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...the day when BitShares get's all the bored customers of Poloniex ;-)
this summer
This is interesting, let's see what Samupaha had to say in March 2015:Quote from: Samupaha on March 08, 2015, 05:45:08 amso only way to go forward is through trial and error. It is always easy to say afterwards that "we should have done things differently" but at the time of making those decisions, it's impossible to know what is the optimal way.I'm actually quite impressed how well the developers have handled difficult decisions. Of course it will always give some distress to investors when plans are changed on the fly, but in the long run it is propably the only way to make sure that the end product will be great.Let's see what Samupaha says June 2017:Quote from: Samupaha on June 08, 2017, 07:03:41 amDo those people deserve to lose their money who will buy into a scam because of you? Are you willing to admit that you were wrong and pay them back from your own pocket?I really can't understand your thinking. You seem to be a nice guy but your business actions are confusing. I remember that you have claimed to be a devout christian. Is this just a conspiracy to make people poor so they can get to heaven?I suggest Samupaha has turned into a troll and a bully and should have his account suspended. He's obviously trying to blame people for his own personal investment decisions and calling Stan's religious beliefs into question is crossing the line. This should not be tolerated.Footnote: Any investor that uses his private cryptokeys to transfer funds, the onus is on him, before he does that... Buyer beware, and do you own due diligence. No one is responsible for the decisions you make but yourself when you invest in something. That's common sense.
so only way to go forward is through trial and error. It is always easy to say afterwards that "we should have done things differently" but at the time of making those decisions, it's impossible to know what is the optimal way.I'm actually quite impressed how well the developers have handled difficult decisions. Of course it will always give some distress to investors when plans are changed on the fly, but in the long run it is propably the only way to make sure that the end product will be great.
Do those people deserve to lose their money who will buy into a scam because of you? Are you willing to admit that you were wrong and pay them back from your own pocket?I really can't understand your thinking. You seem to be a nice guy but your business actions are confusing. I remember that you have claimed to be a devout christian. Is this just a conspiracy to make people poor so they can get to heaven?
I suggest Samupaha has turned into a troll and a bully and should have his account suspended. He's obviously trying to blame people for his own personal investment decisions and calling Stan's religious beliefs into question is crossing the line. This should not be tolerated.
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no need to request bans here - we do not ban based on different opinions.
He is not calling Stan's religious beliefs into question but making light hearted joke. No censorship please we are not government
This is interesting, let's see what Samupaha had to say in March 2015:Quote from: Samupaha on March 08, 2015, 05:45:08 amso only way to go forward is through trial and error. It is always easy to say afterwards that "we should have done things differently" but at the time of making those decisions, it's impossible to know what is the optimal way.I'm actually quite impressed how well the developers have handled difficult decisions. Of course it will always give some distress to investors when plans are changed on the fly, but in the long run it is propably the only way to make sure that the end product will be great. Let's see what Samupaha says June 2017:Quote from: Samupaha on June 08, 2017, 07:03:41 amDo those people deserve to lose their money who will buy into a scam because of you? Are you willing to admit that you were wrong and pay them back from your own pocket?I really can't understand your thinking. You seem to be a nice guy but your business actions are confusing. I remember that you have claimed to be a devout christian. Is this just a conspiracy to make people poor so they can get to heaven?I suggest Samupaha has turned into a troll and a bully and should have his account suspended. He's obviously trying to blame people for his own personal investment decisions and calling Stan's religious beliefs into question is crossing the line. This should not be tolerated.
HERO in now the 4th largest smartcoin issued on the Bitshares network with 1053% increase this week; going from a market cap of $10,541 USD to $122,849 USD
a talent-rich company that just trained 150 of the most successful internet marketers in the world on all the latest techniques in gameification and augmented reality and real time blockchain integration
earning several million dollars in one weekend.
a company that has all those marketers' and partners' passionate support despite his hour-long confession of his past mistakes at the start of his epic Hollywood Event.
a company capable of single handedly defeating some of the greatest celebrity teams in the world
and winning the Billion Dollar Prize in our upcoming Billion Hero Challenge - all on its own with its new technologies
a company that will have billions to support funding a Steemit competitor and making it more popular than Steemit in every way, attracting current Steem users away from the current toxic evil-whale environment with a multi-million dollar share drop on everyone who is not an evil whale, and leveraging all the traffic from people competing for our billion dollar prize
a company that is perfectly capable of leveraging all that Billion Hero Challenge traffic to make Steemit vanish from Google SEO rankings completely
But those living in glass houses who throw stones at other people's projects without taking time to understand them deserve whatever they get.
