand junk DAC's 20%,they will laugh,because their faith in you were not in vain.Even if 3rd party dac don't give 20% after your semi-mandatory guidance,they don't care.Even if in the end,all the 3rd party DAC are Junk ,they don't care.They just want a gesture.Happy to do more than make a gesture.Happy to continue to make the recommendation that any 3rd party developer that honors the original AGS/PTS should be honored and supported. Two examples are BitShares Music and BitShares Play. But keep in mind the Ten Laws of the Crypto Universe.https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2876.msg35841#msg35841Developers will do what they think they need to do to succeed.And the Ten Laws will incentivize them to honor the strongest supporters.We promise to compete aggressively according to those natural laws.(A much more polite way of saying what you seem to want.)Either way we intend to show PTS/AGS/BTS are three great ways for a new DAC to win.I like where this is going,I just need to work on some fix and see if you can approve.If we do this right,it'll actually be a great sign of understanding and corporation for this amazing community.I used to do lots of these PR and writing stuff for a living,so I see the significance in this specific topic.As a leader , it's important to let the people of the community know that they still matter to the Bitshares community,not just a cold word saying that "some people do not like the plan,they can vote with their feet",that's effective,but would be wrong.I hold you and Bytemaster to a higher standard , because this cause of Bitshares actually meant something to me , because I believe in my heart that you guys are far more greater than other guys .I would love to mend fences for all parties involved .
Quote from: Mars.Walker on October 23, 2014, 02:43:05 pmQuote from: bytemaster on October 23, 2014, 02:39:20 pmQuote from: matt608 on October 23, 2014, 02:36:03 pmQuote from: Riverhead on October 23, 2014, 02:33:29 pmIf we look at the numbers:PTS/AGS got 20% of BTSX = 400,000,000 BTSXBTSX gets 80% of BTS = 2,000,000,000 BTSPTS/AGS get 16% of the 500M BTS = 80,000,000 BTSSo in total PTS/AGS gets 19.2% of BTS. So the social contract is only short 0.8%.Now any DAC that snapshots BTS to bootstrap their DAC will effectively be honoring AGS/PTS.So PLEASE tell the Chinese community that even if they are furious about this situation that they DO NOT destroy any of their accounts that have a balance.Yes but BTS will only be snapshotted 20% I presume so they will get 20% of 20% which is 4%. Tell them that we don't expect any forks worth while to fork at just 20%... I think third parties will do what is best... we always said that AGS/PTS was voluntariy and best practice is 10%.... not everyone does 10%. The point is that I wouldn't worry about 3rd parties much... it would be like complaining that you aren't getting a large stake in all of the alt coins.The people asking for semi-mandatory guidance for 3rd DAC don't care about the actual value.Just one in a thousand jackpot would be nice to live with.Even if they got a thousand junk DAC's 20%,they will laugh,because their faith in you were not in vain.Even if 3rd party dac don't give 20% after your semi-mandatory guidance,they don't care.Even if in the end,all the 3rd party DAC are Junk ,they don't care.They just want a gesture.Happy to do more than make a gesture.Happy to continue to make the recommendation that any 3rd party developer that honors the original AGS/PTS should be honored and supported. Two examples are BitShares Music and BitShares Play. But keep in mind the Ten Laws of the Crypto Universe.https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2876.msg35841#msg35841Developers will do what they think they need to do to succeed.And the Ten Laws will incentivize them to honor the strongest supporters.We promise to compete aggressively according to those natural laws.(A much more polite way of saying what you seem to want.)Either way we intend to show PTS/AGS/BTS are three great ways for a new DAC to win.
