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Ideally we even start with liquid markets
I've lost quite a bit over the years with the various emanations of this project. I stick with it. Maybe I have no right to comment but I want to ask one thing. Please, please don't release the new wallet if it is anything like that sad 0.9.2 and it's predecessors. If anything is designed to put people off it's something like that hideous front window. Please only release when it works and keeps working. OK many will flare up at my impudence but someone has to keep it flagged.
Quote from: Ben Mason on August 21, 2015, 12:57:47 amRather than think solely in terms of profit, think more about aligning economic incentives. I was always taken from the very beginning by bm's vision to make good behaviour more profitable than bad.Yeah, incentives are very important part of profitability.Profits itself are not good or bad, they are just a necessity. If the system wastes more resources than it creates or other ways brings in, it will die sooner or later.Josh Kaufman has a good definition of business (in his great book The Personal MBA):"Every succesful business (1) creates or provides something of value that (2) other people want or need (3) at a price they're willing to pay, in a way that (4) satisfies the purchaser's needs and expectations and (5) provides the business sufficient revenue to make it worthwhile for the owners to continue operation."Most of the crypto developers haven't really understood this. Bytemaster is a rare exception.
Rather than think solely in terms of profit, think more about aligning economic incentives. I was always taken from the very beginning by bm's vision to make good behaviour more profitable than bad.
Bitshares – because revolution has to be profitable!
Quote from: Ander on August 18, 2015, 08:41:26 pmIt seems to me that the focus now is on becoming profitable, so that we can survive, continue to develop, and then grow strong to achieve Bitshares goals for the future.If a potential investor asks what BitShares is about or aims to do and you answer "to be profitable", his knowledge of BitShares will be the same he had before asking that same question. That answers nothing. It's every companies' objective to be profitable.
It seems to me that the focus now is on becoming profitable, so that we can survive, continue to develop, and then grow strong to achieve Bitshares goals for the future.
I will attend the The 10th Global Money Transfer Summit held 15-16 September at L39, Canary Wharf, London as a speaker up against the big guys from Bitpay, Circle and Bitcoin Foundation on the panel on Sept. 16th covering crypto currency and only second year they have crypto included. This i a 1700 GBP entrance fee event meant for the CEO's and similar of major money remittance system providers like Weestern Union, Moneygram, World Remit and many more from all over the world.What I wanted to say with this is, that your explanation is going to be added to my file as important information to clearly picture what Bitshares is all about to these influential people from all over the world. I only have a slot of some 8-10 minutes so I have to be very direct and informative, aming an impression to help Bitshares get an early footprint into the world's remittance industry.
Quote from: Ben Mason on August 19, 2015, 05:04:24 amThe point I'm trying to make is a serious one, not just repeated philosophical sound-bites. The principal value of Bitshares is corruption/centralisation resistance with the ability to scale. Why are investors not interested in that? Because they don't think it works? Or it won't be allowed to work? Don't want it to work? Don't get how it works? DPOS is the core innovation that sets Bitshares apart from many other projects. If you are saying we need institutional investors, well then I disagree. We need to earn the trust of ordinary people and if successful, new institutions will grow from that. You might say that ordinary people don't care about corruption, they just want easy. Well they might care more once everyone gets burned by the central banking super theft etcWhat is the simplest, most compelling argument for people to use Bitshares? Bitshares can protect you, everybody, the planet from the effects of tyranny that results from the mis-use of the power of money.All the application layers, the decentralized market, the pegged assets, smart contracts, the referral systrem etc are brilliant features. But they are worthless without the network's integrity. Good money drives out bad. Bitshares must be synonymous in people's minds with good money or eventually, people and the new corporations will be utilising a different network.....How do we summarise what Bitshares can do? Well it offers an efficient, secure, low-cost means of sending, recieving, executing and recording transactions. This provides the framework for buliding digital networks with a variety of features like decentralised markets, pegged assets.....etc. New features and applications are being innovated all the time. In simple terms Bitshares can be your accountant, lawyer, insurer, estate-agent, banker, government, post office, stock market etc and money. It really depends on what the user wants to do with Bitshares.I think personally you have hit the nail right where it needs to be. When reading this, I got a more personal understanding to Bitshares so I sent it immediately to my Forbes contact for him to start preparing the material for his "best article ever" on the Bitshares 2.0 launch. I will attend the The 10th Global Money Transfer Summit held 15-16 September at L39, Canary Wharf, London as a speaker up against the big guys from Bitpay, Circle and Bitcoin Foundation on the panel on Sept. 16th covering crypto currency and only second year they have crypto included. This i a 1700 GBP entrance fee event meant for the CEO's and similar of major money remittance system providers like Weestern Union, Moneygram, World Remit and many more from all over the world.What I wanted to say with this is, that your explanation is going to be added to my file as important information to clearly picture what Bitshares is all about to these influential people from all over the world. I only have a slot of some 8-10 minutes so I have to be very direct and informative, aming an impression to help Bitshares get an early footprint into the world's remittance industry.
