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Quote from: liondani on October 03, 2014, 12:35:45 amQuote from: Chuckone on October 02, 2014, 11:17:56 pmQuote from: tonyk on September 27, 2014, 11:29:27 pmQuote from: jwiz168 on September 27, 2014, 11:27:19 pmI maybe late on this one but tonyk was the MAIN man why cob reconsidered his stand on allocations of shares in Bitshares Music which was the 10% for each AGS/PTS holders. He has a firm grasp of what he is putting on the table.I wish but I highly doubt that - Dan, Stan, Nikolai (Sorry if I missing someone) are the one that did the true work.Yes, but you did voice the general concern regarding distribution more *convincingly* then the average user. That at least had some influence on the discussion with the I3 team. Keep it up!strongly agree!You should both stop those unnecessary destructive encouragements... NOW!During a week, that I am trying to make hard enough choices: Between being honest open logical and blunt, regarding anything and everything I disagree with. And try to find a way to do this without leaving unintended hurt feelings and or blood spills....It is hard enough without encouraging my natural tendencies... So, at least give me a chance to figure out if there is a way to be a kinder man and remain true to myself, please...
Quote from: Chuckone on October 02, 2014, 11:17:56 pmQuote from: tonyk on September 27, 2014, 11:29:27 pmQuote from: jwiz168 on September 27, 2014, 11:27:19 pmI maybe late on this one but tonyk was the MAIN man why cob reconsidered his stand on allocations of shares in Bitshares Music which was the 10% for each AGS/PTS holders. He has a firm grasp of what he is putting on the table.I wish but I highly doubt that - Dan, Stan, Nikolai (Sorry if I missing someone) are the one that did the true work.Yes, but you did voice the general concern regarding distribution more *convincingly* then the average user. That at least had some influence on the discussion with the I3 team. Keep it up!strongly agree!
Quote from: tonyk on September 27, 2014, 11:29:27 pmQuote from: jwiz168 on September 27, 2014, 11:27:19 pmI maybe late on this one but tonyk was the MAIN man why cob reconsidered his stand on allocations of shares in Bitshares Music which was the 10% for each AGS/PTS holders. He has a firm grasp of what he is putting on the table.I wish but I highly doubt that - Dan, Stan, Nikolai (Sorry if I missing someone) are the one that did the true work.Yes, but you did voice the general concern regarding distribution more *convincingly* then the average user. That at least had some influence on the discussion with the I3 team. Keep it up!
Quote from: jwiz168 on September 27, 2014, 11:27:19 pmI maybe late on this one but tonyk was the MAIN man why cob reconsidered his stand on allocations of shares in Bitshares Music which was the 10% for each AGS/PTS holders. He has a firm grasp of what he is putting on the table.I wish but I highly doubt that - Dan, Stan, Nikolai (Sorry if I missing someone) are the one that did the true work.
I maybe late on this one but tonyk was the MAIN man why cob reconsidered his stand on allocations of shares in Bitshares Music which was the 10% for each AGS/PTS holders. He has a firm grasp of what he is putting on the table.
Quote from: tonyk on October 03, 2014, 06:07:02 amQuote from: bitsharesrussia on October 03, 2014, 05:42:27 amQuote from: tonyk on October 03, 2014, 05:34:23 amQuote from: theFuzz on October 03, 2014, 05:26:12 amNext aim - a 7 figure income.... in what currency? In NOTEShttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gH-qFeRa7EHaha Tonyk i didnt know you were a dance fan! So the dream is Cuba and the free live?
Quote from: bitsharesrussia on October 03, 2014, 05:42:27 amQuote from: tonyk on October 03, 2014, 05:34:23 amQuote from: theFuzz on October 03, 2014, 05:26:12 amNext aim - a 7 figure income.... in what currency? In NOTEShttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gH-qFeRa7EHaha Tonyk i didnt know you were a dance fan! So the dream is Cuba and the free live?
Quote from: tonyk on October 03, 2014, 05:34:23 amQuote from: theFuzz on October 03, 2014, 05:26:12 amNext aim - a 7 figure income.... in what currency? In NOTEShttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gH-qFeRa7E
Quote from: theFuzz on October 03, 2014, 05:26:12 amNext aim - a 7 figure income.... in what currency?
Next aim - a 7 figure income....
Tonyk, you now have a 6 page thread about only you. How does that feel?
ROFL I was talking about moderation in alcohol intake.