Quote from: Stan on June 05, 2017, 05:18:43 amI believe in his team having worked with them for the past month.Take the blue pill and believe whatever you want.I wasn't trying to discredit anyone, I do realize that not everyone and everything works entirely in the public eye. However you also can't fault us for being a little cautious, bitshares has had it's share of broken promises and scammers. So much so in fact that I think I'm not alone in being completely unfamiliar with the recent uptick and having trouble adjusting.Anyway, if the company is seeking public attention, then it might pay to do a little work on it's public image, like the website and such, or publishing some podcasts/vlogs. At the moment the only thing we can do is take your word on it Stan, but to use your reference, that's like seeing someone else taking the pill, not quite the same experience as being able to take the pill yourself.
I believe in his team having worked with them for the past month.Take the blue pill and believe whatever you want.
Quote from: Samupaha on June 07, 2017, 07:11:55 amStan, I don't think you understand how serious the situation is.Even if the Mogul game wasn't a scam, it should have been kicked out from Steem. Why? Because it would have attracted other real scammers to the platform.Like many others besides me have noticed, the language Trainer used and the marketing style that he had chosen was pretty much straight from some kind of get-rich-quick scheme guidebook. If he has a real business, he doesn't need to use scamming marketing style. Just watch him after this... If he learned from this incident, he understands that his marketing style must change if he wants to make some real business. If he continues with the same style, he is either a scammer or unable to learn from mistakes.But let's just assume that no backlash happened in the case of Mogul. What if Trainer had been able to launch the game as he wanted?Two possible outcomes:1) The game was a scam and you, Stan, would have lost even more of your reputation because you fully endorsed it. What would you say to the people who lost thousands of dollars for nothing? Would you pay them back with your own money (because scammers don't give back any refunds)?2) The game wasn't a scam but it would have attracted several real scams to Steem. You, Stan, would be still indirectly responsible for the losses of people who would invest to those scams. Would you pay them back with your own money?Samupaha,I don't think you have analyzed how serious your own situation now is.You have deeply offended the leader ofa talent-rich company that just trained 150 of the most successful internet marketers in the world on all the latest techniques in gameification and augmented reality and real time blockchain integration- earning several million dollars in one weekend.a company that has all those marketers' and partners' passionate support despite his hour-long confession of his past mistakes at the start of his epic Hollywood Event.a company that has reverse-engineered the Google search engine scoring mechanism and is able to make the first ten pages of Google rank their stuff over all other stuff any time they wanta company capable of single handedly defeating some of the greatest celebrity teams in the world and winning the Billion Dollar Prize in our upcoming Billion Hero Challenge - all on its own with its new technologiesa company that will have billions to support funding a Steemit competitor and making it more popular than Steemit in every way, attracting current Steem users away from the current toxic evil-whale environment with a multi-million dollar share drop on everyone who is not an evil whale, and leveraging all the traffic from people competing for our billion dollar prizea company that is perfectly capable of leveraging all that Billion Hero Challenge traffic to make Steemit vanish from Google SEO rankings completelyNot saying he will do any of this... the damage he inflicts could be incidental and limited completely to this quadrant of the galaxy.But those living in glass houses who throw stones at other people's projects without taking time to understand them deserve whatever they get.
Stan, I don't think you understand how serious the situation is.Even if the Mogul game wasn't a scam, it should have been kicked out from Steem. Why? Because it would have attracted other real scammers to the platform.Like many others besides me have noticed, the language Trainer used and the marketing style that he had chosen was pretty much straight from some kind of get-rich-quick scheme guidebook. If he has a real business, he doesn't need to use scamming marketing style. Just watch him after this... If he learned from this incident, he understands that his marketing style must change if he wants to make some real business. If he continues with the same style, he is either a scammer or unable to learn from mistakes.But let's just assume that no backlash happened in the case of Mogul. What if Trainer had been able to launch the game as he wanted?Two possible outcomes:1) The game was a scam and you, Stan, would have lost even more of your reputation because you fully endorsed it. What would you say to the people who lost thousands of dollars for nothing? Would you pay them back with your own money (because scammers don't give back any refunds)?2) The game wasn't a scam but it would have attracted several real scams to Steem. You, Stan, would be still indirectly responsible for the losses of people who would invest to those scams. Would you pay them back with your own money?