The point I'm trying to make is a serious one, not just repeated philosophical sound-bites. The principal value of Bitshares is corruption/centralisation resistance with the ability to scale. Why are investors not interested in that? Because they don't think it works? Or it won't be allowed to work? Don't want it to work? Don't get how it works? DPOS is the core innovation that sets Bitshares apart from many other projects. If you are saying we need institutional investors, well then I disagree. We need to earn the trust of ordinary people and if successful, new institutions will grow from that. You might say that ordinary people don't care about corruption, they just want easy. Well they might care more once everyone gets burned by the central banking super theft etcWhat is the simplest, most compelling argument for people to use Bitshares? Bitshares can protect you, everybody, the planet from the effects of tyranny that results from the mis-use of the power of money.All the application layers, the decentralized market, the pegged assets, smart contracts, the referral systrem etc are brilliant features. But they are worthless without the network's integrity. Good money drives out bad. Bitshares must be synonymous in people's minds with good money or eventually, people and the new corporations will be utilising a different network.....How do we summarise what Bitshares can do? Well it offers an efficient, secure, low-cost means of sending, recieving, executing and recording transactions. This provides the framework for buliding digital networks with a variety of features like decentralised markets, pegged assets.....etc. New features and applications are being innovated all the time. In simple terms Bitshares can be your accountant, lawyer, insurer, estate-agent, banker, government, post office, stock market etc and money. It really depends on what the user wants to do with Bitshares.
Quote from: Empirical1.2 on August 18, 2015, 08:24:06 pmBitShares aims to be the market leader in crypto-backed derivatives as well as related products and services.Store your funds in $, €, ¥, Au or Ag in a fast, easy to use, globally accessible wallet thereby offering a service that's more private and secure than a Swiss Bank Account. https://moonstone.io/"It’s like having your savings, checking, and trading accounts in the palm of your hand, accessible from anywhere in the world – with dramatically lower fees than banks and exchanges have ever been able to offer.’ Clear and straight to the point.We should make sure its truly decentralized though and able to survive outside the US.Jeb Bush said Tuesday that the government should have broad surveillance powers of Americans and private technology firms should cooperate better with intelligence agencies to help combat "evildoers."http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2015/08/18/jeb-bush-nsa-needs-broader-powers-to-combat-evildoers
BitShares aims to be the market leader in crypto-backed derivatives as well as related products and services.Store your funds in $, €, ¥, Au or Ag in a fast, easy to use, globally accessible wallet thereby offering a service that's more private and secure than a Swiss Bank Account. https://moonstone.io/"It’s like having your savings, checking, and trading accounts in the palm of your hand, accessible from anywhere in the world – with dramatically lower fees than banks and exchanges have ever been able to offer.’
wow... to Empirical..That was a very good summary of the whole situation.Before I park myself here I was in 20 different communities and I was doing profitable trading with 20 different coins all the time.People and Devs of this community kept me here despite all my huge losses with BTS. This community is by far the best out there and I really think that we have the less greedy people out there...
Quote from: Ben Mason on August 18, 2015, 02:44:24 amThe purpose of Bitshares is to secure life, liberty and property for all. How? By using technology to decentralise the power of money, to codify a digital constitution with consensus forming the backbone of its governance. Why? To ensure the network is resistant to corruption over time, enabling a participant to resist theft or censorship. I think that's the philosophical part. Most didn't give a direct and concise answer. What services does BitShares provide? What is BitShares about? If we can't explain that how can we hope to attract new people'? Ben, I appreciate your posts and although I get you, an investor won't care at all about most of what you just said.NuShares and Nubits aims to provide stable cryptocurrency pegged to the US Dollar.BitShares aims to The best I can come up with at the moment is BitShares is a platform which allows for development of financial tools via smartcontracts. Dunno if that's the most correct option. However, even if it is, "financial tools" is a term too relative. I think I can't explain too well but from what I've seen neither did most people in this thread. So the question here is what will those smartcontracts be based on?Before it was easier. I could say BitShares is a decentralized exchange but now seems to be way more than that and people may have a difficult time trying to understand the concept.