Quote from: gamey on September 27, 2014, 06:15:57 pmI'm meeting up with Tonky in Vegas at touchdown ! Will having to be doing some moderating there with all the serious people about.You can close tonyk's mouth...maybeYou can not stay on the way of... dat peg doe ... the bitUSD one that it is.
I'm meeting up with Tonky in Vegas at touchdown ! Will having to be doing some moderating there with all the serious people about.
Quote from: fussyhands on September 27, 2014, 05:15:39 pmQuote from: xeroc on September 27, 2014, 05:08:07 pmhttps://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9333.msg121407#msg121407He asked a question that could show you that gold is only volatile in terms of $ value .. not in terms of bitGLD value .. he wanted to point you towards the right direction such that you can figure it out your self .. don't take anything tony says personally .. (I made that error too)Then I pointed out that gold is highly volatile in BUYING POWER, not just in terms of $ value. That is a fact. Go look it up if you don't know that already. His response to that was to imply that I was an idiot, say he was "done with" me, and leave the conversation:https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9333.msg121447#msg121447Someone who engages in ad hominem attacks and ends conversations whenever the FACTS don't agree with his ideology is an idiot.Fussyhands,The statement: "the buying power of gold is highly volatile" is a subjective statement rather than a "FACT". When you use words like "highly" "extremely" you are making a subjective judgment and these statements must be considered in context. In the context of the discussion taking place about altcoin cryptocurrencies I think it is fair to say that the buying power you can expect from gold is significantly less volatile and more predictable than the buying power you can expect from most altcoins. Rather than present the statement as incontrovertible fact, perhaps if you explained more specifically what "highly volatile" means to you there would be opportunity for agreement.
Quote from: xeroc on September 27, 2014, 05:08:07 pmhttps://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9333.msg121407#msg121407He asked a question that could show you that gold is only volatile in terms of $ value .. not in terms of bitGLD value .. he wanted to point you towards the right direction such that you can figure it out your self .. don't take anything tony says personally .. (I made that error too)Then I pointed out that gold is highly volatile in BUYING POWER, not just in terms of $ value. That is a fact. Go look it up if you don't know that already. His response to that was to imply that I was an idiot, say he was "done with" me, and leave the conversation:https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9333.msg121447#msg121447Someone who engages in ad hominem attacks and ends conversations whenever the FACTS don't agree with his ideology is an idiot.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9333.msg121407#msg121407He asked a question that could show you that gold is only volatile in terms of $ value .. not in terms of bitGLD value .. he wanted to point you towards the right direction such that you can figure it out your self .. don't take anything tony says personally .. (I made that error too)
haha don't worry I'm in the same boat.
fussyhands, can you please send a link that backs up the facts you are supporting? I tried googling your suggested search term, and all I can find are things that say gold actually has stable buying power. I'm open to the possibility that they are all misguided, however your suggestion for research is not proving effective.
I know I must be an idiot since after all this time I am still struggling to understand things ...
Quote from: fussyhands on September 27, 2014, 04:44:11 pmPersonally I've had a negative interaction with TonyK who seems to be a close minded ideologue. When I pointed out that the buying power of gold is HIGHLY volatile (it is, go look it up if you don't think so) he started implying I was an idiot and then stopped talking to me. Does not seem smart or interested in learning.Now, that is outright lie! Everybody can read the thread for him/herselfI said {after trying to teach first btw] that BTSX can implement a basket of commodities and till then we have bitGold... the name-calling was started and kept one-sided by fussy...I will not suggest visiting an eye doctor in his case... much more serious treatment is needed, in my view.
Personally I've had a negative interaction with TonyK who seems to be a close minded ideologue. When I pointed out that the buying power of gold is HIGHLY volatile (it is, go look it up if you don't think so) he started implying I was an idiot and then stopped talking to me. Does not seem smart or interested in learning.
Let me quote you from the other thread:QuotePrice of gold is also highly volatile, and thus not suitable for currency,cannot see there that you are talking about "BUYING power" .. sorry .. could also be volatility in terms of $, €, CNY, or bananas"I am done with you" may come from a mistranslation from .. i read almost 300 posts today, am tiered and will go to bed .. done for today .. have you thought about that?there are non-english-native people around ..
Price of gold is also highly volatile, and thus not suitable for currency,
Quote from: merockstar on September 27, 2014, 09:49:03 am..teach first, then insult might work. ..How about 'teach first, never insult'? Nobody really deserves an 'insult' treatment - unless we are talking about trolls and FUDs.