Quote from: bytemaster on October 23, 2014, 02:39:20 pmQuote from: matt608 on October 23, 2014, 02:36:03 pmQuote from: Riverhead on October 23, 2014, 02:33:29 pmIf we look at the numbers:PTS/AGS got 20% of BTSX = 400,000,000 BTSXBTSX gets 80% of BTS = 2,000,000,000 BTSPTS/AGS get 16% of the 500M BTS = 80,000,000 BTSSo in total PTS/AGS gets 19.2% of BTS. So the social contract is only short 0.8%.Now any DAC that snapshots BTS to bootstrap their DAC will effectively be honoring AGS/PTS.So PLEASE tell the Chinese community that even if they are furious about this situation that they DO NOT destroy any of their accounts that have a balance.Yes but BTS will only be snapshotted 20% I presume so they will get 20% of 20% which is 4%. Tell them that we don't expect any forks worth while to fork at just 20%... I think third parties will do what is best... we always said that AGS/PTS was voluntariy and best practice is 10%.... not everyone does 10%. The point is that I wouldn't worry about 3rd parties much... it would be like complaining that you aren't getting a large stake in all of the alt coins.The people asking for semi-mandatory guidance for 3rd DAC don't care about the actual value.Just one in a thousand jackpot would be nice to live with.Even if they got a thousand junk DAC's 20%,they will laugh,because their faith in you were not in vain.Even if 3rd party dac don't give 20% after your semi-mandatory guidance,they don't care.Even if in the end,all the 3rd party DAC are Junk ,they don't care.They just want a gesture.
Quote from: matt608 on October 23, 2014, 02:36:03 pmQuote from: Riverhead on October 23, 2014, 02:33:29 pmIf we look at the numbers:PTS/AGS got 20% of BTSX = 400,000,000 BTSXBTSX gets 80% of BTS = 2,000,000,000 BTSPTS/AGS get 16% of the 500M BTS = 80,000,000 BTSSo in total PTS/AGS gets 19.2% of BTS. So the social contract is only short 0.8%.Now any DAC that snapshots BTS to bootstrap their DAC will effectively be honoring AGS/PTS.So PLEASE tell the Chinese community that even if they are furious about this situation that they DO NOT destroy any of their accounts that have a balance.Yes but BTS will only be snapshotted 20% I presume so they will get 20% of 20% which is 4%. Tell them that we don't expect any forks worth while to fork at just 20%... I think third parties will do what is best... we always said that AGS/PTS was voluntariy and best practice is 10%.... not everyone does 10%. The point is that I wouldn't worry about 3rd parties much... it would be like complaining that you aren't getting a large stake in all of the alt coins.
Quote from: Riverhead on October 23, 2014, 02:33:29 pmIf we look at the numbers:PTS/AGS got 20% of BTSX = 400,000,000 BTSXBTSX gets 80% of BTS = 2,000,000,000 BTSPTS/AGS get 16% of the 500M BTS = 80,000,000 BTSSo in total PTS/AGS gets 19.2% of BTS. So the social contract is only short 0.8%.Now any DAC that snapshots BTS to bootstrap their DAC will effectively be honoring AGS/PTS.So PLEASE tell the Chinese community that even if they are furious about this situation that they DO NOT destroy any of their accounts that have a balance.Yes but BTS will only be snapshotted 20% I presume so they will get 20% of 20% which is 4%.
If we look at the numbers:PTS/AGS got 20% of BTSX = 400,000,000 BTSXBTSX gets 80% of BTS = 2,000,000,000 BTSPTS/AGS get 16% of the 500M BTS = 80,000,000 BTSSo in total PTS/AGS gets 19.2% of BTS. So the social contract is only short 0.8%.Now any DAC that snapshots BTS to bootstrap their DAC will effectively be honoring AGS/PTS.So PLEASE tell the Chinese community that even if they are furious about this situation that they DO NOT destroy any of their accounts that have a balance.
Quote from: bytemaster on October 23, 2014, 02:12:01 pmNote to PTS holders... we didn't take your liquidity, we gave you liquidity.PTS is liquid and remains liquid... holders were hoping for a future snapshot in a real DAC as obviously people don't want PTS just for PTS sake... until there is a "real dac" PTS holders are not really liquid. Now they get gradual liquidity in a real DAC that is implementing all of the features they were hoping for. So you don't want to be locked in for a gradual 2 year release.... then sell to someone who is willing to be locked in for 2 years. There are many buyers of PTS that are pricing in a discount for giving up liquidity and you have the option. Be liquid and sell today... or get a larger stake over 2 years. What i really care about is that no one have the right to destroy the white paper, no one have the right to destroy the social contract, no one have the right to be a dictator of the community.I am not care about liquidity.Because it was wrong at the begining.Why does a discussion turn into a decision?And it is necessary for us to continue the discussion on the wrong direction?