The purpose of Bitshares is to secure life, liberty and property for all. How? By using technology to decentralise the power of money, to codify a digital constitution with consensus forming the backbone of its governance. Why? To ensure the network is resistant to corruption over time, enabling a participant to resist theft or censorship.
From my point of view, I'm going to have to agree. Given the same handicap, Charles appears to be more sexy than Trump. The brilliance part will be determined once I can see how many times Charles has filed bankruptcy and recovered to run for President.
Quote from: mike623317 on August 19, 2015, 03:44:12 amHitler said Tuesday that the government should have broad surveillance powers of Germans and private technology firms should cooperate better with intelligence agencies to help combat "evildoers."Just a slight change for perspective.
Hitler said Tuesday that the government should have broad surveillance powers of Germans and private technology firms should cooperate better with intelligence agencies to help combat "evildoers."
Or a giant middle finger.
... except Tuck (cuz he's insider trading I hear lel)
Trump wishes he is as sexy and brilliant as me.
What is bitshares. Next tell me the primary media outlet to propagate it.
Quote from: lil_jay890 on August 18, 2015, 09:33:44 pmIf you want to get more votes, I suggest you tone down the negativity and leave out the drugs. Marijuana is a plant. A government calling it another name doesn't make it change into something it's not. It just allows them to extort money and create slave labor with a "Drug War".Quote from: lil_jay890 on August 18, 2015, 09:33:44 pmAlso, right now I don't think BTS investors have charity high on their priority listsAgreed. I think most are stuck with a loss right now ... except Tuck (cuz he's insider trading I hear lel) and maybe Ander.
If you want to get more votes, I suggest you tone down the negativity and leave out the drugs.
Also, right now I don't think BTS investors have charity high on their priority lists
Quote from: IOHKCharles on August 18, 2015, 07:33:39 pmSo what I'm hearing is BitShares: Life, Liberty and Property. Why not chat with Glenn Beck? This seems to overlap with the Blaze network's core message.Generally though I would favor avoiding the philosophical discussion in public and force on marketnig Bitshares like you would market Linux, or a financial tool.
So what I'm hearing is BitShares: Life, Liberty and Property. Why not chat with Glenn Beck? This seems to overlap with the Blaze network's core message.
Quote from: 38PTSWarrior on August 18, 2015, 10:21:01 pmQuote from: lil_jay890 on August 18, 2015, 09:33:44 pmQuote from: 38PTSWarrior on August 18, 2015, 09:23:28 pmI am disappointed because we want to give everyone in the world a bank account without ID besides being a trading platform.The social aspect is coming to short. When I walk around I show the people the delegates in the blockexplorer. I say, this is digital gaia, poor place 102 since ages. This is yunbi and exchange and this is blackwavelabs, did nothing but are 20 positions higher then me.That does not look good friends. That looks really fucking bad!Also, people should be helping each other and I show since such a long time what I do. Still there is noone other than 2-3 people who give 20 dollar. Do you think that I will buy weed with it or so?The Chateaux Endeavour could be reality already and make some waves in the media. Remember, I got portraid from the journalist of the year once and I can make an update maybe but for that I need to be able to go off the beaten track and need the backing of you.We are the genesis right? :-)Martin, I support your delegate and have voted for you. The problem I see is that you have posted quite a bit about how you smoke weed everyday and you are borderline homeless. I can see this being a big turn off for people who are looking for someone they can trust with their votes. Smoking weed and complaining everyday about not being in the 101 doesn't exactly exude professionalism.If you want to get more votes, I suggest you tone down the negativity and leave out the drugs. Also, right now I don't think BTS investors have charity high on their priority lists. Focus on monetizing and growing bts. Sorry if that seems harsh, but it's what I believe is holding you back.Remember, "life is a resume" be careful what you put on it.I am every day out there with a smile. Today I made new users as every day. I can see it in their eyes that they gonna download today. But they will not use a ref-link.To say that I complain too much is not fair because it*s not true. I wrote important things in my posting and want to provoke a change in the shareholders view.That you kill the vibe here is really not helpful.That I am homeless and work at the same time is a sign of professionalism.Honesty is an important thing. Everyone here is taking drugs. I prefer to trust a good man like me who smokes weed much more than someone who doesnt and drinks for example.I am so honest, when I find money on the ground I will ask who it belongs to.What information do you have about blavkwavelabs. Please support me and try to answer the question, why they are on a higher position than me.I am not a guy who works for people who judge people for smoking every day or being homeless.Martin, I gave you a suggestion on how to get more votes. I even said that verbaltech's funds should be distributed to you so that you would have a chance to prove yourself. You say you want ideas on how to get more votes, when in actuality you have no intention to do anything different than what you are currently doing.Remember I have never met you and all my opinions have been formed by posts from you on the forum.