Quote from: Stan on June 05, 2017, 11:35:10 amOh, he'll still do it. Steemit just won't be the one to benefit from it.So you still haven't learned anything from this? Whenever you are involved in "something big" it always fails. By now you should be able to see some patterns. Like, for example, every time you cooperate with Michael Taggart, nothing works out.Quote from: Stan on June 05, 2017, 07:48:35 pmWell, no one ever let us fully develop the concept.You had all the chances to fully develop the business. When you fail, take some responsibility, don't blame others.Instead of being in the bubble with get-rich-quick scammers, you should have done your own research. It wouldn't have been hard to ask around about the idea and plans. Ask feedback – what could go wrong? It would have been very quickly pointed out that making this kind of business with a man with very low reputation will be pretty much impossible to market efficiently. If you ruin the brand in the beginning, it will require a lot of unnecessary work to build it later.This is not rocket science, this is just very simple basics of business.
Oh, he'll still do it. Steemit just won't be the one to benefit from it.
Well, no one ever let us fully develop the concept.
I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in...
Quote from: Stan on June 05, 2017, 09:43:36 pmQuote from: Brekyrself on June 05, 2017, 09:35:48 pmQuote from: Stan on June 05, 2017, 07:48:35 pmQuote from: Brekyrself on June 05, 2017, 07:18:48 pmSuccessful people do not respond to criticism the way this guy does as they live to be competitive and prove their worth...I have only seen two of his pitches, the mission 2 from a month back and this one yesterday, however they just scream too good to be true. If he really wants to grab the attention of blockchain users there has to be more hard hitting details of such plan before asking for 50k cash... Both video's still leave me in the air on exactly what his game plan is.@Stan Since you have been working with them, can you help us connect the dots?Well, no one ever let us fully develop the concept.Perhaps I'll blog about it when I get a few spare hours.Using bitshares to hold someone's payment for gold in the ground as escrow to borrow heros against to pay for mining it is the basic idea.It's a way to solve the counterparty problem for all sorts of asset backed coins.There are tons of illiquid assets out there, and using hero technology to secure them is a promising use case.Successful people quickly recognize when they encounter intractable obstacles and cut their losses.It's not thinned skin rage, its simple pragmatic realism.Thanks for the follow up Stan, we do appreciate everything your doing. I honestly believe the way Matt presented and pulled out of the Steemit post so quickly left a sour taste for many. It was near impossible to connect the dots on where the project was headed before he started asking for 50k investments.No doubt there are cultural mismatches. No excuse for always assuming the worst about people. "They'll be time enough for judging, when the dealin's done" - Kenny RodgersKenny Rogers never sang that lyric, unless you intentionally meant to spell his name wrong
Quote from: Brekyrself on June 05, 2017, 09:35:48 pmQuote from: Stan on June 05, 2017, 07:48:35 pmQuote from: Brekyrself on June 05, 2017, 07:18:48 pmSuccessful people do not respond to criticism the way this guy does as they live to be competitive and prove their worth...I have only seen two of his pitches, the mission 2 from a month back and this one yesterday, however they just scream too good to be true. If he really wants to grab the attention of blockchain users there has to be more hard hitting details of such plan before asking for 50k cash... Both video's still leave me in the air on exactly what his game plan is.@Stan Since you have been working with them, can you help us connect the dots?Well, no one ever let us fully develop the concept.Perhaps I'll blog about it when I get a few spare hours.Using bitshares to hold someone's payment for gold in the ground as escrow to borrow heros against to pay for mining it is the basic idea.It's a way to solve the counterparty problem for all sorts of asset backed coins.There are tons of illiquid assets out there, and using hero technology to secure them is a promising use case.Successful people quickly recognize when they encounter intractable obstacles and cut their losses.It's not thinned skin rage, its simple pragmatic realism.Thanks for the follow up Stan, we do appreciate everything your doing. I honestly believe the way Matt presented and pulled out of the Steemit post so quickly left a sour taste for many. It was near impossible to connect the dots on where the project was headed before he started asking for 50k investments.No doubt there are cultural mismatches. No excuse for always assuming the worst about people. "They'll be time enough for judging, when the dealin's done" - Kenny Rodgers
Quote from: Stan on June 05, 2017, 07:48:35 pmQuote from: Brekyrself on June 05, 2017, 07:18:48 pmSuccessful people do not respond to criticism the way this guy does as they live to be competitive and prove their worth...I have only seen two of his pitches, the mission 2 from a month back and this one yesterday, however they just scream too good to be true. If he really wants to grab the attention of blockchain users there has to be more hard hitting details of such plan before asking for 50k cash... Both video's still leave me in the air on exactly what his game plan is.@Stan Since you have been working with them, can you help us connect the dots?Well, no one ever let us fully develop the concept.Perhaps I'll blog about it when I get a few spare hours.Using bitshares to hold someone's payment for gold in the ground as escrow to borrow heros against to pay for mining it is the basic idea.It's a way to solve the counterparty problem for all sorts of asset backed coins.There are tons of illiquid assets out there, and using hero technology to secure them is a promising use case.Successful people quickly recognize when they encounter intractable obstacles and cut their losses.It's not thinned skin rage, its simple pragmatic realism.Thanks for the follow up Stan, we do appreciate everything your doing. I honestly believe the way Matt presented and pulled out of the Steemit post so quickly left a sour taste for many. It was near impossible to connect the dots on where the project was headed before he started asking for 50k investments.