..teach first, then insult might work. ..
Quote from: kisa0145 on September 27, 2014, 07:26:13 amQuote from: tonyk on September 27, 2014, 07:12:15 amQuote from: kisa0145 on September 27, 2014, 07:03:53 amQuote from: tonyk on September 27, 2014, 06:39:38 am. I will try to be more teaching then insultingTonyk, would you also consider first insulting, just to get over it, and thEn more teaching? I really did not get that.Come on, I was so hoping to make you laugh at yourself for mixing up thEn and thAn at thEt particular point...Actually - I am learning to appreciate your unique sense of humor and intelligent comments throughout the whole forum more and more by now, please keep going, very delightful!Come on man than=then in my book, even the 'quality spelling' guys here have there thoughts spelled that way.[edit] reading what you meant is indeed funny... LOLteaching then insulting... (aka teaching followed by insulting, presumably the same person)PS and you did make me laugh when I finally got it. Fixed btw in the original.
Quote from: tonyk on September 27, 2014, 07:12:15 amQuote from: kisa0145 on September 27, 2014, 07:03:53 amQuote from: tonyk on September 27, 2014, 06:39:38 am. I will try to be more teaching then insultingTonyk, would you also consider first insulting, just to get over it, and thEn more teaching? I really did not get that.Come on, I was so hoping to make you laugh at yourself for mixing up thEn and thAn at thEt particular point...Actually - I am learning to appreciate your unique sense of humor and intelligent comments throughout the whole forum more and more by now, please keep going, very delightful!
Quote from: kisa0145 on September 27, 2014, 07:03:53 amQuote from: tonyk on September 27, 2014, 06:39:38 am. I will try to be more teaching then insultingTonyk, would you also consider first insulting, just to get over it, and thEn more teaching? I really did not get that.
Quote from: tonyk on September 27, 2014, 06:39:38 am. I will try to be more teaching then insultingTonyk, would you also consider first insulting, just to get over it, and thEn more teaching?
. I will try to be more teaching then insulting
... my style does not include too much hugging,
Quote from: tonyk on September 27, 2014, 04:10:56 amI am truly disappointed that you dani needed that post to improve your opinion of me.Fuck! i messed up again! Sorry man but I didn't mean my opinion was negative before that !!! I suppose I should use the word.... "confirm"(?)...I felt almost like this bear...Strange but I wanted to hug you
I am truly disappointed that you dani needed that post to improve your opinion of me.
Regarding that company I wanted to start, first I renamed it, then more recently I gave up on it. So none of that I posted about matters anymore. I'll be staying a sole proprietorship until a better way to pivot comes up.I guess I'm going to have to get used to you ridiculing my efforts.
I personally respected tonyk more and could better profile him after this post Quote from: tonyk on September 23, 2014, 11:09:19 pmQuote from: donkeypong on September 23, 2014, 11:02:27 pmQuote from: shadowbroker2 on September 23, 2014, 10:40:04 pmAnyone want to try with a real response? This type of response is incredibly unattractive to new people like myself. BTSX is highly unprofessional if this is an example of how their community thinks.Shadow, don't take it personally. And by the way, welcome. This forum provides an open exchange of ideas and there are all kinds of people on here. Even decent folks have good days and bad days. Tonyk is a good sort once you get to know him; we just throw him some raw meat every once in awhile and he stays in line for a few days.LOL, truly a good one!Laughing at oneself is indeed one of the best thing one can experience. And this post made me do that! On the subject of 'raw' I do hope Bitshares Music comes with some more 'baked' and thought out ideas, so they do not make another chapter of my future book...
Quote from: donkeypong on September 23, 2014, 11:02:27 pmQuote from: shadowbroker2 on September 23, 2014, 10:40:04 pmAnyone want to try with a real response? This type of response is incredibly unattractive to new people like myself. BTSX is highly unprofessional if this is an example of how their community thinks.Shadow, don't take it personally. And by the way, welcome. This forum provides an open exchange of ideas and there are all kinds of people on here. Even decent folks have good days and bad days. Tonyk is a good sort once you get to know him; we just throw him some raw meat every once in awhile and he stays in line for a few days.LOL, truly a good one!Laughing at oneself is indeed one of the best thing one can experience. And this post made me do that! On the subject of 'raw' I do hope Bitshares Music comes with some more 'baked' and thought out ideas, so they do not make another chapter of my future book...