Quote from: lil_jay890 on August 18, 2015, 09:33:44 pmQuote from: 38PTSWarrior on August 18, 2015, 09:23:28 pmI am disappointed because we want to give everyone in the world a bank account without ID besides being a trading platform.The social aspect is coming to short. When I walk around I show the people the delegates in the blockexplorer. I say, this is digital gaia, poor place 102 since ages. This is yunbi and exchange and this is blackwavelabs, did nothing but are 20 positions higher then me.That does not look good friends. That looks really fucking bad!Also, people should be helping each other and I show since such a long time what I do. Still there is noone other than 2-3 people who give 20 dollar. Do you think that I will buy weed with it or so?The Chateaux Endeavour could be reality already and make some waves in the media. Remember, I got portraid from the journalist of the year once and I can make an update maybe but for that I need to be able to go off the beaten track and need the backing of you.We are the genesis right? :-)Martin, I support your delegate and have voted for you. The problem I see is that you have posted quite a bit about how you smoke weed everyday and you are borderline homeless. I can see this being a big turn off for people who are looking for someone they can trust with their votes. Smoking weed and complaining everyday about not being in the 101 doesn't exactly exude professionalism.If you want to get more votes, I suggest you tone down the negativity and leave out the drugs. Also, right now I don't think BTS investors have charity high on their priority lists. Focus on monetizing and growing bts. Sorry if that seems harsh, but it's what I believe is holding you back.Remember, "life is a resume" be careful what you put on it.I am every day out there with a smile. Today I made new users as every day. I can see it in their eyes that they gonna download today. But they will not use a ref-link.To say that I complain too much is not fair because it*s not true. I wrote important things in my posting and want to provoke a change in the shareholders view.That you kill the vibe here is really not helpful.That I am homeless and work at the same time is a sign of professionalism.Honesty is an important thing. Everyone here is taking drugs. I prefer to trust a good man like me who smokes weed much more than someone who doesnt and drinks for example.I am so honest, when I find money on the ground I will ask who it belongs to.What information do you have about blavkwavelabs. Please support me and try to answer the question, why they are on a higher position than me.I am not a guy who works for people who judge people for smoking every day or being homeless.
Quote from: 38PTSWarrior on August 18, 2015, 09:23:28 pmI am disappointed because we want to give everyone in the world a bank account without ID besides being a trading platform.The social aspect is coming to short. When I walk around I show the people the delegates in the blockexplorer. I say, this is digital gaia, poor place 102 since ages. This is yunbi and exchange and this is blackwavelabs, did nothing but are 20 positions higher then me.That does not look good friends. That looks really fucking bad!Also, people should be helping each other and I show since such a long time what I do. Still there is noone other than 2-3 people who give 20 dollar. Do you think that I will buy weed with it or so?The Chateaux Endeavour could be reality already and make some waves in the media. Remember, I got portraid from the journalist of the year once and I can make an update maybe but for that I need to be able to go off the beaten track and need the backing of you.We are the genesis right? :-)Martin, I support your delegate and have voted for you. The problem I see is that you have posted quite a bit about how you smoke weed everyday and you are borderline homeless. I can see this being a big turn off for people who are looking for someone they can trust with their votes. Smoking weed and complaining everyday about not being in the 101 doesn't exactly exude professionalism.If you want to get more votes, I suggest you tone down the negativity and leave out the drugs. Also, right now I don't think BTS investors have charity high on their priority lists. Focus on monetizing and growing bts. Sorry if that seems harsh, but it's what I believe is holding you back.Remember, "life is a resume" be careful what you put on it.