Happy to do more than make a gesture.Happy to continue to make the recommendation that any 3rd party developer that honors the original AGS/PTS should be honored and supported. Two examples are BitShares Music and BitShares Play. But keep in mind the Ten Laws of the Crypto Universe.https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2876.msg35841#msg35841Developers will do what they think they need to do to succeed.And the Ten Laws will incentivize them to honor the strongest supporters.We promise to compete aggressively according to those natural laws.(A much more polite way of saying what you seem to want.)Either way we intend to show PTS/AGS/BTS are three great ways for a new DAC to win.
BM, you really should think about the Merge thing again.The future of DAC ( including DNS/Vote etc) and BTS might all go to hell becuase your wrong decision.You will lost Chinese community support in the future except someone who hold a lot of BTS and Agser before 2.28.Wake up!
I know of at least one third party that is still considering honoring PTS and another is considering taking over PTS support since it is already a living, traded, high ranking coin on coinmarketcap.com.There is an opportunity sitting there for entrepreneurs to attract a big bunch of supporters looking for something to do with their PTS. We will support this strongly.
Quote from: bytemaster on October 23, 2014, 02:29:16 pmQuote from: Mars.Walker on October 23, 2014, 02:25:06 pmQuote from: bytemaster on October 23, 2014, 02:12:01 pmNote to PTS holders... we didn't take your liquidity, we gave you liquidity.PTS is liquid and remains liquid... holders were hoping for a future snapshot in a real DAC as obviously people don't want PTS just for PTS sake... until there is a "real dac" PTS holders are not really liquid. Now they get gradual liquidity in a real DAC that is implementing all of the features they were hoping for. So you don't want to be locked in for a gradual 2 year release.... then sell to someone who is willing to be locked in for 2 years. There are many buyers of PTS that are pricing in a discount for giving up liquidity and you have the option. Be liquid and sell today... or get a larger stake over 2 years. Notes from the Chinese community : they can set aside all the difficult part , but the plan must compromise to a really small gesture:Bitshares team must announce that "Third party DAC using BTS toolkit must give 20% to ags and pts, or the almighty Bitshares team will forkyou ! fork you !!"The guys don't actually hold you to your word to fork it ,just a gesture from the bitshares team as a "semi-mandatory" guidance to third party developers.You don't have to promise when to fork, just have to let 3rd party devs know "If you don't give it to us,we will fork !!!!!"This compromise,don't actually cost you guys anything.But can bring many people peace (at least 50%+ of the current protesters).No need to FORK them... their technological and economical distinctivness will be added to our own. In other words... 3rd parties have and will continue to honor AGS/PTS for the good will of recognizing those who funded this ecosystem.You don't understand...No one is asking you to fork them.3rd Party just need to know they will be forked .Otherwise ,some 3rd party using DAC might actually success without the PTS and AGS as a starting market promotion plan.They can win,and thinking that you won't fork them. ----- in the end,AGS and PTS still get nothing,and yet contribute the toolkit to a 3rd Party for nothing.You're assuming PTS and AGS are good enough market demographic , so 3rd would like to get alone with these people.But what if they can find a better demographic with far less cost ?By the way,by 3rd party dac should give to AGS and PTS, I'm talking about the old AGS and PTS ,not give it though the new BTS
Quote from: Mars.Walker on October 23, 2014, 02:25:06 pmQuote from: bytemaster on October 23, 2014, 02:12:01 pmNote to PTS holders... we didn't take your liquidity, we gave you liquidity.PTS is liquid and remains liquid... holders were hoping for a future snapshot in a real DAC as obviously people don't want PTS just for PTS sake... until there is a "real dac" PTS holders are not really liquid. Now they get gradual liquidity in a real DAC that is implementing all of the features they were hoping for. So you don't want to be locked in for a gradual 2 year release.... then sell to someone who is willing to be locked in for 2 years. There are many buyers of PTS that are pricing in a discount for giving up liquidity and you have the option. Be liquid and sell today... or get a larger stake over 2 years. Notes from the Chinese community : they can set aside all the difficult part , but the plan must compromise to a really small gesture:Bitshares team must announce that "Third party DAC using BTS toolkit must give 20% to ags and pts, or the almighty Bitshares team will forkyou ! fork you !!"The guys don't actually hold you to your word to fork it ,just a gesture from the bitshares team as a "semi-mandatory" guidance to third party developers.You don't have to promise when to fork, just have to let 3rd party devs know "If you don't give it to us,we will fork !!!!!"This compromise,don't actually cost you guys anything.But can bring many people peace (at least 50%+ of the current protesters).No need to FORK them... their technological and economical distinctivness will be added to our own. In other words... 3rd parties have and will continue to honor AGS/PTS for the good will of recognizing those who funded this ecosystem.