Quote from: shadowbroker2 on September 23, 2014, 10:40:04 pmAnyone want to try with a real response? This type of response is incredibly unattractive to new people like myself. BTSX is highly unprofessional if this is an example of how their community thinks.Shadow, don't take it personally. And by the way, welcome. This forum provides an open exchange of ideas and there are all kinds of people on here. Even decent folks have good days and bad days. Tonyk is a good sort once you get to know him; we just throw him some raw meat every once in awhile and he stays in line for a few days.
Anyone want to try with a real response? This type of response is incredibly unattractive to new people like myself. BTSX is highly unprofessional if this is an example of how their community thinks.
Hi,I've been talking in another thread about how to set up a delegate node amongst other things, on a VPS running linux. During that conversation it came up that it might be possible to run a delegate node in Windows. The thread is located here for those interested in having a look:This is a good thing for me, since I already paid a fee to create my primary BitSharesX account as a delegate account If I were to have to create a new account to be a delegate & run on the linux box, I will have wasted my money on that delegate fee for my primary account.
Hi,I'm starting a new company, and have created & registered an account in the BitSharesX client for it.I'd like to issue an asset distribution in the form of tokens to be redeemed for services the company provides.I see on another thread where the lending DAC is detailing how they'd distribute their currency, & I'm using that as a starting point when I'm determining how to distribute mine. Theirs is:25% PTS25% AGS40% Open Market10% DevelopmentI don't understand PTS & AGS enough to know what it would mean exactly that I'm dedicating 25% of my issuance to these DACs. Does that mean that I'd distribute 25% of my 'NFS' tokens to these shareholders in a bulk distribution upon launch of my token?My understanding of the 'Development' percentage is that I'd pay developers working on my company's coding todo list in NFS out of the allocated 10% of the NFS issuance. Is that correct?I understand that the 40% 'Open Market' allocation means that only 40% of my NFS would be available to buy on the open market.On the subject of the open market, how would people buy & redeem NFS? Would there be a section created in the 'Markets' part of the BitSharesX client where people could do this? I'm planning on integrating a Magento ecommerce backend on my website, & would like to sell NFS via that using the GoCoin plugin & accept BTC & LTC that way. I imagine customers would have to run a BitSharesX client with which to receive & manage their purchased NFS. ie. holding Magento/GoCoin purchases, & redeeming NFS to my company's wallet in exchange for services. Is this understanding correct?Please advise.Thanks,-F
Quote from: FuLl on September 26, 2014, 11:40:56 pmQuote from: trader on September 26, 2014, 06:28:18 pmI havent been keeping up. What exactly has he said that warrants an entire attack thread dedicated to him ?... I'm new here, & this is among my first impressions of the BitShares community:Quote from: tonyk on September 14, 2014, 02:14:20 amQuote from: FuLl on September 14, 2014, 01:57:28 amQuote from: tonyk on September 14, 2014, 01:53:38 am Why did you change you handle?...What are you referring to? I registered as FuLl originally. Am I misunderstanding what you mean?Sorry, Chicken-brain-nes must be more widely spread, than my models suggested... ...I will update the models , if those findings are confirmed... ...In the meanwhile, are you positive you do not have wings and a real good eye site?Apparently he decided I was someone he doesn't care for, without doing any due diligence to determine if I deserve this kind of treatment (as if _anyone_ does).Seriously people, if I didn't believe in the project, I would've turned around & walked away never to return right then.It's too bad you posted his comments...because I have to admit that their pretty damn funny (ROFL)...but sorry if you were offended.
Quote from: trader on September 26, 2014, 06:28:18 pmI havent been keeping up. What exactly has he said that warrants an entire attack thread dedicated to him ?... I'm new here, & this is among my first impressions of the BitShares community:Quote from: tonyk on September 14, 2014, 02:14:20 amQuote from: FuLl on September 14, 2014, 01:57:28 amQuote from: tonyk on September 14, 2014, 01:53:38 am Why did you change you handle?...What are you referring to? I registered as FuLl originally. Am I misunderstanding what you mean?Sorry, Chicken-brain-nes must be more widely spread, than my models suggested... ...I will update the models , if those findings are confirmed... ...In the meanwhile, are you positive you do not have wings and a real good eye site?Apparently he decided I was someone he doesn't care for, without doing any due diligence to determine if I deserve this kind of treatment (as if _anyone_ does).Seriously people, if I didn't believe in the project, I would've turned around & walked away never to return right then.