Quote from: Brekyrself on June 05, 2017, 07:18:48 pmSuccessful people do not respond to criticism the way this guy does as they live to be competitive and prove their worth...I have only seen two of his pitches, the mission 2 from a month back and this one yesterday, however they just scream too good to be true. If he really wants to grab the attention of blockchain users there has to be more hard hitting details of such plan before asking for 50k cash... Both video's still leave me in the air on exactly what his game plan is.@Stan Since you have been working with them, can you help us connect the dots?Well, no one ever let us fully develop the concept.Perhaps I'll blog about it when I get a few spare hours.Using bitshares to hold someone's payment for gold in the ground as escrow to borrow heros against to pay for mining it is the basic idea.It's a way to solve the counterparty problem for all sorts of asset backed coins.There are tons of illiquid assets out there, and using hero technology to secure them is a promising use case.Successful people quickly recognize when they encounter intractable obstacles and cut their losses.It's not thinned skin rage, its simple pragmatic realism.
Successful people do not respond to criticism the way this guy does as they live to be competitive and prove their worth...I have only seen two of his pitches, the mission 2 from a month back and this one yesterday, however they just scream too good to be true. If he really wants to grab the attention of blockchain users there has to be more hard hitting details of such plan before asking for 50k cash... Both video's still leave me in the air on exactly what his game plan is.@Stan Since you have been working with them, can you help us connect the dots?
Regardless of his intent....the post, the language used, the promises made, the lack of evidence to give credibility, the descriptions of the webinar content, his reactions to critisism....I mean honestly, what did he or anyone else expect? That is "help" that Bitshares and Steemit neither wants nor needs. If his intentions were honourable, I wish him luck.....elsewhere. Or he can listen to the critisism and adapt his approach to one that may have more success. The impression I got was absolutely terrible. There is no need whatsoever for anyone in Bitshares or Steemit to pay that much for anything. The funds are all available from within the networks where stake, reputation, history and a clear and transparent offer / business plan can be specified clearly and evaluated openly. If people want money from Bitshares or Steemit, they need to realise that the wishy woshy language of the past or the nebulous business plans promising the earth are going to get short thrift.I have always looked up to Stan. His vouching for this proposition based on his recent positive experiences changes nothing. His boundless positivity and guidance have been steadfast and the fact that he sees the best in almost anyone and anything is a superhuman strength. We are all susceptible to our hearts. That's why communities have strength. On a bad day, there is always someone who has your back.
Quote from: Stan on June 05, 2017, 11:35:10 amOh, he'll still do it. Steemit just won't be the one to benefit from it.You know that doesn't make any sense, right? Please tell me that you're only pretending to think that this guy is on the level. If he had something truly valuable to offer, why does his business model depend on up-front payments instead of profit-sharing?
Oh, Stan, when you will learn that get-rich-quick online marketers are the lowest scum of internet business? You can't ever win if you work with them.BTS and Steemit to the moon? Yeah, right. This guy didn't last even 24h. He edited the original post, all there is left is this: "Bye steemit. You're not ready for this."
almost predicted this outcome. this is what happens when you throw a common high ticket marketer to the crypto crowd - they ate him alive.use him where he is valuable, outside of crypto, and find some crypto marketers would be my approach
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Again some serial scammer? Come on man, this is not helping at all.