Quote from: bytemaster on October 23, 2014, 02:12:01 pmNote to PTS holders... we didn't take your liquidity, we gave you liquidity.PTS is liquid and remains liquid... holders were hoping for a future snapshot in a real DAC as obviously people don't want PTS just for PTS sake... until there is a "real dac" PTS holders are not really liquid. Now they get gradual liquidity in a real DAC that is implementing all of the features they were hoping for. So you don't want to be locked in for a gradual 2 year release.... then sell to someone who is willing to be locked in for 2 years. There are many buyers of PTS that are pricing in a discount for giving up liquidity and you have the option. Be liquid and sell today... or get a larger stake over 2 years. Notes from the Chinese community : they can set aside all the difficult part , but the plan must compromise to a really small gesture:Bitshares team must announce that "Third party DAC using BTS toolkit must give 20% to ags and pts, or the almighty Bitshares team will forkyou ! fork you !!"The guys don't actually hold you to your word to fork it ,just a gesture from the bitshares team as a "semi-mandatory" guidance to third party developers.You don't have to promise when to fork, just have to let 3rd party devs know "If you don't give it to us,we will fork !!!!!"This compromise,don't actually cost you guys anything.But can bring many people peace (at least 50%+ of the current protesters).
Someone just asked me a fun question.....He said if you like your math,he would like to trade his PTS for your BTSX now , according to the value you calculated. Does that sound good?
Without it, every new DAC would cannibalize the former.Now, every new DAC accelerates the former.[/center]
Quote from: Stan on October 23, 2014, 01:46:57 pmQuote from: Mars.Walker on October 23, 2014, 01:24:54 pmQuote from: nomoreheroes7 on October 23, 2014, 12:45:02 pmIs it just me, or is a lot of the hatred for these changes coming directly from the Chinese community? The majority on this board seem to be overwhelmingly in favor of the proposed changes, but we keep getting these random attacks from Chinese board members who are absolutely against it...Is there some kind of miscommunication going on here? These changes are necessary and will greatly benefit the ecosystem as a whole...I'm struggling to see how anyone can't see that.well,because many people don't have BTSX , and those people invested in AGS PTS big time.It's just a matter of interest.I can't be convinced BTC will success,because I don't actually own any bitcoin.But if you give 100BTC to me,I would like to support Bitcoin in any way. Do they understand that they now do have a nice stake in BTS?I understand....just they don't think it's nicer than the originals.But like I said,it's totally understandable why people would react like that.Because PTS and AGS actually stood for something to them,the value of PTS and AGS trade for BTS is not a good deal for them.Because they don't really believe that BTS they got is enough for the "endless possibility" that the original AGS and PTS can give them.It's not a simple math.....Because they're not convinced this is a good deal.
Quote from: Mars.Walker on October 23, 2014, 01:24:54 pmQuote from: nomoreheroes7 on October 23, 2014, 12:45:02 pmIs it just me, or is a lot of the hatred for these changes coming directly from the Chinese community? The majority on this board seem to be overwhelmingly in favor of the proposed changes, but we keep getting these random attacks from Chinese board members who are absolutely against it...Is there some kind of miscommunication going on here? These changes are necessary and will greatly benefit the ecosystem as a whole...I'm struggling to see how anyone can't see that.well,because many people don't have BTSX , and those people invested in AGS PTS big time.It's just a matter of interest.I can't be convinced BTC will success,because I don't actually own any bitcoin.But if you give 100BTC to me,I would like to support Bitcoin in any way. Do they understand that they now do have a nice stake in BTS?