I havent been keeping up. What exactly has he said that warrants an entire attack thread dedicated to him ?
Quote from: FuLl on September 14, 2014, 01:57:28 amQuote from: tonyk on September 14, 2014, 01:53:38 am Why did you change you handle?...What are you referring to? I registered as FuLl originally. Am I misunderstanding what you mean?Sorry, Chicken-brain-nes must be more widely spread, than my models suggested... ...I will update the models , if those findings are confirmed... ...In the meanwhile, are you positive you do not have wings and a real good eye site?
Quote from: tonyk on September 14, 2014, 01:53:38 am Why did you change you handle?...What are you referring to? I registered as FuLl originally. Am I misunderstanding what you mean?
Why did you change you handle?...
Interesting thread. I should research this dude further...But even before that I agree with all posts in the thread.
When is Vegas?
Quote from: Agent86 on September 26, 2014, 06:59:27 pmQuote from: Empirical1.1 on September 26, 2014, 06:13:12 pmThere are probably less than 100 forum members not on the main team that understand BitShares & BTSX well and take the time to engage on the forum and explain it to others. There are much less than that (20?) who also have a decent background in markets and trading. Those people are forum gems for BTSX in particular imo.Unfortunately I'm not part of the second group but Tonyk is & he's one of the very few people that takes the time to help others. I often see him sending people BTSX to register & helping in the stupid question thread https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8390.0 Including assisting me & I wanted to tip him but he asked me to send it to Xeroc for the community development program. Even taking into account that he sometimes comes across as abrasive/sarcastic/arrogant, I would easily put him in the top 10 most valuable BitShares forum members myself. It would be a great loss if this thread discouraged one of the few BitAsset knowledgeable, active and helpful people on the forum. Tony passed up a tip to ask that I get a tip. I think tony knows a lot and is funny. I like his sarcasm even when it is directed at me.(example https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9115.msg118283#msg118283)It's no fun if people can't get into it every now and again. There will be some new users that like a forum where people don't hold back.are you coming to Vegas, A86. Would love to meet you in person.
Quote from: Empirical1.1 on September 26, 2014, 06:13:12 pmThere are probably less than 100 forum members not on the main team that understand BitShares & BTSX well and take the time to engage on the forum and explain it to others. There are much less than that (20?) who also have a decent background in markets and trading. Those people are forum gems for BTSX in particular imo.Unfortunately I'm not part of the second group but Tonyk is & he's one of the very few people that takes the time to help others. I often see him sending people BTSX to register & helping in the stupid question thread https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8390.0 Including assisting me & I wanted to tip him but he asked me to send it to Xeroc for the community development program. Even taking into account that he sometimes comes across as abrasive/sarcastic/arrogant, I would easily put him in the top 10 most valuable BitShares forum members myself. It would be a great loss if this thread discouraged one of the few BitAsset knowledgeable, active and helpful people on the forum. Tony passed up a tip to ask that I get a tip. I think tony knows a lot and is funny. I like his sarcasm even when it is directed at me.(example https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9115.msg118283#msg118283)It's no fun if people can't get into it every now and again. There will be some new users that like a forum where people don't hold back.
There are probably less than 100 forum members not on the main team that understand BitShares & BTSX well and take the time to engage on the forum and explain it to others. There are much less than that (20?) who also have a decent background in markets and trading. Those people are forum gems for BTSX in particular imo.Unfortunately I'm not part of the second group but Tonyk is & he's one of the very few people that takes the time to help others. I often see him sending people BTSX to register & helping in the stupid question thread https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8390.0 Including assisting me & I wanted to tip him but he asked me to send it to Xeroc for the community development program. Even taking into account that he sometimes comes across as abrasive/sarcastic/arrogant, I would easily put him in the top 10 most valuable BitShares forum members myself. It would be a great loss if this thread discouraged one of the few BitAsset knowledgeable, active and helpful people on the forum.
Quote from: sumantso on September 26, 2014, 03:16:43 pmI find his posts refreshing. Maybe he is a bit too aggressive, but this forum is full of people trying to be extra polite and/or are cowards so that balances it out.bitmarket has a point, but I love tonyk's presence in the threads where outside crypto communities come to fight
I find his posts refreshing. Maybe he is a bit too aggressive, but this forum is full of people trying to be extra polite and/or are cowards so that balances it out.
this summer