I am disappointed because we want to give everyone in the world a bank account without ID besides being a trading platform.The social aspect is coming to short. When I walk around I show the people the delegates in the blockexplorer. I say, this is digital gaia, poor place 102 since ages. This is yunbi and exchange and this is blackwavelabs, did nothing but are 20 positions higher then me.That does not look good friends. That looks really fucking bad!Also, people should be helping each other and I show since such a long time what I do. Still there is noone other than 2-3 people who give 20 dollar. Do you think that I will buy weed with it or so?The Chateaux Endeavour could be reality already and make some waves in the media. Remember, I got portraid from the journalist of the year once and I can make an update maybe but for that I need to be able to go off the beaten track and need the backing of you.We are the genesis right? :-)
Quote from: cass on August 18, 2015, 05:14:11 pmQuote from: Riverhead on August 18, 2015, 01:01:42 amQuote from: 38PTSWarrior on August 18, 2015, 12:19:00 amI have to tell the people that bytemaster and his philosophy is good, also the software, but that the community is mostly selfish, non-charity, pennyfaces who pretend to be anarchists but are only in for the money. Really Cass, you too? The Software is good & the community sucks? Are you a shareholder in CNX? The current wallet is the hardest to use/problematic in crypto. The community has diluted themselves more times than any crypto & in the last year BTS has lost more than any crypto in the top 10. When they started PTS the community supported them, when they said that wasn't enough, the community said OK to AGS. When BM said I'm considering moving to VOTE before 1.0, BTSX gave up 20% for a merger to become the sole focus. When AGS ran out and dilution was needed, they gave that. When they said we've formed CNX to profit from the toolkit, private blockchain opportunities and some decentralised ones that don't directly compete with BTS. The community stayed. Look at the massive list of contributions people have made in the brownie PTS thread not expecting a reward at the time.I really think there's a small group that have twisted reality to justify selfish actions and failures by somehow saying the community is to blame as well as trying to stereotype that community when it's made up of an incredibly diverse global group of varying backgrounds and beliefs & most excluding myself are positive contributors and shareholders.
Quote from: Riverhead on August 18, 2015, 01:01:42 amQuote from: 38PTSWarrior on August 18, 2015, 12:19:00 amI have to tell the people that bytemaster and his philosophy is good, also the software, but that the community is mostly selfish, non-charity, pennyfaces who pretend to be anarchists but are only in for the money.
Quote from: 38PTSWarrior on August 18, 2015, 12:19:00 amI have to tell the people that bytemaster and his philosophy is good, also the software, but that the community is mostly selfish, non-charity, pennyfaces who pretend to be anarchists but are only in for the money.
I have to tell the people that bytemaster and his philosophy is good, also the software, but that the community is mostly selfish, non-charity, pennyfaces who pretend to be anarchists but are only in for the money.
How do you make high profile connections like that?
Why not chat with Glenn Beck?
QuoteBecause he's a Masonic shill?Is his audience?
Because he's a Masonic shill?
Quote from: Akado on August 18, 2015, 09:01:49 pm@EmpiricalNice reply, most complete up until now imo Quote from: Ander on August 18, 2015, 08:41:26 pmIt seems to me that the focus now is on becoming profitable, so that we can survive, continue to develop, and then grow strong to achieve Bitshares goals for the future.If a potential investor asks what BitShares is about or aims to do and you answer "to be profitable", his knowledge of BitShares will be the same he had before asking that same question. That answers nothing. It's every companies' objective to be profitable.Yeah, I wasnt trying to give a full sales pitch, just summarize the present goal of the project.
@EmpiricalNice reply, most complete up until now imo Quote from: Ander on August 18, 2015, 08:41:26 pmIt seems to me that the focus now is on becoming profitable, so that we can survive, continue to develop, and then grow strong to achieve Bitshares goals for the future.If a potential investor asks what BitShares is about or aims to do and you answer "to be profitable", his knowledge of BitShares will be the same he had before asking that same question. That answers nothing. It's every companies' objective to be profitable.
The Blaze is not what you want Bitshares associated with from a marketing perspective. On the other hand Life, Liberty and Property is difficult to disagree with because they are American principles and considered to be natural rights.Generally though I would favor avoiding the philosophical discussion in public and force on marketnig Bitshares like you would market Linux, or a financial tool.
’A new generation of 2.0 coins – ‘SmartCoins’ – will become available as funding options for the NanoCard over the coming months. It means users will be able store their funds in cryptocurrencies pegged to the Euro, US dollar, Chinese Renminbi (CNY), silver as well as gold – and converted only at the time of use."It’s like having your savings, checking, and trading accounts in the palm of your hand, accessible from anywhere in the world – with dramatically lower fees than banks and exchanges have ever been able to offer.’
It can all come together in 2.0 though, we should get great software that can be promoted by our great community.