Quote from: nomoreheroes7 on October 23, 2014, 12:45:02 pmIs it just me, or is a lot of the hatred for these changes coming directly from the Chinese community? The majority on this board seem to be overwhelmingly in favor of the proposed changes, but we keep getting these random attacks from Chinese board members who are absolutely against it...Is there some kind of miscommunication going on here? These changes are necessary and will greatly benefit the ecosystem as a whole...I'm struggling to see how anyone can't see that.well,because many people don't have BTSX , and those people invested in AGS PTS big time.It's just a matter of interest.I can't be convinced BTC will success,because I don't actually own any bitcoin.But if you give 100BTC to me,I would like to support Bitcoin in any way.
No need to FORK them... their technological and economical distinctivness will be added to our own.
Quote from: Riverhead on October 23, 2014, 01:51:43 pmQuote from: Mars.Walker on October 23, 2014, 01:28:42 pmBut I do understand the people who object.We have to acknowledge the wound in order to heal.Agreed. After reading your post about how many of the Chinese only held PTS/AGS I can understand their pain. However keep in mind the following:While the company formally known as I3 has honored the social contract twice (once for BTSX and again for BTS) they most likely won't in the future as they will all be working for the BitShares DAC and not releasing new DACs.There is no reason other third party DAC creators (like Music) can't honor the social contract of PTS though likely they won't need to because...If you hold PTS/AGS you are in the genesis block of BTS. Any DAC that forks BitShares Toolkit is also going to have those PTS/AGS in their genesis block if they decide to do a BTS snapshot (and I don't see why they wouldn't). Am I misunderstanding that?To AGSer,it's not a really big deal,just the percentage seems to be smaller than 10% social consensus.But to PTSer , it's not only about the number,it's about the liquidity ...... As to third party DAC,if AGS fund is not going to fund third party,then I don't think any third party DAC would honer AGS and PTS.Like I said , people are mad for a reason,it would be foolish to think they are foolish.Unless you can convince them it would be a better deal , which I don't think anyone here can say they're sure the stake they got in BTS is going to outweigh the percentage and liquidity they've lost.It's totally reasonable for people believed in something they already have.Just like some of the Bitcoiners,if you want to sell them BTSX in exchange for BTC,they would laught at you..
Quote from: Mars.Walker on October 23, 2014, 01:28:42 pmBut I do understand the people who object.We have to acknowledge the wound in order to heal.Agreed. After reading your post about how many of the Chinese only held PTS/AGS I can understand their pain. However keep in mind the following:While the company formally known as I3 has honored the social contract twice (once for BTSX and again for BTS) they most likely won't in the future as they will all be working for the BitShares DAC and not releasing new DACs.There is no reason other third party DAC creators (like Music) can't honor the social contract of PTS though likely they won't need to because...If you hold PTS/AGS you are in the genesis block of BTS. Any DAC that forks BitShares Toolkit is also going to have those PTS/AGS in their genesis block if they decide to do a BTS snapshot (and I don't see why they wouldn't). Am I misunderstanding that?
But I do understand the people who object.We have to acknowledge the wound in order to heal.
I think it's important to keep in mind the mechanics behind what's going on.1) BM and team are creating a new SuperDAC called BitShares that uses BTS as its primary shares.2) To kick start this new SuperDAC they are airdropping 100% of the shares (2.5B) based on allocations from existing DACs.He could have just as easily airdropped BTSX:BTS 1:1 and said, "Best of Luck!" to all the other DACS but instead gave them a stake in the new project via an extra 500,000,000 BTS.From a traditional business perspective BM has gone way above and beyond what 99% of companies do in this situation. I've spent over 20 years working for big corporations; I've seen how ugly this can be when the decision makers don't care about those that got them to where they are. This is NOT the case here.e: So many typos...
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