Quote from: cass on August 18, 2015, 05:14:11 pmQuote from: Riverhead on August 18, 2015, 01:01:42 amQuote from: 38PTSWarrior on August 18, 2015, 12:19:00 amI have to tell the people that bytemaster and his philosophy is good, also the software, but that the community is mostly selfish, non-charity, pennyfaces who pretend to be anarchists but are only in for the money. Really Cass, you too? The Software is good & the community sucks? Are you a shareholder in CNX? The current wallet is the hardest to use in crypto & the community has diluted themselves more than any other in crypto & BTS has underperformed more than any crypto in the top 10 the last 12 monthsWhen they started PTS the community supported them, when they said that wasn't enough, the community said OK to AGS. When BM said I'm considering moving to VOTE before 1.0, BTSX gave up 20% for a merger to become the sole focus. When AGS ran out and dilution was needed, they gave that. When they said we've formed CNX to profit from the toolkit, private blockchain opportunities and some decentralised ones that don't directly compete with BTS. The community stayed. Look at the massive list of contributions people have made in the brownie PTS thread not expecting a reward at the time.I really think there's a small group that have twisted reality to justify selfish actions and failures by somehow saying the community is too blame as well as trying to stereotype that community when it's made up of an incredibly diverse global group of varying backgrounds and beliefs.
I disagree so much. The community is strong, but the 0.x version software wasnt good, and that is one of the main things that hurt us. That and changing things too many times and diluting.It can all come together in 2.0 though, we should get great software that can be promoted by our great community.
this summer
Quote from: cass on August 18, 2015, 05:14:11 pmQuote from: Riverhead on August 18, 2015, 01:01:42 amQuote from: 38PTSWarrior on August 18, 2015, 12:19:00 amI have to tell the people that bytemaster and his philosophy is good, also the software, but that the community is mostly selfish, non-charity, pennyfaces who pretend to be anarchists but are only in for the money. -10%.. I feel that you missjudge this community...The ones who were just in for the money dumped their BTS a year ago at very high levels and never came back..The ones that still post here after all the dumping are people who do care but cashed their profits or the ones that believed all the hype and didn't dump when they should have done like the rest. It is absolutely normal many people to be frustrated because day by day for the past year they see their money dissapear and constantly make one loss after the other because of the unstoppable dumping..And despite all their losses they are still here..If they didn't care they would have already moved to somewhere else.. It is very easy to judge others of greediness when you cashed your profits already..What pisses me off is that most people that made their huge profits out of BTS in reality it appears that they moved to the next thing and never really cared about BTS. Otherwise they would support it by at least buying back at these levels..So we are just left here with the hope of attracting new people in the future..anyways..
If you were to ask a Bitcoiner ...
The purpose of Bitshares is to secure life, liberty and property for all.
The purpose of Bitshares is to secure life, liberty and property for all. How? By using technology to decentralise the power of money, to codify a digital constitution with consensus forming the backbone of its governance. Why? To ensure the network is resistant to corruption over time, enabling a participant to resist theft or censorship. The features and products will provide utility and ease use of use, but this is secondary to the core purpose.Adoption may come from the latter but the resilience of the network will come from absolute dedication and delivery of the former.Resisting corruption over time is the principal benefit of crypto given that corruption is the most significant factor in shaping the world around us.This community has been amazingly resiliant, innovative and hard working. All voices have the opportunity to be heard. We need a broad spectrum of views. Courtesy and patience should be front and centre in how we continue to conduct our interactions. If Bitshares is made a success by those seeking profit or those seeking to change the world, it matters not. As long as the system is built to uphold and safeguard its original purpose, initial personal profit will become insignificant compared to the benefits to humanity over the course of a thousand years. If the vision of Bitshares is realised "well then we'll have something we've never had before, a 'planet' of our own."Imagine a world where innovation could not be stifled.
... but that the community is mostly selfish, non-charity, pennyfaces who pretend to be anarchists but are only in for the money.
Quote from: Riverhead on August 18, 2015, 01:01:42 amQuote from: 38PTSWarrior on August 18, 2015, 12:19:00 amI have to tell the people that bytemaster and his philosophy is good, also the software, but that the community is mostly selfish, non-charity, pennyfaces who pretend to be anarchists but are only in for the money. While I might fit the above profile, the vast majority of this community have experienced major losses but have remained supporters for nearly two years and looking at Brownie PTS have gone above and beyond in their contributions expecting very little in return. I would say you have one of the most generous, committed communities and I think it says a lot that you think so little of them Riverhead.
Does Bitshares currently have a mission statement? Or some notion of its values and goals. Perhaps a constitution? It might be a really good community building exercise to do given the upcoming release of Bitshares 2. Maybe develop a list of questions and do a survey of the community.